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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2015 - 11:43 PM ET #1

    Have had 3 months or more of losses, deposit - lose, played over and over. I have lost in some of the most despicable ways leaving me wondering if this is the end of a 17 year run at sports betting where I have lost much more than I ever won. I made 3 deposits this last week alone crawled back to my book for a rebate bonus and blew thru that. After plodding along I went all in on Cavs OVER 208.5 and think I get a gift when it goes OT but not today not any day, when I needed one big hit more than any - final is 208 after what could not happen did happen. Sick feeling I can't shake, it is the dark side of sports betting, for all the winners today and every day - there is one like me. i wish I could get out of this racket but when you owe people a few bucks this shit has you by the balls. Gambling is the devil.
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    Have had 3 months or more of losses, deposit - lose, played over and over. I have lost in some of the most despicable ways leaving me wondering if this is the end of a 17 year run at sports betting where I have lost much more than I ever won. I made 3 deposits this last week alone crawled back to my book for a rebate bonus and blew thru that. After plodding along I went all in on Cavs OVER 208.5 and think I get a gift when it goes OT but not today not any day, when I needed one big hit more than any - final is 208 after what could not happen did happen. Sick feeling I can't shake, it is the dark side of sports betting, for all the winners today and every day - there is one like me. i wish I could get out of this racket but when you owe people a few bucks this shit has you by the balls. Gambling is the devil.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 12:02 AM ET #2

    Play small bro.  Set a budget and abide by it.  Bol to you.  
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    Play small bro.  Set a budget and abide by it.  Bol to you.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 12:31 AM ET #3

    Sorry to hear. Only been doing it 2 years. Think about quitting daily...
    You gotta find the courage to stop. 
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    Sorry to hear. Only been doing it 2 years. Think about quitting daily...
    You gotta find the courage to stop. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 12:47 AM ET #4

    Not at all easy to qui and theirs almost a 99 percent chance you won't. Mostly everyone on this forum gambles for reasons other than to win money. Yeah thats the immediate goal but it goes beyond winning money. Thats for any degenerate that gambles on sports daily
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    Not at all easy to qui and theirs almost a 99 percent chance you won't. Mostly everyone on this forum gambles for reasons other than to win money. Yeah thats the immediate goal but it goes beyond winning money. Thats for any degenerate that gambles on sports daily
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 12:58 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeshow2424:

    Not at all easy to qui and theirs almost a 99 percent chance you won't. Mostly everyone on this forum gambles for reasons other than to win money. Yeah thats the immediate goal but it goes beyond winning money. Thats for any degenerate that gambles on sports daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeshow2424:

    Not at all easy to qui and theirs almost a 99 percent chance you won't. Mostly everyone on this forum gambles for reasons other than to win money. Yeah thats the immediate goal but it goes beyond winning money. Thats for any degenerate that gambles on sports daily

     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 1:50 AM ET #6

    Sorry to hear that. I know its after the fact but try betting on overs at half time when the first half goes under. Cavs/Rockets were a perfect example of that spot which you want to wait for. 
    1st half they got 97 and u/o was at 101 bringing the total for over to 198 instead 206 
    so besides getting 8 free points, other things to consider
    neither teams are playing back to back, so you know they'll run
    since its a close game, it might go to OT(which it did) or 10+ points might get scored in the last two minutes.  

    I think this strategy gives you the best odds as you will ever get in any sports betting. Hopefully this will help.
    BOL in your future bets. 

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    Sorry to hear that. I know its after the fact but try betting on overs at half time when the first half goes under. Cavs/Rockets were a perfect example of that spot which you want to wait for. 
    1st half they got 97 and u/o was at 101 bringing the total for over to 198 instead 206 
    so besides getting 8 free points, other things to consider
    neither teams are playing back to back, so you know they'll run
    since its a close game, it might go to OT(which it did) or 10+ points might get scored in the last two minutes.  

    I think this strategy gives you the best odds as you will ever get in any sports betting. Hopefully this will help.
    BOL in your future bets. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 2:04 AM ET #8

    yep i agree with lakeshow. most gamble here not to really to win money. of course winning is needed to be able to sustain betting but degenerates are still able to come up with money just to be able to bet

    so bet within limit and try to make your bankroll last.. i bet you need the action more than the money if you lasted for 17yrs of mostly losing as youve said..

    ive been doing this since 2004 and i know how you feel bro
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    yep i agree with lakeshow. most gamble here not to really to win money. of course winning is needed to be able to sustain betting but degenerates are still able to come up with money just to be able to bet

    so bet within limit and try to make your bankroll last.. i bet you need the action more than the money if you lasted for 17yrs of mostly losing as youve said..

    ive been doing this since 2004 and i know how you feel bro
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 2:06 AM ET #9

    some may disagree but i think its true. of course the goal is winning and some are able to do it. but its the rush that most people need and winning of course makes the rush or high far better than the rush you get from losing
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    some may disagree but i think its true. of course the goal is winning and some are able to do it. but its the rush that most people need and winning of course makes the rush or high far better than the rush you get from losing
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 2:14 AM ET #10

    If you need help there's also Gamblers Anonymous, for real. It's much darker than AA and NA. 

    https://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/hotlines 
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    If you need help there's also Gamblers Anonymous, for real. It's much darker than AA and NA. 

    https://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/hotlines 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 2:19 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by guada21:

    some may disagree but i think its true. of course the goal is winning and some are able to do it. but its the rush that most people need and winning of course makes the rush or high far better than the rush you get from losing

    Disagree. Losing is much better. The complexity of feelings and emotions after losing (the existential angst) make me feel far more alive than winning ever does. Besides, losing gives you the hope of quitting while winning only gives you the hope of winning more. Sorry, but losing is the winner in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guada21:

    some may disagree but i think its true. of course the goal is winning and some are able to do it. but its the rush that most people need and winning of course makes the rush or high far better than the rush you get from losing

    Disagree. Losing is much better. The complexity of feelings and emotions after losing (the existential angst) make me feel far more alive than winning ever does. Besides, losing gives you the hope of quitting while winning only gives you the hope of winning more. Sorry, but losing is the winner in my book.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    Disagree. Losing is much better. The complexity of feelings and emotions after losing (the existential angst) make me feel far more alive than winning ever does. Besides, losing gives you the hope of quitting while winning only gives you the hope of winning more. Sorry, but losing is the winner in my book.

    winning or losing makes me feel alive as long as im watching. i guess what we feel would obviously be different. and for me winning a game in which the soread or ML is decided up to the last shot makes me feel so alive but the jubilation from winning that scenario is far better for me than losing which i think applies to most

    losing will only be the winner in my book if you arr able to quit. if you arent able to so this, losing will be just that, it will just be losing..
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    Disagree. Losing is much better. The complexity of feelings and emotions after losing (the existential angst) make me feel far more alive than winning ever does. Besides, losing gives you the hope of quitting while winning only gives you the hope of winning more. Sorry, but losing is the winner in my book.

    winning or losing makes me feel alive as long as im watching. i guess what we feel would obviously be different. and for me winning a game in which the soread or ML is decided up to the last shot makes me feel so alive but the jubilation from winning that scenario is far better for me than losing which i think applies to most

    losing will only be the winner in my book if you arr able to quit. if you arent able to so this, losing will be just that, it will just be losing..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by guada21:


    winning or losing makes me feel alive as long as im watching. i guess what we feel would obviously be different. and for me winning a game in which the soread or ML is decided up to the last shot makes me feel so alive but the jubilation from winning that scenario is far better for me than losing which i think applies to most

    losing will only be the winner in my book if you arr able to quit. if you arent able to so this, losing will be just that, it will just be losing..

    Excellent point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by guada21:


    winning or losing makes me feel alive as long as im watching. i guess what we feel would obviously be different. and for me winning a game in which the soread or ML is decided up to the last shot makes me feel so alive but the jubilation from winning that scenario is far better for me than losing which i think applies to most

    losing will only be the winner in my book if you arr able to quit. if you arent able to so this, losing will be just that, it will just be losing..

    Excellent point!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 2:51 AM ET #14

    If you guys stop and truly think about it for a 2nd its pretty freaken crazy we allow gambling to control our lives really. Every degenerate on this forum can't go a single day without the thought of gambling crossing his mind. Thats pretty freaken scary if you think about it
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    If you guys stop and truly think about it for a 2nd its pretty freaken crazy we allow gambling to control our lives really. Every degenerate on this forum can't go a single day without the thought of gambling crossing his mind. Thats pretty freaken scary if you think about it
     
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    It's scary (that's for sure) but when you have OCD (like me) you are bound to obsessed with one thing or another. I used to have brilliant thoughts (I'd think of wild, creative stories or make up jokes, or come up with some brilliant ideas) but not lately. 
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    It's scary (that's for sure) but when you have OCD (like me) you are bound to obsessed with one thing or another. I used to have brilliant thoughts (I'd think of wild, creative stories or make up jokes, or come up with some brilliant ideas) but not lately. 
     
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    gambling is a freakiNg  addiction but its the same as the others.. 

    people who are alcoholic think of drinking everyday and so does smoker and so on..

    but damn i wish i was a smoker instead of gambler since smoking will take an hour or less max for smoking for the whole day i think..

    but gmmbling takes up so much time
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    gambling is a freakiNg  addiction but its the same as the others.. 

    people who are alcoholic think of drinking everyday and so does smoker and so on..

    but damn i wish i was a smoker instead of gambler since smoking will take an hour or less max for smoking for the whole day i think..

    but gmmbling takes up so much time
     
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    You wanna know why gambling is the greatest narcotic ever invented? Because it taps into some of the most primordial emotions we have as human beings. Hope, revenge, redemption and all on a daily basis. Many gamblers go through their entire lives not knowing why they do what they do. Where in life do you get  do-over, again and again. That girl you should have married, that job you never took or didn't get...in life we get one chance, maybe two, and that's it. No do-overs. That's why gambling is better than life. It is (in a sick way) more "fair."
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    You wanna know why gambling is the greatest narcotic ever invented? Because it taps into some of the most primordial emotions we have as human beings. Hope, revenge, redemption and all on a daily basis. Many gamblers go through their entire lives not knowing why they do what they do. Where in life do you get  do-over, again and again. That girl you should have married, that job you never took or didn't get...in life we get one chance, maybe two, and that's it. No do-overs. That's why gambling is better than life. It is (in a sick way) more "fair."
     
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    Oh, and I forgot the most important. The illusion of control (something we don't have in life), the possibility of seeing into the future of controlling your future, your destiny!
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    Oh, and I forgot the most important. The illusion of control (something we don't have in life), the possibility of seeing into the future of controlling your future, your destiny!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    Disagree. Losing is much better. The complexity of feelings and emotions after losing (the existential angst) make me feel far more alive than winning ever does. Besides, losing gives you the hope of quitting while winning only gives you the hope of winning more. Sorry, but losing is the winner in my book.
    Vegas likes the way you think. I don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    Disagree. Losing is much better. The complexity of feelings and emotions after losing (the existential angst) make me feel far more alive than winning ever does. Besides, losing gives you the hope of quitting while winning only gives you the hope of winning more. Sorry, but losing is the winner in my book.
    Vegas likes the way you think. I don't
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 3:40 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    You wanna know why gambling is the greatest narcotic ever invented? Because it taps into some of the most primordial emotions we have as human beings. Hope, revenge, redemption and all on a daily basis. Many gamblers go through their entire lives not knowing why they do what they do. Where in life do you get  do-over, again and again. That girl you should have married, that job you never took or didn't get...in life we get one chance, maybe two, and that's it. No do-overs. That's why gambling is better than life. It is (in a sick way) more "fair."

    eloquent thoughts BB...
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    You wanna know why gambling is the greatest narcotic ever invented? Because it taps into some of the most primordial emotions we have as human beings. Hope, revenge, redemption and all on a daily basis. Many gamblers go through their entire lives not knowing why they do what they do. Where in life do you get  do-over, again and again. That girl you should have married, that job you never took or didn't get...in life we get one chance, maybe two, and that's it. No do-overs. That's why gambling is better than life. It is (in a sick way) more "fair."

    eloquent thoughts BB...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 5:26 AM ET #21

    It's our scumbag brains that are trolling us gamblers. I read an article a while back that said something along the lines of "Using a number of control and ‘gambler’ subjects, behavioural tests looked at impulsivity, compulsivity and dopamine levels. As suspected, gamblers were more impulsive than controls; something which is mirrored in drug addicts and alcoholics. Brain imaging studies have shown that near-misses recruit areas of the brain that are associated with winning. The ‘near-miss’ phenomenon is the theory that losing a game acts as an aversive stimulus- it actually puts us off gambling. But, coming close to winning acts to fuel our desire to gamble. The fact that the same areas are activated when we almost win, and when we actually do win may encourage us to gamble – and this is something that can be exploited by game manufacturers."
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    It's our scumbag brains that are trolling us gamblers. I read an article a while back that said something along the lines of "Using a number of control and ‘gambler’ subjects, behavioural tests looked at impulsivity, compulsivity and dopamine levels. As suspected, gamblers were more impulsive than controls; something which is mirrored in drug addicts and alcoholics. Brain imaging studies have shown that near-misses recruit areas of the brain that are associated with winning. The ‘near-miss’ phenomenon is the theory that losing a game acts as an aversive stimulus- it actually puts us off gambling. But, coming close to winning acts to fuel our desire to gamble. The fact that the same areas are activated when we almost win, and when we actually do win may encourage us to gamble – and this is something that can be exploited by game manufacturers."
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 5:29 AM ET #22

    Here's the article if anyone is interested: 

    https://thebrainbank.scienceblog.com/2013/11/26/gamblers-mind-the-thrill-of-almost-winning/
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    Here's the article if anyone is interested: 

    https://thebrainbank.scienceblog.com/2013/11/26/gamblers-mind-the-thrill-of-almost-winning/
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 8:49 AM ET #23

    After 17 years of doing, I would think you know what do do when you are on a losing streak. Take a break and bet smaller instead of chasing all in. When you lose your confidence the losing streak usually continue and it's true for every single one of us. Study the forum carefully and follow some hot cappers here instead of going with your instinct. BOL bro
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    After 17 years of doing, I would think you know what do do when you are on a losing streak. Take a break and bet smaller instead of chasing all in. When you lose your confidence the losing streak usually continue and it's true for every single one of us. Study the forum carefully and follow some hot cappers here instead of going with your instinct. BOL bro
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 9:05 AM ET #24

    Good post.
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    Good post.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2015 - 10:12 AM ET #25

    Interesting read
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