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    TheSportsWizard
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:04 PM ET #51

    Yeah I did a small write up on this game.  Kobe can win any game, but he most likely want.  I'm making the same bet.

    BOL
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    Yeah I did a small write up on this game.  Kobe can win any game, but he most likely want.  I'm making the same bet.

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:06 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    Lakers have "clear-the-air" meeting earlier today.  Among other things, Kobe allegedly asked Dwight if he disliked playing w/ him.  (is this ish for real?)

    Don't know if that means anything, but I figured I'd share b/c more info is always better.

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-meeting-20130123,0,5793715.story

     

     



    This means nothing to me, and if anything makes me like MEM more.

    Have you guys been watching these games? Do you really think LAL's ineptness is due to the lack of desire on their behalf to win? This is a dysfunctional team, meeting or not, and a meeting won't change their personnel, won't change their rotation, won't change D'Antoni's lack of emphasis on defense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    Lakers have "clear-the-air" meeting earlier today.  Among other things, Kobe allegedly asked Dwight if he disliked playing w/ him.  (is this ish for real?)

    Don't know if that means anything, but I figured I'd share b/c more info is always better.

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-meeting-20130123,0,5793715.story

     

     



    This means nothing to me, and if anything makes me like MEM more.

    Have you guys been watching these games? Do you really think LAL's ineptness is due to the lack of desire on their behalf to win? This is a dysfunctional team, meeting or not, and a meeting won't change their personnel, won't change their rotation, won't change D'Antoni's lack of emphasis on defense...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:07 PM ET #53

    "D'Antoni, for his part, told reporters that the team would "maybe slow it down" on offense. He reiterated his defense-first assessment.

    “The focus needs to be on the right thing. Our defense has to get better," D'Antoni said."


    Oh, your defense has to get better? Well why didn't you say that earlier coach?

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    "D'Antoni, for his part, told reporters that the team would "maybe slow it down" on offense. He reiterated his defense-first assessment.

    “The focus needs to be on the right thing. Our defense has to get better," D'Antoni said."


    Oh, your defense has to get better? Well why didn't you say that earlier coach?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:07 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I read the rest of the thread and what you have posted here is almost EXACTLY the conversation I had with a guy here at work (fellow degen).  Not sure if that's just  or a good sign.

    GL tonight.  


    I hope you were championing the Grizzlies in that conversation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I read the rest of the thread and what you have posted here is almost EXACTLY the conversation I had with a guy here at work (fellow degen).  Not sure if that's just  or a good sign.

    GL tonight.  


    I hope you were championing the Grizzlies in that conversation?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:10 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by playing4mylife:

    what about the fact that memphis traded like 3 people off their bench? what is their rotation now? are they playing a ton of d-leaguer/rookies?


    Selby barely gets off the bench (5 mins per game), Ellington a little more but has been playing poorly recently (16 mins per game), and Speights was at 14 mins per game this year. These guys being traded will mean more time for Darrell Arthur, and that's not a bad thing in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by playing4mylife:

    what about the fact that memphis traded like 3 people off their bench? what is their rotation now? are they playing a ton of d-leaguer/rookies?


    Selby barely gets off the bench (5 mins per game), Ellington a little more but has been playing poorly recently (16 mins per game), and Speights was at 14 mins per game this year. These guys being traded will mean more time for Darrell Arthur, and that's not a bad thing in my book.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:11 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by thatsagoodone:

    Perhaps at -6, Lakers would've been pounded.  At -4, they get split action.  Could be that simple.  LOL

     

     BINGO  i think it is really that simple. Let's go Grizz!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatsagoodone:

    Perhaps at -6, Lakers would've been pounded.  At -4, they get split action.  Could be that simple.  LOL

     

     BINGO  i think it is really that simple. Let's go Grizz!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:16 PM ET #57

    Very interesting game at the Fed Ex Forum tonight.  I agree with the assessment of the Lakers as a dysfunctional team right now.

    Memphis trading those players though, shouldn't be overlooked.  Wayne Ellington and Maurice Speights will be missed... tonight.

    Foul trouble for the Grizz could be their undoing.

    When was the last game the Lakers were deeper than their opponent?
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    Very interesting game at the Fed Ex Forum tonight.  I agree with the assessment of the Lakers as a dysfunctional team right now.

    Memphis trading those players though, shouldn't be overlooked.  Wayne Ellington and Maurice Speights will be missed... tonight.

    Foul trouble for the Grizz could be their undoing.

    When was the last game the Lakers were deeper than their opponent?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:21 PM ET #58

    Liking the under in this one (187)
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    Liking the under in this one (187)
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:23 PM ET #59

    I know this post will be laughed at, but the Lakes have the psychological advantage tonight. They will give it their all and then some tonight.

    Lakes +4.5 and ML for me.

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    I know this post will be laughed at, but the Lakes have the psychological advantage tonight. They will give it their all and then some tonight.

    Lakes +4.5 and ML for me.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:24 PM ET #60

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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:25 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

    I know this post will be laughed at, but the Lakes have the psychological advantage tonight. They will give it their all and then some tonight.

    Lakes +4.5 and ML for me.



    I agree.

    Memphis plays slooowwwww.  Kinda helps the aging Lakers, IMO. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

    I know this post will be laughed at, but the Lakes have the psychological advantage tonight. They will give it their all and then some tonight.

    Lakes +4.5 and ML for me.



    I agree.

    Memphis plays slooowwwww.  Kinda helps the aging Lakers, IMO. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:30 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

    I know this post will be laughed at, but the Lakes have the psychological advantage tonight. They will give it their all and then some tonight.

    Lakes +4.5 and ML for me.

    how so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

    I know this post will be laughed at, but the Lakes have the psychological advantage tonight. They will give it their all and then some tonight.

    Lakes +4.5 and ML for me.

    how so?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:31 PM ET #63

    Memphis struggles mightily to score, now they also losr there best scoring punch off the bench in Ellington
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    Memphis struggles mightily to score, now they also losr there best scoring punch off the bench in Ellington
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:38 PM ET #64

    i wouldnt go against phoenix on the new coaching angle

    memphis is a terrible team when it comes to closing out games.... just not something i want to get involved with when you have a team on the brink of explosion...
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    i wouldnt go against phoenix on the new coaching angle

    memphis is a terrible team when it comes to closing out games.... just not something i want to get involved with when you have a team on the brink of explosion...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Memphis struggles mightily to score, now they also losr there best scoring punch off the bench in Ellington


    Ellington averages 5.5 PPG off the bench while Speights gave 6.6 PPG off of the bench. Pondexter, Arthur, and Bayless all average around 5-6 PPG off of the bench. Not a giant drop-off IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Memphis struggles mightily to score, now they also losr there best scoring punch off the bench in Ellington


    Ellington averages 5.5 PPG off the bench while Speights gave 6.6 PPG off of the bench. Pondexter, Arthur, and Bayless all average around 5-6 PPG off of the bench. Not a giant drop-off IMO
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 6:40 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    I hope you were championing the Grizzlies in that conversation?

    Indeed.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    I hope you were championing the Grizzlies in that conversation?

    Indeed.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Ellington averages 5.5 PPG off the bench while Speights gave 6.6 PPG off of the bench. Pondexter, Arthur, and Bayless all average around 5-6 PPG off of the bench. Not a giant drop-off IMO

    Pondexters out for the year. To be honest both teams have horrible benches, this will be one of the few times of the year where the lakers actually have more depth than an opponent. 
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    Ellington averages 5.5 PPG off the bench while Speights gave 6.6 PPG off of the bench. Pondexter, Arthur, and Bayless all average around 5-6 PPG off of the bench. Not a giant drop-off IMO

    Pondexters out for the year. To be honest both teams have horrible benches, this will be one of the few times of the year where the lakers actually have more depth than an opponent. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 7:00 PM ET #68

    I normally would be worried about the "new coach" angle for PHX, but that usually only works when the players are happy that the old coach is gone. I don't get the impression that was the case with Gentry given the news out of PHX. Then I just read this on top of it:

    "Blanks chose Hunter over Suns assistants Dan Majerle and Elston Turner, among others. Neither Majerle nor Turner showed up for any of the practices since Hunter was hired. Majerle, a former Suns star player and one of the most popular sports figures in the Phoenix area, has let it be known he won't be back. Turner is a highly-respected assistant who has interviewed for at least four NBA head coaching jobs, including the one in Phoenix when Mike D'Antoni left for the New York Knicks. Turner almost certainly has left his Suns job for good, too.

    After practice on Tuesday, Hunter said he wasn't sure of the status of Majerle and Turner but he certainly spoke as if he knew they wouldn't be rejoining the team."



    Can you say organization in disarray?

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    I normally would be worried about the "new coach" angle for PHX, but that usually only works when the players are happy that the old coach is gone. I don't get the impression that was the case with Gentry given the news out of PHX. Then I just read this on top of it:

    "Blanks chose Hunter over Suns assistants Dan Majerle and Elston Turner, among others. Neither Majerle nor Turner showed up for any of the practices since Hunter was hired. Majerle, a former Suns star player and one of the most popular sports figures in the Phoenix area, has let it be known he won't be back. Turner is a highly-respected assistant who has interviewed for at least four NBA head coaching jobs, including the one in Phoenix when Mike D'Antoni left for the New York Knicks. Turner almost certainly has left his Suns job for good, too.

    After practice on Tuesday, Hunter said he wasn't sure of the status of Majerle and Turner but he certainly spoke as if he knew they wouldn't be rejoining the team."



    Can you say organization in disarray?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:




    I know a few books opened it at 5.5 and moved quickly to 4.5 and 4 so you may be right.


    Strangely I think this is another close game tonight.  Lakers were in that game at Chicago, until the end.  While Chicago did control the game for the most part, come the last 3 mins of the game, it could've gone either way.  I think this can be something similar.  Somehow this game is won within 2 or 3 possessions by either team. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:




    I know a few books opened it at 5.5 and moved quickly to 4.5 and 4 so you may be right.


    Strangely I think this is another close game tonight.  Lakers were in that game at Chicago, until the end.  While Chicago did control the game for the most part, come the last 3 mins of the game, it could've gone either way.  I think this can be something similar.  Somehow this game is won within 2 or 3 possessions by either team. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 7:07 PM ET #70

    Do like Sacramento.  And I hate liking Sacramento.  LOL

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    Do like Sacramento.  And I hate liking Sacramento.  LOL

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 7:13 PM ET #72

    Kap - you really need to pay attention to Bill Kennedy and the LA Lakers.  Not exactly sure where you are getting your ref information - but I have MUCH BETTER RESOURCES to cap refs if you need them.  Honestly I cannot see how you can tell anything about refs looking at SU and ATS records overall. 

    No play at all for me.  Lean LAL based on refs. 

    My play is Under 217 in Den/Hou - now check the refs on that one. 
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    Kap - you really need to pay attention to Bill Kennedy and the LA Lakers.  Not exactly sure where you are getting your ref information - but I have MUCH BETTER RESOURCES to cap refs if you need them.  Honestly I cannot see how you can tell anything about refs looking at SU and ATS records overall. 

    No play at all for me.  Lean LAL based on refs. 

    My play is Under 217 in Den/Hou - now check the refs on that one. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 7:15 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by thatsagoodone:

    Do like Sacramento.  And I hate liking Sacramento.  LOL



    Sad statement, we won't hear those words anymore after this season.

    Good Luck to everybody in the Association today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatsagoodone:

    Do like Sacramento.  And I hate liking Sacramento.  LOL



    Sad statement, we won't hear those words anymore after this season.

    Good Luck to everybody in the Association today!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 7:49 PM ET #74

    BOL kap
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    BOL kap
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 10:18 PM ET #75

    Good call, Kap

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