If that kid from WV doesn't make that tough fall away from 10 feet in the final seconds and K state wins by 12 there wouldn't be one fixed thread.. Also if the game is fixed why would K state build up a twenty point lead in the second half. And who is in on this fixed game? the k state players? the WV players? the coaches? the refs? I don't know the logistics of how a fixed game would proceed but I gurantee it wouldn't come down to a shot in the final seconds, it wouldn't come anywhere close to the orignal line..
If that kid from WV doesn't make that tough fall away from 10 feet in the final seconds and K state wins by 12 there wouldn't be one fixed thread.. Also if the game is fixed why would K state build up a twenty point lead in the second half. And who is in on this fixed game? the k state players? the WV players? the coaches? the refs? I don't know the logistics of how a fixed game would proceed but I gurantee it wouldn't come down to a shot in the final seconds, it wouldn't come anywhere close to the orignal line..
Did you not see how many fouls were called against K-State in the 2nd half? garbage was sickening. I watched that whole game from beginning to end, Refs made sure that this game would stay close and not get out of hand. 17 fouls called on K-State in the 2nd half alone. Man that's crazy.
Did you not see how many fouls were called against K-State in the 2nd half? garbage was sickening. I watched that whole game from beginning to end, Refs made sure that this game would stay close and not get out of hand. 17 fouls called on K-State in the 2nd half alone. Man that's crazy.
I would love to know the factors that go into a fixed game.. Like there was a kid in here last week saying the michigan wisconsin was fixed. The same game that wisky covered in OT after making a half courter to send it into overtime otherwise it would have been a michigan cover..was making that half court shot part of the script of the fix like that kid from WV making that twelve footer in the closing seconds tonight?
I would love to know the factors that go into a fixed game.. Like there was a kid in here last week saying the michigan wisconsin was fixed. The same game that wisky covered in OT after making a half courter to send it into overtime otherwise it would have been a michigan cover..was making that half court shot part of the script of the fix like that kid from WV making that twelve footer in the closing seconds tonight?
the refs do the best they can to determine the outcome. not players or coaches, but possible a player once in a while might get paid off in college. but mainly just refs and it doesnt always work.
the refs do the best they can to determine the outcome. not players or coaches, but possible a player once in a while might get paid off in college. but mainly just refs and it doesnt always work.
I am aware that Tim Donoghy went to prison but if you read the threads in here nightly you would be led to believe that every game is fixed when its probably less than one percent
I am aware that Tim Donoghy went to prison but if you read the threads in here nightly you would be led to believe that every game is fixed when its probably less than one percent
so your theory is that all three refs had wvu plus 10 or 10 1/2 and either pushed or won by the hook?
I personally think the fix was on the 2nd half line, not necessarily the full game. And it just happen to have West Virginia cover the full game too. Cause 2nd half was -3.5 which basically means K-State had to win by 17 for that win. To me that's much easier to have done than the full game.
I'm sure whatever call was made was so that K-State didn't cover the 2nd half. Everytime the score would get up 19 or 20 points. Next play down quickly a foul would be called against K-State. I never really say anything about fixing or point shaving, but I watched that whole game and it was just crazy to watch it play out.
so your theory is that all three refs had wvu plus 10 or 10 1/2 and either pushed or won by the hook?
I personally think the fix was on the 2nd half line, not necessarily the full game. And it just happen to have West Virginia cover the full game too. Cause 2nd half was -3.5 which basically means K-State had to win by 17 for that win. To me that's much easier to have done than the full game.
I'm sure whatever call was made was so that K-State didn't cover the 2nd half. Everytime the score would get up 19 or 20 points. Next play down quickly a foul would be called against K-State. I never really say anything about fixing or point shaving, but I watched that whole game and it was just crazy to watch it play out.
If that kid from WV doesn't make that tough fall away from 10 feet in the final seconds and K state wins by 12 there wouldn't be one fixed thread.. Also if the game is fixed why would K state build up a twenty point lead in the second half. And who is in on this fixed game? the k state players? the WV players? the coaches? the refs? I don't know the logistics of how a fixed game would proceed but I gurantee it wouldn't come down to a shot in the final seconds, it wouldn't come anywhere close to the orignal line..
Saddens me how few like minded of us there are, but hopefully it'll give you some happiness to know that there is at least ONE person here with you that recognizes the same thing. The people who cry 'rigged' 'fixed' and 'points shaving' are ridiculous and pathetic, for SO many reasons. Like you said, was a very difficult made shot with 12 seconds to go. He misses, KSU covers, no fixed posts--so the almighty 'vegas' is really that flimsy? Give me a break.
And like you said, 'fixed' posts about the Wisky game, are you kidding me? YOU CANNOT GUARANTEE any made basket, much less a half court shot! There are just SO many holes, in every argument from the crybabies. It drives me mad, because it makes real bettors look like absolutely clowns. And I f**king despise the 'You just have to be on the right side of the fix' idiots. If I EVER thought something I was risking my hard earned money on, was pre-determined? You bet your behind I would NEVER be putting a single penny on it, ever again.
VEGAS WILL ALWAYS MAKE MONEY. They have no reason to fix things! Plus, let's look at major games--The Super Bowl--TONS of money on the Ravens--Vegas was okay with that one? And with all the investigative reporting and social media in today's world, you really don't think someone would have busted these 'fixes' wide open? And how does it work, there's a 'vegas batphone' on every sideline?
I could vent so much more but it makes my blood boil, I need to calm down. Some euro soccer leagues are obviously fixed, and boxing had many fixes in its day. One busted NBA ref doesn't mean the entire NBA is rigged.
And why does no one who won ever cry 'rigged'....? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
If that kid from WV doesn't make that tough fall away from 10 feet in the final seconds and K state wins by 12 there wouldn't be one fixed thread.. Also if the game is fixed why would K state build up a twenty point lead in the second half. And who is in on this fixed game? the k state players? the WV players? the coaches? the refs? I don't know the logistics of how a fixed game would proceed but I gurantee it wouldn't come down to a shot in the final seconds, it wouldn't come anywhere close to the orignal line..
Saddens me how few like minded of us there are, but hopefully it'll give you some happiness to know that there is at least ONE person here with you that recognizes the same thing. The people who cry 'rigged' 'fixed' and 'points shaving' are ridiculous and pathetic, for SO many reasons. Like you said, was a very difficult made shot with 12 seconds to go. He misses, KSU covers, no fixed posts--so the almighty 'vegas' is really that flimsy? Give me a break.
And like you said, 'fixed' posts about the Wisky game, are you kidding me? YOU CANNOT GUARANTEE any made basket, much less a half court shot! There are just SO many holes, in every argument from the crybabies. It drives me mad, because it makes real bettors look like absolutely clowns. And I f**king despise the 'You just have to be on the right side of the fix' idiots. If I EVER thought something I was risking my hard earned money on, was pre-determined? You bet your behind I would NEVER be putting a single penny on it, ever again.
VEGAS WILL ALWAYS MAKE MONEY. They have no reason to fix things! Plus, let's look at major games--The Super Bowl--TONS of money on the Ravens--Vegas was okay with that one? And with all the investigative reporting and social media in today's world, you really don't think someone would have busted these 'fixes' wide open? And how does it work, there's a 'vegas batphone' on every sideline?
I could vent so much more but it makes my blood boil, I need to calm down. Some euro soccer leagues are obviously fixed, and boxing had many fixes in its day. One busted NBA ref doesn't mean the entire NBA is rigged.
And why does no one who won ever cry 'rigged'....? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
If there was any fix(and there probably wasnt) it was probably on the over since as you pointed out so many fouls were called. I said before the 2nd half started that the refs would give Huggy some respect by giving him some calls, but Ive seen games where there have been more fouls than that.
If there was any fix(and there probably wasnt) it was probably on the over since as you pointed out so many fouls were called. I said before the 2nd half started that the refs would give Huggy some respect by giving him some calls, but Ive seen games where there have been more fouls than that.
i won and still say it was rigged. refs DO get paid to TRY to swing a game in a certain team's favor sometimes. to think otherwise is nieve and foolish. you probably trust every person you know too. when it has already been proven that an NBA ref fixed games, do you really think it was an isolated incident? money rules all and in college where kids dont get paid and refs dont make much, dont you think it is possible that a player or a ref would take a payoff to TRY their best to swing the game a certain way? i would do it if i played or was a ref, so i know it happens. maybe not as often as some would like to think, but it DOES happen and i would bet my life on it. "vegas" doesnt have to be who pays people, what about organized crime figures who make most of their income on book making? that is who i believe does most of the payoffs
i won and still say it was rigged. refs DO get paid to TRY to swing a game in a certain team's favor sometimes. to think otherwise is nieve and foolish. you probably trust every person you know too. when it has already been proven that an NBA ref fixed games, do you really think it was an isolated incident? money rules all and in college where kids dont get paid and refs dont make much, dont you think it is possible that a player or a ref would take a payoff to TRY their best to swing the game a certain way? i would do it if i played or was a ref, so i know it happens. maybe not as often as some would like to think, but it DOES happen and i would bet my life on it. "vegas" doesnt have to be who pays people, what about organized crime figures who make most of their income on book making? that is who i believe does most of the payoffs
and just because the payoff is made, doesnt mean it is a guarantee they will be successful at it. it's not like the game was scripted for the WVA player to make a tough shot at the end for the cover. the refs just called as many fouls against Kstate as they could and hoped it would be enough to let WVA get the backdoor cover. and it worked. i know the linesmakers are good, but they arent THAT good . just look how many game fall right around the key number everyday. it happens because someone makes it happen.
and just because the payoff is made, doesnt mean it is a guarantee they will be successful at it. it's not like the game was scripted for the WVA player to make a tough shot at the end for the cover. the refs just called as many fouls against Kstate as they could and hoped it would be enough to let WVA get the backdoor cover. and it worked. i know the linesmakers are good, but they arent THAT good . just look how many game fall right around the key number everyday. it happens because someone makes it happen.
Dwarf stop being so naive to think fixing games does not occur. Im not saying this game was fixed but the people who say that games are never fixed are more annoying than the people who cry fix. Take ur rose colored glasses off and realize there is corruption in every aspect of life especially when there is large amounts of money involved. So yes fixed threads can get annoying cuz im sure the majority of games are not fixed but dont act like its doesnt occur cuz it does. FACT
Dwarf stop being so naive to think fixing games does not occur. Im not saying this game was fixed but the people who say that games are never fixed are more annoying than the people who cry fix. Take ur rose colored glasses off and realize there is corruption in every aspect of life especially when there is large amounts of money involved. So yes fixed threads can get annoying cuz im sure the majority of games are not fixed but dont act like its doesnt occur cuz it does. FACT
VEGAS AINT GOT garbage TO DO WITH IT....BASEMENT BOOKIES BUDDY...MOB BACKED FIXIN..THEY KNOW WHAT THE PUB OR WHAT HOT LOCAL GAME EVERYONE IN TOWN IS ON...ALL IT TAKES IS A GREEDY FUKKK LIKE DE ROSA TO BLOW THAT WHISTLE LIKE A GOOD female AT A MEXICAN BAR ON PAYDAY....THEY GOT ME GOOD TONIGHT!!
VEGAS AINT GOT garbage TO DO WITH IT....BASEMENT BOOKIES BUDDY...MOB BACKED FIXIN..THEY KNOW WHAT THE PUB OR WHAT HOT LOCAL GAME EVERYONE IN TOWN IS ON...ALL IT TAKES IS A GREEDY FUKKK LIKE DE ROSA TO BLOW THAT WHISTLE LIKE A GOOD female AT A MEXICAN BAR ON PAYDAY....THEY GOT ME GOOD TONIGHT!!
i know it's crazy how some people can be so sheltered in life to think everything is on the up and up in sports. it;s just like anything else where money is involved.
i know it's crazy how some people can be so sheltered in life to think everything is on the up and up in sports. it;s just like anything else where money is involved.
I guess some people believe that the sports world is full with honest ppeople who would never break the law. We got athletes killing people, involved in shooting, domestic abuse etc. but never would anyone invilved with sports fix a game hahaha of course fixing goes on
I guess some people believe that the sports world is full with honest ppeople who would never break the law. We got athletes killing people, involved in shooting, domestic abuse etc. but never would anyone invilved with sports fix a game hahaha of course fixing goes on
I never said there aren't fixed games but its no where near the volume of people on here.. .like I said i have read multiple threads about fixed games that were contingent on shots going in in the last few seconds.. A fixed game would be no where near the orginal line and rely on a last second shot. People that cry fix on every game they lose at the buzzer reminds me of a black high school graduate crying racism because he didn't get the job over a white guy with a PHD.
I never said there aren't fixed games but its no where near the volume of people on here.. .like I said i have read multiple threads about fixed games that were contingent on shots going in in the last few seconds.. A fixed game would be no where near the orginal line and rely on a last second shot. People that cry fix on every game they lose at the buzzer reminds me of a black high school graduate crying racism because he didn't get the job over a white guy with a PHD.
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