A lot has been made by fans with a very limited understanding of the game of football, about Manning's arm... what they are failing to understand is Manning's head. He has arguably the highest football IQ of any QB to ever play the game. I would be far more concerned with what is going on above the shoulders than what is going on below the shoulders. He is not a moron! He knows his arm strength isn't what it used to be, and he and his coach have 2 weeks to figure out every way to maximize the strengths of his game and minimize the weaknesses.
I feel that the people looking only at his arm strength are taking a very one-dimensional approach to handicapping this game.
A lot has been made by fans with a very limited understanding of the game of football, about Manning's arm... what they are failing to understand is Manning's head. He has arguably the highest football IQ of any QB to ever play the game. I would be far more concerned with what is going on above the shoulders than what is going on below the shoulders. He is not a moron! He knows his arm strength isn't what it used to be, and he and his coach have 2 weeks to figure out every way to maximize the strengths of his game and minimize the weaknesses.
I feel that the people looking only at his arm strength are taking a very one-dimensional approach to handicapping this game.
What is silly? You not only didn't answer my question but you kinda proved a point. The point is yeah sure Denver could win. But the players on the field says Carolina wins 8 out of 10 times in my eyes. And you and others continue to prove my point. I'm still waiting to hear how Denver scores offensively on this defense.
I hardly proved your point at all, but you bring up a good one. The current line suggest that Carolina win 70% of the time. If you think that they win 80% like you say then it's a good bet. But if someone else thinks that Denver wins 35% of the time, then Denver ML is a good bet at the current price. So in that case, even though someone is giving Carolina a much better chance of winning, it still makes sense to wager on Denver at these numbers.
There are many ways that Denver can score, and it doesn't even have to be the offense that does it. One defensive TD, one offensive TD, and 2 fgs for example, would be enough to win in a certain percentage of the times they played this game (even if its a small percentage, it needs to be accounted for).
I guess my point in regards to your original question is that a better question than the one that you are asking is, What percentage of the time does Carolina win with the players on the field? Because in order for it to be a good wager that number needs to be OVER 70% (at the -235 my book is offering). If you believe it is then by all means go for Carolina here...
What is silly? You not only didn't answer my question but you kinda proved a point. The point is yeah sure Denver could win. But the players on the field says Carolina wins 8 out of 10 times in my eyes. And you and others continue to prove my point. I'm still waiting to hear how Denver scores offensively on this defense.
I hardly proved your point at all, but you bring up a good one. The current line suggest that Carolina win 70% of the time. If you think that they win 80% like you say then it's a good bet. But if someone else thinks that Denver wins 35% of the time, then Denver ML is a good bet at the current price. So in that case, even though someone is giving Carolina a much better chance of winning, it still makes sense to wager on Denver at these numbers.
There are many ways that Denver can score, and it doesn't even have to be the offense that does it. One defensive TD, one offensive TD, and 2 fgs for example, would be enough to win in a certain percentage of the times they played this game (even if its a small percentage, it needs to be accounted for).
I guess my point in regards to your original question is that a better question than the one that you are asking is, What percentage of the time does Carolina win with the players on the field? Because in order for it to be a good wager that number needs to be OVER 70% (at the -235 my book is offering). If you believe it is then by all means go for Carolina here...
Mr.Q 27, the only real stats that matter to me in this matchup are these.......Turnover Comparison for the season
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Carolina +21
Denver -4
"The Defense Rests"!
Please go review my post as I argue against this, but essentially I have to diagree with you here as you are reading the box score pain and simple. Look at where the vast majority of these turnovers came from. Ill give you a hint ones name is Cousins ( on the road( and the other is a rookie Qb. Also Oswellier threw 6 picks so that number for Denver is a little off imo
Mr.Q 27, the only real stats that matter to me in this matchup are these.......Turnover Comparison for the season
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Carolina +21
Denver -4
"The Defense Rests"!
Please go review my post as I argue against this, but essentially I have to diagree with you here as you are reading the box score pain and simple. Look at where the vast majority of these turnovers came from. Ill give you a hint ones name is Cousins ( on the road( and the other is a rookie Qb. Also Oswellier threw 6 picks so that number for Denver is a little off imo
Please go review my post as I argue against this, but essentially I have to diagree with you here as you are reading the box score pain and simple. Look at where the vast majority of these turnovers came from. Ill give you a hint ones name is Cousins ( on the road( and the other is a rookie Qb. Also Oswellier threw 6 picks so that number for Denver is a little off imo
Ok you said 5 from cousins? Take those and Brock's away.
Please go review my post as I argue against this, but essentially I have to diagree with you here as you are reading the box score pain and simple. Look at where the vast majority of these turnovers came from. Ill give you a hint ones name is Cousins ( on the road( and the other is a rookie Qb. Also Oswellier threw 6 picks so that number for Denver is a little off imo
Ok you said 5 from cousins? Take those and Brock's away.
What is silly? You not only didn't answer my question but you kinda proved a point. The point is yeah sure Denver could win. But the players on the field says Carolina wins 8 out of 10 times in my eyes. And you and others continue to prove my point. I'm still waiting to hear how Denver scores offensively on this defense.
I do agree that Carolina would win 7-8 games if they did play 10 games.
That's the reason why I like NBA best out of 7 but in NFL you can't play that many games in a two weeks time. And Lebron would prbably have won twice as many titles if it was only decided by one game.
What is silly? You not only didn't answer my question but you kinda proved a point. The point is yeah sure Denver could win. But the players on the field says Carolina wins 8 out of 10 times in my eyes. And you and others continue to prove my point. I'm still waiting to hear how Denver scores offensively on this defense.
I do agree that Carolina would win 7-8 games if they did play 10 games.
That's the reason why I like NBA best out of 7 but in NFL you can't play that many games in a two weeks time. And Lebron would prbably have won twice as many titles if it was only decided by one game.
Peyton knows how to read a defense pre-snap. He will find the soft spots, manage the offense, protect the ball, and Denver will try to find balance to be methodical and move the chains. Carolina is not a defensive juggernaut, and they are not a team that is just going to shut you down, if you can find the soft spots.
On Defense:
Carolina is going to have major issues keeping the pass rush at bay. Their OL is quite suspect, especially in pass protection, and Denver will give them fits. This is really the area where this game will be decided. The Denver offense vs. Carolina defense is fairly predictable. Denver isn't going to light them up with big plays, but they are also not going to make mistakes. The game will be decided when Carolina's offense is on the field against Denver's defense, and if Denver is successful putting pressure on Cam, limiting the running game and stopping them on 3rd down the way they did against Pitt and NE, then Denver will win the game.
I guess you didn't care for my write-up... but I don't think you can call it any more accurately than that!
Peyton knows how to read a defense pre-snap. He will find the soft spots, manage the offense, protect the ball, and Denver will try to find balance to be methodical and move the chains. Carolina is not a defensive juggernaut, and they are not a team that is just going to shut you down, if you can find the soft spots.
On Defense:
Carolina is going to have major issues keeping the pass rush at bay. Their OL is quite suspect, especially in pass protection, and Denver will give them fits. This is really the area where this game will be decided. The Denver offense vs. Carolina defense is fairly predictable. Denver isn't going to light them up with big plays, but they are also not going to make mistakes. The game will be decided when Carolina's offense is on the field against Denver's defense, and if Denver is successful putting pressure on Cam, limiting the running game and stopping them on 3rd down the way they did against Pitt and NE, then Denver will win the game.
I guess you didn't care for my write-up... but I don't think you can call it any more accurately than that!
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