Again, i think it will be another close, hard fought football game. Hopefully all the players on both sides will behave, pass their exams and be available for this game. It would be a shame to have any suspensions or other distractions that take away from this game.
I agree. I hope both teams will be at full strength like they were for the first game.
Again, i think it will be another close, hard fought football game. Hopefully all the players on both sides will behave, pass their exams and be available for this game. It would be a shame to have any suspensions or other distractions that take away from this game.
I agree. I hope both teams will be at full strength like they were for the first game.
First of all of course a team can out-play another and still lose the game. There are many examples of this virtually on a weekly basis.
A game I wagered on earlier this season comes vividly to mind - SanDiego St. @ Army. Army outplayed SDSU in pretty much everyway there is to outplay a team, yet they lost by 3 points.
To imply that just because a team won on the scoreboard that they were necessarily the better team is a pretty vast departure from reality.
Second, assuming arguendo that Alabama did outplay LSU in the first game (a pretty widely help belief across the country), the only reason for discussing it is NOT to celebrate or lament the result of the first game, but rather to give us insight into capping the next one.
I for one am not thrilled about the prospect of losing money on the national championship game. Thus, I will take into account all available data at my disposal including my opinion that LSU was outplayed in the first game.
Lastly, there is absolutely nothing for any Alabama or LSU fan to complain about. Both teams have attained their goals of reaching the BCS national championship game. The result of the first game, as it turned out, meant absolutely nothing. Had Alabama won the game instead of LSU, Alabama & LSU would still be playing for the national championship. So for anyone to be arguing over the shoulda, woulda and couldas of the first game is silly and unproductive. Discussion about this game should be focused on how people think the re-match will play out and, more importantly, why. That's what my posts concerning this game are about. At this point who won or lost the first game means absolutely nothing to me. It's completely irrelevant.
I hope you are saying this because you see that I am trying to make the exact same point... The only difference for me in all you are saying is the win loss factor of course. It cuts me deep that we lost that game, and I have been all about another shot for my Tide ever since they lost.
Aside from that I am not looking at the game as an "Alabama homer", and it is sad that because I have the opinion that Bama out played LSU in that game, no matter what stance I take, I am simply a homer, and my opinion is invalid. Which baffles me because others, like you for example say the same thin, and point out the reasons behind it, and never get bashed for it... I guess it's just the way I come across...
Finally, I stand by everything I have said about how I think that game went down. I look at the stats, drive charts, QB/RB/WR/TE play, and make determinations about how I think it will go down this next time around. Hope my thoughts help...
First of all of course a team can out-play another and still lose the game. There are many examples of this virtually on a weekly basis.
A game I wagered on earlier this season comes vividly to mind - SanDiego St. @ Army. Army outplayed SDSU in pretty much everyway there is to outplay a team, yet they lost by 3 points.
To imply that just because a team won on the scoreboard that they were necessarily the better team is a pretty vast departure from reality.
Second, assuming arguendo that Alabama did outplay LSU in the first game (a pretty widely help belief across the country), the only reason for discussing it is NOT to celebrate or lament the result of the first game, but rather to give us insight into capping the next one.
I for one am not thrilled about the prospect of losing money on the national championship game. Thus, I will take into account all available data at my disposal including my opinion that LSU was outplayed in the first game.
Lastly, there is absolutely nothing for any Alabama or LSU fan to complain about. Both teams have attained their goals of reaching the BCS national championship game. The result of the first game, as it turned out, meant absolutely nothing. Had Alabama won the game instead of LSU, Alabama & LSU would still be playing for the national championship. So for anyone to be arguing over the shoulda, woulda and couldas of the first game is silly and unproductive. Discussion about this game should be focused on how people think the re-match will play out and, more importantly, why. That's what my posts concerning this game are about. At this point who won or lost the first game means absolutely nothing to me. It's completely irrelevant.
I hope you are saying this because you see that I am trying to make the exact same point... The only difference for me in all you are saying is the win loss factor of course. It cuts me deep that we lost that game, and I have been all about another shot for my Tide ever since they lost.
Aside from that I am not looking at the game as an "Alabama homer", and it is sad that because I have the opinion that Bama out played LSU in that game, no matter what stance I take, I am simply a homer, and my opinion is invalid. Which baffles me because others, like you for example say the same thin, and point out the reasons behind it, and never get bashed for it... I guess it's just the way I come across...
Finally, I stand by everything I have said about how I think that game went down. I look at the stats, drive charts, QB/RB/WR/TE play, and make determinations about how I think it will go down this next time around. Hope my thoughts help...
Ok, I will bite... Yes, he had over 200 yards, but that isn't the point I am trying to make with that statement. Execution involves the entire offense. It boils down to the offensive line picking up the right block, in the right lane, and doing his job. It also has to do with the QB making the right reads, and the WR's making the right adjustments, and doing their jobs of either blocking, or getting open. It's the offense working together as a unit, and executing, and they didn't do that in the red zone. They are going to have to this time around if they want to win this game... We all know they are capable of driving down the field with balance, the question comes in in the red zone.
Ok, I will bite... Yes, he had over 200 yards, but that isn't the point I am trying to make with that statement. Execution involves the entire offense. It boils down to the offensive line picking up the right block, in the right lane, and doing his job. It also has to do with the QB making the right reads, and the WR's making the right adjustments, and doing their jobs of either blocking, or getting open. It's the offense working together as a unit, and executing, and they didn't do that in the red zone. They are going to have to this time around if they want to win this game... We all know they are capable of driving down the field with balance, the question comes in in the red zone.
I hope you are saying this because you see that I am trying to make the exact same point... The only difference for me in all you are saying is the win loss factor of course. It cuts me deep that we lost that game, and I have been all about another shot for my Tide ever since they lost.
Aside from that I am not looking at the game as an "Alabama homer", and it is sad that because I have the opinion that Bama out played LSU in that game, no matter what stance I take, I am simply a homer, and my opinion is invalid. Which baffles me because others, like you for example say the same thin, and point out the reasons behind it, and never get bashed for it... I guess it's just the way I come across...
Finally, I stand by everything I have said about how I think that game went down. I look at the stats, drive charts, QB/RB/WR/TE play, and make determinations about how I think it will go down this next time around. Hope my thoughts help...
It is not just you and I saying that Alabama out-played LSU, I think that was the general consensus across the nation after the game was over. We really don't have to look any further than the original post in this thread.
Let me play devil's advocate here and flip the question around. How many people in the media have you heard say that LSU out-played Alabama in that game? If there is one, I haven't heard him.
LOL!!! Yes, I am frequently accused of being a homer, although I will admit it is not as bad now as it was a few years back. Personally, I value the opinions of homers on their team above all else, because they know their team better than I do. If you want an honest opinion on Kansas State, ask KSUwins. He will tell it to you straight. If you want an honest opinion on Clemson, ask Boom. He will also give you his honest opinion. I try to do the same with Alabama.
I hope you are saying this because you see that I am trying to make the exact same point... The only difference for me in all you are saying is the win loss factor of course. It cuts me deep that we lost that game, and I have been all about another shot for my Tide ever since they lost.
Aside from that I am not looking at the game as an "Alabama homer", and it is sad that because I have the opinion that Bama out played LSU in that game, no matter what stance I take, I am simply a homer, and my opinion is invalid. Which baffles me because others, like you for example say the same thin, and point out the reasons behind it, and never get bashed for it... I guess it's just the way I come across...
Finally, I stand by everything I have said about how I think that game went down. I look at the stats, drive charts, QB/RB/WR/TE play, and make determinations about how I think it will go down this next time around. Hope my thoughts help...
It is not just you and I saying that Alabama out-played LSU, I think that was the general consensus across the nation after the game was over. We really don't have to look any further than the original post in this thread.
Let me play devil's advocate here and flip the question around. How many people in the media have you heard say that LSU out-played Alabama in that game? If there is one, I haven't heard him.
LOL!!! Yes, I am frequently accused of being a homer, although I will admit it is not as bad now as it was a few years back. Personally, I value the opinions of homers on their team above all else, because they know their team better than I do. If you want an honest opinion on Kansas State, ask KSUwins. He will tell it to you straight. If you want an honest opinion on Clemson, ask Boom. He will also give you his honest opinion. I try to do the same with Alabama.
It is not just you and I saying that Alabama out-played LSU, I think that was the general consensus across the nation after the game was over. We really don't have to look any further than the original post in this thread.
Let me play devil's advocate here and flip the question around. How many people in the media have you heard say that LSU out-played Alabama in that game? If there is one, I haven't heard him.
LOL!!! Yes, I am frequently accused of being a homer, although I will admit it is not as bad now as it was a few years back. Personally, I value the opinions of homers on their team above all else, because they know their team better than I do. If you want an honest opinion on Kansas State, ask KSUwins. He will tell it to you straight. If you want an honest opinion on Clemson, ask Boom. He will also give you his honest opinion. I try to do the same with Alabama.
I have always said the same thing... I look to the opinion of homers more so than any others, if they are capable of being objective. You can, for the most part determine who those are.
It is not just you and I saying that Alabama out-played LSU, I think that was the general consensus across the nation after the game was over. We really don't have to look any further than the original post in this thread.
Let me play devil's advocate here and flip the question around. How many people in the media have you heard say that LSU out-played Alabama in that game? If there is one, I haven't heard him.
LOL!!! Yes, I am frequently accused of being a homer, although I will admit it is not as bad now as it was a few years back. Personally, I value the opinions of homers on their team above all else, because they know their team better than I do. If you want an honest opinion on Kansas State, ask KSUwins. He will tell it to you straight. If you want an honest opinion on Clemson, ask Boom. He will also give you his honest opinion. I try to do the same with Alabama.
I have always said the same thing... I look to the opinion of homers more so than any others, if they are capable of being objective. You can, for the most part determine who those are.
There is no question it was a close and extremely hard-fought game. I don't think anyone can argue that point. For me the most salient point of the first game was not the 53-yard differential, it is that LSU's offense was completely one-dimensional. We saw the same result against Georgia who runs a very similar defense (albeit less talented) to Alabama's. That's why I have said repeatedly that JJ will have to make some plays in the passing game to keep Alabama's defense remotely honest.
Being one-dimensional will really be a problem if LSU gets behind in the game by a TD or more. If that were the case, then I think LSU will have almost no chance of recovering without some semblence of a forward passing game.
Alabama, on the other hand, was able to remain balanced offensively in the first game. They only punted twice the entire game. They had plenty of scoring opportunities, they just weren't able to cash them in.
All-in-all, in the first game I would give Alabama edges on both sides of the ball, and in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Obviously special teams wasn't even close and was the difference in the game.
Based on what I saw in the first game (and I have watched it probably 6 or 7 times now), assuming LSU is not able to score any non-offensive TDs, I think 2 TDs will be enough to win the game. The problem is that I don't think Alabama will score 2 "offensive" TDs. Again, assuming no non-defensive TDs, I think we'll see a final score of something along the lines of 16-10, 13-6 . . . something really ugly like that.
I maintain that UNDER is the best play in the game.
Freak, I would like to get some real discussion going. I think we both know where the other stands but I think we might be able to enlighten each other just a bit.
First off you say, "Alabama only punted twice the entire game", like they should wear that as a badge of honor. I will tell you honestly that if Bama punts the ball twice more in the game they probably win, so I'm not sure that's a good thing.
In what faze of the game would you say Alabama was dominate? I know by watching the game you can gather a lot of information but the stats contradict this statement.
You also keep saying that LSU was one dimensional. I understand your point but I could also say the same about Bama. Rounding but LSU had 100pass/150rush, Bama had 200pass/100rush. Bama also threw the ball twice as much . I think thats why you keep saying this, bc LSU abandoned the pass all together. I could be mistaken but I think Trent was shutdown in the 2nd making Bama pretty much 1 dimensional to the pass. How many yards did he have in the 2nd half rushing?
On iPhone so I'm sure it's a little choppy. I'm want LSU to win bad, bc I'm also praying that I make the right wager on this game.
There is no question it was a close and extremely hard-fought game. I don't think anyone can argue that point. For me the most salient point of the first game was not the 53-yard differential, it is that LSU's offense was completely one-dimensional. We saw the same result against Georgia who runs a very similar defense (albeit less talented) to Alabama's. That's why I have said repeatedly that JJ will have to make some plays in the passing game to keep Alabama's defense remotely honest.
Being one-dimensional will really be a problem if LSU gets behind in the game by a TD or more. If that were the case, then I think LSU will have almost no chance of recovering without some semblence of a forward passing game.
Alabama, on the other hand, was able to remain balanced offensively in the first game. They only punted twice the entire game. They had plenty of scoring opportunities, they just weren't able to cash them in.
All-in-all, in the first game I would give Alabama edges on both sides of the ball, and in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Obviously special teams wasn't even close and was the difference in the game.
Based on what I saw in the first game (and I have watched it probably 6 or 7 times now), assuming LSU is not able to score any non-offensive TDs, I think 2 TDs will be enough to win the game. The problem is that I don't think Alabama will score 2 "offensive" TDs. Again, assuming no non-defensive TDs, I think we'll see a final score of something along the lines of 16-10, 13-6 . . . something really ugly like that.
I maintain that UNDER is the best play in the game.
Freak, I would like to get some real discussion going. I think we both know where the other stands but I think we might be able to enlighten each other just a bit.
First off you say, "Alabama only punted twice the entire game", like they should wear that as a badge of honor. I will tell you honestly that if Bama punts the ball twice more in the game they probably win, so I'm not sure that's a good thing.
In what faze of the game would you say Alabama was dominate? I know by watching the game you can gather a lot of information but the stats contradict this statement.
You also keep saying that LSU was one dimensional. I understand your point but I could also say the same about Bama. Rounding but LSU had 100pass/150rush, Bama had 200pass/100rush. Bama also threw the ball twice as much . I think thats why you keep saying this, bc LSU abandoned the pass all together. I could be mistaken but I think Trent was shutdown in the 2nd making Bama pretty much 1 dimensional to the pass. How many yards did he have in the 2nd half rushing?
On iPhone so I'm sure it's a little choppy. I'm want LSU to win bad, bc I'm also praying that I make the right wager on this game.
Thinking who better manages the month break better is going to win. If in both peak condition, think LSU is the more athletic team and matches up well but a month off scares me.
Worried that the LSU players might get a little too cocky and not be 100%
Thinking who better manages the month break better is going to win. If in both peak condition, think LSU is the more athletic team and matches up well but a month off scares me.
Worried that the LSU players might get a little too cocky and not be 100%
As far as the first game......... LSU won it. Don't care who looked good. They made it happen. And it was not luck, Reid beat him to the ball. That's what players do. LSU is fast and athletic. Saban nutted up with the FG calls. Les has nutted up plenty of times. That's college ball.
As far as the first game......... LSU won it. Don't care who looked good. They made it happen. And it was not luck, Reid beat him to the ball. That's what players do. LSU is fast and athletic. Saban nutted up with the FG calls. Les has nutted up plenty of times. That's college ball.
Do disagree with this "one dimensional" angle tho. LSU has an extremely dangerous passing attack. Not talking dinks/dunks..... talking a real quick long threat in Ruben.... and if Bama gets loose on that, it's gonna be a TD real quick because Ruben is a serious threat 24/7.
Do disagree with this "one dimensional" angle tho. LSU has an extremely dangerous passing attack. Not talking dinks/dunks..... talking a real quick long threat in Ruben.... and if Bama gets loose on that, it's gonna be a TD real quick because Ruben is a serious threat 24/7.
If the ball is in the air.......... Ruben's coming down with it. Bama knows it, LSU knows it, we all know it. That's why Bama had 2-3 on him in the first game.
From an LSU standpoint...... worried about Trent......... he's a beast and it takes 1.5++ to get him down. Fully expect him to break loose next game, especially on turf. If Trent does NOT get loose, LSU runs away with it but I expect Trent to get loose.
If the ball is in the air.......... Ruben's coming down with it. Bama knows it, LSU knows it, we all know it. That's why Bama had 2-3 on him in the first game.
From an LSU standpoint...... worried about Trent......... he's a beast and it takes 1.5++ to get him down. Fully expect him to break loose next game, especially on turf. If Trent does NOT get loose, LSU runs away with it but I expect Trent to get loose.
Thought Bama had the better defense up until couple weeks ago. LSU not the best at "containment"....... but they can create pressure and create problems real quick. Fully expect 2++++ Bama turnovers...... which I'm washing with Trent's breaking loose.
Thought Bama had the better defense up until couple weeks ago. LSU not the best at "containment"....... but they can create pressure and create problems real quick. Fully expect 2++++ Bama turnovers...... which I'm washing with Trent's breaking loose.
All I hear is if Alabama made their field goals, if they could actually finish a drive, if the refs didn't blow a call, if you just look at the stats. One hypothetical question since Alabama fans love if, look at the box score, drive charts, and whatever you think is relevant to the game, now flip the teams at the top of the letterhead. Would you still be in here claiming that though LSU lost they outplayed Bama? If you can't do that then you aren't objective, your just another roll- tide fan. And who the hell watches the LSU Bama game 6 or 7 times, dude get out of the house go to a movie, or exercise, or drink a beer with friends or anything instead of sitting down in front of the TV and watching that game over and over the result ain't changing.
All I hear is if Alabama made their field goals, if they could actually finish a drive, if the refs didn't blow a call, if you just look at the stats. One hypothetical question since Alabama fans love if, look at the box score, drive charts, and whatever you think is relevant to the game, now flip the teams at the top of the letterhead. Would you still be in here claiming that though LSU lost they outplayed Bama? If you can't do that then you aren't objective, your just another roll- tide fan. And who the hell watches the LSU Bama game 6 or 7 times, dude get out of the house go to a movie, or exercise, or drink a beer with friends or anything instead of sitting down in front of the TV and watching that game over and over the result ain't changing.
All I hear is if Alabama made their field goals, if they could actually finish a drive, if the refs didn't blow a call, if you just look at the stats. One hypothetical question since Alabama fans love if, look at the box score, drive charts, and whatever you think is relevant to the game, now flip the teams at the top of the letterhead. Would you still be in here claiming that though LSU lost they outplayed Bama? If you can't do that then you aren't objective, your just another roll- tide fan. And who the hell watches the LSU Bama game 6 or 7 times, dude get out of the house go to a movie, or exercise, or drink a beer with friends or anything instead of sitting down in front of the TV and watching that game over and over the result ain't changing.
Jimmy made it clear that he said the same thing about another team this season... I have seen several games where a team got completely dominated throughout the game, and still lost. In that case as well, the better team didn't win... So the answer to your dumb ass question is yes, if it went the other way then I am sure that we would be saying that we got whipped by LSU, but we didn't. There is a reason that LSU is only favored by 1 point in this game... I know it is hard for you but think about it.
All I hear is if Alabama made their field goals, if they could actually finish a drive, if the refs didn't blow a call, if you just look at the stats. One hypothetical question since Alabama fans love if, look at the box score, drive charts, and whatever you think is relevant to the game, now flip the teams at the top of the letterhead. Would you still be in here claiming that though LSU lost they outplayed Bama? If you can't do that then you aren't objective, your just another roll- tide fan. And who the hell watches the LSU Bama game 6 or 7 times, dude get out of the house go to a movie, or exercise, or drink a beer with friends or anything instead of sitting down in front of the TV and watching that game over and over the result ain't changing.
Jimmy made it clear that he said the same thing about another team this season... I have seen several games where a team got completely dominated throughout the game, and still lost. In that case as well, the better team didn't win... So the answer to your dumb ass question is yes, if it went the other way then I am sure that we would be saying that we got whipped by LSU, but we didn't. There is a reason that LSU is only favored by 1 point in this game... I know it is hard for you but think about it.
I HIGHLY doubt LSU successfully completes a 50 yard drive in this game. If Bama doesn't flip the field for the Tigers via turnover/let Mathieu become a factor in the return game, there's about a 60% chance LSU gets shut out. That's my opinion, at least.
I HIGHLY doubt LSU successfully completes a 50 yard drive in this game. If Bama doesn't flip the field for the Tigers via turnover/let Mathieu become a factor in the return game, there's about a 60% chance LSU gets shut out. That's my opinion, at least.
Tippy I'm not talking about random teams, as an Alabama fan if the box scores were switched would you say LSU was the better team even though they lost. We can argue all day long about stats and everything in between I won't ever change my opinion that the team that wins on the scoreboard is the better team just like I can't change yours that it's not. Why do you keep bringing up the line? Oddsmakers don't play the game players do, when the Giants beat the Patriots as 2 td dogs in the Superbowl were the Pats still the better team because the oddsmakers made them one?
Tippy I'm not talking about random teams, as an Alabama fan if the box scores were switched would you say LSU was the better team even though they lost. We can argue all day long about stats and everything in between I won't ever change my opinion that the team that wins on the scoreboard is the better team just like I can't change yours that it's not. Why do you keep bringing up the line? Oddsmakers don't play the game players do, when the Giants beat the Patriots as 2 td dogs in the Superbowl were the Pats still the better team because the oddsmakers made them one?
I HIGHLY doubt LSU successfully completes a 50 yard drive in this game. If Bama doesn't flip the field for the Tigers via turnover/let Mathieu become a factor in the return game, there's about a 60% chance LSU gets shut out. That's my opinion, at least.
You might want to get on the LSU TT under 20 or so when it comes out
I HIGHLY doubt LSU successfully completes a 50 yard drive in this game. If Bama doesn't flip the field for the Tigers via turnover/let Mathieu become a factor in the return game, there's about a 60% chance LSU gets shut out. That's my opinion, at least.
You might want to get on the LSU TT under 20 or so when it comes out
Tippy I'm not talking about random teams, as an Alabama fan if the box scores were switched would you say LSU was the better team even though they lost. We can argue all day long about stats and everything in between I won't ever change my opinion that the team that wins on the scoreboard is the better team just like I can't change yours that it's not. Why do you keep bringing up the line? Oddsmakers don't play the game players do, when the Giants beat the Patriots as 2 td dogs in the Superbowl were the Pats still the better team because the oddsmakers made them one?
Of course I would... This has nothing to do with me being an Alabama fan is the point I am trying to make. If a team plays better they are the better team, win or lose. And you can say that you think that just because a team has a better score at the end of the game all you want, you are the minority, and you are the idiot.
Tippy I'm not talking about random teams, as an Alabama fan if the box scores were switched would you say LSU was the better team even though they lost. We can argue all day long about stats and everything in between I won't ever change my opinion that the team that wins on the scoreboard is the better team just like I can't change yours that it's not. Why do you keep bringing up the line? Oddsmakers don't play the game players do, when the Giants beat the Patriots as 2 td dogs in the Superbowl were the Pats still the better team because the oddsmakers made them one?
Of course I would... This has nothing to do with me being an Alabama fan is the point I am trying to make. If a team plays better they are the better team, win or lose. And you can say that you think that just because a team has a better score at the end of the game all you want, you are the minority, and you are the idiot.
Tippy are really that stupid? Do you think college or pro coaches would rather have a better score at the end of the game, or the better box score. Are they all idiots too and are they the minority because they understand that in the end wins and losses is how they are judged by fans, the athletic department, or the owners in the pros. Have you ever played a sport? Try and tell a coach after a loss "Coach it's alright that we lost because we had a better stat line." Then see his reaction. I would have loved to see you as a player with Herm Edwards as your coach. " Coach we may have lost but we had the better box score." -tippy "Hellooo Tippy you play to win the game!!!!" I'm sure he's an idiot too no one knows as much about football as the tipster.
Tippy are really that stupid? Do you think college or pro coaches would rather have a better score at the end of the game, or the better box score. Are they all idiots too and are they the minority because they understand that in the end wins and losses is how they are judged by fans, the athletic department, or the owners in the pros. Have you ever played a sport? Try and tell a coach after a loss "Coach it's alright that we lost because we had a better stat line." Then see his reaction. I would have loved to see you as a player with Herm Edwards as your coach. " Coach we may have lost but we had the better box score." -tippy "Hellooo Tippy you play to win the game!!!!" I'm sure he's an idiot too no one knows as much about football as the tipster.
Tippy are really that stupid? Do you think college or pro coaches would rather have a better score at the end of the game, or the better box score. Are they all idiots too and are they the minority because they understand that in the end wins and losses is how they are judged by fans, the athletic department, or the owners in the pros. Have you ever played a sport? Try and tell a coach after a loss "Coach it's alright that we lost because we had a better stat line." Then see his reaction. I would have loved to see you as a player with Herm Edwards as your coach. " Coach we may have lost but we had the better box score." -tippy "Hellooo Tippy you play to win the game!!!!" I'm sure he's an idiot too no one knows as much about football as the tipster.
Can someone help me get through to this moron? Is that the point I am trying to make? Is that what anyone in this forum wants to know? Who has the most wins or who won the game between these two teams? If you think there is a single capper in here who looks at the scoreboard of that game, and says "yup that team that just won, was the better team, and is a guaranteed bet the next time around", you are smoking some GOOD SHIT!
As I said before... LSU was the winner, and Bama was the better team on the field. The majority of this forum, and the entire nation all feel the same way. That is why the majority of the big money cappers in here are all betting Bama, because they know that they were the better team in that game, and will do the same in the National Championship.
Tippy are really that stupid? Do you think college or pro coaches would rather have a better score at the end of the game, or the better box score. Are they all idiots too and are they the minority because they understand that in the end wins and losses is how they are judged by fans, the athletic department, or the owners in the pros. Have you ever played a sport? Try and tell a coach after a loss "Coach it's alright that we lost because we had a better stat line." Then see his reaction. I would have loved to see you as a player with Herm Edwards as your coach. " Coach we may have lost but we had the better box score." -tippy "Hellooo Tippy you play to win the game!!!!" I'm sure he's an idiot too no one knows as much about football as the tipster.
Can someone help me get through to this moron? Is that the point I am trying to make? Is that what anyone in this forum wants to know? Who has the most wins or who won the game between these two teams? If you think there is a single capper in here who looks at the scoreboard of that game, and says "yup that team that just won, was the better team, and is a guaranteed bet the next time around", you are smoking some GOOD SHIT!
As I said before... LSU was the winner, and Bama was the better team on the field. The majority of this forum, and the entire nation all feel the same way. That is why the majority of the big money cappers in here are all betting Bama, because they know that they were the better team in that game, and will do the same in the National Championship.
Your opinion is not invalid. I like to see someone who is a big fan of a program such as yourself. I think the problem is even though you think you are being objective, you come off as not being objective. Jimmy on the other hand seems to be objective as one can get although he is a big Alabama fan. He makes his points about why he thinks Alabama will win. Then he also has pointed out that if LSU can get a passing game going, and still play the same kind of defense, then Alabama "could" possibly lose. He doesn't think they will, but he could see it happening if the game doesn't go the way he thinks it will. And don't take this the wrong way, but when you post it "sounds" like you don't think Alabama could ever lose again to LSU no matter what. That Alabama is so superior that the thought of it makes no sense. I try to be objective as well. I respectfully disagree with Jimmy and yourself, but at the same time i do know that LSU could lose. I think Bama is more physical but LSU is faster. I think Bama has the edge in the passing game, i think the running game is a push, i think LSU has a huge edge in special teams and the coaching is a push. Add these up and it should be close either way. Vegas tends to agree as the spread is just -1. Don't curb your enthusiasm, just try to be a little more objective. When it's all said and done, Bama and LSU fans aren't going to agree on the outcome of this game but good objective discussion is always a plus. Besides it's not you i have a problem with. No need to point out the one Alabama fan who has absolutely no objective views whatsever - he just rants about how LSU sucks and Bama is the best.And he has been awfully quiet lately. Maybe he decided to chill. Like Jimmy said, fanboards are the place for those kinds of things. Good luck and i expect it to be a great game and may the best team win!
Your opinion is not invalid. I like to see someone who is a big fan of a program such as yourself. I think the problem is even though you think you are being objective, you come off as not being objective. Jimmy on the other hand seems to be objective as one can get although he is a big Alabama fan. He makes his points about why he thinks Alabama will win. Then he also has pointed out that if LSU can get a passing game going, and still play the same kind of defense, then Alabama "could" possibly lose. He doesn't think they will, but he could see it happening if the game doesn't go the way he thinks it will. And don't take this the wrong way, but when you post it "sounds" like you don't think Alabama could ever lose again to LSU no matter what. That Alabama is so superior that the thought of it makes no sense. I try to be objective as well. I respectfully disagree with Jimmy and yourself, but at the same time i do know that LSU could lose. I think Bama is more physical but LSU is faster. I think Bama has the edge in the passing game, i think the running game is a push, i think LSU has a huge edge in special teams and the coaching is a push. Add these up and it should be close either way. Vegas tends to agree as the spread is just -1. Don't curb your enthusiasm, just try to be a little more objective. When it's all said and done, Bama and LSU fans aren't going to agree on the outcome of this game but good objective discussion is always a plus. Besides it's not you i have a problem with. No need to point out the one Alabama fan who has absolutely no objective views whatsever - he just rants about how LSU sucks and Bama is the best.And he has been awfully quiet lately. Maybe he decided to chill. Like Jimmy said, fanboards are the place for those kinds of things. Good luck and i expect it to be a great game and may the best team win!
Your opinion is not invalid. I like to see someone who is a big fan of a program such as yourself. I think the problem is even though you think you are being objective, you come off as not being objective. Jimmy on the other hand seems to be objective as one can get although he is a big Alabama fan. He makes his points about why he thinks Alabama will win. Then he also has pointed out that if LSU can get a passing game going, and still play the same kind of defense, then Alabama "could" possibly lose. He doesn't think they will, but he could see it happening if the game doesn't go the way he thinks it will. And don't take this the wrong way, but when you post it "sounds" like you don't think Alabama could ever lose again to LSU no matter what. That Alabama is so superior that the thought of it makes no sense. I try to be objective as well. I respectfully disagree with Jimmy and yourself, but at the same time i do know that LSU could lose. I think Bama is more physical but LSU is faster. I think Bama has the edge in the passing game, i think the running game is a push, i think LSU has a huge edge in special teams and the coaching is a push. Add these up and it should be close either way. Vegas tends to agree as the spread is just -1. Don't curb your enthusiasm, just try to be a little more objective. When it's all said and done, Bama and LSU fans aren't going to agree on the outcome of this game but good objective discussion is always a plus. Besides it's not you i have a problem with. No need to point out the one Alabama fan who has absolutely no objective views whatsever - he just rants about how LSU sucks and Bama is the best.And he has been awfully quiet lately. Maybe he decided to chill. Like Jimmy said, fanboards are the place for those kinds of things. Good luck and i expect it to be a great game and may the best team win!
I see what you are saying, but I wouldn't be me if I didn't come off like a bit of a homer. I think I can be allowed that seeing as how I not only give those one sided thoughts, but I back them up with stats.
On a side note, I definitely think there is a chance Bama can lose. When I make the statements I make I tend to make a note that these are things we "need" to do, rather than these are things that we "will" do. Not saying that I don't give the "will's" every now and again, but just as often I give the "needs"... Like Bama needs to execute better in the red zone, and Bama needs to shut down Jefferson this time. They didn't do it last time, so I don't know if they will or not...
I appreciate the forwardness, and always respect your opinions... You are one of the few I can tolerate when you post something on the contrary of what I believe, because you are objective, and always manage to have a good point that is backed up.
Your opinion is not invalid. I like to see someone who is a big fan of a program such as yourself. I think the problem is even though you think you are being objective, you come off as not being objective. Jimmy on the other hand seems to be objective as one can get although he is a big Alabama fan. He makes his points about why he thinks Alabama will win. Then he also has pointed out that if LSU can get a passing game going, and still play the same kind of defense, then Alabama "could" possibly lose. He doesn't think they will, but he could see it happening if the game doesn't go the way he thinks it will. And don't take this the wrong way, but when you post it "sounds" like you don't think Alabama could ever lose again to LSU no matter what. That Alabama is so superior that the thought of it makes no sense. I try to be objective as well. I respectfully disagree with Jimmy and yourself, but at the same time i do know that LSU could lose. I think Bama is more physical but LSU is faster. I think Bama has the edge in the passing game, i think the running game is a push, i think LSU has a huge edge in special teams and the coaching is a push. Add these up and it should be close either way. Vegas tends to agree as the spread is just -1. Don't curb your enthusiasm, just try to be a little more objective. When it's all said and done, Bama and LSU fans aren't going to agree on the outcome of this game but good objective discussion is always a plus. Besides it's not you i have a problem with. No need to point out the one Alabama fan who has absolutely no objective views whatsever - he just rants about how LSU sucks and Bama is the best.And he has been awfully quiet lately. Maybe he decided to chill. Like Jimmy said, fanboards are the place for those kinds of things. Good luck and i expect it to be a great game and may the best team win!
I see what you are saying, but I wouldn't be me if I didn't come off like a bit of a homer. I think I can be allowed that seeing as how I not only give those one sided thoughts, but I back them up with stats.
On a side note, I definitely think there is a chance Bama can lose. When I make the statements I make I tend to make a note that these are things we "need" to do, rather than these are things that we "will" do. Not saying that I don't give the "will's" every now and again, but just as often I give the "needs"... Like Bama needs to execute better in the red zone, and Bama needs to shut down Jefferson this time. They didn't do it last time, so I don't know if they will or not...
I appreciate the forwardness, and always respect your opinions... You are one of the few I can tolerate when you post something on the contrary of what I believe, because you are objective, and always manage to have a good point that is backed up.
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