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Hear ya gb...
at least the N.Y. Pets pulled out a slim victory...but everything you mentioned really makes one wonder WTF is going on !!!
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You could be right b2w...perhaps they are simply going through a situation which has never yet occurred in the history of MLB.
A discovery of "smart money" properly placed and the jig would certainly be up. However, we can put men on the moon, land on Mars, we have vice and outright theft of the American people by the people in the highest echelons of our political system... and some people still believe that a sporting event can't be "rigged"? They won't lose both games today and tomorrow as that would be so overtly obvious that the Feds would swoop down on them like a hoard of hungry buzzards. However if they lose even just today's game I cry "FIX" !!! I may be overcharging but that's my two cents worth !!! |
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Quote Originally Posted by lapi7: Something's VERY "screwy" with the Mets !!! I'm betting every last dollar I have on Houston today !!! Even w Dickey on the mound...THE METS WILL LOSE !!!
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Something's VERY "screwy" with the Mets !!!
I'm betting every last dollar I have on Houston today !!! |
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Just as a matter of trivia.
I have MLB closing line stats going back to 1988. I'm just starting to check but I am willing to wager that no team since 1988 or perhaps in history has lost in the following manner: 1) All 5 games played AT HOME 2) The home team is favored by -150 to -235 or more IN EVERY GAME 3) The home team has scored an grand TOTAL of only 6 runs in all five games giving them an average of only 1.2 runs PER GAME 4) The home team is playing the two WORST TEAMS in the entire MLB roster of both AL and NL 4) So far the only team that I can find IN HISTORY to boast such a miserable (perhaps rigged or cheating) record is the New York Mets. They've already lost 5 in a row at home to Colorado and one to Houston so far. If Houston sweeps them over the next two games then an internal investigation should be launched immediately because I know of Pee-Wee league teams that could win some of these games. Something smells rotten in the Citi Field. |
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How incredibly bizarre !!!
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When ( y + z ) / 2 = X The result is the list being completed. Assuming a player bets nothing but black (red/black proposition) and black can be expected to hit 47.37% of the time, but the system only requires that it hit 33.34% of the time, it can be said that black only need hit approximately 70.38% of the time (33.34/47.37) it can generally be expected to in order for the system to prevail. An obvious downfall to the system is bankroll, because the more losses sustained by the player, the greater the amount being bet on each turn (as well as the greater the amount lost overall) is. Consider the following list: 10 10 20 20 20 10 10 If a player were to bet black and lose four times in a row, the amounts bet would be: $20, $30, $40, and $50. By taking these four consecutive losses, the player has already lost $140 and is betting $60 more on the next bet. Consecutive losses, or an inordinate amount of losses to wins can also cause table limits to come into play. Occasionally, a player following this system will come to a point where he can no longer make the next bet as demanded by the system due to table limits. One work-around for this problem is simply to move to a higher limit table, or a player can take the next number that should be bet, divide it by two and simply add it to the list twice. The problem with the latter option is that every time a player commits such a play, it will infinitesimally increase the percentage of spins a player must win to complete the system. The reason this is so is because the player is adding two numbers (which both will be crossed out in the event of wins) where only one loss was sustained. To prove this, if a player were to play the Labouchère System the same way with the exception being that the player always added half of the wager lost to the bottom of the list twice for every wager lost where: x = Number of Wins y = Number of Losses Z = Numbers Originally on the List When: y + (z/2) = x The result is the list being completed. The player would actually have to win in excess of 50% of the time (the actual percentage of wins necessary, given x and y, being dependent on z) in order to complete the list, or more than the player could actually be expected to win. |
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Quote Originally Posted by slc5610: explain the labby line it's kinda difficult to explain in a few lines or a paragraph. It's basically a division and cancellation system...but here...I'll let Wikipedia do the talking...Hope this helps. The Labouchère system, also called the cancellation system or split martingale, is a gambling strategy used in roulette. The user of such a strategy decides before playing how much The theory behind this strategy is that since the player is crossing two numbers off of the list (win) for every number added (loss) that the player can complete the list, (crossing out all numbers) thereby winning the desired amount even though the player does not need to win as much as expected for this to occur. It should be mentioned that the Labouchère System is meant to be applied to even money Roulette propositions such as Even/Odd, Red/Black or 1-18/19-36. When any of these bets are made in the game of Roulette, a spin resulting in a, "0," or, "00," results in a loss, so even though the payout is even money, the odds are clearly not 50/50. The Labouchère System attempts to offset these odds. If a player were to play any one of the above propositions, there are eighteen individual results which result in a win for that player and (for an Theoretically, because the player is cancelling out two numbers on the list for every win, and adding only one number for every loss, the player needs to have his proposition come at least 33.34% to eventually complete the list. For example, if the list starts with seven numbers and the player wins five times and loses three (62.5% winning percentage) the list is completed and the player wins the desired amount, if the list starts with seven numbers and the player wins 43,600 times and loses 87,193 times (33.34% winning percentage) the list completes and the player wins. A formula to understand this is as follows: Where x = Number of Wins y = Number of Losses Z = Numbers Originally on the List Cont. below |
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There is still a lot of baseball left in the season.
I, personally, would minimize my losses by implementing a labby line or two and recouping my losses slowly. Then I would wager larger units on the A games. I don't believe that I "MUST" profit a unit for each and every series I play. If I lose the A games I use the upcoming B & C games to recover my losses. Overall you should come out ahead for the season using this strategy.
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Amazing !!!
Pittsburgh has scored only 2 runs in 18 innings and is going to lose to the lowly Cubs again at home ??? I MUST be living on the wrong planet !!!
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MY MISTAKE...It was posted on Covers.com as a 22 run 1st inning. The post was up for at least 1 hour as I kept checking back on it. Sorry for the past pre posting error... Ahhh...the wonders of modern technology... |
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MY MISTAKE...It was posted on Covers.com as a 22 run 1st inning. The post was up for at least 1 hour as I kept checking back on it. Sorry for the past pre posting error... Ahhh...the wonders of modern technology... Quote Originally Posted by lapi7:
A WORLD RECORD 22 RUNS SCORED IN THE TOP OF THE FIRST BY THE YANKS...you just MIGHT have won this game Riceboi. Naturally, I didn't play this game. If I had the Yanks would have scored ZERO runs in the 1st. Oh well... |
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Quote Originally Posted by Riceboi: fuck it, i'm in. Game D, let's get it on! lol A WORLD RECORD 22 RUNS SCORED IN THE TOP OF THE FIRST BY THE YANKS...you just MIGHT have won this game Riceboi. Naturally, I didn't play this game. If I had the Yanks would have scored ZERO runs in the 1st. Oh well... |
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Kudos for all your hard work and a sincere "Thank You" to Waytogreen, bettor2win, BookieCrusher88, DegenGamble for your helpful insights.I think I've got a full grasp on this now and I REALLY appreciate it.
Regarding Post All Star Game...I do understand that the qualifying RPI parameters change to VISITORS 42 and HOME 35. I'l also be looking at some of the "unofficial plays" that B2W and others might suggest. Everybody have a GREAT All Star Break...see you guys back on the 13th.
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Quote Originally Posted by BookieCrusher88: Lapi7, when a series starts, we only take the RPI of the A game and even if the A and B game loses and the RPI drops, we still take them until the series ends. As long as the RPI qualifies, we dont mind if the RPI number drops within the chase if the series. I hope I clarified your query. Hi BC88...yes...thank you...your explanation helps A LOT and I appreciate it. However, my confusion about games that are plays one day and NOT plays the next day comes directly from CanisMajor's spreadsheet thread. In post #44 (page 2) bigdog66 asks: "Where is SF & NYM?" (which were listed as plays the day before) In post45 (page 2) CanisMajor answers: "SF and NYM are not showing today because they do not meet the criteria. RPI and Standings changed overnight as they always do. Looking at SF for, RPI Edge is 34, required is 42. I hope this clears up any confusion." Well, this is what caused me the confusion in the first place. It seemed to me that plays were being played on days that they qualified and terminated if they didn't qualify the next day. Please look at it yourself and see if it appears that way to you too. https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=101332893 Again...any insight and help from you BC88 (or anybody else) is really appreciated well in advance |
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Oh...sorry...and so not to confuse anybody I am much more interested in the actual rules of the system rather than the spreadsheet although I can greatly appreciate how much time and effort was put into it.
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Hi All...I'm relatively new to all this so any help is appreciated. I've read through most of this thread (no easy task) and I'm still a little confused about a few rules.
I've noticed (at least on the spreadsheet, not in the actual rules that I printed out) that if a team qualifies for a series play we start with game A. Now let's say that we lose game A. Then I noticed that if the RPI numbers change overnight and the next day that the same team that you bet game A on no longer qualifies that you STOP betting. So there would be no bet on game B. So what happens to the money outlay that you lost on game A? Do you simply take the loss? Am I misreading the spreadsheet or rules? The opposite (I think) is also true. Let's say that a team does NOT qualify for a game A or a game B BUT after the RPI numbers change the next day that same team may NOW qualify for a game C (if they lost both games A & B) So we bet this team starting with a game C bet...is this correct? Let's say that your team loses your initial game B bet. Now what happens if the RPI numbers change overnight and your team no longer qualifies for game C...do you simply NOT play and lose your game B wager? ...is any of my understanding of this correct? Also, as I tried to work with the spreadsheet I found in the RPI section that the A games are highlighted in darkened green. But I cant seem to find a column that tells us if and when a WIN took place anywhere during the 3 or 4 game series. Is that not listed on the spreadsheet? Am I wrong about this? Any help is well appreciated in advance. |
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Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble: Lapi - Per my spreadsheet WAS is a play - but I'll let B2W be the one to call a play official or not. All I know is both my RPI spreadsheet and my Super Systems spreadsheet - call WAS a play - so I am all over it. Gotcha...thanks for the feedback DG. |
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No life out there eh?
Well, I'm playing Washington Game A today as they DO seem to fit the system. Please somebody correct me if I am mistaken...thanks otherwise it's a "play" for me.
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Is Washington not an A play as well today?
I have them at 64 above Colorado.
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