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    Gridophiles
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 1:00 PM ET #76

    WCG:  Picked some up earlier in the week.  Should have waited and got a much better price.  Not sure if the option folks have been keeping it in check or if this stock has been traded out and is now just waiting for news.
     
    HBAN:  My wife works for them, but just as a lowly teller.  Fortunately she didn't have much in ESOP and none in her 401k.  However, she has a lot of uninformed friends that work there that have 100% of their 401k in the stock, and needless to say, they are pretty pissed today. 
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    WCG:  Picked some up earlier in the week.  Should have waited and got a much better price.  Not sure if the option folks have been keeping it in check or if this stock has been traded out and is now just waiting for news.
     
    HBAN:  My wife works for them, but just as a lowly teller.  Fortunately she didn't have much in ESOP and none in her 401k.  However, she has a lot of uninformed friends that work there that have 100% of their 401k in the stock, and needless to say, they are pretty pissed today. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 1:17 PM ET #77

    Grid,

    WCG is slowing down volume wise..momentum players have moved on or are waiting for more news.

    HBAN, yeah but even before today it has been in the crapper..52 week low is bad news though.


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    Grid,

    WCG is slowing down volume wise..momentum players have moved on or are waiting for more news.

    HBAN, yeah but even before today it has been in the crapper..52 week low is bad news though.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:54 PM ET #78

    FSLR up 20 bucks today..completely on fire.
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    FSLR up 20 bucks today..completely on fire.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:58 PM ET #79

    The Arizona Republic
    Nov. 16, 2007 11:46 AM Financial regulators are investigating possible insider trading of Phoenix-based First Solar Inc. stock, according to the company.
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    The Arizona Republic
    Nov. 16, 2007 11:46 AM Financial regulators are investigating possible insider trading of Phoenix-based First Solar Inc. stock, according to the company.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 5:25 PM ET #80

    Vermeer,

    I need to research that..

    It would be a DEFINATE reason to short the stock or buy puts..
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    Vermeer,

    I need to research that..

    It would be a DEFINATE reason to short the stock or buy puts..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 7:12 PM ET #81

    FSLR in the cross-hairs now.  Interesting.  Hmmmmmmm.......
     
    Could be just another "buying opportunity," or a "selling short opportunity?" 
     
    The manipulators shall have a field day with this one.  I'd look for good ol' "Barron's" to get mighty negative sooner than later.
     
    FSLR is a freakin wild, wild, wild ride.  Not for the feint of heart.  This news can either make you a lot of money, or cost you a lot of money.  Either way, you have a heart attack.
     
    The bottom line for me, though, is this will take down SPWR "in sympathy."
     
     
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    FSLR in the cross-hairs now.  Interesting.  Hmmmmmmm.......
     
    Could be just another "buying opportunity," or a "selling short opportunity?" 
     
    The manipulators shall have a field day with this one.  I'd look for good ol' "Barron's" to get mighty negative sooner than later.
     
    FSLR is a freakin wild, wild, wild ride.  Not for the feint of heart.  This news can either make you a lot of money, or cost you a lot of money.  Either way, you have a heart attack.
     
    The bottom line for me, though, is this will take down SPWR "in sympathy."
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 7:15 PM ET #82

    And, with all the hand-wringing about the coming "Black Friday" during the next week beginning Monday Nov 19, I'd bet everything I have that the "market" will give us yet again another "entertaining week."
     
    Have a good weekend, people.
     
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    And, with all the hand-wringing about the coming "Black Friday" during the next week beginning Monday Nov 19, I'd bet everything I have that the "market" will give us yet again another "entertaining week."
     
    Have a good weekend, people.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 8:56 PM ET #83

    SPWR acting like crap today..definately shorts hopping on the weak sister in the group.

    That said it held in there decent until that last minute, it was up and then a market sell order knocked it a buck in no time flat.

    I am noticing that we should check out STP....good momentum and great numbers...  
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    SPWR acting like crap today..definately shorts hopping on the weak sister in the group.

    That said it held in there decent until that last minute, it was up and then a market sell order knocked it a buck in no time flat.

    I am noticing that we should check out STP....good momentum and great numbers...  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 10:25 PM ET #84


     I have looked at STP for some time.They seem solid to me.Even though I recoil at PEs in their range, it seems like a solid operation.

     Suntech also said Thursday it expects to reach its 1 gigawatt production capacity target by the end of 2008, two years ahead of its previous forecast.

     The question is can it live up to astronomical expectations?

     
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     I have looked at STP for some time.They seem solid to me.Even though I recoil at PEs in their range, it seems like a solid operation.

     Suntech also said Thursday it expects to reach its 1 gigawatt production capacity target by the end of 2008, two years ahead of its previous forecast.

     The question is can it live up to astronomical expectations?

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2007 - 12:14 AM ET #85

    For sure, guys......STP looks like it could be a monster, especially if "John Q 401 K" bails out on FSLR and SPWR and starts to pile on this ADR.
     
    The ADR thing bothers me, though, as I believe ADRs are ultimately nothing but vehicles designed by manipulators to totally f--k over the "American public" over the long haul.  But in the shorter term, STP could still rise from its present level before eventually becoming a dud----but that won't happen until all the American money has been suckered in-----and that is not the case at the moment----still a lot of money left to be fooled.
     
    The other thing that concerns me about STP is that there is not enough present short interest to really create the time bomb.  I'd like to see short interest close to 20% of the float, cause then the manipulators could create short squeeze panics.
     
    As long as there is a lot of worried negativity on STP's upcoming quarterly numbers, they'll surpass estimates.  But as soon as the public consensus starts thinking "the sky's the limit," then STP will fall short of estimates and whisper numbers, and its ticker price will get clobbered.
     
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    For sure, guys......STP looks like it could be a monster, especially if "John Q 401 K" bails out on FSLR and SPWR and starts to pile on this ADR.
     
    The ADR thing bothers me, though, as I believe ADRs are ultimately nothing but vehicles designed by manipulators to totally f--k over the "American public" over the long haul.  But in the shorter term, STP could still rise from its present level before eventually becoming a dud----but that won't happen until all the American money has been suckered in-----and that is not the case at the moment----still a lot of money left to be fooled.
     
    The other thing that concerns me about STP is that there is not enough present short interest to really create the time bomb.  I'd like to see short interest close to 20% of the float, cause then the manipulators could create short squeeze panics.
     
    As long as there is a lot of worried negativity on STP's upcoming quarterly numbers, they'll surpass estimates.  But as soon as the public consensus starts thinking "the sky's the limit," then STP will fall short of estimates and whisper numbers, and its ticker price will get clobbered.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2007 - 5:37 PM ET #86

     I am wondering if there is not a way of trading on the Rio Tinto/ BHP situation. The Chinese have even entered into the act, buying up shares of Rio Tinto. WSC got any notions on the way to best make a quick dime off the buyout possibilities here?



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     I am wondering if there is not a way of trading on the Rio Tinto/ BHP situation. The Chinese have even entered into the act, buying up shares of Rio Tinto. WSC got any notions on the way to best make a quick dime off the buyout possibilities here?



     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2007 - 6:57 PM ET #87

    Vermeer,

    Give me more of a rundown on the situation and I will see what I can think of...
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    Vermeer,

    Give me more of a rundown on the situation and I will see what I can think of...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2007 - 10:26 AM ET #88

    The world's biggest mining company BHP Billiton on Thursday made a startling revelation that it had made an offer to buy rival Rio Tinto, which was subsequently snubbed, laying to rest months of speculation.

    The news sent Rio Tinto's stock sharply northward, shooting 26% higher to trade at 5 497 pence a share at 13:50.

    The deal would be BHP Billiton's first significant acquisition since 2005, and would be an explosive start for new CEO South African-born Marius Kloppers, who took over from Chip Goodyear, on October 1.

    Rio Tinto later stated that the offer was for three BHP Billiton shares for each of its own, which "significantly undervalues Rio Tinto and its prospects".



      Later on China was reported to have started buying up a load of RIO shares, as they are afraid of the merger of companies that would essentially control iron ore prices to them.



    A merged BHP-Rio Tinto would control more than one-quarter of the global supply of iron ore, a key raw material for Chinese steelmakers supplying the world's fastest-growing major economy. According to data compiled by UBS AG, China will consume 59% of the world's iron-ore production, 40% of aluminum production and 29% of refined copper by 2012.

    The possible deal "definitely matters to the restructuring of ore resources. ... We are highly concerned," says Chen Ying, chief financial officer of Baoshan Iron & Steel Co., or Baosteel, China's biggest steelmaker in terms of capacity.



     

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    The world's biggest mining company BHP Billiton on Thursday made a startling revelation that it had made an offer to buy rival Rio Tinto, which was subsequently snubbed, laying to rest months of speculation.

    The news sent Rio Tinto's stock sharply northward, shooting 26% higher to trade at 5 497 pence a share at 13:50.

    The deal would be BHP Billiton's first significant acquisition since 2005, and would be an explosive start for new CEO South African-born Marius Kloppers, who took over from Chip Goodyear, on October 1.

    Rio Tinto later stated that the offer was for three BHP Billiton shares for each of its own, which "significantly undervalues Rio Tinto and its prospects".



      Later on China was reported to have started buying up a load of RIO shares, as they are afraid of the merger of companies that would essentially control iron ore prices to them.



    A merged BHP-Rio Tinto would control more than one-quarter of the global supply of iron ore, a key raw material for Chinese steelmakers supplying the world's fastest-growing major economy. According to data compiled by UBS AG, China will consume 59% of the world's iron-ore production, 40% of aluminum production and 29% of refined copper by 2012.

    The possible deal "definitely matters to the restructuring of ore resources. ... We are highly concerned," says Chen Ying, chief financial officer of Baoshan Iron & Steel Co., or Baosteel, China's biggest steelmaker in terms of capacity.



     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2007 - 9:32 PM ET #89

    Hey guys I just had a quick question and would appreciate any insight as you  all seem to know a lot about what your talking about. I am 20 years old and am looking to learn a lot more about the stock market. I am trying to do some reading as I am really a novice about everything related to the stock market. Have a basic background in investing.

    Was wondering if you guys had any good books or papers to recommend I read to get a solid background? Thanks for any input
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    Hey guys I just had a quick question and would appreciate any insight as you  all seem to know a lot about what your talking about. I am 20 years old and am looking to learn a lot more about the stock market. I am trying to do some reading as I am really a novice about everything related to the stock market. Have a basic background in investing.

    Was wondering if you guys had any good books or papers to recommend I read to get a solid background? Thanks for any input
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2007 - 10:12 PM ET #90

    The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham.Read it about ten times.Then read it some more.
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    The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham.Read it about ten times.Then read it some more.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2007 - 10:18 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by acf5026:

    Hey guys I just had a quick question and would appreciate any insight as you  all seem to know a lot about what your talking about. I am 20 years old and am looking to learn a lot more about the stock market. I am trying to do some reading as I am really a novice about everything related to the stock market. Have a basic background in investing.

    Was wondering if you guys had any good books or papers to recommend I read to get a solid background? Thanks for any input

     

    Reminisces of a Stock Operator, the bible. I read it once a year at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acf5026:

    Hey guys I just had a quick question and would appreciate any insight as you  all seem to know a lot about what your talking about. I am 20 years old and am looking to learn a lot more about the stock market. I am trying to do some reading as I am really a novice about everything related to the stock market. Have a basic background in investing.

    Was wondering if you guys had any good books or papers to recommend I read to get a solid background? Thanks for any input

     

    Reminisces of a Stock Operator, the bible. I read it once a year at least.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 12:17 AM ET #92

    Vermeer,

    I did a little reading and I cannot see this deal happening..regulatory hurdles would make it impossible and RTP's share price is too high for any longer term options.

    I dont know how I would play it to be honest..

    If Rio went for BHP I would short the suitor..a junior taking over a larger firm doesnt sit well with me. And since Rio rejected BHP I dont know where this could go?
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    Vermeer,

    I did a little reading and I cannot see this deal happening..regulatory hurdles would make it impossible and RTP's share price is too high for any longer term options.

    I dont know how I would play it to be honest..

    If Rio went for BHP I would short the suitor..a junior taking over a larger firm doesnt sit well with me. And since Rio rejected BHP I dont know where this could go?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 6:51 AM ET #93

    Citigroup cut to a SELL by Goldman Sachs...bet it makes em all teary eyed to do so...heheh

      Yeah, I could not figure out any way of playing it although I think something there does get done, some way, some how.
    Not helping RIO any at the moment even though it boosted Rio Tinto.

      As to the USD:one has to feel it is only a matter of months before OPEC officially decouples oil from the USD. After the pols get finished demonizing the Saudis et al, it will probably just be a matter of weeks.
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    Citigroup cut to a SELL by Goldman Sachs...bet it makes em all teary eyed to do so...heheh

      Yeah, I could not figure out any way of playing it although I think something there does get done, some way, some how.
    Not helping RIO any at the moment even though it boosted Rio Tinto.

      As to the USD:one has to feel it is only a matter of months before OPEC officially decouples oil from the USD. After the pols get finished demonizing the Saudis et al, it will probably just be a matter of weeks.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 6:56 AM ET #94

    Oh on the positive side the Chinese would like, for obvious reasons, to see a stronger dollar. As mentioned before, the decisions of western fate no longer rest in western hands...
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    Oh on the positive side the Chinese would like, for obvious reasons, to see a stronger dollar. As mentioned before, the decisions of western fate no longer rest in western hands...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 7:12 AM ET #95


     And CC: You are not alone..this guy has been bullish the USD for weeks...

    The dollar has begun to test some potential support and the recent collapse of the Canadian dollar may provide a leading indicator to a strengthening in the U.S. dollar in the coming weeks.  I remain a buyer of the dollar and seller of the euro, pound and Canadian over intermediate and long term time horizons.

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     And CC: You are not alone..this guy has been bullish the USD for weeks...

    The dollar has begun to test some potential support and the recent collapse of the Canadian dollar may provide a leading indicator to a strengthening in the U.S. dollar in the coming weeks.  I remain a buyer of the dollar and seller of the euro, pound and Canadian over intermediate and long term time horizons.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 10:44 AM ET #96

    Market looking like crap again today..slow slow drip lower lower lower with little buying.

    CFC below 11, my IMB below 10, C of course, BAC etc all financials getting killed..

    Not much green on the screen.  
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    Market looking like crap again today..slow slow drip lower lower lower with little buying.

    CFC below 11, my IMB below 10, C of course, BAC etc all financials getting killed..

    Not much green on the screen.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 12:38 PM ET #97

    Guys might want to read up on this DISH/ T deal which should be announced soon.

    Might have 10 bucks of action in it..and you could also buy options out a few months if leverage is what you are looking for.


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    Guys might want to read up on this DISH/ T deal which should be announced soon.

    Might have 10 bucks of action in it..and you could also buy options out a few months if leverage is what you are looking for.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 1:03 PM ET #98

    Let me add this caviat..

    If T does this deal with cash and stock, it will not be good for either stock..and looking at the balance sheet they dont have enough cash to do a full cash deal..

    So that might be why the stock isnt moving into the high 50s with this leak on the deal.
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    Let me add this caviat..

    If T does this deal with cash and stock, it will not be good for either stock..and looking at the balance sheet they dont have enough cash to do a full cash deal..

    So that might be why the stock isnt moving into the high 50s with this leak on the deal.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 1:15 PM ET #99

    S & P under 1440, Russells down and Transports confirming ...major correction in the works.

    I have, for some time, thought we were in a recession...the numbers are catching up with at least what has been observable in this area on many fronts.

     SKF, SDS upwards. I see 12,800 on the Dow very fast, and lower.Hope I am wrong.

     Both the Conference Board's index of consumer confidence and a similar survey from Reuters/University of Michigan have plummeted to two-year lows. These usually are inverse price of gasoline.


     

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    S & P under 1440, Russells down and Transports confirming ...major correction in the works.

    I have, for some time, thought we were in a recession...the numbers are catching up with at least what has been observable in this area on many fronts.

     SKF, SDS upwards. I see 12,800 on the Dow very fast, and lower.Hope I am wrong.

     Both the Conference Board's index of consumer confidence and a similar survey from Reuters/University of Michigan have plummeted to two-year lows. These usually are inverse price of gasoline.


     

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2007 - 1:23 PM ET #100

    Today may be the beginning of total capitulation in the financial ticker symbols.
     
    What we want to see is people jumping out of windows.....then we got the capitulation day.
     
    But if the selling stops without extreme terror selling and sheer panic, then we got further to fall.
     
    About a little more than a month ago, I was holding short these names:
     
    COF
    C
    CTX
    SPY
     
    I was terrified of a financial bailout package and covered all shorts for a profit so small it is f--ing embarassing with what "could be" on the table.  And today, I am the one feeling like garbage.  I just really thought some sort of bailout package was coming down.
     
    So yeah, sounds bad, but gdmf-ing right I want to literally see people jumping out of windows.
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    Today may be the beginning of total capitulation in the financial ticker symbols.
     
    What we want to see is people jumping out of windows.....then we got the capitulation day.
     
    But if the selling stops without extreme terror selling and sheer panic, then we got further to fall.
     
    About a little more than a month ago, I was holding short these names:
     
    COF
    C
    CTX
    SPY
     
    I was terrified of a financial bailout package and covered all shorts for a profit so small it is f--ing embarassing with what "could be" on the table.  And today, I am the one feeling like garbage.  I just really thought some sort of bailout package was coming down.
     
    So yeah, sounds bad, but gdmf-ing right I want to literally see people jumping out of windows.
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