Bird might not be able to get his shot off today.....thats why Morrison is riding pine.
What a ridiculous statement. You are either immature or ignorant. So there were no athletic guys that covered Bird, huh? I don't know why people think that humans have evolved into these super athletic specimens within two decades. Sorry, they haven't! I will repeat. It's fundamentals that are lacking in todays game. Larry Bird would be a perennial MVP and dominate the game even more so today with all his skills (that's coming from a guy who grew up hating Larry Bird).
Morrison is not "riding pine", he was injured, and won't be especially now that they have a coach that has some concept of basketball. He might have shot poorly but you try and play with a bunch of selfish players, and a inept coach, as a rookie. The only thing that will stop him is health. He's a play maker and the league needs more players like him. You'll see kiddo.
Bird might not be able to get his shot off today.....thats why Morrison is riding pine.
What a ridiculous statement. You are either immature or ignorant. So there were no athletic guys that covered Bird, huh? I don't know why people think that humans have evolved into these super athletic specimens within two decades. Sorry, they haven't! I will repeat. It's fundamentals that are lacking in todays game. Larry Bird would be a perennial MVP and dominate the game even more so today with all his skills (that's coming from a guy who grew up hating Larry Bird).
Morrison is not "riding pine", he was injured, and won't be especially now that they have a coach that has some concept of basketball. He might have shot poorly but you try and play with a bunch of selfish players, and a inept coach, as a rookie. The only thing that will stop him is health. He's a play maker and the league needs more players like him. You'll see kiddo.
What a ridiculous statement. You are either immature or ignorant. So there were no athletic guys that covered Bird, huh? I don't know why people think that humans have evolved into these super athletic specimens within two decades. Sorry, they haven't! I will repeat. It's fundamentals that are lacking in todays game. Larry Bird would be a perennial MVP and dominate the game even more so today with all his skills (that's coming from a guy who grew up hating Larry Bird).
Morrison is not "riding pine", he was injured, and won't be especially now that they have a coach that has some concept of basketball. He might have shot poorly but you try and play with a bunch of selfish players, and a inept coach, as a rookie. The only thing that will stop him is health. He's a play maker and the league needs more players like him. You'll see kiddo.
As a matter of fact, there were virtually no ATHLETIC players in the game back then. Vinny Johnson was playing the 2 and he was a fat/stocky dude that could NOT get his shot off nowadays.
Larry would just sit the ball on top of his head......then cast 3's. Today, that slow MF would get locked UP!!! Notice how fast he disappeared from the NBA when Jordan finally made it to the top.
What a ridiculous statement. You are either immature or ignorant. So there were no athletic guys that covered Bird, huh? I don't know why people think that humans have evolved into these super athletic specimens within two decades. Sorry, they haven't! I will repeat. It's fundamentals that are lacking in todays game. Larry Bird would be a perennial MVP and dominate the game even more so today with all his skills (that's coming from a guy who grew up hating Larry Bird).
Morrison is not "riding pine", he was injured, and won't be especially now that they have a coach that has some concept of basketball. He might have shot poorly but you try and play with a bunch of selfish players, and a inept coach, as a rookie. The only thing that will stop him is health. He's a play maker and the league needs more players like him. You'll see kiddo.
As a matter of fact, there were virtually no ATHLETIC players in the game back then. Vinny Johnson was playing the 2 and he was a fat/stocky dude that could NOT get his shot off nowadays.
Larry would just sit the ball on top of his head......then cast 3's. Today, that slow MF would get locked UP!!! Notice how fast he disappeared from the NBA when Jordan finally made it to the top.
Notice how fast he disappeared from the NBA when Jordan finally made it to the top.
On the contrary, notice how Jordan couln't win a championship until after Bird and Magic retired. I still remember Jordan scoring 60+ points in a playoff game against the Celtics AND STILL LOSING!!
Bird and Magic smoked Jordan because they made their team better. Jordan was a better player, but couldn't help the people around him.
Notice how fast he disappeared from the NBA when Jordan finally made it to the top.
On the contrary, notice how Jordan couln't win a championship until after Bird and Magic retired. I still remember Jordan scoring 60+ points in a playoff game against the Celtics AND STILL LOSING!!
Bird and Magic smoked Jordan because they made their team better. Jordan was a better player, but couldn't help the people around him.
On the contrary, notice how Jordan couln't win a championship until after Bird and Magic retired. I still remember Jordan scoring 60+ points in a playoff game against the Celtics AND STILL LOSING!!
Bird and Magic smoked Jordan because they made their team better. Jordan was a better player, but couldn't help the people around him.
Your referring to Bird/Magic in their prime versus a young Jordan....the one that was NOT getting the superstar calls.
Bird spent his time guarding the Cliff Levingston's, the Bobby Jones', the Larry Krystowiak's........not Michael.
On the contrary, notice how Jordan couln't win a championship until after Bird and Magic retired. I still remember Jordan scoring 60+ points in a playoff game against the Celtics AND STILL LOSING!!
Bird and Magic smoked Jordan because they made their team better. Jordan was a better player, but couldn't help the people around him.
Your referring to Bird/Magic in their prime versus a young Jordan....the one that was NOT getting the superstar calls.
Bird spent his time guarding the Cliff Levingston's, the Bobby Jones', the Larry Krystowiak's........not Michael.
Lets face it. Some of America's great white athlete's are getting envolved in such things as the summer and winter X-games or trying to make there way into Mixed Martial Arts. Just my two cents.
Lets face it. Some of America's great white athlete's are getting envolved in such things as the summer and winter X-games or trying to make there way into Mixed Martial Arts. Just my two cents.
Lets face it. Some of America's great white athlete's are getting envolved in such things as the summer and winter X-games or trying to make there way into Mixed Martial Arts. Just my two cents.
Lets face it. Some of America's great white athlete's are getting envolved in such things as the summer and winter X-games or trying to make there way into Mixed Martial Arts. Just my two cents.
On the contrary, notice how Jordan couln't win a championship until after Bird and Magic retired. I still remember Jordan scoring 60+ points in a playoff game against the Celtics AND STILL LOSING!!
Bird and Magic smoked Jordan because they made their team better. Jordan was a better player, but couldn't help the people around him.
Dude are you smoking crack? jordan won his first title against the magic johnson lakers in 1991 then he won in 1992 and 1993 johnson retired in at the end of 1991 and bird retired in 1992 so if he won a title in 1991 and magic played against him and bird retired in 1992 that means jordan won when they were around dumb ass
On the contrary, notice how Jordan couln't win a championship until after Bird and Magic retired. I still remember Jordan scoring 60+ points in a playoff game against the Celtics AND STILL LOSING!!
Bird and Magic smoked Jordan because they made their team better. Jordan was a better player, but couldn't help the people around him.
Dude are you smoking crack? jordan won his first title against the magic johnson lakers in 1991 then he won in 1992 and 1993 johnson retired in at the end of 1991 and bird retired in 1992 so if he won a title in 1991 and magic played against him and bird retired in 1992 that means jordan won when they were around dumb ass
As a matter of fact, there were virtually no ATHLETIC players in the game back then. Vinny Johnson was playing the 2 and he was a fat/stocky dude that could NOT get his shot off nowadays.
Larry would just sit the ball on top of his head......then cast 3's. Today, that slow MF would get locked UP!!! Notice how fast he disappeared from the NBA when Jordan finally made it to the top.
And the same goes for that stiff Magic too......
Really? So you are saying that Dr. J, Dominique Wilkins, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, Clyde Drexler (to name a few) are not athletic? Kid, you are wrong! The fact is Larry would dominate the game today just like he did back then <PERIOD>
As a matter of fact, there were virtually no ATHLETIC players in the game back then. Vinny Johnson was playing the 2 and he was a fat/stocky dude that could NOT get his shot off nowadays.
Larry would just sit the ball on top of his head......then cast 3's. Today, that slow MF would get locked UP!!! Notice how fast he disappeared from the NBA when Jordan finally made it to the top.
And the same goes for that stiff Magic too......
Really? So you are saying that Dr. J, Dominique Wilkins, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, Clyde Drexler (to name a few) are not athletic? Kid, you are wrong! The fact is Larry would dominate the game today just like he did back then <PERIOD>
Really? So you are saying that Dr. J, Dominique Wilkins, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, Clyde Drexler (to name a few) are not athletic? Kid, you are wrong! The fact is Larry would dominate the game today just like he did back then
Pipedream,
you are correct that those players were athletic and did well against the less athletic competition of their time... But now there are players who don't even start that can jump out of the gym and have verticles as good or better and they are faster and stronger...
So your bringing up these guys proves the point how based on athleticism alone, these guys would not have been stars in the current era...
You also bring up the factor of size and the players in the game are bigger and more athletic, especially forwards...
Hate to break it to you, "Kid, you are wrong" and proved yourself wrong... the players you put on your list would not the superstars where they are because of how the game has change...
In today's game Larry would be solid..... as a role player... he would start with his skills and competitiveness...
Really? So you are saying that Dr. J, Dominique Wilkins, James Worthy, Michael Cooper, Clyde Drexler (to name a few) are not athletic? Kid, you are wrong! The fact is Larry would dominate the game today just like he did back then
Pipedream,
you are correct that those players were athletic and did well against the less athletic competition of their time... But now there are players who don't even start that can jump out of the gym and have verticles as good or better and they are faster and stronger...
So your bringing up these guys proves the point how based on athleticism alone, these guys would not have been stars in the current era...
You also bring up the factor of size and the players in the game are bigger and more athletic, especially forwards...
Hate to break it to you, "Kid, you are wrong" and proved yourself wrong... the players you put on your list would not the superstars where they are because of how the game has change...
In today's game Larry would be solid..... as a role player... he would start with his skills and competitiveness...
Great topic, and after reading all the posts, it seems to be very similar to running backs, wide recievers, and defensive backs in football. Are there any white players that would warrant 1st round selection at any of these positions?
Great topic, and after reading all the posts, it seems to be very similar to running backs, wide recievers, and defensive backs in football. Are there any white players that would warrant 1st round selection at any of these positions?
White football players do not fit the profile for starting WR, CB or RB. These postions are for blacks only. Quick question....how many starting black QB's in the NFL? How many starting white WR's? How many white CB or RB period (starting or back-up)? I rest my case.
White football players do not fit the profile for starting WR, CB or RB. These postions are for blacks only. Quick question....how many starting black QB's in the NFL? How many starting white WR's? How many white CB or RB period (starting or back-up)? I rest my case.
White football players do not fit the profile for starting WR, CB or RB. These postions are for blacks only. Quick question....how many starting black QB's in the NFL? How many starting white WR's? How many white CB or RB period (starting or back-up)? I rest my case.
White football players do not fit the profile for starting WR, CB or RB. These postions are for blacks only. Quick question....how many starting black QB's in the NFL? How many starting white WR's? How many white CB or RB period (starting or back-up)? I rest my case.
one thing you can't tell me is the players today are SMARTER then those guys like Bird, Magic, Kareem, etc....your stupidity doesn't see that clear fact, put your stupid math crap above that makes -0- sense in some other thread...where does Pau Gasol, who sucks FYI...come into your dumb point??...
like i said... take a math class... seriously... just for your own sake of self-improvement and contributing something...
set theory: i will make it as simple as possible for you...
there are 5 players in group A (A1 - A5), and 5 players in group B (B1-B5)...
groups A and B represent the top 5 professional pie bakers in 2 different eras (A is today, B is 20 years ago)... this is how many pies they bake per minute...
A1 = 30, A2 = 30, A3 = 30, A4 = 10, A5 = 10
B1 = 25, B2 = 25, B3 = 20, B4 = 15, B5 = 15
look at B3 (let's call him, for lack of a better name, Lawrence Byrd)... in his era, he was in the top 3 of his group...
now, is it correct to claim that if he was top 3 in his group in his era, that he would still be in the top 3 today?
one thing you can't tell me is the players today are SMARTER then those guys like Bird, Magic, Kareem, etc....your stupidity doesn't see that clear fact, put your stupid math crap above that makes -0- sense in some other thread...where does Pau Gasol, who sucks FYI...come into your dumb point??...
like i said... take a math class... seriously... just for your own sake of self-improvement and contributing something...
set theory: i will make it as simple as possible for you...
there are 5 players in group A (A1 - A5), and 5 players in group B (B1-B5)...
groups A and B represent the top 5 professional pie bakers in 2 different eras (A is today, B is 20 years ago)... this is how many pies they bake per minute...
A1 = 30, A2 = 30, A3 = 30, A4 = 10, A5 = 10
B1 = 25, B2 = 25, B3 = 20, B4 = 15, B5 = 15
look at B3 (let's call him, for lack of a better name, Lawrence Byrd)... in his era, he was in the top 3 of his group...
now, is it correct to claim that if he was top 3 in his group in his era, that he would still be in the top 3 today?
like i said... take a math class... seriously... just for your own sake of self-improvement and contributing something...
set theory: i will make it as simple as possible for you...
there are 5 players in group A (A1 - A5), and 5 players in group B (B1-B5)...
groups A and B represent the top 5 professional pie bakers in 2 different eras (A is today, B is 20 years ago)... this is how many pies they bake per minute...
A1 = 30, A2 = 30, A3 = 30, A4 = 10, A5 = 10
B1 = 25, B2 = 25, B3 = 20, B4 = 15, B5 = 15
look at B3 (let's call him, for lack of a better name, Lawrence Byrd)... in his era, he was in the top 3 of his group...
now, is it correct to claim that if he was top 3 in his group in his era, that he would still be in the top 3 today?
you can do it...
what are you a physical talent evaluater?? who the hell are you to give an end all theory about the physical evolution of man?? steroids are the only thing in 20 years that have advanced the human body in sports, your math equations are still just based on your personal opinions, there is no FACTS that a player 20 years ago falls in your group B...
and this is just a pointless argument anyways, we do not have a 27 year old larry bird right now playing in the NBA to end our disagreement, he's old, retired and currently on a golf course in naples.
don't be addressing me in these forums, I remember when you first started going on the pick-n-roll a few months back, then every day I just started avoiding that forum because the whole thing was your posts arguing with people back and forth constantly....all you do is try to get confrontational, go find a sports debate website I don't have the time or energy to go back and forth with you and your smartass posts....go back to your math class.
like i said... take a math class... seriously... just for your own sake of self-improvement and contributing something...
set theory: i will make it as simple as possible for you...
there are 5 players in group A (A1 - A5), and 5 players in group B (B1-B5)...
groups A and B represent the top 5 professional pie bakers in 2 different eras (A is today, B is 20 years ago)... this is how many pies they bake per minute...
A1 = 30, A2 = 30, A3 = 30, A4 = 10, A5 = 10
B1 = 25, B2 = 25, B3 = 20, B4 = 15, B5 = 15
look at B3 (let's call him, for lack of a better name, Lawrence Byrd)... in his era, he was in the top 3 of his group...
now, is it correct to claim that if he was top 3 in his group in his era, that he would still be in the top 3 today?
you can do it...
what are you a physical talent evaluater?? who the hell are you to give an end all theory about the physical evolution of man?? steroids are the only thing in 20 years that have advanced the human body in sports, your math equations are still just based on your personal opinions, there is no FACTS that a player 20 years ago falls in your group B...
and this is just a pointless argument anyways, we do not have a 27 year old larry bird right now playing in the NBA to end our disagreement, he's old, retired and currently on a golf course in naples.
don't be addressing me in these forums, I remember when you first started going on the pick-n-roll a few months back, then every day I just started avoiding that forum because the whole thing was your posts arguing with people back and forth constantly....all you do is try to get confrontational, go find a sports debate website I don't have the time or energy to go back and forth with you and your smartass posts....go back to your math class.
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