I'm starting this thread so everyone can put a few Bombs in here every week or month if they see any and we can use it as a tool to catch some prices together (hopefully!!)- please follow these guidelines
1) needs to be at least a 8 horse field at north american track
2) morning line needs to be 15-1 or higher
3) please post track, horse #, and why you like it
4) please post at least a few hours before the race so we have time to check it out
Thanks and hopefully this thread can be a tool in the future to find some price plays. I will be keeping a WIN bet profit/loss on the thread based on $2 wager and I know we can all make it very profitable if we each find a couple good ones each week/month
I'm starting this thread so everyone can put a few Bombs in here every week or month if they see any and we can use it as a tool to catch some prices together (hopefully!!)- please follow these guidelines
1) needs to be at least a 8 horse field at north american track
2) morning line needs to be 15-1 or higher
3) please post track, horse #, and why you like it
4) please post at least a few hours before the race so we have time to check it out
Thanks and hopefully this thread can be a tool in the future to find some price plays. I will be keeping a WIN bet profit/loss on the thread based on $2 wager and I know we can all make it very profitable if we each find a couple good ones each week/month
Ok I'll start with one i was looking at for tonite
Penn Nat race 6 #10 15-1 Frank the Tank
Last three races his beyers have the average edge over the rest of the horses I remember he beat me once at philly park sometime in the last year at a price however dont really like the post position so I'm in for 2dollars
Ok I'll start with one i was looking at for tonite
Penn Nat race 6 #10 15-1 Frank the Tank
Last three races his beyers have the average edge over the rest of the horses I remember he beat me once at philly park sometime in the last year at a price however dont really like the post position so I'm in for 2dollars
Why does the horse have to be 15-1? Most times they're 15-1 for a reason, ya know. We could do better at 8-1 or 10-1 IMO. 15-1 severely limits the plays and potential profit. 8-1 is a longshot to me.
Why does the horse have to be 15-1? Most times they're 15-1 for a reason, ya know. We could do better at 8-1 or 10-1 IMO. 15-1 severely limits the plays and potential profit. 8-1 is a longshot to me.
Why does the horse have to be 15-1? Most times they're 15-1 for a reason, ya know. We could do better at 8-1 or 10-1 IMO. 15-1 severely limits the plays and potential profit. 8-1 is a longshot to me.
JMO and don't want to ruffle any feathers here.
Im just trying to limit the horses to a few a week-- if we open it up to 8-1ml or 10-1ml then we will have tons of horses as thats all most of us play-- just looking for that horse that someone may know something about, someones angle that is strong, someone finds hidden form, etc... plus when we all play 8-1ml and 10-ml a lot of others like em too and they go off at 4-1 or so-- lets just have this thread as a pure bomb type thread with insightful price plays that could shock the tote-- outsmart's post was exactly the type of post this thread should be about
Why does the horse have to be 15-1? Most times they're 15-1 for a reason, ya know. We could do better at 8-1 or 10-1 IMO. 15-1 severely limits the plays and potential profit. 8-1 is a longshot to me.
JMO and don't want to ruffle any feathers here.
Im just trying to limit the horses to a few a week-- if we open it up to 8-1ml or 10-1ml then we will have tons of horses as thats all most of us play-- just looking for that horse that someone may know something about, someones angle that is strong, someone finds hidden form, etc... plus when we all play 8-1ml and 10-ml a lot of others like em too and they go off at 4-1 or so-- lets just have this thread as a pure bomb type thread with insightful price plays that could shock the tote-- outsmart's post was exactly the type of post this thread should be about
Ok I'll start with one i was looking at for tonite
Penn Nat race 6 #10 15-1 Frank the Tank
Last three races his beyers have the average edge over the rest of the horses I remember he beat me once at philly park sometime in the last year at a price however dont really like the post position so I'm in for 2dollars
Ok I'll start with one i was looking at for tonite
Penn Nat race 6 #10 15-1 Frank the Tank
Last three races his beyers have the average edge over the rest of the horses I remember he beat me once at philly park sometime in the last year at a price however dont really like the post position so I'm in for 2dollars
#4 Jimmy Palace 20-1ml -- has found home sprinting on dirt after starting career in msw's on turf-- just broke maiden from off the pace vs suffolk claimers-- brenda mccarthy good tampa trainer and rosario good tampa jock-- lots of speed from the outside so maybe this one can get a good trip and show his late kick
Tampa Race 6
#9 Sir Deputy 15-1ml- debuted against msw at the mountain and raced evenly in 10 horse field at 24-1-- now comes to tampa and drops to claimers and stretches out which i like to see after a "evenly" comment- capable jock on board in wide open baby race
#4 Jimmy Palace 20-1ml -- has found home sprinting on dirt after starting career in msw's on turf-- just broke maiden from off the pace vs suffolk claimers-- brenda mccarthy good tampa trainer and rosario good tampa jock-- lots of speed from the outside so maybe this one can get a good trip and show his late kick
Tampa Race 6
#9 Sir Deputy 15-1ml- debuted against msw at the mountain and raced evenly in 10 horse field at 24-1-- now comes to tampa and drops to claimers and stretches out which i like to see after a "evenly" comment- capable jock on board in wide open baby race
horse shows nothing on dirt or pro ride was undeafted in canada and had a horrible trip in the Juvy and we have a nameless jockey named Borel on him we shoulda started this thread then
horse shows nothing on dirt or pro ride was undeafted in canada and had a horrible trip in the Juvy and we have a nameless jockey named Borel on him we shoulda started this thread then
#9 Blue Demin 20-1ml-- drops a notch after showing nothing vs 7,500 maidens at this trip last out but was facing better earlier this year and was 7-1off odds vs 30k maidens at this trip in sept-- hasnt shown anything in 5 lifetime races but the drop to the bottom could wake this one up and did show a little speed in msw debut at 6 fur at hawthorne in 1st lifetime start so maybe can stalk up front vs these slow maidens
Turfway Race 9
#8 Navajo Park 30-1ml-- also 0-5 maiden but best race was at this exact trip and was 10-1 in that race which turned out to be a key race with multiple winenrs coming back to score
#9 Blue Demin 20-1ml-- drops a notch after showing nothing vs 7,500 maidens at this trip last out but was facing better earlier this year and was 7-1off odds vs 30k maidens at this trip in sept-- hasnt shown anything in 5 lifetime races but the drop to the bottom could wake this one up and did show a little speed in msw debut at 6 fur at hawthorne in 1st lifetime start so maybe can stalk up front vs these slow maidens
Turfway Race 9
#8 Navajo Park 30-1ml-- also 0-5 maiden but best race was at this exact trip and was 10-1 in that race which turned out to be a key race with multiple winenrs coming back to score
Could be some longshots in this write up. I play alot of these and he can pick some good ones. (I cut & pasted)
Courtesy of Mike Dempsey (couple of nice winners yesterday)
Turfway Park Race 2 #4 Inquisition was the beaten fav last out at Hawthorne at this level, checking in fourth. The runner up and fifth place finisher in the race both came back to win their next starts. He is back with McPeek and his lone go on the fake stuff was a decent fourth versus $7.5K non-winners of two back in October. Use #6,#11,#8 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 4 #10 Archie Tucker set the early fractions and tired to finish ninth against open $5K claimers. Three back when last in for restricted company the gelding beat $10K non-winners of three over the main track here. The gelding has won 3 of 9 over the poly here. The gelding drops into a softer spot here facing non-winners of three in ’09 or non-winners of four lifetime. Use #6,#11,!2 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 7 #5 Touch of Success stretches out to a mile after finishing a non-threatening seventh going six furlongs. The filly has only been two turns once in her career, a fifth place finish three back where the filly was fanned out seven wide for the stretch drive, making a mild late run. The barn is 21% winners moving runners from sprint to route. Has the look of a live longshot here and worth a look if we catch most of the 12/1 morning line. Use #6,#8,#2 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 8 #5 Oh Charlie Boy faded badly in the Iroquois last out at Churchill Downs going a mile, drops in class, and returns to the fake stuff. Two back at Presque Isle in his stakes debut he was fifth in a highly graded race won by Noble’s Promise, who exited that race to win the Breeders’ Futurity (G1) at Keeneland, then run a game third in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile (G1). The colt is one of two in here that has beaten winners, taking a Alw-2L race at Mountaineer Park in August in his first go against winners. Use #2,#1,#4 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 7 #8 El Tormento could get the late Pick 4 off to a good start if he can score near his 15/1 morning line. The gelding dueled for the early lead and weakened to finish fifth last out in his first go off a three-month break. Two back he was fourth behind repeat winner My Project Runway, who beat $3.5K non-winners of three in his next start. The gelding does not need to move forward all that much second off the bench to be in the mix here. Use #7,#5,#6 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 8 #8 Cold and Windswept was a sharp winner against $4K claimers last out in her first go off nearly a three-month break. The mare has now won 3 of 7 over the main track for the Richey barn that is hitting at a 37% clip at the meeting. Looks capable of wining right back. Use #9,#5,#2 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 9 #4 Passion Rules is a Woodbine invader and will be making his first start on conventional dirt. The Asmussen trainee ran huge in his second career start going five furlongs on the fake stuff, drawing clear to win by ten lengths. He looks like he has been facing tougher than he catches here. The gelding has four sibs that are winners including stakes winner Party Maker (3 for 5, $114K). Use #8,#1,#7 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 10 #3 Abram’s Creek was dismissed at 26/1 in his debut but shoed some good early speed dueling for the early lead before weakening to finish sixth. The winner Mountain Ride came back to beat $10K non-winners of two in his next outing on Nov. 18. The third place finisher in the race was Resolved Issue, who checked in third in the state bred Kudzu on Dec. 11. Lasix is added to the mix here. Use #9,#8,#2 in exotics.
Could be some longshots in this write up. I play alot of these and he can pick some good ones. (I cut & pasted)
Courtesy of Mike Dempsey (couple of nice winners yesterday)
Turfway Park Race 2 #4 Inquisition was the beaten fav last out at Hawthorne at this level, checking in fourth. The runner up and fifth place finisher in the race both came back to win their next starts. He is back with McPeek and his lone go on the fake stuff was a decent fourth versus $7.5K non-winners of two back in October. Use #6,#11,#8 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 4 #10 Archie Tucker set the early fractions and tired to finish ninth against open $5K claimers. Three back when last in for restricted company the gelding beat $10K non-winners of three over the main track here. The gelding has won 3 of 9 over the poly here. The gelding drops into a softer spot here facing non-winners of three in ’09 or non-winners of four lifetime. Use #6,#11,!2 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 7 #5 Touch of Success stretches out to a mile after finishing a non-threatening seventh going six furlongs. The filly has only been two turns once in her career, a fifth place finish three back where the filly was fanned out seven wide for the stretch drive, making a mild late run. The barn is 21% winners moving runners from sprint to route. Has the look of a live longshot here and worth a look if we catch most of the 12/1 morning line. Use #6,#8,#2 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 8 #5 Oh Charlie Boy faded badly in the Iroquois last out at Churchill Downs going a mile, drops in class, and returns to the fake stuff. Two back at Presque Isle in his stakes debut he was fifth in a highly graded race won by Noble’s Promise, who exited that race to win the Breeders’ Futurity (G1) at Keeneland, then run a game third in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile (G1). The colt is one of two in here that has beaten winners, taking a Alw-2L race at Mountaineer Park in August in his first go against winners. Use #2,#1,#4 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 7 #8 El Tormento could get the late Pick 4 off to a good start if he can score near his 15/1 morning line. The gelding dueled for the early lead and weakened to finish fifth last out in his first go off a three-month break. Two back he was fourth behind repeat winner My Project Runway, who beat $3.5K non-winners of three in his next start. The gelding does not need to move forward all that much second off the bench to be in the mix here. Use #7,#5,#6 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 8 #8 Cold and Windswept was a sharp winner against $4K claimers last out in her first go off nearly a three-month break. The mare has now won 3 of 7 over the main track for the Richey barn that is hitting at a 37% clip at the meeting. Looks capable of wining right back. Use #9,#5,#2 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 9 #4 Passion Rules is a Woodbine invader and will be making his first start on conventional dirt. The Asmussen trainee ran huge in his second career start going five furlongs on the fake stuff, drawing clear to win by ten lengths. He looks like he has been facing tougher than he catches here. The gelding has four sibs that are winners including stakes winner Party Maker (3 for 5, $114K). Use #8,#1,#7 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 10 #3 Abram’s Creek was dismissed at 26/1 in his debut but shoed some good early speed dueling for the early lead before weakening to finish sixth. The winner Mountain Ride came back to beat $10K non-winners of two in his next outing on Nov. 18. The third place finisher in the race was Resolved Issue, who checked in third in the state bred Kudzu on Dec. 11. Lasix is added to the mix here. Use #9,#8,#2 in exotics.
Could be some longshots in this write up. I play alot of these and he can pick some good ones. (I cut & pasted)
Courtesy of Mike Dempsey (couple of nice winners yesterday)
Turfway Park Race 2 #4 Inquisition was the beaten fav last out at Hawthorne at this level, checking in fourth. The runner up and fifth place finisher in the race both came back to win their next starts. He is back with McPeek and his lone go on the fake stuff was a decent fourth versus $7.5K non-winners of two back in October. Use #6,#11,#8 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 4 #10 Archie Tucker set the early fractions and tired to finish ninth against open $5K claimers. Three back when last in for restricted company the gelding beat $10K non-winners of three over the main track here. The gelding has won 3 of 9 over the poly here. The gelding drops into a softer spot here facing non-winners of three in ’09 or non-winners of four lifetime. Use #6,#11,!2 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 7 #5 Touch of Success stretches out to a mile after finishing a non-threatening seventh going six furlongs. The filly has only been two turns once in her career, a fifth place finish three back where the filly was fanned out seven wide for the stretch drive, making a mild late run. The barn is 21% winners moving runners from sprint to route. Has the look of a live longshot here and worth a look if we catch most of the 12/1 morning line. Use #6,#8,#2 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 8 #5 Oh Charlie Boy faded badly in the Iroquois last out at Churchill Downs going a mile, drops in class, and returns to the fake stuff. Two back at Presque Isle in his stakes debut he was fifth in a highly graded race won by Noble’s Promise, who exited that race to win the Breeders’ Futurity (G1) at Keeneland, then run a game third in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile (G1). The colt is one of two in here that has beaten winners, taking a Alw-2L race at Mountaineer Park in August in his first go against winners. Use #2,#1,#4 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 7 #8 El Tormento could get the late Pick 4 off to a good start if he can score near his 15/1 morning line. The gelding dueled for the early lead and weakened to finish fifth last out in his first go off a three-month break. Two back he was fourth behind repeat winner My Project Runway, who beat $3.5K non-winners of three in his next start. The gelding does not need to move forward all that much second off the bench to be in the mix here. Use #7,#5,#6 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 8 #8 Cold and Windswept was a sharp winner against $4K claimers last out in her first go off nearly a three-month break. The mare has now won 3 of 7 over the main track for the Richey barn that is hitting at a 37% clip at the meeting. Looks capable of wining right back. Use #9,#5,#2 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 9 #4 Passion Rules is a Woodbine invader and will be making his first start on conventional dirt. The Asmussen trainee ran huge in his second career start going five furlongs on the fake stuff, drawing clear to win by ten lengths. He looks like he has been facing tougher than he catches here. The gelding has four sibs that are winners including stakes winner Party Maker (3 for 5, $114K). Use #8,#1,#7 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 10 #3 Abram’s Creek was dismissed at 26/1 in his debut but shoed some good early speed dueling for the early lead before weakening to finish sixth. The winner Mountain Ride came back to beat $10K non-winners of two in his next outing on Nov. 18. The third place finisher in the race was Resolved Issue, who checked in third in the state bred Kudzu on Dec. 11. Lasix is added to the mix here. Use #9,#8,#2 in exotics.
Good luck today!
thanks for these plays- very nice write-ups- nice to see that
can you please create a post for these as this thread is for 15-1ml horses or higher only
Could be some longshots in this write up. I play alot of these and he can pick some good ones. (I cut & pasted)
Courtesy of Mike Dempsey (couple of nice winners yesterday)
Turfway Park Race 2 #4 Inquisition was the beaten fav last out at Hawthorne at this level, checking in fourth. The runner up and fifth place finisher in the race both came back to win their next starts. He is back with McPeek and his lone go on the fake stuff was a decent fourth versus $7.5K non-winners of two back in October. Use #6,#11,#8 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 4 #10 Archie Tucker set the early fractions and tired to finish ninth against open $5K claimers. Three back when last in for restricted company the gelding beat $10K non-winners of three over the main track here. The gelding has won 3 of 9 over the poly here. The gelding drops into a softer spot here facing non-winners of three in ’09 or non-winners of four lifetime. Use #6,#11,!2 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 7 #5 Touch of Success stretches out to a mile after finishing a non-threatening seventh going six furlongs. The filly has only been two turns once in her career, a fifth place finish three back where the filly was fanned out seven wide for the stretch drive, making a mild late run. The barn is 21% winners moving runners from sprint to route. Has the look of a live longshot here and worth a look if we catch most of the 12/1 morning line. Use #6,#8,#2 in exotics.
Turfway Park Race 8 #5 Oh Charlie Boy faded badly in the Iroquois last out at Churchill Downs going a mile, drops in class, and returns to the fake stuff. Two back at Presque Isle in his stakes debut he was fifth in a highly graded race won by Noble’s Promise, who exited that race to win the Breeders’ Futurity (G1) at Keeneland, then run a game third in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile (G1). The colt is one of two in here that has beaten winners, taking a Alw-2L race at Mountaineer Park in August in his first go against winners. Use #2,#1,#4 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 7 #8 El Tormento could get the late Pick 4 off to a good start if he can score near his 15/1 morning line. The gelding dueled for the early lead and weakened to finish fifth last out in his first go off a three-month break. Two back he was fourth behind repeat winner My Project Runway, who beat $3.5K non-winners of three in his next start. The gelding does not need to move forward all that much second off the bench to be in the mix here. Use #7,#5,#6 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 8 #8 Cold and Windswept was a sharp winner against $4K claimers last out in her first go off nearly a three-month break. The mare has now won 3 of 7 over the main track for the Richey barn that is hitting at a 37% clip at the meeting. Looks capable of wining right back. Use #9,#5,#2 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 9 #4 Passion Rules is a Woodbine invader and will be making his first start on conventional dirt. The Asmussen trainee ran huge in his second career start going five furlongs on the fake stuff, drawing clear to win by ten lengths. He looks like he has been facing tougher than he catches here. The gelding has four sibs that are winners including stakes winner Party Maker (3 for 5, $114K). Use #8,#1,#7 in exotics.
Delta Downs Race 10 #3 Abram’s Creek was dismissed at 26/1 in his debut but shoed some good early speed dueling for the early lead before weakening to finish sixth. The winner Mountain Ride came back to beat $10K non-winners of two in his next outing on Nov. 18. The third place finisher in the race was Resolved Issue, who checked in third in the state bred Kudzu on Dec. 11. Lasix is added to the mix here. Use #9,#8,#2 in exotics.
Good luck today!
thanks for these plays- very nice write-ups- nice to see that
can you please create a post for these as this thread is for 15-1ml horses or higher only
Just watche drace 4 from Turfway and horse#10 Archie Trucker broke out nice and settled in 3rd made a middle move and then started to fade at the quarter pole.Tight photo for 3rd at best looked 4th to me.
Just watche drace 4 from Turfway and horse#10 Archie Trucker broke out nice and settled in 3rd made a middle move and then started to fade at the quarter pole.Tight photo for 3rd at best looked 4th to me.
I finally gave up on Marcade. Chased that pig like a cheap hooker.
Hey Gary nice to meet you. I have never seen that many black stars. How can you do that, even on purpose..or not. But its pretty cool. Maybe you could post those picks and we can fade them.
I finally gave up on Marcade. Chased that pig like a cheap hooker.
Hey Gary nice to meet you. I have never seen that many black stars. How can you do that, even on purpose..or not. But its pretty cool. Maybe you could post those picks and we can fade them.
I like the thread. I don't post regularly but enjoy everyone's comments. I don't usually play Philly (disclaimer) but Aqueduct is dark and I've been struggling at Tampa. Here are a few longshots I might try today...
3rd PHA - #9 (15-1 ML): Showed nothing in August debut. Now training under Doug O'Neill. High priced filly might improve enough to be competitive.
5th PHA - #7 (12-1 ML): Has shown she can close and be competitive at the N3L level. Coming in off a bit of a freshening after a poor outing last time. Probably needed it. Might get up for a share if 4,5,10 push each other on the front.
6th PHA - #5 (15-1 ML): He didn't like the turf in his debut. Might see improvement in 2nd start and dropping from MSW to MCL.
7th PHA - #8 (10-1 ML): Lots of early pace, could be a horse closing late.
I like the thread. I don't post regularly but enjoy everyone's comments. I don't usually play Philly (disclaimer) but Aqueduct is dark and I've been struggling at Tampa. Here are a few longshots I might try today...
3rd PHA - #9 (15-1 ML): Showed nothing in August debut. Now training under Doug O'Neill. High priced filly might improve enough to be competitive.
5th PHA - #7 (12-1 ML): Has shown she can close and be competitive at the N3L level. Coming in off a bit of a freshening after a poor outing last time. Probably needed it. Might get up for a share if 4,5,10 push each other on the front.
6th PHA - #5 (15-1 ML): He didn't like the turf in his debut. Might see improvement in 2nd start and dropping from MSW to MCL.
7th PHA - #8 (10-1 ML): Lots of early pace, could be a horse closing late.
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