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    Chus
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 12:39 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey973:

    Your a sad soul.

    No normal human is a fan of child rape.

    You are a complete embarrassment and I wouldn't be surprised if your parents commit suicide after realizing the monster they created.

    Have a good day.


    You are defending a guy who aided and abetted a child rapist for years.  That makes you a defender of child rape.  

    I suggest that you read the grand jury reports.  That is, if you can read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey973:

    Your a sad soul.

    No normal human is a fan of child rape.

    You are a complete embarrassment and I wouldn't be surprised if your parents commit suicide after realizing the monster they created.

    Have a good day.


    You are defending a guy who aided and abetted a child rapist for years.  That makes you a defender of child rape.  

    I suggest that you read the grand jury reports.  That is, if you can read.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 12:41 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:

    even espn looked like they had a deer in headlight look.  i loved it.

    What does that mean?  Who takes ESPN seriously?  They ceased being journalists years ago.  Now, they are merely a marketing company for the sports that they televise.  Anyone who takes them seriously is almost as bad as jersey973, who supports child rapists in order to protect a college football program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:

    even espn looked like they had a deer in headlight look.  i loved it.

    What does that mean?  Who takes ESPN seriously?  They ceased being journalists years ago.  Now, they are merely a marketing company for the sports that they televise.  Anyone who takes them seriously is almost as bad as jersey973, who supports child rapists in order to protect a college football program.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 12:58 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey973:

    Completely wrong you fucking retard.

    He didn't enable anything. He reported it to the man who was IN CHARGE OF THE FUCKING POLICE at the time.....his name is Gary Schultz who is currently awaiting trial for perjury.

    So Paterno reports it to his superiors and the man in charge of the police, yet he is still labeled an enabler?

    Most of you are idiots and its quite sad. I love when people say "Joe Pa was in charge of Pennsylvania." Or.." Joe Pa was the Don of Penn State, he could had done anything."

    What exactly does that mean? What more was he suppsoed to do? I mean, the guy was so fucking powerful...he clearly could have ordered a lightning bolt to come from the sky and hit Jerry Sandusky right? I mean..the guy was the President of Pennsylvania..he could have just ordered his own swat team to take out Jerry.

    You guys have all the answers.

    Telling the AD and President of the school as well as the man in charge of the police is more then enough.

    Joe Paterno did what he was supposed to do. He is a legend and he built Penn State.

    The world lost a great man.



    He knew about it since 98, when Sandusky was investigated...Your a bozo..

    Paterno was the enabler, which frankly, makes him more of a monster than the genetically defective Sandusky....

    CHUS is dead right.....

    fuck Joe Pa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey973:

    Completely wrong you fucking retard.

    He didn't enable anything. He reported it to the man who was IN CHARGE OF THE FUCKING POLICE at the time.....his name is Gary Schultz who is currently awaiting trial for perjury.

    So Paterno reports it to his superiors and the man in charge of the police, yet he is still labeled an enabler?

    Most of you are idiots and its quite sad. I love when people say "Joe Pa was in charge of Pennsylvania." Or.." Joe Pa was the Don of Penn State, he could had done anything."

    What exactly does that mean? What more was he suppsoed to do? I mean, the guy was so fucking powerful...he clearly could have ordered a lightning bolt to come from the sky and hit Jerry Sandusky right? I mean..the guy was the President of Pennsylvania..he could have just ordered his own swat team to take out Jerry.

    You guys have all the answers.

    Telling the AD and President of the school as well as the man in charge of the police is more then enough.

    Joe Paterno did what he was supposed to do. He is a legend and he built Penn State.

    The world lost a great man.



    He knew about it since 98, when Sandusky was investigated...Your a bozo..

    Paterno was the enabler, which frankly, makes him more of a monster than the genetically defective Sandusky....

    CHUS is dead right.....

    fuck Joe Pa
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 1:19 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Chus:


    You are defending a guy who aided and abetted a child rapist for years.  That makes you a defender of child rape.  

    I suggest that you read the grand jury reports.  That is, if you can read.

    lol..that makes me a defender of child rape?

    I can read. Have your parents killed themselves yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chus:


    You are defending a guy who aided and abetted a child rapist for years.  That makes you a defender of child rape.  

    I suggest that you read the grand jury reports.  That is, if you can read.

    lol..that makes me a defender of child rape?

    I can read. Have your parents killed themselves yet?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 1:21 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Humblepie:



    He knew about it since 98, when Sandusky was investigated...Your a bozo..

    Paterno was the enabler, which frankly, makes him more of a monster than the genetically defective Sandusky....

    CHUS is dead right.....

    fuck Joe Pa

    You are one of the retards who I am making fun of.

    How could Paterno be more at fault then the man who was raping little boys?

    Think about it Spiccoli. I know your slapping your chest with the side of your hand while drooling out of your mouth....but try to think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humblepie:



    He knew about it since 98, when Sandusky was investigated...Your a bozo..

    Paterno was the enabler, which frankly, makes him more of a monster than the genetically defective Sandusky....

    CHUS is dead right.....

    fuck Joe Pa

    You are one of the retards who I am making fun of.

    How could Paterno be more at fault then the man who was raping little boys?

    Think about it Spiccoli. I know your slapping your chest with the side of your hand while drooling out of your mouth....but try to think about it.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 1:24 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Humblepie:



    He knew about it since 98, when Sandusky was investigated...Your a bozo..

    Paterno was the enabler, which frankly, makes him more of a monster than the genetically defective Sandusky....

    CHUS is dead right.....

    fuck Joe Pa

    and what kind of person has an elephant as their avatar?

    didn't the poachers take all those fucks out?

    i could use a nice elephant tusk on my wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humblepie:



    He knew about it since 98, when Sandusky was investigated...Your a bozo..

    Paterno was the enabler, which frankly, makes him more of a monster than the genetically defective Sandusky....

    CHUS is dead right.....

    fuck Joe Pa

    and what kind of person has an elephant as their avatar?

    didn't the poachers take all those fucks out?

    i could use a nice elephant tusk on my wall.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 4:35 PM ET #32

    jersey dont sweat it, these are the same guys with a different name...they all say that joe paterno is a child molester and if your opinion differs they say you are also a child molester.

    the thing that is eating them alive is the scores of people who have showed up since sunday to support joe paterno.  from the psu fan, alumnus, to the common man, to the celebrity, to the rival coach, to former players who played for him or were recruited by him, to even now most of the media..the list just goes on and on and on and it drives these people crazy that their gospel of hate for a guy who probably beat their team before cannot spread further than a covers discussion forum.  they are the minority, and they arent doing a dam thing but using more negativity, to fix or help the child molestation problem in america.
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    jersey dont sweat it, these are the same guys with a different name...they all say that joe paterno is a child molester and if your opinion differs they say you are also a child molester.

    the thing that is eating them alive is the scores of people who have showed up since sunday to support joe paterno.  from the psu fan, alumnus, to the common man, to the celebrity, to the rival coach, to former players who played for him or were recruited by him, to even now most of the media..the list just goes on and on and on and it drives these people crazy that their gospel of hate for a guy who probably beat their team before cannot spread further than a covers discussion forum.  they are the minority, and they arent doing a dam thing but using more negativity, to fix or help the child molestation problem in america.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 4:57 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:

    jersey dont sweat it, these are the same guys with a different name...they all say that joe paterno is a child molester and if your opinion differs they say you are also a child molester.

    the thing that is eating them alive is the scores of people who have showed up since sunday to support joe paterno.  from the psu fan, alumnus, to the common man, to the celebrity, to the rival coach, to former players who played for him or were recruited by him, to even now most of the media..the list just goes on and on and on and it drives these people crazy that their gospel of hate for a guy who probably beat their team before cannot spread further than a covers discussion forum.  they are the minority, and they arent doing a dam thing but using more negativity, to fix or help the child molestation problem in america.


    Yeah, that's the reason. He beat my football team. Him and Cardinal Law are complete scum for sanctioning the rape of boys. Deal with it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:

    jersey dont sweat it, these are the same guys with a different name...they all say that joe paterno is a child molester and if your opinion differs they say you are also a child molester.

    the thing that is eating them alive is the scores of people who have showed up since sunday to support joe paterno.  from the psu fan, alumnus, to the common man, to the celebrity, to the rival coach, to former players who played for him or were recruited by him, to even now most of the media..the list just goes on and on and on and it drives these people crazy that their gospel of hate for a guy who probably beat their team before cannot spread further than a covers discussion forum.  they are the minority, and they arent doing a dam thing but using more negativity, to fix or help the child molestation problem in america.


    Yeah, that's the reason. He beat my football team. Him and Cardinal Law are complete scum for sanctioning the rape of boys. Deal with it...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 4:59 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey973:

    and what kind of person has an elephant as their avatar?

    didn't the poachers take all those fucks out?

    i could use a nice elephant tusk on my wall.



    What kind of person has an avi of doofus in a skin tight football shirt?

    LOL....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey973:

    and what kind of person has an elephant as their avatar?

    didn't the poachers take all those fucks out?

    i could use a nice elephant tusk on my wall.



    What kind of person has an avi of doofus in a skin tight football shirt?

    LOL....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2012 - 5:22 PM ET #35

    Paterno knew Sandusky was ass raping boys for a dozen years, and turned a blind eye.  Ignorance does excuse poor behavior.    

    As recently as last year, Sandusky was walking the campus in PSU gear, with keys to the facilities.   Nobody there had a problem with a known pedophile and rapist wandering the campus.

    Jersey973, If you don't think that JoePa was the most powerful man in State College, then you are even dumber than I previously thought.   He has been King Joe for years.   They tried to fire him several times, and he said no.    If he wanted to do the right thing, and have Sandusky stopped, he could have.  He chose not to, and proclaim his own ignorance.    A serious crime has been committed in your locker room, and you just call the AD, and not the police?  Again, ignorance does not excuse despicable behavior.   Whomever said he called the police needs to read the Grand Jury report, and stop making up facts as they go.

    JoePa: "I didn't know that a man could rape a man".   

    What the fuck is he talking about, Willis?   First of all, how does one not understand the act itself?   And JS wasn't raping men, he was raping CHILDREN.  Children that he was supposed to be helping with his foundation.    Those boys were somebody's sons.  If that was JoePa's grandson getting the high hard one from JS, would he have done something about it?  Nobody has said that JoePa is as bad as Sandusky, and nobody is only blaming JoePa.  There is definitely tons of blame to go around.   Nobody involved is a great person.  They all have their own role in the cover ups.   If you think that JoePa is a great man, you need to check your moral compass, because it is clearly broken.

    Thisguyiswise:  You think I hate him because he beat my team?  Maybe you are that much of a simpleton, but this isn't a sports story.  This is about right and wrong. It is about a man who knowingly ignored a pedophile and a rapist to protect his legacy.  Nothing he did as a coach matters anymore.  This wasn't a mistake he made.  Making a mistake is locking your keys in the car.  This was a decade long cover up of child rape, and you still think he is a great man.  Anybody who thinks that JoePa is still a great man, is the same level of scumbag that he is.   Anybody that still defends him, defends the anal rape of children, because that is exactly what JoePa did.  

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    Paterno knew Sandusky was ass raping boys for a dozen years, and turned a blind eye.  Ignorance does excuse poor behavior.    

    As recently as last year, Sandusky was walking the campus in PSU gear, with keys to the facilities.   Nobody there had a problem with a known pedophile and rapist wandering the campus.

    Jersey973, If you don't think that JoePa was the most powerful man in State College, then you are even dumber than I previously thought.   He has been King Joe for years.   They tried to fire him several times, and he said no.    If he wanted to do the right thing, and have Sandusky stopped, he could have.  He chose not to, and proclaim his own ignorance.    A serious crime has been committed in your locker room, and you just call the AD, and not the police?  Again, ignorance does not excuse despicable behavior.   Whomever said he called the police needs to read the Grand Jury report, and stop making up facts as they go.

    JoePa: "I didn't know that a man could rape a man".   

    What the fuck is he talking about, Willis?   First of all, how does one not understand the act itself?   And JS wasn't raping men, he was raping CHILDREN.  Children that he was supposed to be helping with his foundation.    Those boys were somebody's sons.  If that was JoePa's grandson getting the high hard one from JS, would he have done something about it?  Nobody has said that JoePa is as bad as Sandusky, and nobody is only blaming JoePa.  There is definitely tons of blame to go around.   Nobody involved is a great person.  They all have their own role in the cover ups.   If you think that JoePa is a great man, you need to check your moral compass, because it is clearly broken.

    Thisguyiswise:  You think I hate him because he beat my team?  Maybe you are that much of a simpleton, but this isn't a sports story.  This is about right and wrong. It is about a man who knowingly ignored a pedophile and a rapist to protect his legacy.  Nothing he did as a coach matters anymore.  This wasn't a mistake he made.  Making a mistake is locking your keys in the car.  This was a decade long cover up of child rape, and you still think he is a great man.  Anybody who thinks that JoePa is still a great man, is the same level of scumbag that he is.   Anybody that still defends him, defends the anal rape of children, because that is exactly what JoePa did.  

     
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    The fact is he "was" a great man who covered up some really horrendous stuff. You just can't claim ignorance in this situation. Protecting the legacy was more important than prosecuting a known pedophile. He had to know something wasn't right even when Jerry wasn't prosecuted.

    Jersey- You must be as ignorant as you sound. Yes he reported it to the guy who was the head of the CAMPUS police. These are the same police that you call to cover shit up when players get in fights and juvenille shit like that. You DON'T call campus police to report the anal rape of children. You call the fucking real police. Give me a break with that crap.

    He did lots of great things in his life but it is all diminished because he chose to not do the right thing. That is a fact.

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    The fact is he "was" a great man who covered up some really horrendous stuff. You just can't claim ignorance in this situation. Protecting the legacy was more important than prosecuting a known pedophile. He had to know something wasn't right even when Jerry wasn't prosecuted.

    Jersey- You must be as ignorant as you sound. Yes he reported it to the guy who was the head of the CAMPUS police. These are the same police that you call to cover shit up when players get in fights and juvenille shit like that. You DON'T call campus police to report the anal rape of children. You call the fucking real police. Give me a break with that crap.

    He did lots of great things in his life but it is all diminished because he chose to not do the right thing. That is a fact.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    The fact is he "was" a great man who covered up some really horrendous stuff. You just can't claim ignorance in this situation. Protecting the legacy was more important than prosecuting a known pedophile. He had to know something wasn't right even when Jerry wasn't prosecuted.

    Jersey- You must be as ignorant as you sound. Yes he reported it to the guy who was the head of the CAMPUS police. These are the same police that you call to cover shit up when players get in fights and juvenille shit like that. You DON'T call campus police to report the anal rape of children. You call the fucking real police. Give me a break with that crap.

    He did lots of great things in his life but it is all diminished because he chose to not do the right thing. That is a fact.


    lol. it is all diminished?

    look at how many people showed about at his funeral you fucking piece of scum.

    your one of the few ones who thinks his career is diminished.

    thank god no one gives a fuck what you think. 
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    The fact is he "was" a great man who covered up some really horrendous stuff. You just can't claim ignorance in this situation. Protecting the legacy was more important than prosecuting a known pedophile. He had to know something wasn't right even when Jerry wasn't prosecuted.

    Jersey- You must be as ignorant as you sound. Yes he reported it to the guy who was the head of the CAMPUS police. These are the same police that you call to cover shit up when players get in fights and juvenille shit like that. You DON'T call campus police to report the anal rape of children. You call the fucking real police. Give me a break with that crap.

    He did lots of great things in his life but it is all diminished because he chose to not do the right thing. That is a fact.


    lol. it is all diminished?

    look at how many people showed about at his funeral you fucking piece of scum.

    your one of the few ones who thinks his career is diminished.

    thank god no one gives a fuck what you think. 
     
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    STATE COLLEGE, PA—As thousands of mourners gathered at Penn State's campus spiritual center Wednesday afternoon to say their farewells to Joe Paterno, former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky took the opportunity to express his "deep, everlasting gratitude" for everything his late mentor had done for him.

    "When I think of how much of my life I owe to Joe Paterno, I don't even know where to begin," said Sandusky, who confessed to feeling "overcome" while attending the former football coach's funeral. "I think it's safe to say I wouldn't have been able to lead the life I've led, wouldn't have grown into the man I've become, if it hadn't been for his leadership. I can't even begin to imagine what would have become of me if not for Joe Paterno."

    "Truly, he gave me a place where I could reach my full potential—not just as a coach, but as a man," continued Sandusky, his voice cracking. "So many of my accomplishments would not have been possible without him and the unique atmosphere he created at Penn State."

    Paterno and Sandusky enjoyed a relationship stretching back almost 50 years, with each helping the other to pursue his passion. Sandusky said that while it was true the two men harbored different dreams, aspirations, and desires, Paterno was careful never to stand in his way. In fact, he affirmed, Paterno's wholehearted attention to the overall success and reputation of Penn State football allowed Sandusky to focus on building his own legacy at Happy Valley, where he was always able to go after what he wanted most.

    "How many people honestly get to fulfill their very deepest desires in life?" Sandusky said. "Let alone fulfill those desires over and over again, year in and year out, day after day, for decades? That's the kind of life Joe allowed me to live."

    Sandusky added, "I owe it all to the tradition he established at Penn State University."

    Although Sandusky said he "cherished the freedom he was allowed" under Paterno, he admitted there was never any question as to who was ultimately in charge of and responsible for the football program.

    "Make no mistake—Joe would give you free rein, but he always knew exactly what was going on in State College," said Sandusky, grinning slightly at the memory of his friend and colleague. "He had ways of letting us know that as long as we weren't interfering with Nittany Lion football, we could do our own thing and let him worry about the big picture."

    "I could not have asked for a more perfect boss," Sandusky added tearfully.

    Under the legendary head coach, 67-year-old Sandusky established a charitable organization called the Second Mile, which allowed him to bring thousands of underprivileged and at-risk youths to campus, introducing them to all aspects of the Penn State tradition. Paterno served Second Mile for years as one of the program's biggest fundraisers, thereby single-handedly helping Sandusky's involvement in the lives of as many children as possible.

    "Life is about more than just football—it's also about being active in the community," Sandusky said before speaking at length about the particular vulnerabilities of children, and going into great detail about how badly young boys need strong, confident figures in their lives. "I remember how much Joe cared about the image of Penn State football, and how determined he was to protect that image within this community."

    "I'll tell you this from the depths of my soul: Joe Paterno could do no wrong in my book," he added. "And I believe he wanted people to think the same of me."

    After stepping away from the program in 1999, Sandusky was given an emeritus position with the Nittany Lions that included an office and unrestricted access to recreation rooms, showers, and other athletic facilities, a privilege Sandusky admitted he "wouldn't have known what to do without." 

    "This was a man who looked out for his program, but at the end of the day, he was very much aware that a program is its people," Sandusky said of Paterno. "He knew that taking care of the program meant taking care of me. Sure, we had our tough times, but some things are bigger than football—like friendship, and the legacy you hope to leave behind."

    With Paterno's passing now closing the final chapter in their relationship, Sandusky said he can't help but smile when he reflects back on their tenure together at Penn State.

    "I had years of great times at Penn State," Sandusky said. "Years and years of great times. And I owe every minute to Joe Paterno."

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    STATE COLLEGE, PA—As thousands of mourners gathered at Penn State's campus spiritual center Wednesday afternoon to say their farewells to Joe Paterno, former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky took the opportunity to express his "deep, everlasting gratitude" for everything his late mentor had done for him.

    "When I think of how much of my life I owe to Joe Paterno, I don't even know where to begin," said Sandusky, who confessed to feeling "overcome" while attending the former football coach's funeral. "I think it's safe to say I wouldn't have been able to lead the life I've led, wouldn't have grown into the man I've become, if it hadn't been for his leadership. I can't even begin to imagine what would have become of me if not for Joe Paterno."

    "Truly, he gave me a place where I could reach my full potential—not just as a coach, but as a man," continued Sandusky, his voice cracking. "So many of my accomplishments would not have been possible without him and the unique atmosphere he created at Penn State."

    Paterno and Sandusky enjoyed a relationship stretching back almost 50 years, with each helping the other to pursue his passion. Sandusky said that while it was true the two men harbored different dreams, aspirations, and desires, Paterno was careful never to stand in his way. In fact, he affirmed, Paterno's wholehearted attention to the overall success and reputation of Penn State football allowed Sandusky to focus on building his own legacy at Happy Valley, where he was always able to go after what he wanted most.

    "How many people honestly get to fulfill their very deepest desires in life?" Sandusky said. "Let alone fulfill those desires over and over again, year in and year out, day after day, for decades? That's the kind of life Joe allowed me to live."

    Sandusky added, "I owe it all to the tradition he established at Penn State University."

    Although Sandusky said he "cherished the freedom he was allowed" under Paterno, he admitted there was never any question as to who was ultimately in charge of and responsible for the football program.

    "Make no mistake—Joe would give you free rein, but he always knew exactly what was going on in State College," said Sandusky, grinning slightly at the memory of his friend and colleague. "He had ways of letting us know that as long as we weren't interfering with Nittany Lion football, we could do our own thing and let him worry about the big picture."

    "I could not have asked for a more perfect boss," Sandusky added tearfully.

    Under the legendary head coach, 67-year-old Sandusky established a charitable organization called the Second Mile, which allowed him to bring thousands of underprivileged and at-risk youths to campus, introducing them to all aspects of the Penn State tradition. Paterno served Second Mile for years as one of the program's biggest fundraisers, thereby single-handedly helping Sandusky's involvement in the lives of as many children as possible.

    "Life is about more than just football—it's also about being active in the community," Sandusky said before speaking at length about the particular vulnerabilities of children, and going into great detail about how badly young boys need strong, confident figures in their lives. "I remember how much Joe cared about the image of Penn State football, and how determined he was to protect that image within this community."

    "I'll tell you this from the depths of my soul: Joe Paterno could do no wrong in my book," he added. "And I believe he wanted people to think the same of me."

    After stepping away from the program in 1999, Sandusky was given an emeritus position with the Nittany Lions that included an office and unrestricted access to recreation rooms, showers, and other athletic facilities, a privilege Sandusky admitted he "wouldn't have known what to do without." 

    "This was a man who looked out for his program, but at the end of the day, he was very much aware that a program is its people," Sandusky said of Paterno. "He knew that taking care of the program meant taking care of me. Sure, we had our tough times, but some things are bigger than football—like friendship, and the legacy you hope to leave behind."

    With Paterno's passing now closing the final chapter in their relationship, Sandusky said he can't help but smile when he reflects back on their tenure together at Penn State.

    "I had years of great times at Penn State," Sandusky said. "Years and years of great times. And I owe every minute to Joe Paterno."

     
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    And anybody gives a shit what you think? 

    If you don't think his career has a stain on it then you are a delusional fanboy. I didn't say his career accomplishments were ruined or for nothing. Big difference. Maybe pick up a dictionary and look up the word diminished.(i'll do it for you- diminish- to detract from the reputation of)

    Exactly what i am saying. I think he did lots of great things and helped lot of people and was loved by many. However he still fucked up like many of us do. That diminishes his legacy whether you like it or not. 

    How am i scum? Because i have a problem with Paterno NOT doing enough to stop children from being sexually abused? That makes me scum?

    You're delusional. 
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    And anybody gives a shit what you think? 

    If you don't think his career has a stain on it then you are a delusional fanboy. I didn't say his career accomplishments were ruined or for nothing. Big difference. Maybe pick up a dictionary and look up the word diminished.(i'll do it for you- diminish- to detract from the reputation of)

    Exactly what i am saying. I think he did lots of great things and helped lot of people and was loved by many. However he still fucked up like many of us do. That diminishes his legacy whether you like it or not. 

    How am i scum? Because i have a problem with Paterno NOT doing enough to stop children from being sexually abused? That makes me scum?

    You're delusional. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chus:

    Paterno knew Sandusky was ass raping boys for a dozen years, and turned a blind eye.  Ignorance does excuse poor behavior.    

    As recently as last year, Sandusky was walking the campus in PSU gear, with keys to the facilities.   Nobody there had a problem with a known pedophile and rapist wandering the campus.

    Jersey973, If you don't think that JoePa was the most powerful man in State College, then you are even dumber than I previously thought.   He has been King Joe for years.   They tried to fire him several times, and he said no.    If he wanted to do the right thing, and have Sandusky stopped, he could have.  He chose not to, and proclaim his own ignorance.    A serious crime has been committed in your locker room, and you just call the AD, and not the police?  Again, ignorance does not excuse despicable behavior.   Whomever said he called the police needs to read the Grand Jury report, and stop making up facts as they go.

    JoePa: "I didn't know that a man could rape a man".   

    What the fuck is he talking about, Willis?   First of all, how does one not understand the act itself?   And JS wasn't raping men, he was raping CHILDREN.  Children that he was supposed to be helping with his foundation.    Those boys were somebody's sons.  If that was JoePa's grandson getting the high hard one from JS, would he have done something about it?  Nobody has said that JoePa is as bad as Sandusky, and nobody is only blaming JoePa.  There is definitely tons of blame to go around.   Nobody involved is a great person.  They all have their own role in the cover ups.   If you think that JoePa is a great man, you need to check your moral compass, because it is clearly broken.

    Thisguyiswise:  You think I hate him because he beat my team?  Maybe you are that much of a simpleton, but this isn't a sports story.  This is about right and wrong. It is about a man who knowingly ignored a pedophile and a rapist to protect his legacy.  Nothing he did as a coach matters anymore.  This wasn't a mistake he made.  Making a mistake is locking your keys in the car.  This was a decade long cover up of child rape, and you still think he is a great man.  Anybody who thinks that JoePa is still a great man, is the same level of scumbag that he is.   Anybody that still defends him, defends the anal rape of children, because that is exactly what JoePa did.  



    point was a lot of people just dont like him before the scandal broke loose.  i had a friend who hated paterno because he was old, thought the penn state uniforms were boring, and because they beat michigan state on a regular basis at the end of the year.

    many just want to pile on a guy because of the scandal and try to bring him down with sandusky, and my point was a lot of it is from people who are jealous/despise penn state and paterno.  many pitt and temple fans hate penn state.  the list goes on.
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    Paterno knew Sandusky was ass raping boys for a dozen years, and turned a blind eye.  Ignorance does excuse poor behavior.    

    As recently as last year, Sandusky was walking the campus in PSU gear, with keys to the facilities.   Nobody there had a problem with a known pedophile and rapist wandering the campus.

    Jersey973, If you don't think that JoePa was the most powerful man in State College, then you are even dumber than I previously thought.   He has been King Joe for years.   They tried to fire him several times, and he said no.    If he wanted to do the right thing, and have Sandusky stopped, he could have.  He chose not to, and proclaim his own ignorance.    A serious crime has been committed in your locker room, and you just call the AD, and not the police?  Again, ignorance does not excuse despicable behavior.   Whomever said he called the police needs to read the Grand Jury report, and stop making up facts as they go.

    JoePa: "I didn't know that a man could rape a man".   

    What the fuck is he talking about, Willis?   First of all, how does one not understand the act itself?   And JS wasn't raping men, he was raping CHILDREN.  Children that he was supposed to be helping with his foundation.    Those boys were somebody's sons.  If that was JoePa's grandson getting the high hard one from JS, would he have done something about it?  Nobody has said that JoePa is as bad as Sandusky, and nobody is only blaming JoePa.  There is definitely tons of blame to go around.   Nobody involved is a great person.  They all have their own role in the cover ups.   If you think that JoePa is a great man, you need to check your moral compass, because it is clearly broken.

    Thisguyiswise:  You think I hate him because he beat my team?  Maybe you are that much of a simpleton, but this isn't a sports story.  This is about right and wrong. It is about a man who knowingly ignored a pedophile and a rapist to protect his legacy.  Nothing he did as a coach matters anymore.  This wasn't a mistake he made.  Making a mistake is locking your keys in the car.  This was a decade long cover up of child rape, and you still think he is a great man.  Anybody who thinks that JoePa is still a great man, is the same level of scumbag that he is.   Anybody that still defends him, defends the anal rape of children, because that is exactly what JoePa did.  



    point was a lot of people just dont like him before the scandal broke loose.  i had a friend who hated paterno because he was old, thought the penn state uniforms were boring, and because they beat michigan state on a regular basis at the end of the year.

    many just want to pile on a guy because of the scandal and try to bring him down with sandusky, and my point was a lot of it is from people who are jealous/despise penn state and paterno.  many pitt and temple fans hate penn state.  the list goes on.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humblepie:

    STATE COLLEGE, PA—As thousands of mourners gathered at Penn State's campus spiritual center Wednesday afternoon to say their farewells to Joe Paterno, former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky took the opportunity to express his "deep, everlasting gratitude" for everything his late mentor had done for him.

    "When I think of how much of my life I owe to Joe Paterno, I don't even know where to begin," said Sandusky, who confessed to feeling "overcome" while attending the former football coach's funeral. "I think it's safe to say I wouldn't have been able to lead the life I've led, wouldn't have grown into the man I've become, if it hadn't been for his leadership. I can't even begin to imagine what would have become of me if not for Joe Paterno."

    "Truly, he gave me a place where I could reach my full potential—not just as a coach, but as a man," continued Sandusky, his voice cracking. "So many of my accomplishments would not have been possible without him and the unique atmosphere he created at Penn State."

    Paterno and Sandusky enjoyed a relationship stretching back almost 50 years, with each helping the other to pursue his passion. Sandusky said that while it was true the two men harbored different dreams, aspirations, and desires, Paterno was careful never to stand in his way. In fact, he affirmed, Paterno's wholehearted attention to the overall success and reputation of Penn State football allowed Sandusky to focus on building his own legacy at Happy Valley, where he was always able to go after what he wanted most.

    "How many people honestly get to fulfill their very deepest desires in life?" Sandusky said. "Let alone fulfill those desires over and over again, year in and year out, day after day, for decades? That's the kind of life Joe allowed me to live."

    Sandusky added, "I owe it all to the tradition he established at Penn State University."

    Although Sandusky said he "cherished the freedom he was allowed" under Paterno, he admitted there was never any question as to who was ultimately in charge of and responsible for the football program.

    "Make no mistake—Joe would give you free rein, but he always knew exactly what was going on in State College," said Sandusky, grinning slightly at the memory of his friend and colleague. "He had ways of letting us know that as long as we weren't interfering with Nittany Lion football, we could do our own thing and let him worry about the big picture."

    "I could not have asked for a more perfect boss," Sandusky added tearfully.

    Under the legendary head coach, 67-year-old Sandusky established a charitable organization called the Second Mile, which allowed him to bring thousands of underprivileged and at-risk youths to campus, introducing them to all aspects of the Penn State tradition. Paterno served Second Mile for years as one of the program's biggest fundraisers, thereby single-handedly helping Sandusky's involvement in the lives of as many children as possible.

    "Life is about more than just football—it's also about being active in the community," Sandusky said before speaking at length about the particular vulnerabilities of children, and going into great detail about how badly young boys need strong, confident figures in their lives. "I remember how much Joe cared about the image of Penn State football, and how determined he was to protect that image within this community."

    "I'll tell you this from the depths of my soul: Joe Paterno could do no wrong in my book," he added. "And I believe he wanted people to think the same of me."

    After stepping away from the program in 1999, Sandusky was given an emeritus position with the Nittany Lions that included an office and unrestricted access to recreation rooms, showers, and other athletic facilities, a privilege Sandusky admitted he "wouldn't have known what to do without." 

    "This was a man who looked out for his program, but at the end of the day, he was very much aware that a program is its people," Sandusky said of Paterno. "He knew that taking care of the program meant taking care of me. Sure, we had our tough times, but some things are bigger than football—like friendship, and the legacy you hope to leave behind."

    With Paterno's passing now closing the final chapter in their relationship, Sandusky said he can't help but smile when he reflects back on their tenure together at Penn State.

    "I had years of great times at Penn State," Sandusky said. "Years and years of great times. And I owe every minute to Joe Paterno."



    You are much worse than any supporter of joe paterno.  You and espn posting the comments of Jerry Sandusky in regards to this matter is disgusting.  Jerry Sandusky is a liar in every sense of the word and if you knew a damn thing about how he was let go in 1998, you would understand that tactics this guy has pulled.  Others cant control what Jerry boy was saying, especially a passed Paterno.  But Jerry loves that Penn State's name and Paterno's name has been drug through the mud believe me.

    Not to mention Paterno is one less witness against him in court.
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    STATE COLLEGE, PA—As thousands of mourners gathered at Penn State's campus spiritual center Wednesday afternoon to say their farewells to Joe Paterno, former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky took the opportunity to express his "deep, everlasting gratitude" for everything his late mentor had done for him.

    "When I think of how much of my life I owe to Joe Paterno, I don't even know where to begin," said Sandusky, who confessed to feeling "overcome" while attending the former football coach's funeral. "I think it's safe to say I wouldn't have been able to lead the life I've led, wouldn't have grown into the man I've become, if it hadn't been for his leadership. I can't even begin to imagine what would have become of me if not for Joe Paterno."

    "Truly, he gave me a place where I could reach my full potential—not just as a coach, but as a man," continued Sandusky, his voice cracking. "So many of my accomplishments would not have been possible without him and the unique atmosphere he created at Penn State."

    Paterno and Sandusky enjoyed a relationship stretching back almost 50 years, with each helping the other to pursue his passion. Sandusky said that while it was true the two men harbored different dreams, aspirations, and desires, Paterno was careful never to stand in his way. In fact, he affirmed, Paterno's wholehearted attention to the overall success and reputation of Penn State football allowed Sandusky to focus on building his own legacy at Happy Valley, where he was always able to go after what he wanted most.

    "How many people honestly get to fulfill their very deepest desires in life?" Sandusky said. "Let alone fulfill those desires over and over again, year in and year out, day after day, for decades? That's the kind of life Joe allowed me to live."

    Sandusky added, "I owe it all to the tradition he established at Penn State University."

    Although Sandusky said he "cherished the freedom he was allowed" under Paterno, he admitted there was never any question as to who was ultimately in charge of and responsible for the football program.

    "Make no mistake—Joe would give you free rein, but he always knew exactly what was going on in State College," said Sandusky, grinning slightly at the memory of his friend and colleague. "He had ways of letting us know that as long as we weren't interfering with Nittany Lion football, we could do our own thing and let him worry about the big picture."

    "I could not have asked for a more perfect boss," Sandusky added tearfully.

    Under the legendary head coach, 67-year-old Sandusky established a charitable organization called the Second Mile, which allowed him to bring thousands of underprivileged and at-risk youths to campus, introducing them to all aspects of the Penn State tradition. Paterno served Second Mile for years as one of the program's biggest fundraisers, thereby single-handedly helping Sandusky's involvement in the lives of as many children as possible.

    "Life is about more than just football—it's also about being active in the community," Sandusky said before speaking at length about the particular vulnerabilities of children, and going into great detail about how badly young boys need strong, confident figures in their lives. "I remember how much Joe cared about the image of Penn State football, and how determined he was to protect that image within this community."

    "I'll tell you this from the depths of my soul: Joe Paterno could do no wrong in my book," he added. "And I believe he wanted people to think the same of me."

    After stepping away from the program in 1999, Sandusky was given an emeritus position with the Nittany Lions that included an office and unrestricted access to recreation rooms, showers, and other athletic facilities, a privilege Sandusky admitted he "wouldn't have known what to do without." 

    "This was a man who looked out for his program, but at the end of the day, he was very much aware that a program is its people," Sandusky said of Paterno. "He knew that taking care of the program meant taking care of me. Sure, we had our tough times, but some things are bigger than football—like friendship, and the legacy you hope to leave behind."

    With Paterno's passing now closing the final chapter in their relationship, Sandusky said he can't help but smile when he reflects back on their tenure together at Penn State.

    "I had years of great times at Penn State," Sandusky said. "Years and years of great times. And I owe every minute to Joe Paterno."



    You are much worse than any supporter of joe paterno.  You and espn posting the comments of Jerry Sandusky in regards to this matter is disgusting.  Jerry Sandusky is a liar in every sense of the word and if you knew a damn thing about how he was let go in 1998, you would understand that tactics this guy has pulled.  Others cant control what Jerry boy was saying, especially a passed Paterno.  But Jerry loves that Penn State's name and Paterno's name has been drug through the mud believe me.

    Not to mention Paterno is one less witness against him in court.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chus:

    I'll relax when the victims get to relax, which is never.  Shame on anybody for defending this enabler.  It was more important to protect the program and his legacy, than to do what was right, and stop that monster from RAPING CHILDREN.  


    you are fucking pathetic....joe pa forever! SO since you like sandusky so much and talk about him so much why don't you go suck his dick in jail. Fuck off this forum cause Paterno is a great man! great Legend! and unforgettable person!
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    I'll relax when the victims get to relax, which is never.  Shame on anybody for defending this enabler.  It was more important to protect the program and his legacy, than to do what was right, and stop that monster from RAPING CHILDREN.  


    you are fucking pathetic....joe pa forever! SO since you like sandusky so much and talk about him so much why don't you go suck his dick in jail. Fuck off this forum cause Paterno is a great man! great Legend! and unforgettable person!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 4:19 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by brm5208:



    you are fucking pathetic....joe pa forever! SO since you like sandusky so much and talk about him so much why don't you go suck his dick in jail. Fuck off this forum cause Paterno is a great man! great Legend! and unforgettable person!

    When did I ever defend Sandusky?  No surprise to this veteran observer that you have such a limited reading comprehension.    

    You think that a man who didn't stop a man from raping children is a great man?   You support child rape, child rapists, and those who cover it up.  Shame on you.
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    you are fucking pathetic....joe pa forever! SO since you like sandusky so much and talk about him so much why don't you go suck his dick in jail. Fuck off this forum cause Paterno is a great man! great Legend! and unforgettable person!

    When did I ever defend Sandusky?  No surprise to this veteran observer that you have such a limited reading comprehension.    

    You think that a man who didn't stop a man from raping children is a great man?   You support child rape, child rapists, and those who cover it up.  Shame on you.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 6:57 PM ET #44

    phil knight just shitted on you haters....a big old dump in your face
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:

    phil knight just shitted on you haters....a big old dump in your face

    You mean the guy whose product is made in third world sweat shops by children?
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    phil knight just shitted on you haters....a big old dump in your face

    You mean the guy whose product is made in third world sweat shops by children?
     
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    Commenting on those events, Knight said, "it turns out [Paterno] gave full disclosure to his superiors, information that went up the chains to the head of the campus police and the president of the school. The matter was in the hands of a world-class university, and by a president with an outstanding national reputation."

    Knight added, "...this much is clear to me. If there is a villain in this tragedy, it lies in that investigation and not in Joe Paterno."


    your list of child molesters include joe paterno, urban myer, luke fickell, coach k, phil knight,  kirk ferentz, mike ditka, lloyd carr, kirk herbstreit, lou holtz, nick saban, lavelle edwards, brent musberger, any former penn state player, any paterno family member, myself and any others who believe paterno did more than nothing and was pushed out by the media just to name a few.

    your theory is crumbling to pieces as you are just one of a few who has not done their research in the matter and were mislead by media reports and overreaction from the penn state "trustees"

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    Commenting on those events, Knight said, "it turns out [Paterno] gave full disclosure to his superiors, information that went up the chains to the head of the campus police and the president of the school. The matter was in the hands of a world-class university, and by a president with an outstanding national reputation."

    Knight added, "...this much is clear to me. If there is a villain in this tragedy, it lies in that investigation and not in Joe Paterno."


    your list of child molesters include joe paterno, urban myer, luke fickell, coach k, phil knight,  kirk ferentz, mike ditka, lloyd carr, kirk herbstreit, lou holtz, nick saban, lavelle edwards, brent musberger, any former penn state player, any paterno family member, myself and any others who believe paterno did more than nothing and was pushed out by the media just to name a few.

    your theory is crumbling to pieces as you are just one of a few who has not done their research in the matter and were mislead by media reports and overreaction from the penn state "trustees"

     
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    You are much worse than any supporter of joe paterno.  You and espn posting the comments of Jerry Sandusky in regards to this matter is disgusting.  Jerry Sandusky is a liar in every sense of the word and if you knew a damn thing about how he was let go in 1998, you would understand that tactics this guy has pulled.  Others cant control what Jerry boy was saying, especially a passed Paterno.  But Jerry loves that Penn State's name and Paterno's name has been drug through the mud believe me.

    Not to mention Paterno is one less witness against him in court.


    Why was he let go??? At the top of his game????Why was he given an office on campus after being let go????? Answer that...

    Let me help you...Because it was thought that if it was swept under the rug, that if Paterno didn't have to hear about it, or be to close to it to affect his legacy, then raping boys was OK with him, as long as it could be ignored....

    Until it couldn't...

    Ergo complicity, ergo scum......
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    You are much worse than any supporter of joe paterno.  You and espn posting the comments of Jerry Sandusky in regards to this matter is disgusting.  Jerry Sandusky is a liar in every sense of the word and if you knew a damn thing about how he was let go in 1998, you would understand that tactics this guy has pulled.  Others cant control what Jerry boy was saying, especially a passed Paterno.  But Jerry loves that Penn State's name and Paterno's name has been drug through the mud believe me.

    Not to mention Paterno is one less witness against him in court.


    Why was he let go??? At the top of his game????Why was he given an office on campus after being let go????? Answer that...

    Let me help you...Because it was thought that if it was swept under the rug, that if Paterno didn't have to hear about it, or be to close to it to affect his legacy, then raping boys was OK with him, as long as it could be ignored....

    Until it couldn't...

    Ergo complicity, ergo scum......
     
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    ESPN lionizing this POS is disgusting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:

    phil knight just shitted on you haters....a big old dump in your face


    Chamberlain appeased Hitler too....
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    Chamberlain appeased Hitler too....
     
     
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    At the time Sandusky was canned, the two men were hardly friends. Joe basically forced his retirement. After Sandusky's retirement in '99, the two rarely spoke to each other. PSU administrators, not Paterno, negotiated a lucrative retirement agreement with Sandusky. That agreement included emeritus status of Sandusky, which meant he had a legal right to use the campus facilities. Joe Paterno did not have to ability to kick an emeritus professor off campus. And if you think he had enough power to do so, how then did he not have enough power to save his own job? I guess that you are also aware that after the 2002 incident was reported to him, that Joe reported it to his superiors, including the head of campus police, per protocol. I assume that you also know the exact dialogue between Joe and the grad student when the incident was reported to him...Please understand that I do realize that the actual facts are more than likely worthless to you, but I figured I'd try.

    refer to this or phil knights speech, whichever you choose, you lose
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    At the time Sandusky was canned, the two men were hardly friends. Joe basically forced his retirement. After Sandusky's retirement in '99, the two rarely spoke to each other. PSU administrators, not Paterno, negotiated a lucrative retirement agreement with Sandusky. That agreement included emeritus status of Sandusky, which meant he had a legal right to use the campus facilities. Joe Paterno did not have to ability to kick an emeritus professor off campus. And if you think he had enough power to do so, how then did he not have enough power to save his own job? I guess that you are also aware that after the 2002 incident was reported to him, that Joe reported it to his superiors, including the head of campus police, per protocol. I assume that you also know the exact dialogue between Joe and the grad student when the incident was reported to him...Please understand that I do realize that the actual facts are more than likely worthless to you, but I figured I'd try.

    refer to this or phil knights speech, whichever you choose, you lose
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