Alright a little more time this week so let's put out our first B1G ratings now that we have 3 weeks of data and *most* teams have played at least one competent team this season. SOS is really important at this point because the numbers can be heavily skewed if a team has beat up on 3 cupcakes to date as this is a yardage differential formula. My goal is to simplify it as much as possible - team A out gains team B then chances are there more opportunities to score points and less for the opposition. Obviously in sports not all things are equal. Home field, injuries, penalties, TURNOVERS, competition gaps, etc are all VERY important. This is just a starting point for breaking down games at the start of a week.
Can't break out of this win one, lose one trend so hopefully conference play gets things going
Game picks: 8-8 Props: 1-0
FWIW i agree with damn near none of these positions but numbers are numbers at this stage of the game
Week 4 (SOS to date is in parentheses) 1. Nebraska (100) 2. USC +3.9 (109) 3. Indiana +7.3 (117) 4. Washington +8.8 (128) 5. Oregon +9.3 (99) 6. Michigan +16.4 (30) 7. Penn St +16.9 (134) 8. Iowa +20.6 (80) 9. Minnesota +20.9 (93) 10. OSU +22.6 (49) 11. Illinois +30 (101) 12. Purdue +30.5 (54) 13. Wisconsin +30.7 (15) 14. Maryland +32.4 (131) 15. MSU +35.6 (118) 16. Rutgers +37.4 (121) 17. UCLA +51 (52) 18. NW +52.8 (10)
These will obviously change pretty significantly in the next few weeks as we begin H2H games but theres definitely some red flags for some teams who you typically see dominate the box scores. I'll use the obvious one with OSU at #10. Last year the national champion buckeyes were +175 net yards per game which is so dominant over 16 games when you consider a schedule of Oregon x 2, Penn St, Michigan, Indiana, Texas, Tennessee, ND. This year through 3 games down to +129 ypg. Still good but against a Ohio, Texas, Grambling State schedule. Initially seemed fine given Texas in there....but who is texas at this point? They have a serious issue at QB. Point is... in week 4 these numbers shouldn't be the gospel but might offer some insight into over value vs under value based on name that will offer the exact opposite later in the season as we get more results. Will take a look at some lines and go from there... GL this week!
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Alright a little more time this week so let's put out our first B1G ratings now that we have 3 weeks of data and *most* teams have played at least one competent team this season. SOS is really important at this point because the numbers can be heavily skewed if a team has beat up on 3 cupcakes to date as this is a yardage differential formula. My goal is to simplify it as much as possible - team A out gains team B then chances are there more opportunities to score points and less for the opposition. Obviously in sports not all things are equal. Home field, injuries, penalties, TURNOVERS, competition gaps, etc are all VERY important. This is just a starting point for breaking down games at the start of a week.
Can't break out of this win one, lose one trend so hopefully conference play gets things going
Game picks: 8-8 Props: 1-0
FWIW i agree with damn near none of these positions but numbers are numbers at this stage of the game
Week 4 (SOS to date is in parentheses) 1. Nebraska (100) 2. USC +3.9 (109) 3. Indiana +7.3 (117) 4. Washington +8.8 (128) 5. Oregon +9.3 (99) 6. Michigan +16.4 (30) 7. Penn St +16.9 (134) 8. Iowa +20.6 (80) 9. Minnesota +20.9 (93) 10. OSU +22.6 (49) 11. Illinois +30 (101) 12. Purdue +30.5 (54) 13. Wisconsin +30.7 (15) 14. Maryland +32.4 (131) 15. MSU +35.6 (118) 16. Rutgers +37.4 (121) 17. UCLA +51 (52) 18. NW +52.8 (10)
These will obviously change pretty significantly in the next few weeks as we begin H2H games but theres definitely some red flags for some teams who you typically see dominate the box scores. I'll use the obvious one with OSU at #10. Last year the national champion buckeyes were +175 net yards per game which is so dominant over 16 games when you consider a schedule of Oregon x 2, Penn St, Michigan, Indiana, Texas, Tennessee, ND. This year through 3 games down to +129 ypg. Still good but against a Ohio, Texas, Grambling State schedule. Initially seemed fine given Texas in there....but who is texas at this point? They have a serious issue at QB. Point is... in week 4 these numbers shouldn't be the gospel but might offer some insight into over value vs under value based on name that will offer the exact opposite later in the season as we get more results. Will take a look at some lines and go from there... GL this week!
Yeah, I wouldn’t rush to judge the offense just yet. Remember, this was Julian Sayin’s first career start and it came against Texas, not exactly a cupcake opener. Ryan Day even admitted they played it safe with him:
“We probably could have opened it up later in the game, but his first start, we didn’t want to do that to him.” – Ryan Day
That’s why the game plan looked more conservative than what we’re used to. Brian Hartline called what Day described as an “unselfish game,” leaning on the defense and not asking Sayin to take unnecessary risks.
So yeah, the numbers aren’t flashy compared to last year, but given the circumstances, it was about keeping the kid comfortable, protecting the ball, and getting out with a win. I’d expect the playbook to open up a lot more as conference play begins. Ohio State has a tendency to start off slow.
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Yeah, I wouldn’t rush to judge the offense just yet. Remember, this was Julian Sayin’s first career start and it came against Texas, not exactly a cupcake opener. Ryan Day even admitted they played it safe with him:
“We probably could have opened it up later in the game, but his first start, we didn’t want to do that to him.” – Ryan Day
That’s why the game plan looked more conservative than what we’re used to. Brian Hartline called what Day described as an “unselfish game,” leaning on the defense and not asking Sayin to take unnecessary risks.
So yeah, the numbers aren’t flashy compared to last year, but given the circumstances, it was about keeping the kid comfortable, protecting the ball, and getting out with a win. I’d expect the playbook to open up a lot more as conference play begins. Ohio State has a tendency to start off slow.
Anybody is going to be fine throwing the ball to that group of receivers. I like Sayin really have zero reservations about him. The run game is a concerning though. It’s a different team than 2024 there is no a debate there.
2024 first 3 games didn’t have a Texas on it but they were +372 ypg compared to 129 ypg this year so not really sure what to make of that always start slow statement. Texas is a very good defensive team. Arch was a train wreck in week 1 there’s no other way to say it & just put up an 11/25 game vs UTEP. At this point I’m not even sure he’s a major D1 caliber QB.
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Anybody is going to be fine throwing the ball to that group of receivers. I like Sayin really have zero reservations about him. The run game is a concerning though. It’s a different team than 2024 there is no a debate there.
2024 first 3 games didn’t have a Texas on it but they were +372 ypg compared to 129 ypg this year so not really sure what to make of that always start slow statement. Texas is a very good defensive team. Arch was a train wreck in week 1 there’s no other way to say it & just put up an 11/25 game vs UTEP. At this point I’m not even sure he’s a major D1 caliber QB.
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