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    Tulane and James Madison? I'm so confused

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    Kaname484
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2025 - 6:38 PM ET #1

    I always thought it to be the best teams to make the Playoffs.  This isn't March Madness where you may have a potential high seed small conference upset. Size matters in football.  This isn't a bs exhibition bowl where you don't actually have something to play for.  Has the format always been this way what was the committee thinking?  ND would destroy both of those teams.  What was the logic behind it

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    I always thought it to be the best teams to make the Playoffs.  This isn't March Madness where you may have a potential high seed small conference upset. Size matters in football.  This isn't a bs exhibition bowl where you don't actually have something to play for.  Has the format always been this way what was the committee thinking?  ND would destroy both of those teams.  What was the logic behind it

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2025 - 6:49 PM ET #2

    the logic is the power 4 conference champions would all be in, along with the highest ranked group of 5 champion. blame the acc...not the format. 

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    the logic is the power 4 conference champions would all be in, along with the highest ranked group of 5 champion. blame the acc...not the format. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2025 - 7:50 PM ET #3

    It’s messed up -both Vanderbilt and Notre Dame deserved to be there,not Alabama

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    It’s messed up -both Vanderbilt and Notre Dame deserved to be there,not Alabama

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2025 - 8:34 PM ET #4

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     Honestly? ND has skirted by all these years without being aligned to a conference, and this never having to play a conference championship. They have always been given the benefit of the doubt, especially pre season polls, yet it never works out for them. Yet every year they are allowed into the playoffs with a weak schedule and never playing an extra game. It finally caught up with them, frankly, on a year in which they have some talent. Can thank previous years ND teams for that. At least that’s how I see it 

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     Honestly? ND has skirted by all these years without being aligned to a conference, and this never having to play a conference championship. They have always been given the benefit of the doubt, especially pre season polls, yet it never works out for them. Yet every year they are allowed into the playoffs with a weak schedule and never playing an extra game. It finally caught up with them, frankly, on a year in which they have some talent. Can thank previous years ND teams for that. At least that’s how I see it 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2025 - 8:35 PM ET #5

    Also, I’ve seen this play out before in other sports. Don’t sleep on the smaller teams. When the entire world is backing one team, prob best to go the other way. 

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    Also, I’ve seen this play out before in other sports. Don’t sleep on the smaller teams. When the entire world is backing one team, prob best to go the other way. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2025 - 11:19 PM ET #6

    Why not do like March Madness. Let Nd, Van, Tulane and J Mad to play for the play-in for the last 2 spots. That should solve the problem???

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    Why not do like March Madness. Let Nd, Van, Tulane and J Mad to play for the play-in for the last 2 spots. That should solve the problem???

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2025 - 10:26 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbeagle:

    It’s messed up -both Vanderbilt and Notre Dame deserved to be there,not Alabama
    vandy nor dame's resume is better than bama's though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbeagle:

    It’s messed up -both Vanderbilt and Notre Dame deserved to be there,not Alabama
    vandy nor dame's resume is better than bama's though

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2025 - 11:05 AM ET #8

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     thank you, someone had to say it, not the committees fault jmu won there games doing there job and the acc didnt

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    @monkeybutt

     thank you, someone had to say it, not the committees fault jmu won there games doing there job and the acc didnt

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2025 - 11:16 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by football_007:

    Why not do like March Madness. Let Nd, Van, Tulane and J Mad to play for the play-in for the last 2 spots. That should solve the problem???

    just have a 16 team playoff like FCS. done and done.

    JMU and Tulane got in because the CFP didnt anticipate the ACC being mostly terrible this year.  CFP needs to alter the rules until they make it a 16 team playoff.

    and Notre Dame didnt really deserve to be there.  only two good teams they played, they lost to (TAMU and Miami). only decent team they beat was USC at home.  hardly impressive.  Miami beat Notre Dame h2h. ND needs to join a conference.  it's really that easy.

    Bama finished 2nd in the SEC which should be applauded. The team they fought for one of the last spots was Vanderbilt, who they beat SU.  I dont think they are particularly great but I think they did just enough to grab a spot.

    I'd rather see Vanderbilt in over Miami, but CFP was going to ensure ACC got a team in

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    Quote Originally Posted by football_007:

    Why not do like March Madness. Let Nd, Van, Tulane and J Mad to play for the play-in for the last 2 spots. That should solve the problem???

    just have a 16 team playoff like FCS. done and done.

    JMU and Tulane got in because the CFP didnt anticipate the ACC being mostly terrible this year.  CFP needs to alter the rules until they make it a 16 team playoff.

    and Notre Dame didnt really deserve to be there.  only two good teams they played, they lost to (TAMU and Miami). only decent team they beat was USC at home.  hardly impressive.  Miami beat Notre Dame h2h. ND needs to join a conference.  it's really that easy.

    Bama finished 2nd in the SEC which should be applauded. The team they fought for one of the last spots was Vanderbilt, who they beat SU.  I dont think they are particularly great but I think they did just enough to grab a spot.

    I'd rather see Vanderbilt in over Miami, but CFP was going to ensure ACC got a team in

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2025 - 4:19 PM ET #10

    8 teams max the best teams get in.if ur the 10th best team u should have a chance to be number 1

     

    they let too many in in every sport,money talks

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    8 teams max the best teams get in.if ur the 10th best team u should have a chance to be number 1

     

    they let too many in in every sport,money talks

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2025 - 4:27 PM ET #11

    @Kaname484

     It's the five highest ranked conference champions. The committee's only mistake was a HUGE one. Notre Dame should've been in before Alabama, hands down! The Tide lost to 5-7 Florida St., should've lost to 5-7 Auburn and got their asses handed to them in the SEC title game.

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     It's the five highest ranked conference champions. The committee's only mistake was a HUGE one. Notre Dame should've been in before Alabama, hands down! The Tide lost to 5-7 Florida St., should've lost to 5-7 Auburn and got their asses handed to them in the SEC title game.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2025 - 9:17 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Starnes:

    @Kaname484  Honestly? ND has skirted by all these years without being aligned to a conference, and this never having to play a conference championship. They have always been given the benefit of the doubt, especially pre season polls, yet it never works out for them. Yet every year they are allowed into the playoffs with a weak schedule and never playing an extra game. It finally caught up with them, frankly, on a year in which they have some talent. Can thank previous years ND teams for that. At least that’s how I see it

    I understand sending a message to ND but increasing the format to 12 was to actually increase their chances for them to get in because most teams who are in didn't win the conf title one got steam rolled and some didn't even have the chance to participate.  If not ND then Vandy or Texas  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starnes:

    @Kaname484  Honestly? ND has skirted by all these years without being aligned to a conference, and this never having to play a conference championship. They have always been given the benefit of the doubt, especially pre season polls, yet it never works out for them. Yet every year they are allowed into the playoffs with a weak schedule and never playing an extra game. It finally caught up with them, frankly, on a year in which they have some talent. Can thank previous years ND teams for that. At least that’s how I see it

    I understand sending a message to ND but increasing the format to 12 was to actually increase their chances for them to get in because most teams who are in didn't win the conf title one got steam rolled and some didn't even have the chance to participate.  If not ND then Vandy or Texas  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2025 - 8:58 PM ET #13

    A disaster as expected this made no sense everyone in that committee should be fired they punished the fans by producing this sh** show and the amount of money and ratings that could have been had by having in a Texas or ND I will never understand what the mission really was

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    A disaster as expected this made no sense everyone in that committee should be fired they punished the fans by producing this sh** show and the amount of money and ratings that could have been had by having in a Texas or ND I will never understand what the mission really was

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2025 - 9:03 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Starnes:

    Also, I’ve seen this play out before in other sports. Don’t sleep on the smaller teams. When the entire world is backing one team, prob best to go the other way.

    Your thinking about basketball it doesn't work like that in football in games as big as this where you have 5'10 200 guys trying to move and block guys 6'8 280

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starnes:

    Also, I’ve seen this play out before in other sports. Don’t sleep on the smaller teams. When the entire world is backing one team, prob best to go the other way.

    Your thinking about basketball it doesn't work like that in football in games as big as this where you have 5'10 200 guys trying to move and block guys 6'8 280

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaname484:

    A disaster as expected this made no sense everyone in that committee should be fired they punished the fans by producing this sh** show and the amount of money and ratings that could have been had by having in a Texas or ND I will never understand what the mission really was

     

    the committee didn't decide to put in jmu and tulane. they were automatic bids based on the rules coming into the season. the only argument would have been miami and bama...but they both proved they are deserving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaname484:

    A disaster as expected this made no sense everyone in that committee should be fired they punished the fans by producing this sh** show and the amount of money and ratings that could have been had by having in a Texas or ND I will never understand what the mission really was

     

    the committee didn't decide to put in jmu and tulane. they were automatic bids based on the rules coming into the season. the only argument would have been miami and bama...but they both proved they are deserving.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2025 - 9:28 PM ET #16

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     Alabama deserved to be there what are you an idiot?  Beat Oklahoma on their home field.  Yes Alabama deserved to be there

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     Alabama deserved to be there what are you an idiot?  Beat Oklahoma on their home field.  Yes Alabama deserved to be there

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2025 - 10:20 PM ET #17

    Alabama plays a brutal strength of schedule. 

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    Alabama plays a brutal strength of schedule. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2025 - 4:22 AM ET #18

    The format or not its needs to be fixed you can't have weaker teams who are predicted to be dominated and it be just that because of a format.  If I felt like those teams had a shot then no thread from me. A snooze fest

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    The format or not its needs to be fixed you can't have weaker teams who are predicted to be dominated and it be just that because of a format.  If I felt like those teams had a shot then no thread from me. A snooze fest

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2025 - 4:34 AM ET #19

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     i am sure it will be fixed going into next year. they weren't counting on a 5 loss acc champion when they made the 5 highest ranked conference champ's automatic bids. but the rules were set going into this season. wasn't a way around it this year. the group of 5 needs 1 automatic bid. 

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     i am sure it will be fixed going into next year. they weren't counting on a 5 loss acc champion when they made the 5 highest ranked conference champ's automatic bids. but the rules were set going into this season. wasn't a way around it this year. the group of 5 needs 1 automatic bid. 

     
     
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