dont know if this was mentioned already, but his interview after the championship was absolutly priceless. He wasnt even asked to go onstage, just jumped hehind the mic.
He is the man, and will be missed here for the time he spent on the Toucher and Rich morning show.
Scal also brings alot to a team off the court. Doc told him after his career if he looking for a coaching job to dial him up. And he obviously has some value if Thibodeau signed him to the bulls, after coaching him the last 3 years.
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dont know if this was mentioned already, but his interview after the championship was absolutly priceless. He wasnt even asked to go onstage, just jumped hehind the mic.
He is the man, and will be missed here for the time he spent on the Toucher and Rich morning show.
Scal also brings alot to a team off the court. Doc told him after his career if he looking for a coaching job to dial him up. And he obviously has some value if Thibodeau signed him to the bulls, after coaching him the last 3 years.
As far as the Nets go, and I can speak on this, he's not even in the top 40 of worst Nets of all-time.
Too many intangibles to assign him a proper monetary value but I will say this: He was MASSIVELY overpaid by the Celts.
Having said that, they did win a championship with him there. What does that mean and what were his contributions? Who knows?
He is the ultimate practice squad guy, and probably functions more like a 4th assistant coach at times.
It's crazy to say that slapping hands with guys at time-outs, complaining to refs on behalf of your teammates, motivating and cheering them on when you can, being the ultimate mop-up guy for end of halves/games and for fouls, and doing it all without A SINGLE COMPLAINT, is worth millions but it does mean something.
Realistically, he's probably worth about $800K to $1 mil a year.
You rarely see guys like him in the NBA today and teams recognize that.
So to answer your question....Not even close.
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As far as the Nets go, and I can speak on this, he's not even in the top 40 of worst Nets of all-time.
Too many intangibles to assign him a proper monetary value but I will say this: He was MASSIVELY overpaid by the Celts.
Having said that, they did win a championship with him there. What does that mean and what were his contributions? Who knows?
He is the ultimate practice squad guy, and probably functions more like a 4th assistant coach at times.
It's crazy to say that slapping hands with guys at time-outs, complaining to refs on behalf of your teammates, motivating and cheering them on when you can, being the ultimate mop-up guy for end of halves/games and for fouls, and doing it all without A SINGLE COMPLAINT, is worth millions but it does mean something.
Realistically, he's probably worth about $800K to $1 mil a year.
You rarely see guys like him in the NBA today and teams recognize that.
Joseph Xavier "Joe" Forte - the 21st pick in the 2001 NBA Draft (at a time when later star players Tony Parker and Gilbert Arenas were still available on the guard position). Played 8 games and went 1 for 12 from the field (.083 field goal pct.) From Wikipedia: Unfortunately, his most memorable moment with the Celtics came when he wore a Scooby-Doo shirt on the sidelines during the playoffs.
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Joseph Xavier "Joe" Forte - the 21st pick in the 2001 NBA Draft (at a time when later star players Tony Parker and Gilbert Arenas were still available on the guard position). Played 8 games and went 1 for 12 from the field (.083 field goal pct.) From Wikipedia: Unfortunately, his most memorable moment with the Celtics came when he wore a Scooby-Doo shirt on the sidelines during the playoffs.
Brian Scalabrine was in no bright spot on our roster, but the fact of the matter is, how can someone be the worst player in the history of the Celtics when he hasn't even been the worst player on our roster for the past couple years. Last year, especially in the playoffs, anytime Shelden Williams touched the ball, he shit his pants. Scalabrine's numbers are horrific, but championship caliber teams need a role player like Scal to succeed.
As for the money factor, obviously he was over-payed, but it wasn't a product of us offering him a 1 year contract worth 3.5 Mil...it was a product of the NBA's Collective Bargaining Agreement of the time which has certain guaranteed money for the progression of a contract for a veteran player. Yes, he was overpayed, but due to the CBA not because we offered him a starting contract of 3.5 Mil. Last year he was making more money than Rajon Rondo. That wasn't because the Celtics chose to pay him more than Rondo, its because the way Rookie vs. veteran contracts are set up guarantee a certain amount of money for playing so many years in the league.
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dl36,
Brian Scalabrine was in no bright spot on our roster, but the fact of the matter is, how can someone be the worst player in the history of the Celtics when he hasn't even been the worst player on our roster for the past couple years. Last year, especially in the playoffs, anytime Shelden Williams touched the ball, he shit his pants. Scalabrine's numbers are horrific, but championship caliber teams need a role player like Scal to succeed.
As for the money factor, obviously he was over-payed, but it wasn't a product of us offering him a 1 year contract worth 3.5 Mil...it was a product of the NBA's Collective Bargaining Agreement of the time which has certain guaranteed money for the progression of a contract for a veteran player. Yes, he was overpayed, but due to the CBA not because we offered him a starting contract of 3.5 Mil. Last year he was making more money than Rajon Rondo. That wasn't because the Celtics chose to pay him more than Rondo, its because the way Rookie vs. veteran contracts are set up guarantee a certain amount of money for playing so many years in the league.
Joseph Xavier "Joe" Forte - the 21st pick in the 2001 NBA Draft (at a time when later star players Tony Parker and Gilbert Arenas were still available on the guard position). Played 8 games and went 1 for 12 from the field (.083 field goal pct.) From Wikipedia: Unfortunately, his most memorable moment with the Celtics came when he wore a Scooby-Doo shirt on the sidelines during the playoffs.
do you know how much he was paid? this sounds liek a candidate
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Quote Originally Posted by godsfavoritedog:
Joseph Xavier "Joe" Forte - the 21st pick in the 2001 NBA Draft (at a time when later star players Tony Parker and Gilbert Arenas were still available on the guard position). Played 8 games and went 1 for 12 from the field (.083 field goal pct.) From Wikipedia: Unfortunately, his most memorable moment with the Celtics came when he wore a Scooby-Doo shirt on the sidelines during the playoffs.
do you know how much he was paid? this sounds liek a candidate
NBA salaries are fixed...the CBA determines the minimum contract players can get...I'm sure thats what Joe Forte got and I'm almost positive thats what Scal got...Celtics didnt give him a one year contract worth 3 million dollars...it was the last year of a multi-year contract which grows according to the CBA.
Players being overpayed only comes into play when players are overpaid from the beginning...for instance Joe Johnson, Eddie Curry, Luol Deng...all overpaid, but because the team chose to give them tons of money...not the case here where the Celts were imposed a minimum salary by the CBA.
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NBA salaries are fixed...the CBA determines the minimum contract players can get...I'm sure thats what Joe Forte got and I'm almost positive thats what Scal got...Celtics didnt give him a one year contract worth 3 million dollars...it was the last year of a multi-year contract which grows according to the CBA.
Players being overpayed only comes into play when players are overpaid from the beginning...for instance Joe Johnson, Eddie Curry, Luol Deng...all overpaid, but because the team chose to give them tons of money...not the case here where the Celts were imposed a minimum salary by the CBA.
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