[Quote: Originally Posted by mactionY2K5] Honestly, do you think Vegas likes to just "give money away" on a game like undefeated Indy, -1 @ Baltimore? Were they "giving money away" last week making public darling Atlanta only -1 @ Carolina? Doesn't anybody have the ability to sniff out a trap game for the betting public? Honestly, I'm going to guess Vegas knows what they are doing in this case. The days of "wanting equal action on both sides" are long gone. There will ALWAYS be a game or 2 a week where they figure they know what the outcome will be, and yet they make the line bad enough to get all of the donkeys out there to take the bait. This week, look no further than the public darlings of Indianapolis only having to cover 1 point against a Baltimore team that just struggled to score points against Cleveland on Monday Night Football. Sounds too good to be true? Guess what: it usually is...
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I've watched football for many years but am a rookie in the betting world so I would be considered fresh meat. I suck at the ou and I play like a typical person by playing the favs alot. And yes, I've lost the past few weeks as a result. The reason why I bet the favs is because I'm not good enough at this time to predict the final score to be confident enough to pick the points.
As for what you are saying about 'trap' lines, based on my short experience of the past few weeks, I would say that its more like Vegas is sending us signals- 'hey idiot- theres a red flag hanging all over this game, be careful' but like any other better, I ignore and bet without respecting the line that Vegas is laying. For example, last week's lines against Denver and Atlanta- man, was I stupid. Vegas warned me and I did not respect it. So I don't really consider it a 'trap' line- its more that Vegas knows something I don't and I should maybe look into that game more.
So you are thinking- Vegas is trying to trick us, I'm thinking- Vegas is trying to warn us- either way, comes out the same. Vegas could have laid 5 points against Atlanta and I would still have picked them over Carolina and I would have still have lost.
And if you think about it, if Vegas is trying to trick the public, they would keep the points consistent to prevent red flags which they are not doing.
[Quote: Originally Posted by mactionY2K5] Honestly, do you think Vegas likes to just "give money away" on a game like undefeated Indy, -1 @ Baltimore? Were they "giving money away" last week making public darling Atlanta only -1 @ Carolina? Doesn't anybody have the ability to sniff out a trap game for the betting public? Honestly, I'm going to guess Vegas knows what they are doing in this case. The days of "wanting equal action on both sides" are long gone. There will ALWAYS be a game or 2 a week where they figure they know what the outcome will be, and yet they make the line bad enough to get all of the donkeys out there to take the bait. This week, look no further than the public darlings of Indianapolis only having to cover 1 point against a Baltimore team that just struggled to score points against Cleveland on Monday Night Football. Sounds too good to be true? Guess what: it usually is...
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I've watched football for many years but am a rookie in the betting world so I would be considered fresh meat. I suck at the ou and I play like a typical person by playing the favs alot. And yes, I've lost the past few weeks as a result. The reason why I bet the favs is because I'm not good enough at this time to predict the final score to be confident enough to pick the points.
As for what you are saying about 'trap' lines, based on my short experience of the past few weeks, I would say that its more like Vegas is sending us signals- 'hey idiot- theres a red flag hanging all over this game, be careful' but like any other better, I ignore and bet without respecting the line that Vegas is laying. For example, last week's lines against Denver and Atlanta- man, was I stupid. Vegas warned me and I did not respect it. So I don't really consider it a 'trap' line- its more that Vegas knows something I don't and I should maybe look into that game more.
So you are thinking- Vegas is trying to trick us, I'm thinking- Vegas is trying to warn us- either way, comes out the same. Vegas could have laid 5 points against Atlanta and I would still have picked them over Carolina and I would have still have lost.
And if you think about it, if Vegas is trying to trick the public, they would keep the points consistent to prevent red flags which they are not doing.
So is the Indy line correct? Probably, Vegas is probably just saying that Baltimore has a good chance to beat Indy just like they beat Denver- so respect the line- Ravens might be a good choice.
So is the Indy line correct? Probably, Vegas is probably just saying that Baltimore has a good chance to beat Indy just like they beat Denver- so respect the line- Ravens might be a good choice.
[Quote: Originally Posted by fuDanSnyder] New poster here. I live in MD (skins fan) but watch all the Ravens games as well. This is not the same daunting defense people are used to seeing from the Ravens. Their secondary, with the obvious exception of Ed, is horrible. Dominique Foxworth will be covering Reggie Wayne a bunch. Terrell Suggs is out which I think will open up Dallas Clark even more. I do not see this defense being able to stop Peyton and all the weapons he has. The Colts won 31-3 last year and that was a better Ravens team. The only offensive weapon the Ravens have that scares me is Ray Rice but hopefully they can gameplan to slow him down. This is a trap game like everyone is saying but I just can't see the Ravens winning this one. Is there any doubt that if Peyton has the ball to end the game he will win it? The line has me a little nervous but this will be my biggest play this week. $2000 to win $1800. Lets get this money Peyton! [/Quo
How can you call this a trap game unless Vegas knows the outcome. You and many others obviously sees that Indy has all the weapons and will win. Vegas just sees it differently. Now its up to you and other bettors to decide whos gonna win this game. Even if Indy was -2 1/2 or less, many bettors would still take Indy. So if the line was -2 Indy, would it still be a trap considering most betters would probably still take Indy?
[Quote: Originally Posted by fuDanSnyder] New poster here. I live in MD (skins fan) but watch all the Ravens games as well. This is not the same daunting defense people are used to seeing from the Ravens. Their secondary, with the obvious exception of Ed, is horrible. Dominique Foxworth will be covering Reggie Wayne a bunch. Terrell Suggs is out which I think will open up Dallas Clark even more. I do not see this defense being able to stop Peyton and all the weapons he has. The Colts won 31-3 last year and that was a better Ravens team. The only offensive weapon the Ravens have that scares me is Ray Rice but hopefully they can gameplan to slow him down. This is a trap game like everyone is saying but I just can't see the Ravens winning this one. Is there any doubt that if Peyton has the ball to end the game he will win it? The line has me a little nervous but this will be my biggest play this week. $2000 to win $1800. Lets get this money Peyton! [/Quo
How can you call this a trap game unless Vegas knows the outcome. You and many others obviously sees that Indy has all the weapons and will win. Vegas just sees it differently. Now its up to you and other bettors to decide whos gonna win this game. Even if Indy was -2 1/2 or less, many bettors would still take Indy. So if the line was -2 Indy, would it still be a trap considering most betters would probably still take Indy?
How can you call this a trap game unless Vegas knows the outcome. You and many others obviously sees that Indy has all the weapons and will win. Vegas just sees it differently. Now its up to you and other bettors to decide whos gonna win this game. Even if Indy was -2 1/2 or less, many bettors would still take Indy. So if the line was -2 Indy, would it still be a trap considering most betters would probably still take Indy?
[/Quote]How can you call this a trap game unless Vegas knows the outcome. You and many others obviously sees that Indy has all the weapons and will win. Vegas just sees it differently. Now its up to you and other bettors to decide whos gonna win this game. Even if Indy was -2 1/2 or less, many bettors would still take Indy. So if the line was -2 Indy, would it still be a trap considering most betters would probably still take Indy?
[/Quote]Based on last week's experience, I think Vegas is sending us warnings- I was dumb enough picking Atlanta and Denver (covers had 70%+ of their voters doing the same) because of the low spread and look what happen. If Vegas would have left both spreads at -6, I would have done the same so I don't see it more as Vegas knowing something we don't and maybe we should re-think our bet. Who would have known Atl would have lost to Car straight up.
Conclusion: Vegas is sending us 'gift' messages or you can call it a 'trap'- either way, it has warning signs all over it.
Based on last week's experience, I think Vegas is sending us warnings- I was dumb enough picking Atlanta and Denver (covers had 70%+ of their voters doing the same) because of the low spread and look what happen. If Vegas would have left both spreads at -6, I would have done the same so I don't see it more as Vegas knowing something we don't and maybe we should re-think our bet. Who would have known Atl would have lost to Car straight up.
Conclusion: Vegas is sending us 'gift' messages or you can call it a 'trap'- either way, it has warning signs all over it.
Based on last week's experience, I think Vegas is sending us warnings- I was dumb enough picking Atlanta and Denver (covers had 70%+ of their voters doing the same) because of the low spread and look what happen. If Vegas would have left both spreads at -6, I would have done the same so I don't see it more as Vegas knowing something we don't and maybe we should re-think our bet. Who would have known Atl would have lost to Car straight up.
Conclusion: Vegas is sending us 'gift' messages or you can call it a 'trap'- either way, it has warning signs all over it.
Based on last week's experience, I think Vegas is sending us warnings- I was dumb enough picking Atlanta and Denver (covers had 70%+ of their voters doing the same) because of the low spread and look what happen. If Vegas would have left both spreads at -6, I would have done the same so I don't see it more as Vegas knowing something we don't and maybe we should re-think our bet. Who would have known Atl would have lost to Car straight up.
Conclusion: Vegas is sending us 'gift' messages or you can call it a 'trap'- either way, it has warning signs all over it.
DUDE OK LETS JUST SAY THIS GUY IS LOST, HE HANDICAPS VEGAS INSTEAD OF THE GAME BUT, WHICH GUY THAT CAPS HIS GAMES AND HAS HIS OWN LINES CAN TELL ME THEY HAD IND -1???????????????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EVERY TOM,JOSE AND LEROY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE -6.5, SO PLEASE DONT COME WITH THAT GURU TALK AND LET THE GUY DO HIS OWN THING.
DUDE OK LETS JUST SAY THIS GUY IS LOST, HE HANDICAPS VEGAS INSTEAD OF THE GAME BUT, WHICH GUY THAT CAPS HIS GAMES AND HAS HIS OWN LINES CAN TELL ME THEY HAD IND -1???????????????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EVERY TOM,JOSE AND LEROY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE -6.5, SO PLEASE DONT COME WITH THAT GURU TALK AND LET THE GUY DO HIS OWN THING.
COVERS.COM, indianapolis 1760 bets Baltimore 620 bets, your telling me thats even action??????? do you know how much of a loss the gambling gods will take if indianapolis will win this week???????? does anyone remember pittsburgh san diego, how the ref erased polamalu's last minute td to help san diego cover the spread, after the game it showed vegas made a $68 million profit just on that decision, we all know this game is fixed, i do you do, its just learning and finding out which side is being fixed. That doesent just must mean fade the public all the time theres certain spots, and if you dont know by now how to spot the fixed games you will never know..........MARK MY WORDS, indianapolis will not win sunday, just like i told everyone last week San Diego would roll over the Eagles. Go ahead study the stats, previous meetings, how many ppg each teams offense has thats a waste of time, if it was a profitable way of betting why arent you millionaires, why would sportsbook websites offer stats on there site, if they knew that stats is what makes your profit why would they offer them to there clientelle? why would they want to lose? thats because stats dont turn in a profit, i dont want to sound like a egotistic prick but ive been having the same arguement week in week out this year, last week i argued with 1919, i think thats his username, i argued with him about how the packers would beat the cowboys, and he was like "no, gb offensive line is wack, demarcus beware will sack him...like 5 times", please listen to me carefully when i say this baltimore will win this sunday, im that relaxed about it.
COVERS.COM, indianapolis 1760 bets Baltimore 620 bets, your telling me thats even action??????? do you know how much of a loss the gambling gods will take if indianapolis will win this week???????? does anyone remember pittsburgh san diego, how the ref erased polamalu's last minute td to help san diego cover the spread, after the game it showed vegas made a $68 million profit just on that decision, we all know this game is fixed, i do you do, its just learning and finding out which side is being fixed. That doesent just must mean fade the public all the time theres certain spots, and if you dont know by now how to spot the fixed games you will never know..........MARK MY WORDS, indianapolis will not win sunday, just like i told everyone last week San Diego would roll over the Eagles. Go ahead study the stats, previous meetings, how many ppg each teams offense has thats a waste of time, if it was a profitable way of betting why arent you millionaires, why would sportsbook websites offer stats on there site, if they knew that stats is what makes your profit why would they offer them to there clientelle? why would they want to lose? thats because stats dont turn in a profit, i dont want to sound like a egotistic prick but ive been having the same arguement week in week out this year, last week i argued with 1919, i think thats his username, i argued with him about how the packers would beat the cowboys, and he was like "no, gb offensive line is wack, demarcus beware will sack him...like 5 times", please listen to me carefully when i say this baltimore will win this sunday, im that relaxed about it.
YOU SIR ARE A ROOKIE, was your first bet carolina -3? on thursday
YOU SIR ARE A ROOKIE, was your first bet carolina -3? on thursday
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