INDY -1 is a classic example of a spread that makes you look twice at that card. I've been gambling for 11 years now and when I was a rookie I would no brainer hammer Indy -1. Wouldn't have to think twice about it.
Once you reach a certain plateau in your gambling career you start to notice the angles. The reasoning why the line is Indy -1. Cold weather, outdoor game for a dome team, aggressive blitzing defense which when effective shuts down the best of QB's. Pressure is the great equalizer for defense's against QB's like Brady, Brees and Manning. See Giants vs. Patriots superbowl... Giants D does the unthinkable and holds the explosive Pats Offense to 14 and beats a team that was undefeated going into the Super Bowl...
I would not bet Indy in this game on principle alone, that's not to say it's a sucker bet or one that won't win... If you like Indy hammer it now cause the line only climbs from here on in.
I'll personally wait to Baltimore climbs to 3 on gameday and I'll lay the -120 for the 3 points and the home teams...
Experience doesn't lead to choosing the right side of the Baltimore/Imdy game in week 11. Experience allows you to see the angles and understand the factors at play. You have to cap the game and make a decision.
If you've been around long enough you'll see these games go both ways. You have to have your pulse on these teams week in and week out...
INDY -1 is a classic example of a spread that makes you look twice at that card. I've been gambling for 11 years now and when I was a rookie I would no brainer hammer Indy -1. Wouldn't have to think twice about it.
Once you reach a certain plateau in your gambling career you start to notice the angles. The reasoning why the line is Indy -1. Cold weather, outdoor game for a dome team, aggressive blitzing defense which when effective shuts down the best of QB's. Pressure is the great equalizer for defense's against QB's like Brady, Brees and Manning. See Giants vs. Patriots superbowl... Giants D does the unthinkable and holds the explosive Pats Offense to 14 and beats a team that was undefeated going into the Super Bowl...
I would not bet Indy in this game on principle alone, that's not to say it's a sucker bet or one that won't win... If you like Indy hammer it now cause the line only climbs from here on in.
I'll personally wait to Baltimore climbs to 3 on gameday and I'll lay the -120 for the 3 points and the home teams...
Experience doesn't lead to choosing the right side of the Baltimore/Imdy game in week 11. Experience allows you to see the angles and understand the factors at play. You have to cap the game and make a decision.
If you've been around long enough you'll see these games go both ways. You have to have your pulse on these teams week in and week out...
Honestly, do you think Vegas likes to just "give money away" on a game like undefeated Indy, -1 @ Baltimore? Were they "giving money away" last week making public darling Atlanta only -1 @ Carolina? Doesn't anybody have the ability to sniff out a trap game for the betting public? Honestly, I'm going to guess Vegas knows what they are doing in this case. The days of "wanting equal action on both sides" are long gone. There will ALWAYS be a game or 2 a week where they figure they know what the outcome will be, and yet they make the line bad enough to get all of the donkeys out there to take the bait. This week, look no further than the public darlings of Indianapolis only having to cover 1 point against a Baltimore team that just struggled to score points against Cleveland on Monday Night Football. Sounds too good to be true? Guess what: it usually is...
Honestly, do you think Vegas likes to just "give money away" on a game like undefeated Indy, -1 @ Baltimore? Were they "giving money away" last week making public darling Atlanta only -1 @ Carolina? Doesn't anybody have the ability to sniff out a trap game for the betting public? Honestly, I'm going to guess Vegas knows what they are doing in this case. The days of "wanting equal action on both sides" are long gone. There will ALWAYS be a game or 2 a week where they figure they know what the outcome will be, and yet they make the line bad enough to get all of the donkeys out there to take the bait. This week, look no further than the public darlings of Indianapolis only having to cover 1 point against a Baltimore team that just struggled to score points against Cleveland on Monday Night Football. Sounds too good to be true? Guess what: it usually is...
i agree with mac on several things.every one has good points.But vegas isnt gonna post a line unless A)they believe it was exactly the way they thought it would go down by hundreds of experts doing careful calculations(which arent always right) or B)they want to sucker you into believing something is too good to be true. ill explain in the best way i can.Last yr SEC championship game when i placed my bet florida was a 10.5 fav and the total was 52.Florida won 31-20...coincidence?idk but damn good one for the most action on a game for the day.Also just recently Oregon beat Usc to death then played lowly Stanford as a 7 pt fav.The public made vegas tons on that one game as Stanford beat oregon to death.If vegas caps this game as the ravens winning outrite by 10 do you think they will open the line at that??Hell no.That would put just enough fear in bettors to keep the bets away or low.The safest bet would be The ravens at +1 or stay away!If indy wins then they win but if they lose and ur with the 70-80% that pay up...well shame shame
i agree with mac on several things.every one has good points.But vegas isnt gonna post a line unless A)they believe it was exactly the way they thought it would go down by hundreds of experts doing careful calculations(which arent always right) or B)they want to sucker you into believing something is too good to be true. ill explain in the best way i can.Last yr SEC championship game when i placed my bet florida was a 10.5 fav and the total was 52.Florida won 31-20...coincidence?idk but damn good one for the most action on a game for the day.Also just recently Oregon beat Usc to death then played lowly Stanford as a 7 pt fav.The public made vegas tons on that one game as Stanford beat oregon to death.If vegas caps this game as the ravens winning outrite by 10 do you think they will open the line at that??Hell no.That would put just enough fear in bettors to keep the bets away or low.The safest bet would be The ravens at +1 or stay away!If indy wins then they win but if they lose and ur with the 70-80% that pay up...well shame shame
What people don't understand or care to look at is that Indy beat a bland Houston team by 3, had to stage a miracle comeback and stupid move by Belicheck, and had to come from behind in the 4th to beat SF....they could easily have 2 losses or so. Balty has lost to solid teams for the most part. Yeah, I'm sure Vegas wants to lower their drawers and lay 3 on the road to the Ravens considering Indy's last 3 weeks.
What people don't understand or care to look at is that Indy beat a bland Houston team by 3, had to stage a miracle comeback and stupid move by Belicheck, and had to come from behind in the 4th to beat SF....they could easily have 2 losses or so. Balty has lost to solid teams for the most part. Yeah, I'm sure Vegas wants to lower their drawers and lay 3 on the road to the Ravens considering Indy's last 3 weeks.
My theory on Trap/Public/Reverse Line Movement Games. If this were all true, everybody here would win because all you have to do is fade the public on games they are 75% consensus on. However, I don't see many people winning in sports gambling so I don't think its that easy. If anything, people trap themselves by overthinking a game because of line movement or the like. Remember line movement only matters if you know who is moving the line.
My theory on Trap/Public/Reverse Line Movement Games. If this were all true, everybody here would win because all you have to do is fade the public on games they are 75% consensus on. However, I don't see many people winning in sports gambling so I don't think its that easy. If anything, people trap themselves by overthinking a game because of line movement or the like. Remember line movement only matters if you know who is moving the line.
normally i agree, however, unimpressive baltimore cant keep up w/ Peyton and the colts, this spread looks funny to me too, however i think it would look weirder at-2.5 or 3. ima stick with the colts on basically a pk game vs balt even on friday the 13th. thats just me...
normally i agree, however, unimpressive baltimore cant keep up w/ Peyton and the colts, this spread looks funny to me too, however i think it would look weirder at-2.5 or 3. ima stick with the colts on basically a pk game vs balt even on friday the 13th. thats just me...
My theory on Trap/Public/Reverse Line Movement Games. If this were all true, everybody here would win because all you have to do is fade the public on games they are 75% consensus on. However, I don't see many people winning in sports gambling so I don't think its that easy. If anything, people trap themselves by overthinking a game because of line movement or the like. Remember line movement only matters if you know who is moving the line.
Check last week: the top 4 consensus plays, which happened to be favorites on the road, were 0-4 ATS. Those would be Denver, Atlanta, New Orleans, and Dallas. I only felt that the Atlanta game was a trap out of the 4, considering the line given to that game was VERY inviting to one of the public darling teams of the NFL, that being Atlanta... And for the record, zorokegger, it has been the fading of public picks above the 70% marker that has me on a complete tear as of late... I feel as if playing those huge public consensus plays should be reserved for the first month of the season. For some reason, they cover more frequently at that point...
My theory on Trap/Public/Reverse Line Movement Games. If this were all true, everybody here would win because all you have to do is fade the public on games they are 75% consensus on. However, I don't see many people winning in sports gambling so I don't think its that easy. If anything, people trap themselves by overthinking a game because of line movement or the like. Remember line movement only matters if you know who is moving the line.
Check last week: the top 4 consensus plays, which happened to be favorites on the road, were 0-4 ATS. Those would be Denver, Atlanta, New Orleans, and Dallas. I only felt that the Atlanta game was a trap out of the 4, considering the line given to that game was VERY inviting to one of the public darling teams of the NFL, that being Atlanta... And for the record, zorokegger, it has been the fading of public picks above the 70% marker that has me on a complete tear as of late... I feel as if playing those huge public consensus plays should be reserved for the first month of the season. For some reason, they cover more frequently at that point...
yeah I guess how I feel is if Ravens win it doesn't add anything to trap theories, but on the flip side If Indy wins it doesn't really take away from the theories
yeah I guess how I feel is if Ravens win it doesn't add anything to trap theories, but on the flip side If Indy wins it doesn't really take away from the theories
Honestly, do you think Vegas likes to just "give money away" on a game like undefeated Indy, -1 @ Baltimore? Were they "giving money away" last week making public darling Atlanta only -1 @ Carolina? Doesn't anybody have the ability to sniff out a trap game for the betting public? Honestly, I'm going to guess Vegas knows what they are doing in this case. The days of "wanting equal action on both sides" are long gone. There will ALWAYS be a game or 2 a week where they figure they know what the outcome will be, and yet they make the line bad enough to get all of the donkeys out there to take the bait. This week, look no further than the public darlings of Indianapolis only having to cover 1 point against a Baltimore team that just struggled to score points against Cleveland on Monday Night Football. Sounds too good to be true? Guess what: it usually is...
Honestly, do you think Vegas likes to just "give money away" on a game like undefeated Indy, -1 @ Baltimore? Were they "giving money away" last week making public darling Atlanta only -1 @ Carolina? Doesn't anybody have the ability to sniff out a trap game for the betting public? Honestly, I'm going to guess Vegas knows what they are doing in this case. The days of "wanting equal action on both sides" are long gone. There will ALWAYS be a game or 2 a week where they figure they know what the outcome will be, and yet they make the line bad enough to get all of the donkeys out there to take the bait. This week, look no further than the public darlings of Indianapolis only having to cover 1 point against a Baltimore team that just struggled to score points against Cleveland on Monday Night Football. Sounds too good to be true? Guess what: it usually is...
By most rating services, Sagarin, Massey, Sonny Moore, Baltimore is a top 10 NFL team. They are playing at home. The line is not a trap it is correct. The fact that 90% of the public considers Indy way better is something Vegas has to live with because if they move the line to say Indy -3, the sharp betters will paste them with Baltimore action. Its the NFL. They are almost all virtual pick 'em. Obviously certain exceptions Cleveland Detroit Washington ect. Its not Florida against Rice. If you played the game 100 times Indy would win some lose sometimes by large margins. Players are not machines. That's why its gambling
By most rating services, Sagarin, Massey, Sonny Moore, Baltimore is a top 10 NFL team. They are playing at home. The line is not a trap it is correct. The fact that 90% of the public considers Indy way better is something Vegas has to live with because if they move the line to say Indy -3, the sharp betters will paste them with Baltimore action. Its the NFL. They are almost all virtual pick 'em. Obviously certain exceptions Cleveland Detroit Washington ect. Its not Florida against Rice. If you played the game 100 times Indy would win some lose sometimes by large margins. Players are not machines. That's why its gambling
Check last week: the top 4 consensus plays, which happened to be favorites on the road, were 0-4 ATS. Those would be Denver, Atlanta, New Orleans, and Dallas. I only felt that the Atlanta game was a trap out of the 4, considering the line given to that game was VERY inviting to one of the public darling teams of the NFL, that being Atlanta... And for the record, zorokegger, it has been the fading of public picks above the 70% marker that has me on a complete tear as of late... I feel as if playing those huge public consensus plays should be reserved for the first month of the season. For some reason, they cover more frequently at that point...
I liked Carolina last week too, but my reasons were that it was a home divisional game against a team (atlanta) they have had success against in the past. Also Carolina is a better team than perception at that point, because of there 0-3 start which I predicted before the year and then said after the 0-3 start don't be surprised if Carolina covers a bunch and makes a push late to either barely get in or miss the playoffs (carolina is my team and I posted this on carolinahuddle.com) I liked the Panthers to get a win in this spot because of the above reasons not because of the number.
In this case with this game I can make no solid case for the ravens
Check last week: the top 4 consensus plays, which happened to be favorites on the road, were 0-4 ATS. Those would be Denver, Atlanta, New Orleans, and Dallas. I only felt that the Atlanta game was a trap out of the 4, considering the line given to that game was VERY inviting to one of the public darling teams of the NFL, that being Atlanta... And for the record, zorokegger, it has been the fading of public picks above the 70% marker that has me on a complete tear as of late... I feel as if playing those huge public consensus plays should be reserved for the first month of the season. For some reason, they cover more frequently at that point...
I liked Carolina last week too, but my reasons were that it was a home divisional game against a team (atlanta) they have had success against in the past. Also Carolina is a better team than perception at that point, because of there 0-3 start which I predicted before the year and then said after the 0-3 start don't be surprised if Carolina covers a bunch and makes a push late to either barely get in or miss the playoffs (carolina is my team and I posted this on carolinahuddle.com) I liked the Panthers to get a win in this spot because of the above reasons not because of the number.
In this case with this game I can make no solid case for the ravens
By most rating services, Sagarin, Massey, Sonny Moore, Baltimore is a top 10 NFL team. They are playing at home. The line is not a trap it is correct. The fact that 90% of the public considers Indy way better is something Vegas has to live with because if they move the line to say Indy -3, the sharp betters will paste them with Baltimore action. Its the NFL. They are almost all virtual pick 'em. Obviously certain exceptions Cleveland Detroit Washington ect. Its not Florida against Rice. If you played the game 100 times Indy would win some lose sometimes by large margins. Players are not machines. That's why its gambling
Not to mention that Balt ML would be driven up and Balt would be a live dog for sure
By most rating services, Sagarin, Massey, Sonny Moore, Baltimore is a top 10 NFL team. They are playing at home. The line is not a trap it is correct. The fact that 90% of the public considers Indy way better is something Vegas has to live with because if they move the line to say Indy -3, the sharp betters will paste them with Baltimore action. Its the NFL. They are almost all virtual pick 'em. Obviously certain exceptions Cleveland Detroit Washington ect. Its not Florida against Rice. If you played the game 100 times Indy would win some lose sometimes by large margins. Players are not machines. That's why its gambling
Not to mention that Balt ML would be driven up and Balt would be a live dog for sure
doesnt vegas knowing they are trapping the public mean .They know whos going to win before the game starts? I think they try to pick out 1 or 2 games that they know the public gonna bang and take the percentages that the team can lose or not cover, .Especally when the other 40 games they have going on , there making there juice on even action ,or close to it more than makes up for it we forget theres nfl nba nhl all playing games They could afford to take a risk on the 1 or 2 high profile games of the week .We must also consider the teaser and ML action On a game like the cots at -1..Some teaser betters mite like Balt at +7or 11 for instance.Just another theory .
doesnt vegas knowing they are trapping the public mean .They know whos going to win before the game starts? I think they try to pick out 1 or 2 games that they know the public gonna bang and take the percentages that the team can lose or not cover, .Especally when the other 40 games they have going on , there making there juice on even action ,or close to it more than makes up for it we forget theres nfl nba nhl all playing games They could afford to take a risk on the 1 or 2 high profile games of the week .We must also consider the teaser and ML action On a game like the cots at -1..Some teaser betters mite like Balt at +7or 11 for instance.Just another theory .
By most rating services, Sagarin, Massey, Sonny Moore, Baltimore is a top 10 NFL team. They are playing at home. The line is not a trap it is correct. The fact that 90% of the public considers Indy way better is something Vegas has to live with because if they move the line to say Indy -3, the sharp betters will paste them with Baltimore action. Its the NFL. They are almost all virtual pick 'em. Obviously certain exceptions Cleveland Detroit Washington ect. Its not Florida against Rice. If you played the game 100 times Indy would win some lose sometimes by large margins. Players are not machines. That's why its gambling
"The fact that 90% of the public considers Indy way better is something
Vegas has to live with because if they move the line to say Indy -3"
That is the line out of your post that sticks out to me. Why doesn't Vegas ever take public perception of a team into account when they are making lines? Local bookies LOVE to tack on a point here and there to those teams the public is really in love with. Vegas, to me, knows darn well where all the money is going to come in on when they make a line like this. What ever happened to "creating equal action and collecting the vig?" I don't feel this is the case. I strongly feel this is a case of "we know darn well what everyone is going to bet when we make a line like this, and we really don't give a rats a$$!" Translation: bet all you want on Indy this week, its too easy. Result: Baltimore wins and Vegas collects 80%+ of the money wagered, instead of the vig on 50/50 action that they claim they really want...
By most rating services, Sagarin, Massey, Sonny Moore, Baltimore is a top 10 NFL team. They are playing at home. The line is not a trap it is correct. The fact that 90% of the public considers Indy way better is something Vegas has to live with because if they move the line to say Indy -3, the sharp betters will paste them with Baltimore action. Its the NFL. They are almost all virtual pick 'em. Obviously certain exceptions Cleveland Detroit Washington ect. Its not Florida against Rice. If you played the game 100 times Indy would win some lose sometimes by large margins. Players are not machines. That's why its gambling
"The fact that 90% of the public considers Indy way better is something
Vegas has to live with because if they move the line to say Indy -3"
That is the line out of your post that sticks out to me. Why doesn't Vegas ever take public perception of a team into account when they are making lines? Local bookies LOVE to tack on a point here and there to those teams the public is really in love with. Vegas, to me, knows darn well where all the money is going to come in on when they make a line like this. What ever happened to "creating equal action and collecting the vig?" I don't feel this is the case. I strongly feel this is a case of "we know darn well what everyone is going to bet when we make a line like this, and we really don't give a rats a$$!" Translation: bet all you want on Indy this week, its too easy. Result: Baltimore wins and Vegas collects 80%+ of the money wagered, instead of the vig on 50/50 action that they claim they really want...
I have said this many times and I will say it again. When you play connect the dots you always get burned. What I mean is when you say Baltimore sucked against pitiful Cleveland and the mighty Colts beat the Patriots therefore the Colts kill the Ravens. That is connecting the dots and that is sure way to lose lose lose.
Just my opinion. I just think it is matchups and homefield
I like your point here ... you can't "connect the dots," especially in the NFL and especially this year! I think I (and others) have learned the hard way with a few teams this year. That said, I LOVE the COLTS in this game. The only thing BALT has going for them right now is home field ... match-ups, experience, injuries, hearts, etc. ... all in Colts' favor.
I have said this many times and I will say it again. When you play connect the dots you always get burned. What I mean is when you say Baltimore sucked against pitiful Cleveland and the mighty Colts beat the Patriots therefore the Colts kill the Ravens. That is connecting the dots and that is sure way to lose lose lose.
Just my opinion. I just think it is matchups and homefield
I like your point here ... you can't "connect the dots," especially in the NFL and especially this year! I think I (and others) have learned the hard way with a few teams this year. That said, I LOVE the COLTS in this game. The only thing BALT has going for them right now is home field ... match-ups, experience, injuries, hearts, etc. ... all in Colts' favor.
Honestly, I think Vegas could have set the line at (-2.5) or (-3) and gotten an even more confident response from Colts bettors ... if anything, I think this is a trap to get people to bet on BALT because the general public likes upsets and wants to see the leader go down. There might be some reverse psychology here ... people see the initial line and think, "what does Vegas know that I don't" or "why is the game so tight?" ....
I'm on the Colts because they are an exception to the rule. Undefeated teams have to lose, right? Wrong! Not when Peyton is leading! Colts may have "escaped" their only loss of the Reg season last week against the patriots ... they won't be motivated because they had a "glorious come-back win" but instead they will realize their wake-up call to true potential for an undefeated season. They passed the hump with New England ... all down hill from here!! I'm not saying Balt can't win, but Colts (-1) is an opportunity you just can't pass up!!
Honestly, I think Vegas could have set the line at (-2.5) or (-3) and gotten an even more confident response from Colts bettors ... if anything, I think this is a trap to get people to bet on BALT because the general public likes upsets and wants to see the leader go down. There might be some reverse psychology here ... people see the initial line and think, "what does Vegas know that I don't" or "why is the game so tight?" ....
I'm on the Colts because they are an exception to the rule. Undefeated teams have to lose, right? Wrong! Not when Peyton is leading! Colts may have "escaped" their only loss of the Reg season last week against the patriots ... they won't be motivated because they had a "glorious come-back win" but instead they will realize their wake-up call to true potential for an undefeated season. They passed the hump with New England ... all down hill from here!! I'm not saying Balt can't win, but Colts (-1) is an opportunity you just can't pass up!!
i am going to come in here and laugh my ass off at you when Indy Throttles Baltimore.
haha this is coming from the guy who backed the broncos over the steelers because "the steelers are not a good road team", this is the guy who backed the browns over the ravens on mnf lol
i am going to come in here and laugh my ass off at you when Indy Throttles Baltimore.
haha this is coming from the guy who backed the broncos over the steelers because "the steelers are not a good road team", this is the guy who backed the browns over the ravens on mnf lol
Two teams play in the NFL on a given Sunday. The line is -1, it moves to pick-em, then +1. It shifts during the week. People talk about traps, Vegas knows this and that. There are a 100 reasons to bet Team A and 100 reasons to bet Team B. The smarts say this and the public says that. It's debated on Covers and everyone has an opinion. But all you got to do to win is figure out who will win the game, distill everything down to the actual important reasons to bet on Team A or Team B. The line and trap and all that bullshit may be one of them. Then when all is said and done, just hope no one misses an extra point or tips the ball into the other teams hands and run it back for a touchdown, or a coach goes for it on 4th down. If you are on the right team, you win your bet and have earned the label "GENIUS"
Two teams play in the NFL on a given Sunday. The line is -1, it moves to pick-em, then +1. It shifts during the week. People talk about traps, Vegas knows this and that. There are a 100 reasons to bet Team A and 100 reasons to bet Team B. The smarts say this and the public says that. It's debated on Covers and everyone has an opinion. But all you got to do to win is figure out who will win the game, distill everything down to the actual important reasons to bet on Team A or Team B. The line and trap and all that bullshit may be one of them. Then when all is said and done, just hope no one misses an extra point or tips the ball into the other teams hands and run it back for a touchdown, or a coach goes for it on 4th down. If you are on the right team, you win your bet and have earned the label "GENIUS"
I just want the real focus to be on Vegas and their abilities to set a line, and not what I think, or you think, or he/she thinks about who is going to win a game... I've lived in Vegas for several years, and talked to guys who work in the sportsbooks. There are always a group of NFL teams that become the public darlings, and will always attract a bigger amount of $$$ no matter how strange the line may look. So why wouldn't a game like Indy@Baltimore have a bigger line attached to it than -1 when Vegas KNOWS where the money is going to come in on?
You sir happen to be full of hot steaming smelly cow shit!!!! There i have said it. And thats because all the "real gamblers" who read this forum dont have time to educate you conspiracy theory bastards on the fact that "THE MAN" is a stupid ass red herring this buffoon conjured up from watching to many Living color reruns!
Seriously you gotta be shitting me!!! "vegas" who the fck is VEgas? where can i meet this man? Did he call a meeting for all the bookies from Newjersey, to toronto, Peurto Rico, Jamaica, England, Russia and a plethora of places and demand that they all slap up a -1 line to trap the "noobs"
So what happens if all of you sharps who read this post go and unload your thousands of dimes on a Baltimore ((A team that almost couldnt score against a depleted unmotivated browns squad) Lets say you sharps that waste so much time "looking for the angles" in a 50/50 proposition were at the same book, would this book be under instruction from "the man" in vegas not to move that line to a PK or even Balto-1?
Seriously i would like to know how "the man" tricked MJ into sleeping with those kids? Framed OJ for those murders, then hid the bombs that blew up the twin towers, after warning all the person to get out and leaving every body else in there now he has moved on to vegas and he wants you to lose your hard earned money betting the Colts..
I just wanna know how "the man" pulls all of this off..
I am going out to buy my tin foil hat..(so the man doesnt know what am thinking..)
I hope to come back and find some answers to these nagging questions.
I just want the real focus to be on Vegas and their abilities to set a line, and not what I think, or you think, or he/she thinks about who is going to win a game... I've lived in Vegas for several years, and talked to guys who work in the sportsbooks. There are always a group of NFL teams that become the public darlings, and will always attract a bigger amount of $$$ no matter how strange the line may look. So why wouldn't a game like Indy@Baltimore have a bigger line attached to it than -1 when Vegas KNOWS where the money is going to come in on?
You sir happen to be full of hot steaming smelly cow shit!!!! There i have said it. And thats because all the "real gamblers" who read this forum dont have time to educate you conspiracy theory bastards on the fact that "THE MAN" is a stupid ass red herring this buffoon conjured up from watching to many Living color reruns!
Seriously you gotta be shitting me!!! "vegas" who the fck is VEgas? where can i meet this man? Did he call a meeting for all the bookies from Newjersey, to toronto, Peurto Rico, Jamaica, England, Russia and a plethora of places and demand that they all slap up a -1 line to trap the "noobs"
So what happens if all of you sharps who read this post go and unload your thousands of dimes on a Baltimore ((A team that almost couldnt score against a depleted unmotivated browns squad) Lets say you sharps that waste so much time "looking for the angles" in a 50/50 proposition were at the same book, would this book be under instruction from "the man" in vegas not to move that line to a PK or even Balto-1?
Seriously i would like to know how "the man" tricked MJ into sleeping with those kids? Framed OJ for those murders, then hid the bombs that blew up the twin towers, after warning all the person to get out and leaving every body else in there now he has moved on to vegas and he wants you to lose your hard earned money betting the Colts..
I just wanna know how "the man" pulls all of this off..
I am going out to buy my tin foil hat..(so the man doesnt know what am thinking..)
I hope to come back and find some answers to these nagging questions.
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