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Posted: 1/5/2018 10:24:20 AM
Read a few of these articles this morning.
This is serious stuff in my opinion and in no way a fluff piece.
I wonder what implications they may have on finishing the season.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle

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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:16:30 AM
This article virtually books the Patriots ticket to the Super Bowl, Crisis? My a-ss.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:17:41 AM
What is this article going to do? Make people doubt them despite there being no grounds for them to warrant this doubt, What do Brady and Belichick do when people doubt them? Win.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:35:24 AM
You must love TMZ too.  The holy triumvirate released a statement saying that the allegations are BS...and that it was ridiculous that they even had to do that.  Enjoy eating the rest of your dog poo.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:44:56 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mcbremps:

You must love TMZ too.  The holy triumvirate released a statement saying that the allegations are BS...and that it was ridiculous that they even had to do that.  Enjoy eating the rest of your dog poo.

It's not even that, It's what evidence is there for the crisis? If going 13-3 is a crisis? There's quite a few NFL franchises that would love that 'chaos' and 'crisis' lmao.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:46:44 AM
It wouldn't shock me in the slightest if Belichick paid the ESPN weasel to write that article, Just for a nice, keep you on your toes, kick up the backside for his team, He's a genius.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:02:47 PM

It’s just a ploy by Robert Kraft to keep New England in the news during their bye week. 

Pro Football talk knew this story was going to break today. It’s not a coincidence it was released the day before wildcard weekend started.

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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:34:24 PM
So funny how when "issues" come out about the Steelers they are huge and carry weight YET when these type of stories come out about the almighty Patriots, it's no big deal. This in itself tells me that the sheep this year could very well be the oh so confident Patriots backers. It started with Giselle talking about concussions, then we got the trainer story coming out, then jimmy g being traded leaving nobody to take over if/when Brady gets rocked, then we have this story coming out from MULTIPLE sources. MULTIPLE. What are the Patriots to say smart ones? Yes, we do have issues and yes we are not all on the same page. So funny how a few weeks ago when the Steelers lost we have the almighty cappers in this forum talking about lack of organization and how it would be the death of them yet nothing when it's about the Patriots. Keep backing the Patriots guys. The bread crumbs have been there.....Steelers will beat them in a few weeks. I spoke of it all year. Good luck.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:52:39 PM
The three of them just released a joint statement rejecting the ESPN report. They claim that the report had over exaggerated the situation and they remain focused on football. I don’t know how much of that I believe. But this is certainly the distraction the patriots haters love to see. 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:58:05 PM
Achilles, c’mon man. Try to keep your pants on.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:10:50 PM
Funny how Pats fans are tryin to squash this thing as just hatchetjob media.... You should be worried. Belichek wont stay there much longer. Wont be suprised if he leaves after this season win or lose. Wake up.... Your golden boy QB is a douchebag. 

Im Biased but Tom Brady never deserves MVP in my eyes. The Patriots win without him. Period. Belichek is why you won championships.... Tom Brady has been piped up so much that he actually believes his own bs..... remember he was a 7th round pick. And pats have made Hoyer and Cassel look like pro bowlers in the past. Not to mention Garrapolo and Brissett both looked very good as well.... TOM BRADY IS AS REPLACEABLE AS A PAIR OF SHOES. BELICHEK IS NOT. 

Im a 49er fan and in my eyes no QB will EVER be better than Joe Cool... 
1) Tom Brady had NFL rules invented specifically for him. The tuck rule handed him his first superbowl (nfl admitted its mistake by cancelling said rule)... And when Brady got hit and tore a knee up, The NFL invented a rule protecting QBs.... Who can forget Joe Montana taking that blindside hit that derailed his career? No rule invented for that. its football. man up box.
2) Deflategate? Dont give a crap what any patiots fans says about circumstances, Bias, or investigations.... bottom line.... Tom Brady was suspended for cheating. Period end of story.
3) Now this Garrapolo story. Tom Brady asks his daddy to trade away his competition because his ego cant take it. Joe remained ALL CLASS while Steve Young took his job. He was traded in a deal that still stings the soul of every niner fan. 
4) Tom Brady lost Superbowls

Tom Brady is a damn good QB. Please dont misconstrue my arguement as an attempt to minimize his accomplishments. But Pats fans are delusional... Dont disrespect My QB by trying to compare yours.... because there is NO comparison. Joe was a better player on the field and a better man off of it.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:22:11 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rr207:

Achilles, c’mon man. Try to keep your pants on.

Wheneve I see you bro, I can smell that something is up. I have a list actually. It reminds though of how how many tools are on this site. Keep the buttplug in for when the Steelers ram rod you and all those pats sheep backers. Talk soon chief.

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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:28:22 PM
I just don’t understand your hate for the patriots. Did you lose money betting them? No. That’s actually impossible because they’re 27-8 ats the last two seasons! Bro do you even gamble? Or are tools like you on here just trying to be cool and predict an outcome and then say I told you so? 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:29:41 PM
The story is from Belichick's mouth ,  he used Wickersham to get his story out ,  he's sick of Brady wanted to keep Jimmy G , then he unloaded him for nothing to screw Kraft 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:32:34 PM
I just don’t understand your hate for the patriots. Did you lose money betting them? No. That’s actually impossible because they’re 27-8 ats the last two seasons! Bro do you even gamble? Or are tools like you on here just trying to be cool and predict an outcome and then say I told you so? 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:38:06 PM

This entire "story" is meaningless. Strong personalities are going to clash occassionally in the work place. If anything, it becomes a "story" in the media right as the playoffs start will only serve to motivate the Patriots even more. This is the definition of fake news - it's not worth reporting. It's simply taking circumstances and making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:49:12 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by JudgeBaylor:

This entire "story" is meaningless. Strong personalities are going to clash occassionally in the work place. If anything, it becomes a "story" in the media right as the playoffs start will only serve to motivate the Patriots even more. This is the definition of fake news - it's not worth reporting. It's simply taking circumstances and making a mountain out of a mole hill.


Fake news ?  This is all from Bill Belichick ... Motivation ?  it's such a horrible league how motivated do you need to be ?
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Posted: 1/5/2018 3:02:59 PM
I’m gonna assume that this article is far from fake news. It’s actually not just about those three mentioned, but also about their sports trainer who had a huge influence on Brady. 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 3:03:18 PM
I think there is some truth to this article. How exagerrated? Who knows... What are the Patriots gonna say," yea all this stuff is true? "

Heard about teams wanting to get Patricia and McDaniels as their next head coach for some time now. Wouldnt be shocked if one of them wont be here next year or both. Gonna say McDaniels will likely be the first one to go. Does Belichick want to rebuild with a new QB and coordinators.. they already had a successor in place with Garropolo but trading him away seems puzzling. Brady aint going to play until he is 45 get real..

This whole power struggle thing between Belichick and Brady is fascinating to me and it is not new.. the Bulls dynasty, the Beatles etc , like all great things it usually always seems to end that way... success becomes your own worst enemy and egos start to trip but its amazing the Patriots success has lasted this long while all those other examples i mentioned were short-lived. 

When you get too successful things start getting to your head. I think Brady is now above the Patriot Way. I am not surprised if this is true that Brady is now above his master. And Robert Kraft adores Brady like he is his godson. I think its only matter of time Bill Belichick retires before Brady does. Belichick knows the end is coming soon and Brady thinks that he can play into his 50's and win a few more titles. Brady runs the show now and he'll realize things wont be the same without Belichick. 


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Posted: 1/5/2018 3:12:54 PM
I think you nailed it Digital. Brady has overstepped his bounds. He actually believes his own BS
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Posted: 1/5/2018 3:17:46 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rr207:

I just don’t understand your hate for the patriots. Did you lose money betting them? No. That’s actually impossible because they’re 27-8 ats the last two seasons! Bro do you even gamble? Or are tools like you on here just trying to be cool and predict an outcome and then say I told you so? 

Who said I hate the Patriots? I totally firhit how incoherent you are man. I'm all about the script and national fake league loves it. I've been right many times and it's mainly based off the bread crumbs they leave us throughout the year. Trust me bud, I don't need to prove anything g to you. Nothing. I'm purely here to let the plays doesn't for themselves. See guys like you, no matter what, will throw money down on the Patriots even though this is clearly the worst defense they've had in years. That's fine for me too. I'm here to help man. Funny as that sounds. If you've been around for all major sports in the last 4 years the record says that. You do what you want and paint whatever picture you and the clowns want to of me and others who don't have the blinders on. Go for it. Just know WHEN the pats fall, that "easy money" you Patriots backers speak of, well.....it will be gone. " do I gamble". Is that the part where you impose your superior capping skills over me. Man, this site....they try so hard. Tools everywhere. I'm done here. See ya in a few weeks. Let the script unfold dingleberry

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Posted: 1/5/2018 3:35:17 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Achilles1629:


Who said I hate the Patriots? I totally firhit how incoherent you are man. I'm all about the script and national fake league loves it. I've been right many times and it's mainly based off the bread crumbs they leave us throughout the year. Trust me bud, I don't need to prove anything g to you. Nothing. I'm purely here to let the plays doesn't for themselves. See guys like you, no matter what, will throw money down on the Patriots even though this is clearly the worst defense they've had in years. That's fine for me too. I'm here to help man. Funny as that sounds. If you've been around for all major sports in the last 4 years the record says that. You do what you want and paint whatever picture you and the clowns want to of me and others who don't have the blinders on. Go for it. Just know WHEN the pats fall, that "easy money" you Patriots backers speak of, well.....it will be gone. " do I gamble". Is that the part where you impose your superior capping skills over me. Man, this site....they try so hard. Tools everywhere. I'm done here. See ya in a few weeks. Let the script unfold dingleberry

   Pitt may just beat NE this year for various reasons ..  improved secondary... weaker NE defense.. ect BUT scripted  
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Posted: 1/5/2018 3:47:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by GENERALWIZDOM:

I think you nailed it Digital. Brady has overstepped his bounds. He actually believes his own BS

the whole deflategate scandal and winning these last two titles especially the greatest Super Bowl comeback of all-time, you have to believe it has gotten to Tommy Terrific's and Robert Kraft's head. He was still under the influence of Master Belichick when the Patriots won their first 3 championships but now the apprentice is more influential than the master. kind of has that Star Wars feels to it you know lol... 
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Posted: 1/5/2018 4:11:50 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

   Pitt may just beat NE this year for various reasons ..  improved secondary... weaker NE defense.. ect BUT scripted  

I'm sure you were one of those guys that's said if the Patriots get home field they win it all no matter what right? The emojis are a nice childish touch by the way "Jr." Of course Pitt is light years better but watch where the money is at when they play. James Harrison, the time they played a few weeks ago, home field, Brady this, Brady that.....yes chief, it's a script to entice all the purists into believing that once again the Patriots get another gift. Ain't happening this year ART. 

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Posted: 1/5/2018 4:56:31 PM

Everything in the article has been getting talked about by Boston sports talk radio for the past few months. None of this is news to pats fans and what do you know? The pats are 13-3 and primed for another deep playoff run. Keep betting on scripts and theories it won’t get you far

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