So buffalo is down 13-10 and has 4th and 10 at their own 1 yard line, with 1:33 left in the game and 2 timeouts.
They decide to take a safety on purpose, and then kickoff (not even try an onsides kick).
When they do this, their best possible hope is that they get the ball back on about their own 20 with about 30 seconds left in the game and no timeouts, needing a TD.
If you go for it on 4th and 10, you need a FG to tie it, and about 1.30 and 2 timeouts left to get it.
I cant believe that between those 2 choices you choose the option they did. At least - try the onsides kick with the safety.
I just cannot believe I saw that.
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So buffalo is down 13-10 and has 4th and 10 at their own 1 yard line, with 1:33 left in the game and 2 timeouts.
They decide to take a safety on purpose, and then kickoff (not even try an onsides kick).
When they do this, their best possible hope is that they get the ball back on about their own 20 with about 30 seconds left in the game and no timeouts, needing a TD.
If you go for it on 4th and 10, you need a FG to tie it, and about 1.30 and 2 timeouts left to get it.
I cant believe that between those 2 choices you choose the option they did. At least - try the onsides kick with the safety.
I saw it - under the circumstances, probably their best practical chance was what they did, alternative is going for it on 4th and 1 at their own 1 yard line? Sure it sucks if you bet the Bills +3, but really Bills had less than 10% chance of converting there amd Dolphins would have scored (and covered anyway). Feel better now? Go on to the next game.
I saw it - under the circumstances, probably their best practical chance was what they did, alternative is going for it on 4th and 1 at their own 1 yard line? Sure it sucks if you bet the Bills +3, but really Bills had less than 10% chance of converting there amd Dolphins would have scored (and covered anyway). Feel better now? Go on to the next game.
retarded call. we had to drive like 65-70 yards in 2 minutes with 2 timeouts to get a field goal. instead b/c of the safety we would have had to drive 80 yards in 35 seconds with no timeouts to get a TD.
all these w/ an offense that struggles. makes sense.....
retarded call. we had to drive like 65-70 yards in 2 minutes with 2 timeouts to get a field goal. instead b/c of the safety we would have had to drive 80 yards in 35 seconds with no timeouts to get a TD.
all these w/ an offense that struggles. makes sense.....
I saw it - under the circumstances, probably their best practical chance was what they did, alternative is going for it on 4th and 1 at their own 1 yard line? Sure it sucks if you bet the Bills +3, but really Bills had less than 10% chance of converting there amd Dolphins would have scored (and covered anyway). Feel better now? Go on to the next game.
Look dope - I acknowledged above it had nothing to do with my bet. I was going to lose either way.
If you cant see that 4th and 10 needing a FG with 1.30 and 2 timeouts isnt better than 30 seconds needing a TD with no timeouts - YOU ARE A DOPE.
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I saw it - under the circumstances, probably their best practical chance was what they did, alternative is going for it on 4th and 1 at their own 1 yard line? Sure it sucks if you bet the Bills +3, but really Bills had less than 10% chance of converting there amd Dolphins would have scored (and covered anyway). Feel better now? Go on to the next game.
Look dope - I acknowledged above it had nothing to do with my bet. I was going to lose either way.
If you cant see that 4th and 10 needing a FG with 1.30 and 2 timeouts isnt better than 30 seconds needing a TD with no timeouts - YOU ARE A DOPE.
I saw it - under the circumstances, probably their best practical chance was what they did, alternative is going for it on 4th and 1 at their own 1 yard line? Sure it sucks if you bet the Bills +3, but really Bills had less than 10% chance of converting there amd Dolphins would have scored (and covered anyway). Feel better now? Go on to the next game.
And even if it is 10% as you state - what would you say the chances are of getting a TD from your own 20 with no timeouts and 30 seconds?
Einstein.
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I saw it - under the circumstances, probably their best practical chance was what they did, alternative is going for it on 4th and 1 at their own 1 yard line? Sure it sucks if you bet the Bills +3, but really Bills had less than 10% chance of converting there amd Dolphins would have scored (and covered anyway). Feel better now? Go on to the next game.
And even if it is 10% as you state - what would you say the chances are of getting a TD from your own 20 with no timeouts and 30 seconds?
I was figuring that even if they went for it on 4th, and didn't get the 1st, assuming Trent Edwards would have probably only thrown the ball 4 yards down the field.
The Dolphins would have run a couple of dive plays into the line, kicked a field goal to go up 6 leaving roughly 35 seconds on the clock after the Dolphins kicked off up 6.
Now the Bills would have been in the same situation either way, so you are absolutely right.
I was figuring that even if they went for it on 4th, and didn't get the 1st, assuming Trent Edwards would have probably only thrown the ball 4 yards down the field.
The Dolphins would have run a couple of dive plays into the line, kicked a field goal to go up 6 leaving roughly 35 seconds on the clock after the Dolphins kicked off up 6.
Now the Bills would have been in the same situation either way, so you are absolutely right.
retarded call. we had to drive like 65-70 yards in 2 minutes with 2 timeouts to get a field goal. instead b/c of the safety we would have had to drive 80 yards in 35 seconds with no timeouts to get a TD.
all these w/ an offense that struggles. makes sense.....
The part that kills me is that these decisions win and lose games. People would rather ask and concentrate on some play some guy made - but NOBODY will ask the coaches why they did this - and it made them go from having a slight chance - to having ZERO chance.
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retarded call. we had to drive like 65-70 yards in 2 minutes with 2 timeouts to get a field goal. instead b/c of the safety we would have had to drive 80 yards in 35 seconds with no timeouts to get a TD.
all these w/ an offense that struggles. makes sense.....
The part that kills me is that these decisions win and lose games. People would rather ask and concentrate on some play some guy made - but NOBODY will ask the coaches why they did this - and it made them go from having a slight chance - to having ZERO chance.
I was figuring that even if they went for it on 4th, and didn't get the 1st, assuming Trent Edwards would have probably only thrown the ball 4 yards down the field.
The Dolphins would have run a couple of dive plays into the line, kicked a field goal to go up 6 leaving roughly 35 seconds on the clock after the Dolphins kicked off up 6.
Now the Bills would have been in the same situation either way, so you are absolutely right.
BINGO.
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I was figuring that even if they went for it on 4th, and didn't get the 1st, assuming Trent Edwards would have probably only thrown the ball 4 yards down the field.
The Dolphins would have run a couple of dive plays into the line, kicked a field goal to go up 6 leaving roughly 35 seconds on the clock after the Dolphins kicked off up 6.
Now the Bills would have been in the same situation either way, so you are absolutely right.
vanzack... all I can say is take the loss and move on. I had the under on the Hou/Indy game, and they scored 28 points with 8:41 left in the game, including 14 points in the final 2 mins. Foster could got the first down, and downed it then ran out the clock. Instead they scored and indy scored two plays later.... too bad Indy didnt come back and beat them. that was #4 on a 7 team parlay, i got GB SF and the under on tomorrows game to finish it off. I hope one of the others doesnt cover.
vanzack... all I can say is take the loss and move on. I had the under on the Hou/Indy game, and they scored 28 points with 8:41 left in the game, including 14 points in the final 2 mins. Foster could got the first down, and downed it then ran out the clock. Instead they scored and indy scored two plays later.... too bad Indy didnt come back and beat them. that was #4 on a 7 team parlay, i got GB SF and the under on tomorrows game to finish it off. I hope one of the others doesnt cover.
vanzack... all I can say is take the loss and move on. I had the under on the Hou/Indy game, and they scored 28 points with 8:41 left in the game, including 14 points in the final 2 mins. Foster could got the first down, and downed it then ran out the clock. Instead they scored and indy scored two plays later.... too bad Indy didnt come back and beat them. that was #4 on a 7 team parlay, i got GB SF and the under on tomorrows game to finish it off. I hope one of the others doesnt cover.
Sir - you obviously dont know me. I could give a shit about who I bet on. Honestly.
I would be saying this same thread if I had nothing on the game - in fact I do it here to the point of annoyance. You will see dozens of these threads from me this season and in past seasons - because I cannot understand how temas spend MILLIONS of dollars on X's and O's, and ignore what actually wins and loses games.
I never met a hater better than me. I am on twitter
vanzack... all I can say is take the loss and move on. I had the under on the Hou/Indy game, and they scored 28 points with 8:41 left in the game, including 14 points in the final 2 mins. Foster could got the first down, and downed it then ran out the clock. Instead they scored and indy scored two plays later.... too bad Indy didnt come back and beat them. that was #4 on a 7 team parlay, i got GB SF and the under on tomorrows game to finish it off. I hope one of the others doesnt cover.
Sir - you obviously dont know me. I could give a shit about who I bet on. Honestly.
I would be saying this same thread if I had nothing on the game - in fact I do it here to the point of annoyance. You will see dozens of these threads from me this season and in past seasons - because I cannot understand how temas spend MILLIONS of dollars on X's and O's, and ignore what actually wins and loses games.
Van, I don't know what drives me more crazy, this or when teams spike the ball to stop the clock, thus wasting a down when there is a minute left on the clock at the end of a half or game.
Van, I don't know what drives me more crazy, this or when teams spike the ball to stop the clock, thus wasting a down when there is a minute left on the clock at the end of a half or game.
totally agree vanzack. even if you decided you want to take the safety, why not roll edwards out and hope somebody gets open for a first down. if not, then he can go out of the endzone and you get the same result. and not onside kicking it was even worse. what did they expect to happen in that situation exactly? its so mind boggling
totally agree vanzack. even if you decided you want to take the safety, why not roll edwards out and hope somebody gets open for a first down. if not, then he can go out of the endzone and you get the same result. and not onside kicking it was even worse. what did they expect to happen in that situation exactly? its so mind boggling
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