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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2023 - 7:27 PM ET #1

    on it. DC ERA get ready for the rise. moneyeyes

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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2023 - 8:18 PM ET #2

    I just don't see the value here.  I put them about 50:1, which means there's no value with these odds.  What do you think their chances are?  

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    I just don't see the value here.  I put them about 50:1, which means there's no value with these odds.  What do you think their chances are?  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2023 - 7:00 PM ET #3

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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 12:14 AM ET #4

    oh boy 

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    That's be good. myfedloan login

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    Jets 

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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2023 - 7:50 AM ET #7

    Chiefs to repeat. cool

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    I repeat get in on them now at +4000 . We’ll now down to 3300 at some shops I’m hoping in again Boys. Weak schedule, weak division, incredible additions. DC at the helm, Michael Thomas fully healthy. perry a future #1 option for this team at wr ,kamara only 3 game suspension all books thought more than half season suspension, foster Moreau great sneaky pickup will be elite at TE was just in the shadow of raiders great te last yr Waller. Kareem hunt/kamara best duo in league and oh yeah jamaal TD Williams ain’t bad either. great additions to an already elite defense. 

     

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    I repeat get in on them now at +4000 . We’ll now down to 3300 at some shops I’m hoping in again Boys. Weak schedule, weak division, incredible additions. DC at the helm, Michael Thomas fully healthy. perry a future #1 option for this team at wr ,kamara only 3 game suspension all books thought more than half season suspension, foster Moreau great sneaky pickup will be elite at TE was just in the shadow of raiders great te last yr Waller. Kareem hunt/kamara best duo in league and oh yeah jamaal TD Williams ain’t bad either. great additions to an already elite defense. 

     

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    I don't see it but Interesting choice tho. Derek Carr returning to Vegas to play for a Superbowl an_speak

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    I don't see it but Interesting choice tho. Derek Carr returning to Vegas to play for a Superbowl an_speak

     
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    DC the modern day Drew Brees. Ill sprinkle a little.

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    No one from that trash division is winning the SB. Saints should be better on offense but they're gonna need to be as it was anemic last year. Watching them vs the Chiefs you could see the starters look good but they lack depth and you could see how KC's system really is on another level, even if you're not Mahomes and Kelce you can hit big passes all day with their play designs but the Saints everything was hard work and guys weren't open in space. Dennis Allen doesn't strike me as a genius coach.

    And beyond that their defense, which was excellent vs the pass, was below average vs the run and was absolutely allergic to creating takeaways last year. It seemed like a good defense on paper but they don't pass the eye test as they were trash on 3rd downs especially 3rd and long. You even saw that in the preseason game, 3rd and more than 10 given up 3 times on one drive.

    I actually think the Falcons will win the South just because their offense was actually good last year and they will get Pitts back at some point if not week 1.

    Signing a vet from somewhere else generally hasn't been the formula to win Super Bowls recently. When has it worked? Stafford and the Rams a couple years ago is the only one comes to mind. I wouldn't say the Saints roster is a million miles away from that one but they're not quite as stacked as that one was.

    Other than that team I think it's worked once in the last 20 years? And that was Peyton Manning in Denver, who actually lost the first SB they got to even with a record setting offense. It was the D won it for them really the 2nd try. Anyway, Derek Carr is not quite Peyton Manning.

    But having said all that, the only value in these futures is with longshots like this. Before TB13 came along it was quite often teams that did nothing the year before that won it all out of nowhere next year. 

    I just think, as tough as it is to repeat, the Chiefs just look like another Pats type dynasty. You have to be up at least 3 TDs to not have Mahomes magic up a comeback in a playoff game. If that Eagles team with that stacked defense that had the most sacks, least pass yards allowed in combination with an offense that had AJ Brown 3rd in receiving yards, Smith 9th in rec yards and Sanders 5th in rush yards, AND Hurts running for 903 yards (which is more than half the number 1 RBs in the NFL had, including Pro Bowlers like Kamara who had eight hundred something in 15 games) they couldn't beat KC who the heck can?

    The Saints are 3-7 in games without Kamara. Jamaal Williams is good at poaching TDs but he doesn't have Kamara's skill set and Kendre Miller the RB they drafted got hurt in the preseason game already (and he didn't look very effective).

    Their TE Juwan Johnson tho is a really good player who could be a top 5 pass catching TE this year. I think the Saints will need a year to fix the offense. It's not gonna gel quickly with MT off an injury and AK suspended. Plus MT will probably get banged up again.

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    No one from that trash division is winning the SB. Saints should be better on offense but they're gonna need to be as it was anemic last year. Watching them vs the Chiefs you could see the starters look good but they lack depth and you could see how KC's system really is on another level, even if you're not Mahomes and Kelce you can hit big passes all day with their play designs but the Saints everything was hard work and guys weren't open in space. Dennis Allen doesn't strike me as a genius coach.

    And beyond that their defense, which was excellent vs the pass, was below average vs the run and was absolutely allergic to creating takeaways last year. It seemed like a good defense on paper but they don't pass the eye test as they were trash on 3rd downs especially 3rd and long. You even saw that in the preseason game, 3rd and more than 10 given up 3 times on one drive.

    I actually think the Falcons will win the South just because their offense was actually good last year and they will get Pitts back at some point if not week 1.

    Signing a vet from somewhere else generally hasn't been the formula to win Super Bowls recently. When has it worked? Stafford and the Rams a couple years ago is the only one comes to mind. I wouldn't say the Saints roster is a million miles away from that one but they're not quite as stacked as that one was.

    Other than that team I think it's worked once in the last 20 years? And that was Peyton Manning in Denver, who actually lost the first SB they got to even with a record setting offense. It was the D won it for them really the 2nd try. Anyway, Derek Carr is not quite Peyton Manning.

    But having said all that, the only value in these futures is with longshots like this. Before TB13 came along it was quite often teams that did nothing the year before that won it all out of nowhere next year. 

    I just think, as tough as it is to repeat, the Chiefs just look like another Pats type dynasty. You have to be up at least 3 TDs to not have Mahomes magic up a comeback in a playoff game. If that Eagles team with that stacked defense that had the most sacks, least pass yards allowed in combination with an offense that had AJ Brown 3rd in receiving yards, Smith 9th in rec yards and Sanders 5th in rush yards, AND Hurts running for 903 yards (which is more than half the number 1 RBs in the NFL had, including Pro Bowlers like Kamara who had eight hundred something in 15 games) they couldn't beat KC who the heck can?

    The Saints are 3-7 in games without Kamara. Jamaal Williams is good at poaching TDs but he doesn't have Kamara's skill set and Kendre Miller the RB they drafted got hurt in the preseason game already (and he didn't look very effective).

    Their TE Juwan Johnson tho is a really good player who could be a top 5 pass catching TE this year. I think the Saints will need a year to fix the offense. It's not gonna gel quickly with MT off an injury and AK suspended. Plus MT will probably get banged up again.

     
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    Save your money the Saints suck they probably won’t even make the playoffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitchris562:

    DC the modern day Drew Brees. Ill sprinkle a little.

    That is some funny shit right there.bigsmile

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    The Saints won’t win the division. If they make the playoffs it will be 3 road games. Not likely to go to or win a Super Bowl in that scenario. 

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    The Saints won’t win the division. If they make the playoffs it will be 3 road games. Not likely to go to or win a Super Bowl in that scenario. 

     
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     This prediction is from last year number nuts.

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     This prediction is from last year number nuts.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullshark:

    Save your money the Saints suck they probably won’t even make the playoffs

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    Besides it's the WORST division in NFL an_drunksick

     

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    @pied_piper

     Logic still applies for 2024. 

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     Logic still applies for 2024. 

     
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     Still applies for the next decade. You're throwing money away betting on the Saints to win a SB anytime soon. 

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     Still applies for the next decade. You're throwing money away betting on the Saints to win a SB anytime soon. 

     
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    Rams coolmoneybag

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    oooooooo  browns toan_roll_laugh

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