Just wanted to check in and make sure I'm reading this correctly..of the Over/Under that was documented. There are 4 Plays tonight:
Orlando/Sac Under
Rockets/Bucks Under
Suns/San Antonio Under
Denver/Portland Under
Please if someone could answer that would be great, Hopefully im reading this correct..bc i already put them in.
thanks
Denver/Portland Under the line is at 210 but his calculated line is 211...the oddsmakers line is not greater than the calculated line so a under isn't recommended...Unless and not sure only he can answer is how much 1 point is a difference or is it considered a similar or close?
Orlando/Sac Under
Rockets/Bucks Under
Suns/San Antonio Under
Those 3 are correct according to his system
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Quote Originally Posted by Babooshki:
Just wanted to check in and make sure I'm reading this correctly..of the Over/Under that was documented. There are 4 Plays tonight:
Orlando/Sac Under
Rockets/Bucks Under
Suns/San Antonio Under
Denver/Portland Under
Please if someone could answer that would be great, Hopefully im reading this correct..bc i already put them in.
thanks
Denver/Portland Under the line is at 210 but his calculated line is 211...the oddsmakers line is not greater than the calculated line so a under isn't recommended...Unless and not sure only he can answer is how much 1 point is a difference or is it considered a similar or close?
Not to hijack your thread...as I'm intrigued by your system or program as I ran one in football based off of numbers and calculations...gonna post and keep track of your system picks and my system picks and see where this goes...yesterday Bulls hit so lets see how this goes..
Today both formulas like Spurs under 198.5
Again appreciate your input
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Not to hijack your thread...as I'm intrigued by your system or program as I ran one in football based off of numbers and calculations...gonna post and keep track of your system picks and my system picks and see where this goes...yesterday Bulls hit so lets see how this goes..
I get the system things...everyone's got their own....but what ever happened to making picks based on the games YOU watch and the teams YOU follow? Am I the only guy that still does this? Lol....every other thread is my statistical this my system that.....don't get me wrong I'm not knocking it, I just feel that I have a better feel based on my observations than any computer crunching numbers.
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I get the system things...everyone's got their own....but what ever happened to making picks based on the games YOU watch and the teams YOU follow? Am I the only guy that still does this? Lol....every other thread is my statistical this my system that.....don't get me wrong I'm not knocking it, I just feel that I have a better feel based on my observations than any computer crunching numbers.
FEB 27, 2013 Picks (Track Record 3-2) Lines as of 5:19PM
SAC/ORL UNDER 205.5 TOR/CLE NO BET DET/WAS NO BET GS/NY NO BET DAL/MEM NO BET MIL/HOU UNDER 220.0 NO/OKC NO BET PHX/SAN UNDER 198.5 ATL/UTA NO BET DEN/POR NO BET
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FEB 27, 2013 Picks (Track Record 3-2) Lines as of 5:19PM
SAC/ORL UNDER 205.5 TOR/CLE NO BET DET/WAS NO BET GS/NY NO BET DAL/MEM NO BET MIL/HOU UNDER 220.0 NO/OKC NO BET PHX/SAN UNDER 198.5 ATL/UTA NO BET DEN/POR NO BET
@AFNfootballnerd - If the bookmaker's line falls between the listed range, then it's a NO BET. I haven't analyzed football and feel that it's much harder to predict as you're working with less games per season.
@boston8404 - I don't follow that way of thinking, because I believe it to be flawed. Picking based on teams you follow is more susceptible to confirmation bias. Things that confirm your observations tend to get noted, while other events are treated as anomalies. Through a purely statistical method, recommendations are generally more consistent.
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@AFNfootballnerd - If the bookmaker's line falls between the listed range, then it's a NO BET. I haven't analyzed football and feel that it's much harder to predict as you're working with less games per season.
@boston8404 - I don't follow that way of thinking, because I believe it to be flawed. Picking based on teams you follow is more susceptible to confirmation bias. Things that confirm your observations tend to get noted, while other events are treated as anomalies. Through a purely statistical method, recommendations are generally more consistent.
@AFNfootballnerd - Forgot to state, if the LINE results in a NO BET, then it's a NO BET. It doesn't matter even if it's 0.5 points off, it's still a NO BET. The recommendations are predicated on meeting or exceeding a certain point in order to meet or exceed 53% certainty.
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@AFNfootballnerd - Forgot to state, if the LINE results in a NO BET, then it's a NO BET. It doesn't matter even if it's 0.5 points off, it's still a NO BET. The recommendations are predicated on meeting or exceeding a certain point in order to meet or exceed 53% certainty.
I agree with the fact that certain things theorized and confirmed give you a sense of validation yet other things not on your radar go ignored that COULD prove beneficial or detrimental later on....having said that I most certainly trust my trained eyes and 28 years of knowledge in baseball, basketball, and football. There are just certain things a computer program cannot pick up on that only the human eyes see. Good luck in your system, hope you reap some benefit out of it.
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I agree with the fact that certain things theorized and confirmed give you a sense of validation yet other things not on your radar go ignored that COULD prove beneficial or detrimental later on....having said that I most certainly trust my trained eyes and 28 years of knowledge in baseball, basketball, and football. There are just certain things a computer program cannot pick up on that only the human eyes see. Good luck in your system, hope you reap some benefit out of it.
@boston8404 - If you have a reasonable model and stay consistent, then there's nothing wrong with that. It's the consistency with a logical model that is important. Moreover, it's much easier to be consistent with numbers than with subjective observations; hence, I choose statistics as my means of differentiation. However, if you are able to maintain wagering rationally and consistently, then any criticisms to your model is unfounded.
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@boston8404 - If you have a reasonable model and stay consistent, then there's nothing wrong with that. It's the consistency with a logical model that is important. Moreover, it's much easier to be consistent with numbers than with subjective observations; hence, I choose statistics as my means of differentiation. However, if you are able to maintain wagering rationally and consistently, then any criticisms to your model is unfounded.
FEB 26, 2013 (1-3) *DEN/POR NO BET changed to UNDER @ 211.5
SAC/ORL UNDER 205.5 LOSS TOR/CLE NO BET DET/WAS NO BET GS/NY NO BET DAL/MEM NO BET MIL/HOU UNDER 220.0 WIN NO/OKC NO BET PHX/SAN UNDER 198.5 LOSS ATL/UTA NO BET DEN/POR UNDER 211.5 LOSS
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Results (Overall 4-5)
FEB 26, 2013 (1-3) *DEN/POR NO BET changed to UNDER @ 211.5
SAC/ORL UNDER 205.5 LOSS TOR/CLE NO BET DET/WAS NO BET GS/NY NO BET DAL/MEM NO BET MIL/HOU UNDER 220.0 WIN NO/OKC NO BET PHX/SAN UNDER 198.5 LOSS ATL/UTA NO BET DEN/POR UNDER 211.5 LOSS
Worth keeping a track of those picks that were losses only because they went to OT; the Suns game was well capped as an under but for 28 points in the last 4 mins. Even with that it would still have gone under without OT
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Worth keeping a track of those picks that were losses only because they went to OT; the Suns game was well capped as an under but for 28 points in the last 4 mins. Even with that it would still have gone under without OT
This is very interesting, but here is my thinking. Bookmakers have a statistical model they use as well and in turn take into the fact the teams playing after the model spits out a final value.
Bettors see lakers/t wolves and think high scoring --- hence the added points to the model. On the other side they see bulls/76ers and think low scoring. Could be why you see your model says over for the "defensive" game and under for the "offensive" team or does the model already consider that?
I've just confused myself
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This is very interesting, but here is my thinking. Bookmakers have a statistical model they use as well and in turn take into the fact the teams playing after the model spits out a final value.
Bettors see lakers/t wolves and think high scoring --- hence the added points to the model. On the other side they see bulls/76ers and think low scoring. Could be why you see your model says over for the "defensive" game and under for the "offensive" team or does the model already consider that?
Stats updated. Here are the ranges for Friday, 1st of March.
IND/TOR OVER <= 169.5 UNDER >= 185.5 NY/WAS OVER <= 186.5 UNDER >=196.0 HOU/ORL OVER <= 199.5 UNDER >= 206.0 GS/BOS OVER <= 185.0 UNDER >= 201.5 LAC/CLE OVER <= 189.5 UNDER >= 202.0 MEM/MIA OVER <= 185.0 UNDER >= 194.0 DAL/BKN OVER <= 195.0 UNDER >= 200.0 DET/NO OVER <= 185.5 UNDER >= 202.5 SAC/SAN OVER <= 184.5 UNDER >= 193.5 CHA/UTA OVER <= 185.5 UNDER >= 196.5 ATL/PHX OVER <= 192.0 UNDER >= 198.5 OKC/DEN OVER <= 200.5 UNDER >= 221.0
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Stats updated. Here are the ranges for Friday, 1st of March.
IND/TOR OVER <= 169.5 UNDER >= 185.5 NY/WAS OVER <= 186.5 UNDER >=196.0 HOU/ORL OVER <= 199.5 UNDER >= 206.0 GS/BOS OVER <= 185.0 UNDER >= 201.5 LAC/CLE OVER <= 189.5 UNDER >= 202.0 MEM/MIA OVER <= 185.0 UNDER >= 194.0 DAL/BKN OVER <= 195.0 UNDER >= 200.0 DET/NO OVER <= 185.5 UNDER >= 202.5 SAC/SAN OVER <= 184.5 UNDER >= 193.5 CHA/UTA OVER <= 185.5 UNDER >= 196.5 ATL/PHX OVER <= 192.0 UNDER >= 198.5 OKC/DEN OVER <= 200.5 UNDER >= 221.0
Miami/Sac went way over because of double OT, how do program this kind of variance? Over/unders seem like putting a gun to your head. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Baseball, football and baskets, all real difficult to predict based on models. So many variables like injuries, starters sitting, emotional motivation, etc. Computer models can not possible account for all and I do like your attempt and will be following, and hope you hit over the 53%.
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Miami/Sac went way over because of double OT, how do program this kind of variance? Over/unders seem like putting a gun to your head. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Baseball, football and baskets, all real difficult to predict based on models. So many variables like injuries, starters sitting, emotional motivation, etc. Computer models can not possible account for all and I do like your attempt and will be following, and hope you hit over the 53%.