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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 6:51 PM ET #1

    Line certainly double digits plus.

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    Line certainly double digits plus.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 6:52 PM ET #2

    Duke by a million.

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    Duke by a million.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 7:03 PM ET #3

    Bush league, took two cheap shoves and retaliated, wasn’t even enough to get called on the floor

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    Bush league, took two cheap shoves and retaliated, wasn’t even enough to get called on the floor

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 7:07 PM ET #4

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     I see Duke -13. To high?

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     I see Duke -13. To high?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 7:21 PM ET #5

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     Thinking 15.5

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     Thinking 15.5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:15 PM ET #6

    Buddy sucks. Has he been good this year? He was cheeks last year.

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    Buddy sucks. Has he been good this year? He was cheeks last year.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:20 PM ET #7

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     Double teamed all year, still led the league in scoring.

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     Double teamed all year, still led the league in scoring.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:24 PM ET #8

    should be for rest of year but Im sure not. cuse season is over anyway

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    should be for rest of year but Im sure not. cuse season is over anyway

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:34 PM ET #9

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     Yeah buddy sucks

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     Yeah buddy sucks

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:35 PM ET #10

    More shots for swider

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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:36 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by bellsbendboy:

    @StumpTownStu  Double teamed all year, still led the league in scoring.
    this would matter if they had a good record 

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    @StumpTownStu  Double teamed all year, still led the league in scoring.
    this would matter if they had a good record 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:47 PM ET #12

    Very strange year, lost games by leading by 17,18,18 pts.  Lost games when ahead with the ball with less than 15 seconds left thrice.

    Injuries, #8 freshman recruit no talent, incredibly slow group, rated 280th in defense, no point guard, etc.

     

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    Very strange year, lost games by leading by 17,18,18 pts.  Lost games when ahead with the ball with less than 15 seconds left thrice.

    Injuries, #8 freshman recruit no talent, incredibly slow group, rated 280th in defense, no point guard, etc.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:54 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by bellsbendboy:

    @StumpTownStu  Double teamed all year, still led the league in scoring.

    He always scored a ton. He's the coaches baby boy. He gets the minutes and the shot attempts. It's not like he ever shot a phenomenal percentage from the field, or behind the arc. Average. He didn't rebound his position very well, especially for a 6'6" wing in college. He's not a good defender, again, especially for a 6'6" wing in college. He's not a big guard that has a crazy post presence. Maybe some of this has changed this season. This is why I asked. He's unimpressive.

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    @StumpTownStu  Double teamed all year, still led the league in scoring.

    He always scored a ton. He's the coaches baby boy. He gets the minutes and the shot attempts. It's not like he ever shot a phenomenal percentage from the field, or behind the arc. Average. He didn't rebound his position very well, especially for a 6'6" wing in college. He's not a good defender, again, especially for a 6'6" wing in college. He's not a big guard that has a crazy post presence. Maybe some of this has changed this season. This is why I asked. He's unimpressive.

     
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    Fair enough, in rebuttal he is a prototypical two guard, tremendous worker and always is getting better.  Discounting his freshman year, (10min a game) since he has averaged 36,36, and this year 38 minutes per.  Soph, jr and senior years stat show massive chronological improvement.

    His shooting has been average as you say but his clean looks are rare, always guarded by the opponents best defender and always doubled off the pick n roll.

    Compelling stats;  free throw % last three yrs  74, 85, 90

    Assists per gm  2, 2.5, 3

    Rebounds 1.9, 2.5, 3

    Thinking he goes early 2nd round and gets a good gig  as a back up 2 guard,

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    Fair enough, in rebuttal he is a prototypical two guard, tremendous worker and always is getting better.  Discounting his freshman year, (10min a game) since he has averaged 36,36, and this year 38 minutes per.  Soph, jr and senior years stat show massive chronological improvement.

    His shooting has been average as you say but his clean looks are rare, always guarded by the opponents best defender and always doubled off the pick n roll.

    Compelling stats;  free throw % last three yrs  74, 85, 90

    Assists per gm  2, 2.5, 3

    Rebounds 1.9, 2.5, 3

    Thinking he goes early 2nd round and gets a good gig  as a back up 2 guard,

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 9:37 PM ET #15

    Worst part was his father coming to his defense and brushing it off. His son has more accountability and character than his father. 

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    Worst part was his father coming to his defense and brushing it off. His son has more accountability and character than his father. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 9:48 PM ET #16

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     A father coming to the defense of his son; how unusual.

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     A father coming to the defense of his son; how unusual.

     
     
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     I know he's a prototypical two. That's why I'm so versed in his game, or lack there of. You see, I focus on conferences. Mostly the same handful of mid-majors, the OVC, the Summit, etc but I mix in a few majors every season. Was on the ACC the past two seasons, one of which was the Covid season. Have not been on the ACC this season. Buddy hit my radar as a sophomore. I was already aware of his older brother at this point. I see this kid and I'm thinking, "Okay. It's Jim's kid." Most times when a coaches kid is on the team, he's a 6 foot nothing legacy roster spot. Four year player who works his way up to 4 minutes a game as a senior. This kid was starting though. And a legit 6'6" with good length. I've always been a sucker for a prototypical two so I took notice. I followed him for two seasons. I was unimpressed. I made multiple threads bashing him last season. His game has not gotten better. He's the same player I saw as a sophomore and junior. Does not rebound his position. He's a legit 6'6". He's not 6'4" listed as 6'6". In college, you're the tallest guy on the court sometimes at 6'6". He looks tall and long out there but he does not rebound. He is not a good defender. At that height, as a college wing, you should be a versatile defender. You should guard at least 2-4. He doesn't. Oh yeah, he isn't a great facilitator either. I know that's not necessary the role of a two but by your third year, getting starters minutes, running your dad's system, I'd like to think you'd be logging 4.5ish assists from the two-spot, but it's hard to log assists when you're always casting. Buddy shoots. He could always score because he gets the minutes and he gets the attempts.

    I mean, what can you do though. I'd start him and give him the green light too. He's still a solid volume shooter. I thought he'd be like Klay. Klay developed into the defender he became AFTER coming to league but you could see the potential in Pullman. He was a better defender, better rebounder as a sophomore and junior than Buddy.

    Still like his value as a mid 2nd rounder but I don't see him becoming Klay, or even Kyle Korver.

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     I know he's a prototypical two. That's why I'm so versed in his game, or lack there of. You see, I focus on conferences. Mostly the same handful of mid-majors, the OVC, the Summit, etc but I mix in a few majors every season. Was on the ACC the past two seasons, one of which was the Covid season. Have not been on the ACC this season. Buddy hit my radar as a sophomore. I was already aware of his older brother at this point. I see this kid and I'm thinking, "Okay. It's Jim's kid." Most times when a coaches kid is on the team, he's a 6 foot nothing legacy roster spot. Four year player who works his way up to 4 minutes a game as a senior. This kid was starting though. And a legit 6'6" with good length. I've always been a sucker for a prototypical two so I took notice. I followed him for two seasons. I was unimpressed. I made multiple threads bashing him last season. His game has not gotten better. He's the same player I saw as a sophomore and junior. Does not rebound his position. He's a legit 6'6". He's not 6'4" listed as 6'6". In college, you're the tallest guy on the court sometimes at 6'6". He looks tall and long out there but he does not rebound. He is not a good defender. At that height, as a college wing, you should be a versatile defender. You should guard at least 2-4. He doesn't. Oh yeah, he isn't a great facilitator either. I know that's not necessary the role of a two but by your third year, getting starters minutes, running your dad's system, I'd like to think you'd be logging 4.5ish assists from the two-spot, but it's hard to log assists when you're always casting. Buddy shoots. He could always score because he gets the minutes and he gets the attempts.

    I mean, what can you do though. I'd start him and give him the green light too. He's still a solid volume shooter. I thought he'd be like Klay. Klay developed into the defender he became AFTER coming to league but you could see the potential in Pullman. He was a better defender, better rebounder as a sophomore and junior than Buddy.

    Still like his value as a mid 2nd rounder but I don't see him becoming Klay, or even Kyle Korver.

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