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@unplucked_gem

 Given the way some of you interact is this a big surprise when others try and avoid the angst and provocation in having much of ANY discussion?

Epstein birthday card from Trump is another left wing conspiracy

@unplucked_gem

 Ok so feel free to give examples where I did anything close to cussing you out based on a reply in a thread. Member to member is the concern not that I agree or disagree with your political position.

@unplucked_gem

 Well you have been confrontational and offensive in a personal nature to me more than once and no I was not addressing you as a member to member attack rather the topic and thread specifically.

I am happy to debate/discuss/disagree all day long but the member to member stuff is what is against the rules and why some of the complainers never get it and understand what is expected.

@unplucked_gem

 So when it is a lib event then let the flood gates open and chop chop but when it might have to do with Trump or a conservative then there is nothing to see and it is a left wing conspiracy theory?

I dont see a comparison between this Russia stuff any more than I do about other partisan crap thrown around like the Obama birth nonsense, these slimy partisan ploys are never ending and are just meant to keep the voter base fixated on politics so that they will vote in the next election to support the narrative.

This Epstein stuff is quite a bit different because it is really not partisan and there was criminal events that happened not mystical who knows what conspiracy fluff. Anyone who says Trump the self proclaimed womanizer cheater was not involved needs to stop coddling him and let the chips fall where they may. Trump was hip deep and has nobody but his stupid self to blame for not being able to control his zero ego conquests.

I paid 3.09 yesterday which is at the mid range paid during the previous admin. Not sure why Trump must daily get into measuring stick contests with the world and it shows that he is more interested in being superior than being a leader and an inspiration.

@unplucked_gem

 Ok so tip toe around a core belief is curious, conservatives are against government interaction and especially the federal government that the capitalist economy is the decider of who wins and loses not the government. Trump allegedly imposing tariffs is pretty much 100% inverse to what conservatives believe and to me it does not work anyway.

Disparity is not a term used in capitalism, any inequality has to either be equalized by efficiencies or technology or that business just does not survive, that is capitalism. If we really were serious about a level playing field and equality and disparity we would stop subsidizing our defense contractors, our farmers and all our ag producers. The reality is that people are clueless about what they support and what their core beliefs are especially since we are not a capitalist economy at all.

If we want to eliminate communist subsidizing of our goods and service the only way to accomplish this is to close trade borders completely and isolate to only service our domestic demand and do not engage with parties which are counter to capitalism, IF we really are interested in disparity, these tariffs are stupid kiddie crap that accomplish nothing..he is not teaching any lessons or making a level playing field when we are subsidizing our own businesses and there are a million ways around tariffs.

@unplucked_gem

 If you are trying to prove a point based on a single item or even hundreds of items that is really not the point. I saw your tea comment but didnt reply since you are quite rude to me and the concept of tea either proving or disproving a macro point is just a bit off in my book. If a business wants to erode margin by not passing along cost increases that is their choice but the point isnt that your tea was cheap and is still cheap after customs and tariff costs. My point was that the CONSUMER absorbs all costs, we as consumers are buying the goods and services so whatever increase in costs is absorbed when you purchase your tea or a cup of starbucks or a e-bike made in China. The buyer is the one who is paying so any and all costs are absorbed by the buyer of the item. 

The largest point though in all of this is as a conservative the core of your economic belief system is that government not be involved in the capitalist structure we have so why is the government arbitrarily and punitively imposing tariffs something that the TNC and any conservative republican would support? If a US business cannot compete with whatever the dynamic is then isnt the principals of capitalism that said business does not deserve to exist? If you are a conservative then tariffs go against your construct and yet here we are Trump playing with his plastic baseball bat trying to be a bully and your side seems to forget about capitalism and having the government out of the economic equation.

@unplucked_gem

 Think through the comment you made above or quoted or whatever I am not sure if you copy pasted that stuff or came up with it yourself. The wording about the consumer not needing to deal with it, how is this even a concept that anyone would try and make? The consumer pays for goods and services, we are the demand for consumption and without it there is no product or commerce. The consumer absorbs every single part of costs including tariffs, shipping, customs fees whatever. When Starbucks said that the cost of coffee beans was going up and that meant higher prices, that means as an input cost goes up so does the cost of the end product/service in a JIT inventory economy.

Any increase in costs is borne by the consumer since the consumer is the buyer of the goods/service in question.

@UNIMAN

 Ok so the usual DEM retort with some spin which has nothing to do with my comment. My comment was conservatives are pro capitalism to any lengths and means. Do you understand what that means and why the entire premise of tariffs is imploded with the underlying concept of capitalism is the core economic foundation of conservatives? You cannot be anti government pro capitalism and also in support of retaliatory anti-capitalism tariffs, you are being a selective hypocrite in supporting tariffs and also being against government involvement in economic activity.

It is almost like conservatives are in support of whatever suits their purpose not in a core value they pretend to support, that means you cannot be both and cannot have both and then be a partisan hack like you are and were above in the reply. The union DEM tag is kind of a multi decade old relic which has less and less meaning as unions are not anywhere near as powerful and prevalent as in prior generations, especially politically.

@UNIMAN

 Who pays for these extra tariffs? Is it the corps? I thought conservatives were pretty much pro capitalism to any lengths and means?

@SarasotaSlim

 No you did not, you are always this way and I dont get how you could call out and cuss at other members and think that it would be fine? It is quite brazen of you to post as you have since being released it is almost like you are testing boundaries and seeing what you can get away with knowing exactly what you are doing. All of this aside it was quite clear what is expected and that you are going to not have another chance.

@SarasotaSlim

 Why are you engaging with the group who you were asked to not and especially several members who have ZERO interest in you posting in their threads? I thought it was quite clear what you were expected to do and not do when you were released. I guess you did not think there would be any line drawn about expectations?

@fubah2

 That is because they offshore production to save costs and Stellantis is a foreign company so when you have very little product being made in the US thats how it goes. 

On a brighter note, that South Park episode was quite amusing, they are willing to say what nobody else will but that everyone else is feeling and thinking. I do not think Trump will be very happy with the depiction they made of him.

@THEMUGG

 I would suggest not doing something you dislike because someone else does it. I would strongly suggest against retaliatory reactive childish messages. I think you are doing wonderfully with the libs this libs that libs libs libs messages that you are fixated on now.

Good retort especially since my response was not partisan. I said the reason for his show was due to a financial decision due to the merger which is ongoing and that Colbert has plenty of comedic content on both sides of the spectrum. He was always bagging on Biden and does a great Sanders impression. He for sure sides with the left but he is much less partisan than you guys are here.

Well lets be smart here and analyze the situation, of course if the DNC had a clean sheet and lots of dirt on Trump or other RNC members they would have broadcast it during the Biden term and they did not do so.

To me the likely truth and reality is that whatever the dirt is here implicates both sides and also likely includes some people out there with money and connections that do not want to be discovered. I'm sure that guys like Clinton, Gates and plenty of senators on both sides were screwing around and were given assurances that they were secure and safe that nothing could come out to risk their fortunes and fame.

The easiest way to have sunk Trump would have been to release the information the year of the election cycle and given that Trump is shown multiple times on multiple occasions with him, that he praised Epstein in the past and people have witnessed him with him that he WAS involved so the fact it did not come out means there are some heavy hitters on the DNC side or in the power circles that squashed the release of the details.

Last thing, Epstein and his circle were running a large financial scheme here and it was not some one or two person small potatoes gig, this was large and expansive. I think both of them kept good records to secure their safety and to give them options if there was risk to their enterprise so I strongly expect there are extensive and detailed records and I would expect videos as proof and we will probably never see any information revealed and for sure not an extensive complete release of all the data.

@THEMUGG

 Wow it would be cool if you were able to stay on topic and not revert to libs or some lib mantra on every single reply you make.

FYI if this merger gets blocked by Trump, Redstone's family will have to pay a 400 MILLION dollar termination fee and the stock will get cut in half. Follow the money...

@unplucked_gem

 If you watch his show he is not as partisan as the players on our site are, he has called out both sides quite frequently and is always looking for the comedic opportunity.

So show me how based on ratings that they would cancel his show? And were you aware or no that there IS a merger needing approval from Trumps group right now it is right in the middle of the process, did you understand this or no?

CBS paid off Trump over one completely stupid lawsuit about doctoring a Harris interview, what a total waste of time and a spectacle sham yet CBS needs this merger or some pockets are going to get picked if Trump makes yet another personal partisan decision based on retribution and spite.