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    Atlantic-10 Cincy vs. Xavier

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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 10:59 AM ET #1

    YTD Total 45-32-3 (+13.46 units)
    Big Plays (2-1)

    Sides: 34-20-2
    Totals: 11-12-1
    ML dogs: 1-1
    Parlays: 2-2

    Great day yesterday 3-0 (+3.75u) and a small 4 team parlay loss (.25u).

    One game for tonight, back to OOC, with Xavier and Cincy. I see a majority of the board liking X tonight. Seems to be a popular play. People like to say that these rivalries are often close, which they can be

    Since 2006, 2 of the 5 games have ended in 10 or more pts, and going back 1 more year it would be 3 of the 6, so they arent exactly close all the time.

    Cincy has dominated at home this year. They smashed up Dayton earlier in the year, and I know their schedule hasnt been bruising, but they have been handling business each and every game. Most recently they beat SH by 17 (-9 spread) and they have won their last 8 games by 10 or more pts, including a handful of games where the spread was under 10.

    I fully believe that Xavier can hang tight, but something just doesnt seem right here. It has been a down year IMO for X, and with the injury to top bench guy Canty, their team is even thinner. Their bench is to be desired and Tu plays 40 mins a game, and the rest of the starters are out there much too long. This team is going to tire out. Luckily for them, their skills should be good enough to go 10-6+ in conference play.

    I just dont like Xavier in this spot. I would lean Cincy. I know it isnt a popular pick, and at -9, I wouldnt play it, but if it drops a couple of points, I might. Xavier has had trouble shooting all year (esp the 3), and can get beat on the glass. Cincy has a great rebounding team stats wise and their defense is styfling. Im not so sure how X is going to be able to score so easily tonight.

    Xavier has not been that impressive on the road this year.

    In their 3 true road games:
    W Seton Hall by 5
    L Gonzaga by 10
    L Mia OH by 11.

    Cincy went into MIA OH and won easily by mid DD's.

    I dont like to tell anyone what to do, but I know what I wont do, and thats take Xavier tonight...

    Lets see where the line goes, and if I play the Bearcats

    I could go on and on about it, but Id lean Cincy, and wouldnt touch X with a pole.

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    YTD Total 45-32-3 (+13.46 units)
    Big Plays (2-1)

    Sides: 34-20-2
    Totals: 11-12-1
    ML dogs: 1-1
    Parlays: 2-2

    Great day yesterday 3-0 (+3.75u) and a small 4 team parlay loss (.25u).

    One game for tonight, back to OOC, with Xavier and Cincy. I see a majority of the board liking X tonight. Seems to be a popular play. People like to say that these rivalries are often close, which they can be

    Since 2006, 2 of the 5 games have ended in 10 or more pts, and going back 1 more year it would be 3 of the 6, so they arent exactly close all the time.

    Cincy has dominated at home this year. They smashed up Dayton earlier in the year, and I know their schedule hasnt been bruising, but they have been handling business each and every game. Most recently they beat SH by 17 (-9 spread) and they have won their last 8 games by 10 or more pts, including a handful of games where the spread was under 10.

    I fully believe that Xavier can hang tight, but something just doesnt seem right here. It has been a down year IMO for X, and with the injury to top bench guy Canty, their team is even thinner. Their bench is to be desired and Tu plays 40 mins a game, and the rest of the starters are out there much too long. This team is going to tire out. Luckily for them, their skills should be good enough to go 10-6+ in conference play.

    I just dont like Xavier in this spot. I would lean Cincy. I know it isnt a popular pick, and at -9, I wouldnt play it, but if it drops a couple of points, I might. Xavier has had trouble shooting all year (esp the 3), and can get beat on the glass. Cincy has a great rebounding team stats wise and their defense is styfling. Im not so sure how X is going to be able to score so easily tonight.

    Xavier has not been that impressive on the road this year.

    In their 3 true road games:
    W Seton Hall by 5
    L Gonzaga by 10
    L Mia OH by 11.

    Cincy went into MIA OH and won easily by mid DD's.

    I dont like to tell anyone what to do, but I know what I wont do, and thats take Xavier tonight...

    Lets see where the line goes, and if I play the Bearcats

    I could go on and on about it, but Id lean Cincy, and wouldnt touch X with a pole.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 11:00 AM ET #2

    Everyone and their mom are on Xavier and CoC today.
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    Everyone and their mom are on Xavier and CoC today.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 11:02 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by kimoinsd808:

    Everyone and their mom are on Xavier and CoC today.

    I see those 2 are popular. Lets see

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimoinsd808:

    Everyone and their mom are on Xavier and CoC today.

    I see those 2 are popular. Lets see

     
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    Nice write up, and I agree Crus.  Cincy has been shutting opponents down from 3, and are outrebounding by a large margin.  Xavier is weak on the glass, and have serious injury issues.  I lean to Cincy as well.  Free throw shooting is a concern for the Bearcats, shooting only 68%.  With this being a rivalry game, I dont think Cincy is looking ahead to Villanova.  Revenge should be on the minds for Cronin and his boys.  Cincinnati or no play for me.  BOL
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    Nice write up, and I agree Crus.  Cincy has been shutting opponents down from 3, and are outrebounding by a large margin.  Xavier is weak on the glass, and have serious injury issues.  I lean to Cincy as well.  Free throw shooting is a concern for the Bearcats, shooting only 68%.  With this being a rivalry game, I dont think Cincy is looking ahead to Villanova.  Revenge should be on the minds for Cronin and his boys.  Cincinnati or no play for me.  BOL
     
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    Yessir.  I was going to play Xavier, CoC, Villanova and Hawaii today until I came into covers and saw that a bunch of folks were on those plays.  That gave me serious pause.  I may lay off all but Villanova.

    BTW, Donnie Baseball is my all-time favorite baseball player.
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    Yessir.  I was going to play Xavier, CoC, Villanova and Hawaii today until I came into covers and saw that a bunch of folks were on those plays.  That gave me serious pause.  I may lay off all but Villanova.

    BTW, Donnie Baseball is my all-time favorite baseball player.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 11:10 AM ET #6

    Cincinnati...An example, perhaps, of UCLA 1971-72? Let’s not get carried away with Cincy’s 13-0 start, but things are encouraging in the Queen City. Yes, the Bearcats definitely played a lower-grade non-conference schedule before the Big East wars that began this past Tuesday with an easy home win over DePaul (likely the softest touch in this year's Big East) . What we can say about Cincy is that it didn’t stub its toe along the way, and Mick Cronin’s Bearcats have developed a lot of self-confidence as new scoring options have emerged (frosh G Sean Kilpatrick 10 points per game off bench). Cincy is also playing some nasty defense, having led the nation in scoring "D" (51.5 PPG) for much of the last month. Balance and aggression are two qualities that should continue to work in Cincy’s favor...and that new-found confidence can’t hurt.
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    Cincinnati...An example, perhaps, of UCLA 1971-72? Let’s not get carried away with Cincy’s 13-0 start, but things are encouraging in the Queen City. Yes, the Bearcats definitely played a lower-grade non-conference schedule before the Big East wars that began this past Tuesday with an easy home win over DePaul (likely the softest touch in this year's Big East) . What we can say about Cincy is that it didn’t stub its toe along the way, and Mick Cronin’s Bearcats have developed a lot of self-confidence as new scoring options have emerged (frosh G Sean Kilpatrick 10 points per game off bench). Cincy is also playing some nasty defense, having led the nation in scoring "D" (51.5 PPG) for much of the last month. Balance and aggression are two qualities that should continue to work in Cincy’s favor...and that new-found confidence can’t hurt.
     
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    The key points for me are the defense and rebounding.  Xavier admittedly has struggled to score at times.  They are also barely winning the rebounding battle every night.  Cincy has dominated guarding the perimeter and rebounding.  Xavier running a short rotation could be worn out by the second half.
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    The key points for me are the defense and rebounding.  Xavier admittedly has struggled to score at times.  They are also barely winning the rebounding battle every night.  Cincy has dominated guarding the perimeter and rebounding.  Xavier running a short rotation could be worn out by the second half.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2011 - 11:29 AM ET #8

    BOL,,,  THE BIG LINE SEEMS TO BE BEGGING U 2 TAKE X...SO IT WOULD SEEM CINNCY IS THE BET
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    BOL,,,  THE BIG LINE SEEMS TO BE BEGGING U 2 TAKE X...SO IT WOULD SEEM CINNCY IS THE BET
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by drhl:

    BOL,,,  THE BIG LINE SEEMS TO BE BEGGING U 2 TAKE X...SO IT WOULD SEEM CINNCY IS THE BET

    probably true 
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    BOL,,,  THE BIG LINE SEEMS TO BE BEGGING U 2 TAKE X...SO IT WOULD SEEM CINNCY IS THE BET

    probably true 
     
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     After the knowledge I have gained over the years from cappers on this forum I think that this line is probably the perfect line for the books.
       I think with a healthy bench Cincy would have been favored by 5-7 pts with it rising as I am sure alot of ppl would have been on the home team and it would have rose to 7 maybe 7.5
       That being said I think that due to the injury to one of Xaviers most vital contributor that could and should add 3 to 4 pts to the line as the line would moved to 8-10.5. I think that by looking at performance and this year and the strengths and weakeness of both teams Cincy should win by 10-11.
       Given that today is a small day for high profile teams that the public bets on, it was easy for the books to open this up at 9. It would create just the right amount of "equal action for the house". 9 is just that one number that you cant go wrong simply because it will be either 10 or better or a nip and tuck game where you get alot of second half action.
         I personally think that if Cincy performs as they should they should win this contest by 10 -13 pts. At the end of the day it will be a test of can xavier's two best players carry the team vs 10. IMO the smart play probably would be a 65-35 play of taking xavier for the first half and if its between 4.5 - 5  and taking cincy second half. Because of a rivalry game and because Xavier really needs this victory they will have enough to stay within in range for the first 20 mins and get overwhelmed at the end.
        That being said if Cincy cant get out large and sustain some acceptable freethrow shooting Xavier can back door this spread. At the same token if either holloway and Mclean, or Frease have a bad night or foul trouble it will turn in to a route.
       Although as a better you cant truly follow trends from year's past it is an interesting tidbit that every other year this game is a 9 to 10 pts margin of victory for the home team. Might not mean much but it is something to take into account with other factors.
        That being said I think CINCY -9 is a solid pick
        
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     After the knowledge I have gained over the years from cappers on this forum I think that this line is probably the perfect line for the books.
       I think with a healthy bench Cincy would have been favored by 5-7 pts with it rising as I am sure alot of ppl would have been on the home team and it would have rose to 7 maybe 7.5
       That being said I think that due to the injury to one of Xaviers most vital contributor that could and should add 3 to 4 pts to the line as the line would moved to 8-10.5. I think that by looking at performance and this year and the strengths and weakeness of both teams Cincy should win by 10-11.
       Given that today is a small day for high profile teams that the public bets on, it was easy for the books to open this up at 9. It would create just the right amount of "equal action for the house". 9 is just that one number that you cant go wrong simply because it will be either 10 or better or a nip and tuck game where you get alot of second half action.
         I personally think that if Cincy performs as they should they should win this contest by 10 -13 pts. At the end of the day it will be a test of can xavier's two best players carry the team vs 10. IMO the smart play probably would be a 65-35 play of taking xavier for the first half and if its between 4.5 - 5  and taking cincy second half. Because of a rivalry game and because Xavier really needs this victory they will have enough to stay within in range for the first 20 mins and get overwhelmed at the end.
        That being said if Cincy cant get out large and sustain some acceptable freethrow shooting Xavier can back door this spread. At the same token if either holloway and Mclean, or Frease have a bad night or foul trouble it will turn in to a route.
       Although as a better you cant truly follow trends from year's past it is an interesting tidbit that every other year this game is a 9 to 10 pts margin of victory for the home team. Might not mean much but it is something to take into account with other factors.
        That being said I think CINCY -9 is a solid pick
        
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanks128:

    LETS HIT THIS GAME SO YOU CAN BUY UR GF A NICE ASS BDAY PRESENT!!!!! HAHA


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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 1:00 AM ET #16

    Nice call on Cincy bub
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2011 - 2:25 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw:



    uhoh I suspect you know me

    bluebikinis' bday?

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