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    Mel Kiper telling Tebow the truth he aint no NFL qb maybe a 3rd rd HBack What did I tell you.

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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 2:34 PM ET #26

    The reason he came in 3rd is because voters that left him off the ballot saw his numbers were the worst of the 3 and some of the worst that they have seen in 10 years. When people talk about Tebow they dont talk about his numbers and how he won games because his defense was because of that; its leadership; its so freakin stupid and the voters saw that and said he doesnt even deserve to be on the ballot plain and simple. Live with it its over.
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    The reason he came in 3rd is because voters that left him off the ballot saw his numbers were the worst of the 3 and some of the worst that they have seen in 10 years. When people talk about Tebow they dont talk about his numbers and how he won games because his defense was because of that; its leadership; its so freakin stupid and the voters saw that and said he doesnt even deserve to be on the ballot plain and simple. Live with it its over.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #27

    stop hatin on the boy.....he is what he is....nfl or not, 2 national championships is more than 99.9% of qbs will ever get....
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    stop hatin on the boy.....he is what he is....nfl or not, 2 national championships is more than 99.9% of qbs will ever get....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 2:53 PM ET #28

    90% of what you say is not fact it's opinion. i put up facts & real numbers in my earlier post. you come off as arrogant calling other people's arguments stupid or invalid. no, you can't measure & judge passion & leadership with stats but you can definitely measure it & consider it when talking about the value of a player & his significance to his team. you say harrell, bradford & mccoy all have the same passiion & leadership. maybe that's true. i don't really know. i will say just because someone has big numbers & gets drafted high dosen't mean they have passion or leadership. that's a fact!
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    90% of what you say is not fact it's opinion. i put up facts & real numbers in my earlier post. you come off as arrogant calling other people's arguments stupid or invalid. no, you can't measure & judge passion & leadership with stats but you can definitely measure it & consider it when talking about the value of a player & his significance to his team. you say harrell, bradford & mccoy all have the same passiion & leadership. maybe that's true. i don't really know. i will say just because someone has big numbers & gets drafted high dosen't mean they have passion or leadership. that's a fact!
     
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    You see most of people have him already with 2 NC without playing the game; you can measure numbers you cant measure leadership; bradford and harrell and mccoy have just as much as tebone and when did i say if you get drafted high you have it; what i said about tebow is he is not an nfl qb PERIOD; he can tell Kiper and coaches but leaders dont make a good qb if so Barack would be a qb; you have to have SKILLS and ABILITY and he had neither as a NFL qb and that is a FACT. I am not saying he has leadership skills but god its like that is the only thing you hear about him because his numbers stink. Was he as a great of a leader when he lost 4 games and got his ass handed to him in his bowl game last year. I never heard much about that last year. I guess if you dont have the numbers to back it up its leadership that takes over. I have nothing against tebow i just think he needs to realize for his future like matt jones did that he will fail as an nfl qb and needs to start training to be a TE or an Hback; I mean seriously have you seen him throw the ball; it works in college but its like that game 100 when you throw the ball in the air and say 100 and whoever catches it gets 100 pts winner to a thousand. In the NFL its a whole new ball game.
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    You see most of people have him already with 2 NC without playing the game; you can measure numbers you cant measure leadership; bradford and harrell and mccoy have just as much as tebone and when did i say if you get drafted high you have it; what i said about tebow is he is not an nfl qb PERIOD; he can tell Kiper and coaches but leaders dont make a good qb if so Barack would be a qb; you have to have SKILLS and ABILITY and he had neither as a NFL qb and that is a FACT. I am not saying he has leadership skills but god its like that is the only thing you hear about him because his numbers stink. Was he as a great of a leader when he lost 4 games and got his ass handed to him in his bowl game last year. I never heard much about that last year. I guess if you dont have the numbers to back it up its leadership that takes over. I have nothing against tebow i just think he needs to realize for his future like matt jones did that he will fail as an nfl qb and needs to start training to be a TE or an Hback; I mean seriously have you seen him throw the ball; it works in college but its like that game 100 when you throw the ball in the air and say 100 and whoever catches it gets 100 pts winner to a thousand. In the NFL its a whole new ball game.
     
     
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    you can compare numbers you cant compare passion. Its a stupid argument.

    You're right trichardson.  Case Keenum, of Houston, led the nation in passing yards and had an impressive 51 total TDs to go along with that(only 1 TD shy of Bradford).  He never threw for less than 317 yards in a game and threw for over 400 yards on 5 separate occasions.  To tope off his sophmore season, he led his team to a winning record and a bowl bid to face Air Force. 

    Take the heisman back from Bradford and give it to Case Keenum.  After all, numbers don't lie and nothing else matters, even strength of conference (or spelling if you're trichardson for that matter).

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    you can compare numbers you cant compare passion. Its a stupid argument.

    You're right trichardson.  Case Keenum, of Houston, led the nation in passing yards and had an impressive 51 total TDs to go along with that(only 1 TD shy of Bradford).  He never threw for less than 317 yards in a game and threw for over 400 yards on 5 separate occasions.  To tope off his sophmore season, he led his team to a winning record and a bowl bid to face Air Force. 

    Take the heisman back from Bradford and give it to Case Keenum.  After all, numbers don't lie and nothing else matters, even strength of conference (or spelling if you're trichardson for that matter).

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