Guys, I wrote about this when the Warriors and Cavs played each other the first time. I did extensive research on this. Please believe me when I say, the only way LBJ wins the MVP is if the Cavs win, LBJ is at +300 now. This is a sucker's bet. If you like him to win MVP then you are better off taking Cavs to win the series at +1100.
I will explain all later when I have time.
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Guys, I wrote about this when the Warriors and Cavs played each other the first time. I did extensive research on this. Please believe me when I say, the only way LBJ wins the MVP is if the Cavs win, LBJ is at +300 now. This is a sucker's bet. If you like him to win MVP then you are better off taking Cavs to win the series at +1100.
Ok, here is the explanation. The only MVP from a losing team was Jerry West, and that was the first year they gave out the award. After that the mvp has always been from the winning team. When Cavs played warriors the first time, LBJ was the best player on the floor and the Cavs had nobody but him, not even Love.
People thought LBJ stood a great shot to win the MVP, but there was one problem: he did not want the MVP! He told the reporters voting on the award not to vote for him if the Cavs lost. The reporters, in turn, decided to respect his wishes. They were not going to give a guy who said he did not want the award the award. So they gave it to the guy guarding him, Iggy.
Unless LBJ has changed his mind about this, there is no point in putting money on him at +300 when you can get the Cavs at +1100!
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Ok, here is the explanation. The only MVP from a losing team was Jerry West, and that was the first year they gave out the award. After that the mvp has always been from the winning team. When Cavs played warriors the first time, LBJ was the best player on the floor and the Cavs had nobody but him, not even Love.
People thought LBJ stood a great shot to win the MVP, but there was one problem: he did not want the MVP! He told the reporters voting on the award not to vote for him if the Cavs lost. The reporters, in turn, decided to respect his wishes. They were not going to give a guy who said he did not want the award the award. So they gave it to the guy guarding him, Iggy.
Unless LBJ has changed his mind about this, there is no point in putting money on him at +300 when you can get the Cavs at +1100!
Well, I was waiting for 5dimes to put the mvp odds up after game 1 and they never did. Damn them!!!!!!!! I called and called and they keep saying any moment. What crap.
Anyway take Curry for MVP at +150 or so at books that have it. Forget Durant. He ain't getting it this year. And Thompson is banged up. Wariors win, Curry wins. Cavs win, LBJ wins.
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Well, I was waiting for 5dimes to put the mvp odds up after game 1 and they never did. Damn them!!!!!!!! I called and called and they keep saying any moment. What crap.
Anyway take Curry for MVP at +150 or so at books that have it. Forget Durant. He ain't getting it this year. And Thompson is banged up. Wariors win, Curry wins. Cavs win, LBJ wins.
If he can get 2 Triple Doubles in the series he may win it....He was 1 assist short in game 1.... although refs will pick on him in games going foward to minimize him to assist the Cavs... might pick up some cheap fouls
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Quote Originally Posted by thepropkings:
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If he can get 2 Triple Doubles in the series he may win it....He was 1 assist short in game 1.... although refs will pick on him in games going foward to minimize him to assist the Cavs... might pick up some cheap fouls
5dimes knows exactly what it is doing BB and they do it well:
Keeping the best prop odds off the board until it has little to no value.
Yup. I completely agree. Was chatting with one of their online customer service guys telling him what happened. He was so apologetic saying they would get to the bottom of it. I had called twice that day asking for the odds to be put up and just lied to me. Then this guy last night says the other guys should never have told me the mvp odds would be put up because 5 dimes is no longer offering them. Then this morning, I see they have Curry up there at -300. What a bunch lying a holes!
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
5dimes knows exactly what it is doing BB and they do it well:
Keeping the best prop odds off the board until it has little to no value.
Yup. I completely agree. Was chatting with one of their online customer service guys telling him what happened. He was so apologetic saying they would get to the bottom of it. I had called twice that day asking for the odds to be put up and just lied to me. Then this guy last night says the other guys should never have told me the mvp odds would be put up because 5 dimes is no longer offering them. Then this morning, I see they have Curry up there at -300. What a bunch lying a holes!
I have to give you credit. For someone who doesn’t gamble anymore, to be on the phone for Curry’s odds like this with an offshore online book is remarkable!
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Curry -335 now B.B. Get on that!
I have to give you credit. For someone who doesn’t gamble anymore, to be on the phone for Curry’s odds like this with an offshore online book is remarkable!
Ok, here is the explanation. The only MVP from a losing team was Jerry West, and that was the first year they gave out the award. After that the mvp has always been from the winning team. When Cavs played warriors the first time, LBJ was the best player on the floor and the Cavs had nobody but him, not even Love. People thought LBJ stood a great shot to win the MVP, but there was one problem: he did not want the MVP! He told the reporters voting on the award not to vote for him if the Cavs lost. The reporters, in turn, decided to respect his wishes. They were not going to give a guy who said he did not want the award the award. So they gave it to the guy guarding him, Iggy.Unless LBJ has changed his mind about this, there is no point in putting money on him at +300 when you can get the Cavs at +1100!
Actually, in the next year, before Game 7 of 2016 NBA Finals, the reporters asked LBJ again about his opinions on awarding FMVP to a player on the losing team but he rejected to answer that question. He also said something like "I would try my best to win the game and live with the result" when asked about the FMVP race. You can interpret the answer however you like but in my opinion he would be the FMVP as long as he outperformed all the Warriors' players even if the Cavs eventually lost that Game 7 (before that game he was already leading in 5 main stats among players from both teams). I studied this before that game because I was surprised by the FMVP odds (around -250) he got before that game despite that the Cavs were the underdog to win.
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Ok, here is the explanation. The only MVP from a losing team was Jerry West, and that was the first year they gave out the award. After that the mvp has always been from the winning team. When Cavs played warriors the first time, LBJ was the best player on the floor and the Cavs had nobody but him, not even Love. People thought LBJ stood a great shot to win the MVP, but there was one problem: he did not want the MVP! He told the reporters voting on the award not to vote for him if the Cavs lost. The reporters, in turn, decided to respect his wishes. They were not going to give a guy who said he did not want the award the award. So they gave it to the guy guarding him, Iggy.Unless LBJ has changed his mind about this, there is no point in putting money on him at +300 when you can get the Cavs at +1100!
Actually, in the next year, before Game 7 of 2016 NBA Finals, the reporters asked LBJ again about his opinions on awarding FMVP to a player on the losing team but he rejected to answer that question. He also said something like "I would try my best to win the game and live with the result" when asked about the FMVP race. You can interpret the answer however you like but in my opinion he would be the FMVP as long as he outperformed all the Warriors' players even if the Cavs eventually lost that Game 7 (before that game he was already leading in 5 main stats among players from both teams). I studied this before that game because I was surprised by the FMVP odds (around -250) he got before that game despite that the Cavs were the underdog to win.
I have to give you credit. For someone who doesn’t gamble anymore, to be on the phone for Curry’s odds like this with an offshore online book is remarkable!
Scal, maybe you misunderstood me, but I mentioned to you, in another thread, that I am gambling some, but small, to let off steam. I started very late in the playoffs (after I had give out three straight winners ). Before that, I had not wagered since last year's playoffs. Anyway, if Cavs win, LBJ has a big game, and Curry is average and KD plays great, maybe Curry goes back down to -150, which I'll take a bite at. But I ain't ever seeing that +150 again.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
Curry -335 now B.B. Get on that!
I have to give you credit. For someone who doesn’t gamble anymore, to be on the phone for Curry’s odds like this with an offshore online book is remarkable!
Scal, maybe you misunderstood me, but I mentioned to you, in another thread, that I am gambling some, but small, to let off steam. I started very late in the playoffs (after I had give out three straight winners ). Before that, I had not wagered since last year's playoffs. Anyway, if Cavs win, LBJ has a big game, and Curry is average and KD plays great, maybe Curry goes back down to -150, which I'll take a bite at. But I ain't ever seeing that +150 again.
Curry now at +300 after KD's performance. Don't let the hype fool you. this thing is a dead heat and if Curry goes off tonight the MVP is his. Just before game 3, all the talk was about Curry getting the MVP. Curry was the hero in game 7 against the rockets. He was also the heron in game 3 against the rockets, and a one man show against the Cavs in game 2. +300 is a gift at betonline right now. It should be closer to +150.
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Curry now at +300 after KD's performance. Don't let the hype fool you. this thing is a dead heat and if Curry goes off tonight the MVP is his. Just before game 3, all the talk was about Curry getting the MVP. Curry was the hero in game 7 against the rockets. He was also the heron in game 3 against the rockets, and a one man show against the Cavs in game 2. +300 is a gift at betonline right now. It should be closer to +150.
Curry now at +300 after KD's performance. Don't let the hype fool you. this thing is a dead heat and if Curry goes off tonight the MVP is his. Just before game 3, all the talk was about Curry getting the MVP. Curry was the hero in game 7 against the rockets. He was also the heron in game 3 against the rockets, and a one man show against the Cavs in game 2. +300 is a gift at betonline right now. It should be closer to +150.
better off betting the curry over points at 26.5.... he doesn't score over that he has 0 shot... not only that.. but KD needs to have an awful game as well.
KD is shooting 55% for the series... currys is 38%.....
odds are spot on.
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Curry now at +300 after KD's performance. Don't let the hype fool you. this thing is a dead heat and if Curry goes off tonight the MVP is his. Just before game 3, all the talk was about Curry getting the MVP. Curry was the hero in game 7 against the rockets. He was also the heron in game 3 against the rockets, and a one man show against the Cavs in game 2. +300 is a gift at betonline right now. It should be closer to +150.
better off betting the curry over points at 26.5.... he doesn't score over that he has 0 shot... not only that.. but KD needs to have an awful game as well.
KD is shooting 55% for the series... currys is 38%.....
We were robbed! Even KD was trying to get the Steph the MVP. Draymond also admitted as much in his interview. Writers trying to stir controversy and drive a wedge in this team. As Trump would say: fake news!
We were robbed! Even KD was trying to get the Steph the MVP. Draymond also admitted as much in his interview. Writers trying to stir controversy and drive a wedge in this team. As Trump would say: fake news!
His line couldn’t have been any better in the final game to win the MVP.
It was the Cavs lack of effort and this game was essentially viewed as 48 minutes of garbage time. Had they even remotely competed and GS won, he would have won.
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His line couldn’t have been any better in the final game to win the MVP.
It was the Cavs lack of effort and this game was essentially viewed as 48 minutes of garbage time. Had they even remotely competed and GS won, he would have won.
His line couldn’t have been any better in the final game to win the MVP.
It was the Cavs lack of effort and this game was essentially viewed as 48 minutes of garbage time. Had they even remotely competed and GS won, he would have won.
Good point, Scal. Had not thought of that. Curry was genuinely disappointed, and the Warrior players (including Durant) and coaches got very defensive when asked about Curry not getting the MVP. Having watched this Warrior team closely, I could see they were irked. Durant wanted Steph to get the MVP as well. 7 voted for Durant and 4 for Curry. Big win for Nike, though.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
His line couldn’t have been any better in the final game to win the MVP.
It was the Cavs lack of effort and this game was essentially viewed as 48 minutes of garbage time. Had they even remotely competed and GS won, he would have won.
Good point, Scal. Had not thought of that. Curry was genuinely disappointed, and the Warrior players (including Durant) and coaches got very defensive when asked about Curry not getting the MVP. Having watched this Warrior team closely, I could see they were irked. Durant wanted Steph to get the MVP as well. 7 voted for Durant and 4 for Curry. Big win for Nike, though.
I think KD deserved it and it's good. KD has a personality that needs validation more than Curry. And the fact the whole team clearly were trying to get it for him takes care of any perceived wedges that could be driven. Besides, the rest of the core guys have three rings. KD has two. The finals MVPs are a nice consolation for a guy who left money on the table to be a part of this group. Curry got all the validation he needed when he inked his new deal. To anybody familiar with his first deal, that contract was a long time coming. Personally, i'm hoping the Warriors do it again and Klay or Drsymond gets finals MVP There value, Klay as a defender in addition to his scoring, Draymond as a defender in addition to his role as point forward and heart of the team, is relatively unheralded. Green does things that you just don't see unless you follow this team. He's literally a coach on the floor to guys like Looney, Bell, and McGee
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I think KD deserved it and it's good. KD has a personality that needs validation more than Curry. And the fact the whole team clearly were trying to get it for him takes care of any perceived wedges that could be driven. Besides, the rest of the core guys have three rings. KD has two. The finals MVPs are a nice consolation for a guy who left money on the table to be a part of this group. Curry got all the validation he needed when he inked his new deal. To anybody familiar with his first deal, that contract was a long time coming. Personally, i'm hoping the Warriors do it again and Klay or Drsymond gets finals MVP There value, Klay as a defender in addition to his scoring, Draymond as a defender in addition to his role as point forward and heart of the team, is relatively unheralded. Green does things that you just don't see unless you follow this team. He's literally a coach on the floor to guys like Looney, Bell, and McGee
I think KD deserved it and it's good. KD has a personality that needs validation more than Curry. And the fact the whole team clearly were trying to get it for him takes care of any perceived wedges that could be driven. Besides, the rest of the core guys have three rings. KD has two. The finals MVPs are a nice consolation for a guy who left money on the table to be a part of this group. Curry got all the validation he needed when he inked his new deal. To anybody familiar with his first deal, that contract was a long time coming. Personally, i'm hoping the Warriors do it again and Klay or Drsymond gets finals MVP There value, Klay as a defender in addition to his scoring, Draymond as a defender in addition to his role as point forward and heart of the team, is relatively unheralded. Green does things that you just don't see unless you follow this team. He's literally a coach on the floor to guys like Looney, Bell, and McGee
Disagree again. Who cares about KD, or keeping him happy. Are you kidding? This is Curry's team and it always will be. KD is a ring-chaser who joined the warriors party. he will never be loved like he was in okc and he will always be behind Curry, Thompson and Draymond in terms of fan adoration. He knows this now, and you can tell through his inconsistent play and body language. Here is a good article that expresses my own sentiments (especially about Curry outperforming him the playoffs):
I think KD deserved it and it's good. KD has a personality that needs validation more than Curry. And the fact the whole team clearly were trying to get it for him takes care of any perceived wedges that could be driven. Besides, the rest of the core guys have three rings. KD has two. The finals MVPs are a nice consolation for a guy who left money on the table to be a part of this group. Curry got all the validation he needed when he inked his new deal. To anybody familiar with his first deal, that contract was a long time coming. Personally, i'm hoping the Warriors do it again and Klay or Drsymond gets finals MVP There value, Klay as a defender in addition to his scoring, Draymond as a defender in addition to his role as point forward and heart of the team, is relatively unheralded. Green does things that you just don't see unless you follow this team. He's literally a coach on the floor to guys like Looney, Bell, and McGee
Disagree again. Who cares about KD, or keeping him happy. Are you kidding? This is Curry's team and it always will be. KD is a ring-chaser who joined the warriors party. he will never be loved like he was in okc and he will always be behind Curry, Thompson and Draymond in terms of fan adoration. He knows this now, and you can tell through his inconsistent play and body language. Here is a good article that expresses my own sentiments (especially about Curry outperforming him the playoffs):
Curry -335 now B.B. Get on that!
I didn’t see that response B.B. -335 to +300. Wow
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