Billy Walters: 'Sports betting requires more skill than poker'

Billy Walters, a man considered by many to be the greatest sports bettor ever, believes he is an underdog to ever see wide-spread legalization of the industry that has helped him make hundreds of millions of dollars.

โ€œWho knows, one of these days, maybe there will be somebody up there that will have the guts to do the right thing,โ€ the 65-year-old Walters told Covers.com in an exclusive phone interview in early February. โ€œBut Iโ€™m not holding my breath waiting for it.โ€

In the race for legalization, sports betting is several lengths behind online poker, which has built its case on being a game of skill, instead of chance. Walters is adamant the same case can be made for sports betting. Just like in poker, successful sports bettors must analyze information and use risk management to turn a profit. 

โ€œI used to be a professional poker player,โ€ Walters said, โ€œand, theyโ€™re right, if youโ€™re a good poker player, itโ€™s a game of skill. Well, betting sports is much more of a game of skill than poker. Iโ€™m living proof that betting sports is a game of skill. Iโ€™ve won 37 years in a row. If thatโ€™s not a skill, then I donโ€™t know what is.โ€

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Walters believes online poker will be approved, and that it could lead to legalization of sports betting. But thereโ€™s still plenty to overcome, if Americans are ever going to be allowed to place a sports wager as easily as they can bet on a horse race.

โ€œTheyโ€™ve legalized lotteries, and you can walk into an off-track betting parlor and bet on any horse race in the country,โ€ said Walters. โ€œAnd why can they do that? Because of the horse lobby; the people who control the horse lobby have a lot of juice; so does the poker lobby, but there is no such thing as a sports betting lobby. I think theyโ€™ll get poker approved, and hopefully sports betting will be next. People are doing it, and theyโ€™re not going to stop. It just doesnโ€™t make sense.โ€

The NFL is another huge obstacle in the fight for legalization. The leagueโ€™s objection is hypocritical, says Walters, because e of how much interest gambling generates for the NFL.

โ€œDoes anyone believe that the NFL is naรฏve enough not to know that if it werenโ€™t for people betting on sports and playing fantasy football that they wouldnโ€™t have 20 percent of the people that are watching now?โ€ Walters pointed out. โ€œIf youโ€™re running the NFL and admit what you already know, then why wouldnโ€™t you want to legalize it? That way, people involved in it are licensed and have to undergo background checks, and itโ€™s regulated, taxed and up front. Thatโ€™s the most positive outcome for everyone involved.โ€

Sports betting opponents often warn of an increase in games being fixed, like the corrupt NBA referee, Tim Donaghy, and the point-shaving scandal in the mid-90s at Arizona State. Walters witnessed both, but says those types of nefarious activity have been rare throughout his more than three decades in the industry. He chuckles at notions that todayโ€™s professional athletes, who make millions of dollars, would risk it to throw a game that might earn them $50,000.

โ€œNow, pro soccer over in Europe โ€ฆ well, letโ€™s just put it this way โ€ฆ itโ€™s not nearly, nearly regulated as say the NFL,โ€ said Walters. โ€œI got to tell you, the NFL, NBA, college basketball and college football are about as square as it gets.

โ€œFrom a bookmakerโ€™s perspective and a bettorโ€™s perspective, the integrity of the sports betting market is something that we all have in common,โ€ he added. โ€œIf itโ€™s compromised, bookmakers are out of business and so am I. So Iโ€™m going to do my best to protect it.โ€

Sports betting ban more โ€˜ludicrous than prohibitionโ€™

Walters is passionate about what legalized sports betting could do for the United States.

The most intense his soft, but grizzled voice got during the interview was after he rattled off all the benefits of legalization, including tax revenue, creation of jobs and consumer protection.

โ€œThis is more ludicrous than prohibition,โ€ Walters emphasized. โ€œProhibition lasted for what 13 years, before they finally realized that this is insanity. People arenโ€™t going to quit drinking alcohol. And people arenโ€™t going to quit betting on sports. The powers-that-be know that; itโ€™s no secret.โ€

Itโ€™s not a shock that the gameโ€™s best player supports legalization and regulation. But the level of Waltersโ€™ frustration with the system stood out in the interview. He sounded like heโ€™s sick of the hassle that comes along with simply investing in a football game. And itโ€™s hard to blame him.

โ€œWeโ€™re still operating under the same laws that were passed 50 years ago when it comes to sports betting,โ€ he said. โ€œThere wasnโ€™t any Internet or cell phones then. But weโ€™re still operating under those arcane laws. Itโ€™s ridiculous and makes no sense at all.

โ€œIn the past 20 to 25 years,โ€ Walters concluded, โ€œI guarantee you that there are more laws being violated in the first two seconds that the New York Stock Exchange opens Monday morning than there will be in all of sports betting in the next thousand years.โ€

Hear the story behind the story when David Payne Purdum joins Gill Alexander's Betting Dork podcast on Pregame.com.

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Posted by Big35Hurt
1 year ago

There's way too much money made by illegal bookmakers in this country for this thing of ours to ever become legalized nationwide. Those people have more juice than people want to admit to themselves. These are the people that run our country. Don't fool yourselves. It's also the reason that you'll NEVER see marijuana legalized. Exact same reason.....
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Posted by golfwacko
1 year ago

bw would love lagal gambling.millions of more squares driving the lines. more outs. if you worked in a hub in vegas you would know this guy is devastating. the greatest middler ever never know the fake or the desired side till its to late.
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Posted by jerjohns
1 year ago

LOL Wonderwomen. Kinda like when Prohibition ended and the Anheuser Busch's went underground to avoid paying taxes. That's obsurd! Actually, there are many gambling sites going on record stating they'd welcome legalizing on-line gambling because it would send profits through the roof. If I told you I'd make you an extra $5 mil next year but I get $1.5 mil back (taxes) do you really think you'd say no and go 'underground'?
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Posted by David_Payne
1 year ago

Smart post ... Legalization and regulation is a win-win for everyone involved except maybe local bookies, IMO. Appreciate you contributing to the discussion.
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Posted by Hirschfelder
1 year ago

David, re: fantasy sports. The NFL in particular know that there are very few bad consequences in fantasy. You are taking a player to do something. Tim Donaghy wouldn't call a foul because he had a player in his fantasy team. In gambling you are betting on something not to happen, taking a team to cover is the same as taking the other team not to cover. But the NFL is not stupid, they know who the people are that are watching a game that is 26-6 in the 4th. Take away gambling and watch the ratings collapse. Player status is for gambling, the leagues just don't admit it publicly
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Posted by David_Payne
1 year ago

Spot on again, Hirsch -- If the only argument the NFL has against legalization is an increased risk of game fixing, well, then we should have little trouble proving that wrong. Legalization would actually limit that because of the added regulation. Good luck this weekend -- DP
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Posted by Jaymaxx
1 year ago

Nice article. Always interesting in seeing what Billy has to say about sports gambling.
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Posted by keys2theroc
1 year ago

good read
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Posted by wonderwomen
1 year ago

its just like legalizing pot. If they do than everyone will grow there own so they do not have to pay taxes. Home break ins would increase dramatically. Government makes more money if its medical. If they tax sports betting income betters will go to a place where income can not be traced. I would never want to report my sports betting income.
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Posted by wonderwomen
1 year ago

there are thousands of undercover sportsbetting websites that pay no taxes. what would happen if they legalized it? You really think these sites are going to pay taxes when they havent been for the past 15 years. They will just make better websites that can not be traced. All cash. All the money would move to black market and tax paying websites will be hurting. This is just my opinion. If its aint broke dont fix it.
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Posted by stvnbck6
1 year ago

i spoken to bw about this many times, there is only one reason why bw would want this, that is to keep the FBI of his ass, he has to do a lot of cloak and dagger stuff to get his "coin" where it needs to go, this would give him an ability to move more freely financially speaking. and then and only then can he give the high hard one to the mafia. "Freedom baby is never having to say your sorry"
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Posted by tomnolan
1 year ago

here is the bottom line. just get it done all ready. i am sick and tired of flying to vegas every football weekend!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by cd2010
1 year ago

Great article, thanks for the advice Billy.
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Posted by netsmx
1 year ago

interesting interview David, i live in Mexico and this is paradise for sports bettors, ill love to make business with you....
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Posted by stats1
1 year ago

waste of an article!!! u really think billy wants gambling legal???
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Posted by David_Payne
1 year ago

Sorry I wasted your time, and yes I feel like BW was gambling legalized and regulated.
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Posted by David_Payne
1 year ago

@Hirschfelder: While trying to respond to your post about the NFL, I accidentally deleted it. My bad. I agree with your point, but don't understand why the NFL is fine with people betting individual player statistics (fantasy) but not the outcome of the game.
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Posted by rball747
1 year ago

The future best investments will be legal sports hedge funds in the usa it is just a matter of time now. Some of the best cappers here will become very wealthy in time working for the sports hedge funds to come. There are legal sport hedge funds in england now and more to come.
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Posted by Hirschfelder
1 year ago

And every single one of them has failed, most recently Centaur Galileo
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Posted by Snookslayer
1 year ago

Legalizing sports-betting is obviously the right thing to do, but how does it help small-time gamblers? There's no taxes now and small accounts don't really worry about not getting paid. I can see why big-time gamblers with serious money in their accounts would like the extra security, but how would legalization benefit the small-timers? If legalized, sports-betting sites would probably pay taxes, which I assume they'd pass-on to customers in the form of higher juice. Taxed winnings and higher juice -vs- more security. Is that the only benefit?
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Posted by Hirschfelder
1 year ago

False. Competition will drive prices to small vig, especially if exchanges are legal too. Not every book is like those myths in Vegas.
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Posted by the-profit
1 year ago

Master of the obvious. Maybe the biggest gambler should spearhead the Lobbying effort.
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Posted by David_Payne
1 year ago

I thought that too, but then began to think about if I would want to take on something like that when I'm 65 -- especially if I had the kind of coin BW has.
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Posted by houseman
1 year ago

Thanks for the interview Billy!!! Love to be a runner for you.
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Posted by lexxster00
1 year ago

I agree !! The US government can make a lot of money on texs if they legalized Sport betting!! Instead of trying to sue off shore sportsbook cuz they're not paying texs. When the US government knows Most of the player are US citizen!! People are not going to stop betting on sport just because we can't!
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Posted by houseman
1 year ago

"Thanks for the interview Billy!!! Love to be a runner for you."