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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    Sparky10191
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:10 AM ET #1

    If his name wasn't Tim Tebow...he wouldn't have a chance in the NFL. What QB can play 95% of horrid football and still play in the NFL?

    Face a good team, one that isn't from a "west" division not named the 49ers, and see where that gets you. Maybe facing an NFC team would open some eyes.

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    If his name wasn't Tim Tebow...he wouldn't have a chance in the NFL. What QB can play 95% of horrid football and still play in the NFL?

    Face a good team, one that isn't from a "west" division not named the 49ers, and see where that gets you. Maybe facing an NFC team would open some eyes.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:11 AM ET #2

    Now I'm not hating on him as a person. He's probably a great guy. But he's not a great player nor is he even a good player. End of Story.
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    Now I'm not hating on him as a person. He's probably a great guy. But he's not a great player nor is he even a good player. End of Story.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:11 AM ET #3

    Agree 100%...Broncos defense not even getting the credit they deserve.  Offense scored 1 TD the whole game...
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    Agree 100%...Broncos defense not even getting the credit they deserve.  Offense scored 1 TD the whole game...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:15 AM ET #4

    One of my friends is a big Tebow fan and he's bragging about this shit. I tell him...without that pick-6...Tebow isn't even in a position to win that game.

    He had 69 passing yards and 26 rushing yards before that final drive.

    If Sanchez wasn't Sanchez...tomorrow's headlines are about how poorly Tebow played.

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    One of my friends is a big Tebow fan and he's bragging about this shit. I tell him...without that pick-6...Tebow isn't even in a position to win that game.

    He had 69 passing yards and 26 rushing yards before that final drive.

    If Sanchez wasn't Sanchez...tomorrow's headlines are about how poorly Tebow played.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:16 AM ET #5

    Agreed he's not accurate at all, I dont care what his record is. He cant throw the ball bottom line. in two years we will be saying "remember Tim Tebow"
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    Agreed he's not accurate at all, I dont care what his record is. He cant throw the ball bottom line. in two years we will be saying "remember Tim Tebow"
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:16 AM ET #6

    I thought the same things as I consistantly dumped my bankroll betting against him in college.

    As for the offense....it sucks. As a passer he is tough to watch....but he can only get better in that regard, and if Denver can win in the meantime they are 50 times better off with Tebow at the helm than Kyle Orton or Brady Quinn.

    Defense is playing hard, lots of pride on that side of the ball.

     

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    I thought the same things as I consistantly dumped my bankroll betting against him in college.

    As for the offense....it sucks. As a passer he is tough to watch....but he can only get better in that regard, and if Denver can win in the meantime they are 50 times better off with Tebow at the helm than Kyle Orton or Brady Quinn.

    Defense is playing hard, lots of pride on that side of the ball.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:16 AM ET #7

    Agreed- the guy is a good person, a good leader, and works his tail off but those stats will not give you many wins in the NFL. Glad he beat the overconfident, cocky Jets and their fatass coach. And that Broncos defense deserves a lot of credit. They have been playing lights out lately.
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    Agreed- the guy is a good person, a good leader, and works his tail off but those stats will not give you many wins in the NFL. Glad he beat the overconfident, cocky Jets and their fatass coach. And that Broncos defense deserves a lot of credit. They have been playing lights out lately.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:16 AM ET #8

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:18 AM ET #9

    “You’ll never get a D-I scholarship.”

    “You’ll never win a Heisman.”

    “You’ll never be a first round pick.”

    “You’ll never be a starting NFL QB.”

    “You’ll never win as NFL QB.”

    4-1 ATS and 4-1 SU all as an underdog playing on a team that was 1-4.

    Yup, he sure does suck.

     “But….but….but….his stats aren’t pretty.”

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    “You’ll never get a D-I scholarship.”

    “You’ll never win a Heisman.”

    “You’ll never be a first round pick.”

    “You’ll never be a starting NFL QB.”

    “You’ll never win as NFL QB.”

    4-1 ATS and 4-1 SU all as an underdog playing on a team that was 1-4.

    Yup, he sure does suck.

     “But….but….but….his stats aren’t pretty.”

     
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    Except he makes everyone around him play much better, and that my friend CANNOT BE OVERLOOKED. Look how fired up those guys were down the stretch, it makes it fun for them. Obviously you can't see that in the stats but if you think it has nothing to do with anything then idk what to tell ya. Those guys are playing much harder with him at QB, and that is HUGE.
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    Except he makes everyone around him play much better, and that my friend CANNOT BE OVERLOOKED. Look how fired up those guys were down the stretch, it makes it fun for them. Obviously you can't see that in the stats but if you think it has nothing to do with anything then idk what to tell ya. Those guys are playing much harder with him at QB, and that is HUGE.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:19 AM ET #11

    Tim Tebow -

    Sparky -

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    Tim Tebow -

    Sparky -

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:20 AM ET #12

    What about that fortuitous bounce of the ball where the Jets right guard ended up with the touchdown?

    That must've been a designed play, right?

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    What about that fortuitous bounce of the ball where the Jets right guard ended up with the touchdown?

    That must've been a designed play, right?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:20 AM ET #13

    The NFL is seeing a type of offense that hasn't been seen before by a QB whose been used to this type of offense for, what, 3 years?

    Wait until defenses get a better understanding at how to handle this type of offense. He'll get better while teams understand him better and we'll be back at stage one.

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    The NFL is seeing a type of offense that hasn't been seen before by a QB whose been used to this type of offense for, what, 3 years?

    Wait until defenses get a better understanding at how to handle this type of offense. He'll get better while teams understand him better and we'll be back at stage one.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:21 AM ET #14

    dude he deserves some credit and he just cost me a shit load of money
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    dude he deserves some credit and he just cost me a shit load of money
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:21 AM ET #15

    Disagree Sparky.  Guy fucking wins game.
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:21 AM ET #16

    Yes because its all about your stats right, not your record.

    Denial is not just a river in Egypt my friend.

    So we should discount the final "GAME WINNING" drive so you can prove your point of his stats not being so good.

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    Yes because its all about your stats right, not your record.

    Denial is not just a river in Egypt my friend.

    So we should discount the final "GAME WINNING" drive so you can prove your point of his stats not being so good.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:22 AM ET #17

    Sparky =toool

    Tebow=

    thanks tebow for a grand tonight

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    Sparky =toool

    Tebow=

    thanks tebow for a grand tonight

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:24 AM ET #18

    JETS JUST SUCK WORSE
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:24 AM ET #19

    He could beat the Patriots and people like you would still say he has not beaten anyone. Stop hating, makes you look and sound ridiculous.

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    He could beat the Patriots and people like you would still say he has not beaten anyone. Stop hating, makes you look and sound ridiculous.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:25 AM ET #20

    In the words of Herm Edwards, "You play to win the game!"

    The guy wins and rallies his team. What more could any coach ask for?

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    In the words of Herm Edwards, "You play to win the game!"

    The guy wins and rallies his team. What more could any coach ask for?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    “You’ll never get a D-I scholarship.”

    “You’ll never win a Heisman.”

    “You’ll never be a first round pick.”

    “You’ll never be a starting NFL QB.”

    “You’ll never win as NFL QB.”

    4-1 ATS and 4-1 SU all as an underdog playing on a team that was 1-4.

    Yup, he sure does suck.

     “But….but….but….his stats aren’t pretty.”

    The best team he's faced this season was Detroit. And he lost. Give him competition. PLEASE. Lets see what he can do.

    Record of teams starting against Kyle Orton: 29-16 (4 of 5 teams over .500).

    Record of teams starting against Tim Tebow: 22-24 (1 of 5 teams over .500 which was their only loss).

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    “You’ll never get a D-I scholarship.”

    “You’ll never win a Heisman.”

    “You’ll never be a first round pick.”

    “You’ll never be a starting NFL QB.”

    “You’ll never win as NFL QB.”

    4-1 ATS and 4-1 SU all as an underdog playing on a team that was 1-4.

    Yup, he sure does suck.

     “But….but….but….his stats aren’t pretty.”

    The best team he's faced this season was Detroit. And he lost. Give him competition. PLEASE. Lets see what he can do.

    Record of teams starting against Kyle Orton: 29-16 (4 of 5 teams over .500).

    Record of teams starting against Tim Tebow: 22-24 (1 of 5 teams over .500 which was their only loss).

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:30 AM ET #22

    Say what you want..but I'll ride the Denver train until the wheels fall off!
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    Say what you want..but I'll ride the Denver train until the wheels fall off!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:32 AM ET #23

    @ San Diego, v Chicago and v New England won't be a walk in the park.

    He could beat Minnesota, Buffalo and Kansas City and I wouldn't give a shit because the games that mean something in regards to showing the world that he can actually do something are the first 3 teams I mentioned.

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    @ San Diego, v Chicago and v New England won't be a walk in the park.

    He could beat Minnesota, Buffalo and Kansas City and I wouldn't give a shit because the games that mean something in regards to showing the world that he can actually do something are the first 3 teams I mentioned.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:34 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    The best team he's faced this season was Detroit. And he lost. Give him competition. PLEASE. Lets see what he can do.

    Record of teams starting against Kyle Orton: 29-16 (4 of 5 teams over .500).

    Record of teams starting against Tim Tebow: 22-24 (1 of 5 teams over .500 which was their only loss).

    You're better than that Sparky. All he can do is play and hope to beat whichever team is on the schedule. And before he even gets to that point, the haters have already painted him a loser just like the majority of posters didn't even give Denver a chance against the "mighty Jets" i.e. Jets were going to annihilate Den after that loss to NE, etc, etc.

    And yet hurdle after hurdle, the excuses keep coming. It's time to give credit where it's due and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    The best team he's faced this season was Detroit. And he lost. Give him competition. PLEASE. Lets see what he can do.

    Record of teams starting against Kyle Orton: 29-16 (4 of 5 teams over .500).

    Record of teams starting against Tim Tebow: 22-24 (1 of 5 teams over .500 which was their only loss).

    You're better than that Sparky. All he can do is play and hope to beat whichever team is on the schedule. And before he even gets to that point, the haters have already painted him a loser just like the majority of posters didn't even give Denver a chance against the "mighty Jets" i.e. Jets were going to annihilate Den after that loss to NE, etc, etc.

    And yet hurdle after hurdle, the excuses keep coming. It's time to give credit where it's due and move on.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2011 - 12:34 AM ET #25

    Early in Michael Vick's career ESPN went to bat for Mike and explained his stats were not indicative of his play and his ability to move around was the future of the NFL.

    Vick's footwork and armslot sucked for his first 7 years in the league. There was no worse passer than him, yet he was such a threat to run that his passing stats were largely ignored by everyone except for football bettors.

    Fast forward 10 years to Tebow....shitty armslot, questionable footwork, but dynamic on the ground in his own bruising way. His ability to process information and read defenses is light years ahead of where Vick was...yet all I hear about is the fucking passing stats.

    Tim Tebow is the most polarizing figure in the NFL since the old Raider's defenses during the John Madden years.  People either love him or hate him.

    Personally, I think it is more entertaining watching  his teammates, fans and media react to what he does on the field rather than  to actually watch him play.  That being said, I like to see the Broncos win just to shove it up Mel Kiper's ass.

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    Early in Michael Vick's career ESPN went to bat for Mike and explained his stats were not indicative of his play and his ability to move around was the future of the NFL.

    Vick's footwork and armslot sucked for his first 7 years in the league. There was no worse passer than him, yet he was such a threat to run that his passing stats were largely ignored by everyone except for football bettors.

    Fast forward 10 years to Tebow....shitty armslot, questionable footwork, but dynamic on the ground in his own bruising way. His ability to process information and read defenses is light years ahead of where Vick was...yet all I hear about is the fucking passing stats.

    Tim Tebow is the most polarizing figure in the NFL since the old Raider's defenses during the John Madden years.  People either love him or hate him.

    Personally, I think it is more entertaining watching  his teammates, fans and media react to what he does on the field rather than  to actually watch him play.  That being said, I like to see the Broncos win just to shove it up Mel Kiper's ass.

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