with no offense to tb or bos welcome to the real stanley cup final as
bettors here we know that the west conf is the best. over the last 9
years since the clutching and grabbing rule was instituted west conf
teams head to head beat east conf teams by about 62% of the time. even
the oilers this year have a winning record against east teams.
there
are theories out there why this is so. my theory is that when the rule
was announced the east grabbed the most skilled scorers they could
sign while the west grabbed the best d men and two way players
around. if defense truly wins games it has been evident with the west
style against the east.
it is still very possible that an
east team could win. this is a matchup as a nuck fan i did not really
want, because of the physical beatdowns by both sides. my first prediction is lots of physical play and
injuries. the longer this goes in games then we might see a stanley
cup winner out of the east.
we have 2 of the biggest and physical
teams in the league right here. this should feature lots of hitting,
and more hitting. the battle has already begun off ice.
"I don't even remember what that weasel said," snorted Bieksa. In an
interview, Wellwood said he liked playing for the Sharks because they
are a more mature team and "they're not so scared of losing." That
brought a laugh from Bieksa. "When we had him on our squad we were
afraid to lose," he said. "He was the smallest third-line centre in
the league at that point."
a
simple assessment using covers matchup as a tool will tell us that van
has the edge in all areas -check marks in off, def, pp,pk, faceoffs,
discipline and goaltending. one category i can disagree with is
offense, and i believe the goaltending is a wash maybe a slight edge to the sharks. some of you would say big adv sharks, but i thought niemi looked weak on a few as an ex; the datsyuk goal on a sharp angle with a backhand shot!
stats can be used as a starting point. up until this
year the sharks have owned the canucks. this year nucks were 3-1. interestingly van scored the first goal in all 4 games. something
that will entice me to play the trend on props. last 2 games went to
shootout - that i will play as a trend with ot yes. the success nucks
had this year can also tell me that this will be close. had these 2 met
last year with the roster nucks had i would probably be on the
sharks.
offense couture, and clowe lead the standings for the
sharks. jumbo joe has shaken the label imo as a playoff jinx, and
choker. pavelski is dangerous though he did not do much last series.
setoguchi is a pure goal scorer and will get his points no doubt.
heatley has slipped in production since being a senator, but yes can be dangerous.
it is hard to assess the offense at this point for the nucks as they dropped almost a full 2pts in reg season to post season output. alot of it has to do with the fact they just went against 2 of the best d pairings in the league in keith and seabrook. then weber and suter
covers poster powerz noted this about henrik during the chi series: Henrik had a stomach problem and dropped some serious weight a few
weeks back, with the intensity level of PO hockey he has had
problems putting it back on, therefore he strength and stamina is
somewhat diminished. Everyone is speculating that he is injured as
he was clearly struggling in the third period last game, I think he
was cramping up. There is a picture in the paper today of the two
bros side by side and for the first time ever you can tell them apart.
no doubt the extra time off should help henrik. higgins is still ailing over a blocked shot he took during a nsv game.
sedins are not fast skaters at all. this has contributed to their minuses in the playoffs. the fact they cycle the puck deep in the opp territory would put them at a disadvantage should they lose the puck as they both have to cover significant ice to get back in the play. their strengths are they are tough to knock off the puck and given open ice which they should get more of this series they are the best playmakers in the nhl.
defense big edge van here. especially in depth but also on offense. the reason van is #1 in reg season for pp is the defensemen being able to get shots on net and with salo back in the lineup expect to see greater offensive production and dmen joining in the rush. kesler just singlehandedly beat the 2 best d pairings in the league-
weber and suter compared to the dmen we just faced this is a holliday. boyle
is more known for moving the puck- murray might be their best true
dman.vlasic is decent. white getting less time after those there is a dropoff. van has 2 men sitting in ballard and alberts
that could make the top pairings on tons of nhl clubs. van has
the best dmen left in these playoffs as a collective six. not only that
these same d men skate well, pass well, hit, and they are also the
best offensive dman unit left in the playoffs as well.
forecheck, backcheck, faceoffs
hansen got the unsung hero award this year for van. last year was fastest skater raymond. tambellini is the 3rd fastest skater and if you saw how he hunted down erat on his breakaway - you would now know van has speed and size. hansen is a big reason for the pk being tops in the league. he is our bob gainey. there was a point in the late season where van was missing 4 dmen yet van still did ok. you can thank the fact that van has the speed to get back in the play. these are your collective best backcheckers in the nhl. i cringe when the 3rd or 4th line gets scoring chances because they have hands of lead. the good news is that when they have the puck through tenacious forechecking it takes time of possession away from any nhl's finest scorers to do their job. so meet as well one of the most formidable forecheckers and top faceoff crew in the nhl.
intangibles van is the only team in the league i have ever known that draws up plays like an nfl coach does. they have set plays! the 2 goal victory over nsv was a set play on henrik's goal. win the faceoff - shoot the puck along the end boards to burrows who chips it to henrik for the open net. they also study the boards and watch how quickly pucks come off of them. one set play is to cross the red line fire the puck off the active part of the board and have one of the sedins take the carom off the end and set up for a goal. they have offensive set plays for faceoffs deep in enemy territory which is reasons why van can score with 3 tics left on the clock.
if defense wins championships and as a true model of what a west conf power would look like - look no further than the van canucks.
with no offense to tb or bos welcome to the real stanley cup final as
bettors here we know that the west conf is the best. over the last 9
years since the clutching and grabbing rule was instituted west conf
teams head to head beat east conf teams by about 62% of the time. even
the oilers this year have a winning record against east teams.
there
are theories out there why this is so. my theory is that when the rule
was announced the east grabbed the most skilled scorers they could
sign while the west grabbed the best d men and two way players
around. if defense truly wins games it has been evident with the west
style against the east.
it is still very possible that an
east team could win. this is a matchup as a nuck fan i did not really
want, because of the physical beatdowns by both sides. my first prediction is lots of physical play and
injuries. the longer this goes in games then we might see a stanley
cup winner out of the east.
we have 2 of the biggest and physical
teams in the league right here. this should feature lots of hitting,
and more hitting. the battle has already begun off ice.
"I don't even remember what that weasel said," snorted Bieksa. In an
interview, Wellwood said he liked playing for the Sharks because they
are a more mature team and "they're not so scared of losing." That
brought a laugh from Bieksa. "When we had him on our squad we were
afraid to lose," he said. "He was the smallest third-line centre in
the league at that point."
a
simple assessment using covers matchup as a tool will tell us that van
has the edge in all areas -check marks in off, def, pp,pk, faceoffs,
discipline and goaltending. one category i can disagree with is
offense, and i believe the goaltending is a wash maybe a slight edge to the sharks. some of you would say big adv sharks, but i thought niemi looked weak on a few as an ex; the datsyuk goal on a sharp angle with a backhand shot!
stats can be used as a starting point. up until this
year the sharks have owned the canucks. this year nucks were 3-1. interestingly van scored the first goal in all 4 games. something
that will entice me to play the trend on props. last 2 games went to
shootout - that i will play as a trend with ot yes. the success nucks
had this year can also tell me that this will be close. had these 2 met
last year with the roster nucks had i would probably be on the
sharks.
offense couture, and clowe lead the standings for the
sharks. jumbo joe has shaken the label imo as a playoff jinx, and
choker. pavelski is dangerous though he did not do much last series.
setoguchi is a pure goal scorer and will get his points no doubt.
heatley has slipped in production since being a senator, but yes can be dangerous.
it is hard to assess the offense at this point for the nucks as they dropped almost a full 2pts in reg season to post season output. alot of it has to do with the fact they just went against 2 of the best d pairings in the league in keith and seabrook. then weber and suter
covers poster powerz noted this about henrik during the chi series: Henrik had a stomach problem and dropped some serious weight a few
weeks back, with the intensity level of PO hockey he has had
problems putting it back on, therefore he strength and stamina is
somewhat diminished. Everyone is speculating that he is injured as
he was clearly struggling in the third period last game, I think he
was cramping up. There is a picture in the paper today of the two
bros side by side and for the first time ever you can tell them apart.
no doubt the extra time off should help henrik. higgins is still ailing over a blocked shot he took during a nsv game.
sedins are not fast skaters at all. this has contributed to their minuses in the playoffs. the fact they cycle the puck deep in the opp territory would put them at a disadvantage should they lose the puck as they both have to cover significant ice to get back in the play. their strengths are they are tough to knock off the puck and given open ice which they should get more of this series they are the best playmakers in the nhl.
defense big edge van here. especially in depth but also on offense. the reason van is #1 in reg season for pp is the defensemen being able to get shots on net and with salo back in the lineup expect to see greater offensive production and dmen joining in the rush. kesler just singlehandedly beat the 2 best d pairings in the league-
weber and suter compared to the dmen we just faced this is a holliday. boyle
is more known for moving the puck- murray might be their best true
dman.vlasic is decent. white getting less time after those there is a dropoff. van has 2 men sitting in ballard and alberts
that could make the top pairings on tons of nhl clubs. van has
the best dmen left in these playoffs as a collective six. not only that
these same d men skate well, pass well, hit, and they are also the
best offensive dman unit left in the playoffs as well.
forecheck, backcheck, faceoffs
hansen got the unsung hero award this year for van. last year was fastest skater raymond. tambellini is the 3rd fastest skater and if you saw how he hunted down erat on his breakaway - you would now know van has speed and size. hansen is a big reason for the pk being tops in the league. he is our bob gainey. there was a point in the late season where van was missing 4 dmen yet van still did ok. you can thank the fact that van has the speed to get back in the play. these are your collective best backcheckers in the nhl. i cringe when the 3rd or 4th line gets scoring chances because they have hands of lead. the good news is that when they have the puck through tenacious forechecking it takes time of possession away from any nhl's finest scorers to do their job. so meet as well one of the most formidable forecheckers and top faceoff crew in the nhl.
intangibles van is the only team in the league i have ever known that draws up plays like an nfl coach does. they have set plays! the 2 goal victory over nsv was a set play on henrik's goal. win the faceoff - shoot the puck along the end boards to burrows who chips it to henrik for the open net. they also study the boards and watch how quickly pucks come off of them. one set play is to cross the red line fire the puck off the active part of the board and have one of the sedins take the carom off the end and set up for a goal. they have offensive set plays for faceoffs deep in enemy territory which is reasons why van can score with 3 tics left on the clock.
if defense wins championships and as a true model of what a west conf power would look like - look no further than the van canucks.
If I recall correct, in the last 10 years, a team from the East has won 5 Stanley Cups. And in the last 20 years, it's 10 Champs from the East. So while the West might win those nice games in January or February - the FACT is, the East hold their own in the finals. And your hubris is all but guaranteeing that the Lightning destroy whoever is coming out of the west. So, thanks for that...
If I recall correct, in the last 10 years, a team from the East has won 5 Stanley Cups. And in the last 20 years, it's 10 Champs from the East. So while the West might win those nice games in January or February - the FACT is, the East hold their own in the finals. And your hubris is all but guaranteeing that the Lightning destroy whoever is coming out of the west. So, thanks for that...
If I recall correct, in the last 10 years, a team from the East has won 5 Stanley Cups. And in the last 20 years, it's 10 Champs from the East. So while the West might win those nice games in January or February - the FACT is, the East hold their own in the finals. And your hubris is all but guaranteeing that the Lightning destroy whoever is coming out of the west. So, thanks for that...
If I recall correct, in the last 10 years, a team from the East has won 5 Stanley Cups. And in the last 20 years, it's 10 Champs from the East. So while the West might win those nice games in January or February - the FACT is, the East hold their own in the finals. And your hubris is all but guaranteeing that the Lightning destroy whoever is coming out of the west. So, thanks for that...
if it goes 7 with injuries then yes could be bolts or boston. however, do you want to place a future based on the fact there might not be any injuries at all. also the price for van to win at 5 is extremely low. don't be surprised if that does happen. don't take things out of context - predicting the exact future could cost you
if it goes 7 with injuries then yes could be bolts or boston. however, do you want to place a future based on the fact there might not be any injuries at all. also the price for van to win at 5 is extremely low. don't be surprised if that does happen. don't take things out of context - predicting the exact future could cost you
the fact also that there are more physical battles out in the west just to get to the final is a big reason why east teams have held their own. i started with my first ovs book at bowmans in 1995 cuz i knew det was spent b4 facing nj. naturally i had the devils. if van or sharks get out of this fresh and without injs esp van cuz they have more speed- i would back a west team
the fact also that there are more physical battles out in the west just to get to the final is a big reason why east teams have held their own. i started with my first ovs book at bowmans in 1995 cuz i knew det was spent b4 facing nj. naturally i had the devils. if van or sharks get out of this fresh and without injs esp van cuz they have more speed- i would back a west team
umm also the line opened at -150 takeback +125 the line has moved up despite public bets slightly favouring sharks. this is a reverse line movement play for those that play line movements this line should have been -135 the books clearly don't respect the sharks. books are right in nuck games in the post season by moving its lines up. nsv and chi had tremendous 'value' too bad value doesn't pay
umm also the line opened at -150 takeback +125 the line has moved up despite public bets slightly favouring sharks. this is a reverse line movement play for those that play line movements this line should have been -135 the books clearly don't respect the sharks. books are right in nuck games in the post season by moving its lines up. nsv and chi had tremendous 'value' too bad value doesn't pay
i spent about 2 hrs compiling and doing some fact checking. what i wrote above is for the benefit of all. just a local trying to help out. amd is a michigan local. without his w/u in g7 of det and sj i would have played det. so consider this report giving back to what amd did for me. reading between the lines- det weakness was their depth at defense. defense means everything in the playoffs.
i spent about 2 hrs compiling and doing some fact checking. what i wrote above is for the benefit of all. just a local trying to help out. amd is a michigan local. without his w/u in g7 of det and sj i would have played det. so consider this report giving back to what amd did for me. reading between the lines- det weakness was their depth at defense. defense means everything in the playoffs.
i spent about 2 hrs compiling and doing some fact checking. what i wrote above is for the benefit of all. just a local trying to help out. amd is a michigan local. without his w/u in g7 of det and sj i would have played det. so consider this report giving back to what amd did for me. reading between the lines- det weakness was their depth at defense. defense means everything in the playoffs.
i spent about 2 hrs compiling and doing some fact checking. what i wrote above is for the benefit of all. just a local trying to help out. amd is a michigan local. without his w/u in g7 of det and sj i would have played det. so consider this report giving back to what amd did for me. reading between the lines- det weakness was their depth at defense. defense means everything in the playoffs.
I appreciate you taking the time to give such a nice write up of a team you obviously know a lot about. Thanks for the detailed local perspective.
thank you sir! you're a class act. whether anyone is on sj and have your own reasons. this is all the appreciation i wanted knowing it is correct so ty TDD
I appreciate you taking the time to give such a nice write up of a team you obviously know a lot about. Thanks for the detailed local perspective.
thank you sir! you're a class act. whether anyone is on sj and have your own reasons. this is all the appreciation i wanted knowing it is correct so ty TDD
Like I have mentioned, I truly believe Kesler will be the difference in whether Vancouver wins or loses. If he continues to dominate at both ends of the rink, Nucks take it...if not, unless Lapierre or someone else steps up in a big way, I think Sharks take it.
I can't see this series following any possible pattern. I wouldn't be shocked if the Nucks swept the first 2 or if the Sharks did.
Like I have mentioned, I truly believe Kesler will be the difference in whether Vancouver wins or loses. If he continues to dominate at both ends of the rink, Nucks take it...if not, unless Lapierre or someone else steps up in a big way, I think Sharks take it.
I can't see this series following any possible pattern. I wouldn't be shocked if the Nucks swept the first 2 or if the Sharks did.
Like I have mentioned, I truly believe Kesler will be the difference in whether Vancouver wins or loses. If he continues to dominate at both ends of the rink, Nucks take it...if not, unless Lapierre or someone else steps up in a big way, I think Sharks take it.
I can't see this series following any possible pattern. I wouldn't be shocked if the Nucks swept the first 2 or if the Sharks did.
i saw one of your comments in the nucks are sick thread. u boldly predicted kesler wins conn smythe. kudos to u...he is in the lead
Like I have mentioned, I truly believe Kesler will be the difference in whether Vancouver wins or loses. If he continues to dominate at both ends of the rink, Nucks take it...if not, unless Lapierre or someone else steps up in a big way, I think Sharks take it.
I can't see this series following any possible pattern. I wouldn't be shocked if the Nucks swept the first 2 or if the Sharks did.
i saw one of your comments in the nucks are sick thread. u boldly predicted kesler wins conn smythe. kudos to u...he is in the lead
If I recall correct, in the last 10 years, a team from the East has won 5 Stanley Cups. And in the last 20 years, it's 10 Champs from the East. So while the West might win those nice games in January or February - the FACT is, the East hold their own in the finals. And your hubris is all but guaranteeing that the Lightning destroy whoever is coming out of the west. So, thanks for that...
If I recall correct, in the last 10 years, a team from the East has won 5 Stanley Cups. And in the last 20 years, it's 10 Champs from the East. So while the West might win those nice games in January or February - the FACT is, the East hold their own in the finals. And your hubris is all but guaranteeing that the Lightning destroy whoever is coming out of the west. So, thanks for that...
hey whatever floats your boat if u think bolts win over the west in 4 great! bolts are playing well- if in fact they do make it. you're the one guaranteeing a bolts victory my approach is quite more subtle than that. the title says why they should not that they would....
hey whatever floats your boat if u think bolts win over the west in 4 great! bolts are playing well- if in fact they do make it. you're the one guaranteeing a bolts victory my approach is quite more subtle than that. the title says why they should not that they would....
maybe - maybe not. i like trends though- i still suspect clowe is not near 80% wouldn't surprise me if he is the first guy to be injured for this matchup
maybe - maybe not. i like trends though- i still suspect clowe is not near 80% wouldn't surprise me if he is the first guy to be injured for this matchup
If I recall correct, in the last 10 years, a team from the East has won 5 Stanley Cups. And in the last 20 years, it's 10 Champs from the East. So while the West might win those nice games in January or February - the FACT is, the East hold their own in the finals. And your hubris is all but guaranteeing that the Lightning destroy whoever is coming out of the west. So, thanks for that...
not only that with 5 black stars predicting the future as u have nicely done for us ....well ....
If I recall correct, in the last 10 years, a team from the East has won 5 Stanley Cups. And in the last 20 years, it's 10 Champs from the East. So while the West might win those nice games in January or February - the FACT is, the East hold their own in the finals. And your hubris is all but guaranteeing that the Lightning destroy whoever is coming out of the west. So, thanks for that...
not only that with 5 black stars predicting the future as u have nicely done for us ....well ....
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