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HeadOverHeart

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Posted: Aug. 27, 2016 - 11:43 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

Well-said. It is obvious that you are a very well-learned, well-informed individual by the way you wrote this.Headoverheart - (hand shake)

Another funny thing is the liberal attacks of flip flopper towards trump lol. It seems the majority, gullible, uneducated, uniformed, low information voters seem unable to comprehend policy formation. It's a part of the political development process. You see the majority, gullible, uneducated, uniformed, low information voters think the constitution was written in one day with no disagreements. It took 116 days to write the constitution because of many revisions. Today "revision" would be considered flip flopping. The idea of what the constitution still remained regardless of the revisions. The educated, sensible, well informed understand what trump is doing. Trumps ideas remain the same. He's just revising his message to appeal to the uneducated, uniformed, low information, undecided voters and revising to attempt to satisfy the loyalist establishment aristocrats, loyal to the establishment crown. It's the game of politics.

Very well said again.

But I guess if I compliment someone on their writing, I am, to quote, "just jerking you off,", according to jdr016 though.

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dl36

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Posted: Aug. 28, 2016 - 12:04 AM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

I agree with you, trump tweeting about the devicive issues trying to push his racially charged emotion rhetoric is poor strategy.

I also agree with you that he needs to convey his economic message. Trump lack of experince is glaringly obvious In every possible way. But as a businessman you would think he and his supporters would be showcasing his plan and policies concerning economy, financial and fiscal issues. This would be a winning strategy.

But instead what you hear from trump and often times his supporters is about Hillary's health or anything and everything and possible to smear Hillary which is basically waving the white flag that there is nothing trump has to offer or they have nothing to showcase and in fact the more America learns about trump and who he really is, the less we would vote for him. Because if that was not the case you would see him and his supporters marketting the positives of his plans and policies to Americans. Perhaps is it trumps fault for engaging in poor strategy and sticking with tweets and Hillary bashing. Perhaps it is his base and supporters that really don't know or have a clue beyond hating Hillary and Obama. But I think the path they are on is a losing one and it will show in th results.

Having bannon communicate for trump might be strategy that works. The problem is that it does not help trump if trump does not have a clear message about his plan and policies concerning economy/financial/fiscal that is both effective and simple enough for his own supporters to understand if he wants to gain voters on what would seemingly be his strength. The problem as you pointed out is that trump is too busy tweeting about issues that make him less likable to the overall sensible majority of America and pander to his racially charged emotional GOP majority voting base that selected him.

I eluded to this in my first post wanted to see what you thought about my position that trump flipping and flopping all over the place is a good strategy because while might loose some of the informed supporters who are supporting him based on principles, he can basically do what ever he wants and not lose the low information and uneducated part of his base that doesn't know up from down anyways

Sorry, I meant to say,

Trump's lack of experience is glaringly obvious

Sundance as someone that is voting for Hilary and is not a liberal, it is nice to have a conversation about the actual candidate and the issues with out having those types of nonsense and antics.

I was not familiar with bannon and I liked your comments about him. Very informative when the conversation transcends the whole partisan bs and gets down to the actual issues

Would like to hear your thoughts on my position that flip flopping is actually a good strategy for trump and will be a net gain. I get it that liberals would criticize it but as someone who is not a liberal I think the opposite and think that it is a good idea for trump. Not perfect because it has its negatives but the net gain will be positive

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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

I agree with you, trump tweeting about the devicive issues trying to push his racially charged emotion rhetoric is poor strategy.

I also agree with you that he needs to convey his economic message. Trump lack of experince is glaringly obvious In every possible way. But as a businessman you would think he and his supporters would be showcasing his plan and policies concerning economy, financial and fiscal issues. This would be a winning strategy.

But instead what you hear from trump and often times his supporters is about Hillary's health or anything and everything and possible to smear Hillary which is basically waving the white flag that there is nothing trump has to offer or they have nothing to showcase and in fact the more America learns about trump and who he really is, the less we would vote for him. Because if that was not the case you would see him and his supporters marketting the positives of his plans and policies to Americans. Perhaps is it trumps fault for engaging in poor strategy and sticking with tweets and Hillary bashing. Perhaps it is his base and supporters that really don't know or have a clue beyond hating Hillary and Obama. But I think the path they are on is a losing one and it will show in th results.

Having bannon communicate for trump might be strategy that works. The problem is that it does not help trump if trump does not have a clear message about his plan and policies concerning economy/financial/fiscal that is both effective and simple enough for his own supporters to understand if he wants to gain voters on what would seemingly be his strength. The problem as you pointed out is that trump is too busy tweeting about issues that make him less likable to the overall sensible majority of America and pander to his racially charged emotional GOP majority voting base that selected him.

I eluded to this in my first post wanted to see what you thought about my position that trump flipping and flopping all over the place is a good strategy because while might loose some of the informed supporters who are supporting him based on principles, he can basically do what ever he wants and not lose the low information and uneducated part of his base that doesn't know up from down anyways

Sorry, I meant to say,

Trump's lack of experience is glaringly obvious

Sundance as someone that is voting for Hilary and is not a liberal, it is nice to have a conversation about the actual candidate and the issues with out having those types of nonsense and antics.

I was not familiar with bannon and I liked your comments about him. Very informative when the conversation transcends the whole partisan bs and gets down to the actual issues

Would like to hear your thoughts on my position that flip flopping is actually a good strategy for trump and will be a net gain. I get it that liberals would criticize it but as someone who is not a liberal I think the opposite and think that it is a good idea for trump. Not perfect because it has its negatives but the net gain will be positive

Biscuiteater1

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Posted: Aug. 28, 2016 - 6:56 AM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by jdr016:

You couldn't be more wrong. Polls showed most of Trumps supporters during the Republican primaries did not have college degrees. I believe he was even with Cruz and Rubio with voters that had college degrees. That might have changed after Rubio dropped out. But, you're wrong!

Of course he's wrong, heck close to 40% of repubs still think Obama was born outside the U.S. and is muslim. Trump got 100% of their vote.

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Hugh_Jorgan

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Posted: Aug. 28, 2016 - 7:37 AM ET #29

A debate on whose supporters are dumber, isn't this productive!

It's worth pointing out that this happens to be a liberal talking point, that Trump's supporters are ignorant, uninformed, uneducated people, and I'm sure many are.

Of course those same liberals fail to recognize that the largest segment of ignorant, uninformed, uneducated people in this country is poor people, who just so happen to overwhelmingly vote democrat.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good talking point

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Biscuiteater1

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Posted: Aug. 28, 2016 - 9:27 AM ET #30

Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

A debate on whose supporters are dumber, isn't this productive!

It's worth pointing out that this happens to be a liberal talking point, that Trump's supporters are ignorant, uninformed, uneducated people, and I'm sure many are.

Of course those same liberals fail to recognize that the largest segment of ignorant, uninformed, uneducated people in this country is poor people, who just so happen to overwhelmingly vote democrat.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good talking point

Therefore proving that at least they know whose water to carry. Bottom line, more educated, and less educated seem inclined to vote dem this time around

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SarasotaSlim

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Posted: Aug. 28, 2016 - 6:05 PM ET #31

Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

Of course he's wrong, heck close to 40% of repubs still think Obama was born outside the U.S. and is muslim. Trump got 100% of their vote.

The whole Obama birther thing originated during the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2007/08 with supporters of Hillary Clinton..

Hillary Clinton was the godmother of the birther rumors about Barack Obama..and as reported by the WaPo in "07".... Barack Obama himself believes Hillary Clinton started the Birther rumors..

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Biscuiteater1

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Posted: Aug. 28, 2016 - 7:50 PM ET #32

But Trump sent a team of investigators to Hawaii.

Dont care who planted the seed, we know who has nutured the plant.

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SarasotaSlim

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Posted: Aug. 28, 2016 - 8:10 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

But Trump sent a team of investigators to Hawaii.

Dont care who planted the seed, we know who has nutured the plant.

As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.

In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.

There will be growth in the spring!

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