i dont know if you have ever tried to eat healthy, but the food actually costs less. the drinks, juice/milk/gatorade, cost more than coke/sugar drinks, but the food costs less. i go shopping every sunday, heres what i bought today
hungry man dinner 3.00/box frozen pizza 7.00 hot pockets 2.00/box coke 1.50/2L
i now spend about 120 a month on groceries + eating the occasional capriottis or diner, where i was spending well over 200 a month before i went on a diet.
and i dont understand your stance on meds, partly bc it keeps changing. if you believe a person makes a conscious choice to take a rx, why are you complaining?
can you give any examples of a rx that has side effects worse than the ailment that its treating?
can you give me one example of some right wing nut job stance ive taken?
heres a news flash for you, there are about 5 posters on here who post just flat out moronic thoughts that i will debunk. its no coincidence that these posters are all on the fringes
First off am not complaining about anybody taking an rx, thats their friggin choice. You still havent learned how to read and understand what you read still or you are just being a trouble making jerkoff. I said that almost every med i see on tv commericals the side effects {doesnt mean they will happen} are a lot of times worse then the condition you are gonna take the medicine for. Now if you havent seem commericals where they spit out 20 differnt side effects for the drugs, then your a total friggin liar. Next time i see one of the commericals i will write it down for your simple ass. Oh wait, lets talk about most of the mental meds, that all have the warnings of increased suicide. Person might be a little depressed, not suicidal but takes some of those poison meds and the next thing, they are killing themselves. Yeah i would say the side effects are worse then the condition.
Really take your stalker alias ass and go bother somebody else. I hate losers that need to create aliases
i dont know if you have ever tried to eat healthy, but the food actually costs less. the drinks, juice/milk/gatorade, cost more than coke/sugar drinks, but the food costs less. i go shopping every sunday, heres what i bought today
hungry man dinner 3.00/box frozen pizza 7.00 hot pockets 2.00/box coke 1.50/2L
i now spend about 120 a month on groceries + eating the occasional capriottis or diner, where i was spending well over 200 a month before i went on a diet.
and i dont understand your stance on meds, partly bc it keeps changing. if you believe a person makes a conscious choice to take a rx, why are you complaining?
can you give any examples of a rx that has side effects worse than the ailment that its treating?
can you give me one example of some right wing nut job stance ive taken?
heres a news flash for you, there are about 5 posters on here who post just flat out moronic thoughts that i will debunk. its no coincidence that these posters are all on the fringes
First off am not complaining about anybody taking an rx, thats their friggin choice. You still havent learned how to read and understand what you read still or you are just being a trouble making jerkoff. I said that almost every med i see on tv commericals the side effects {doesnt mean they will happen} are a lot of times worse then the condition you are gonna take the medicine for. Now if you havent seem commericals where they spit out 20 differnt side effects for the drugs, then your a total friggin liar. Next time i see one of the commericals i will write it down for your simple ass. Oh wait, lets talk about most of the mental meds, that all have the warnings of increased suicide. Person might be a little depressed, not suicidal but takes some of those poison meds and the next thing, they are killing themselves. Yeah i would say the side effects are worse then the condition.
Really take your stalker alias ass and go bother somebody else. I hate losers that need to create aliases
What is it like to have everyone in your life hate you? I'm really curious. Do you and Esplenade have competitions to see who can be the biggest douche bags on Covers? Is there some side bet we don't know about?
I'm dying to know because I really think if I was as spiteful, angry, and ignorant as you I probably would have killed myself by now.
I really dont think they are trying to be douchebags for a bet...
What is it like to have everyone in your life hate you? I'm really curious. Do you and Esplenade have competitions to see who can be the biggest douche bags on Covers? Is there some side bet we don't know about?
I'm dying to know because I really think if I was as spiteful, angry, and ignorant as you I probably would have killed myself by now.
I really dont think they are trying to be douchebags for a bet...
First off am not complaining about anybody taking an rx, thats their friggin choice. You still havent learned how to read and understand what you read still or you are just being a trouble making jerkoff. I said that almost every med i see on tv commericals the side effects {doesnt mean they will happen} are a lot of times worse then the condition you are gonna take the medicine for. Now if you havent seem commericals where they spit out 20 differnt side effects for the drugs, then your a total friggin liar. Next time i see one of the commericals i will write it down for your simple ass. Oh wait, lets talk about most of the mental meds, that all have the warnings of increased suicide. Person might be a little depressed, not suicidal but takes some of those poison meds and the next thing, they are killing themselves. Yeah i would say the side effects are worse then the condition.
Really take your stalker alias ass and go bother somebody else. I hate losers that need to create aliases
once again, you fail at comprehension. those anti depresion med commercials say theres an increase in suicidal THOUGHTS, not the actual events.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today proposed that makers
of all antidepressant medications update the existing black box warning
on their products' labeling to include warnings about increased risks of
suicidal thinking and behavior, known as suicidality, in young adults
ages 18 to 24 during initial treatment (generally the first one to two
months).
but lets look at this from a pragmatic viewpoint, young adults taking these drugs MAY go through a rough stretch but in the end will return to a "normal" mental health stage. whats different in this than a junkie going through withdrawal? are you opposed to junkies getting cleaned bc they may have a rough stretch before things get better?
but heres the kicker, guess whats happened to the suicide rate of these young adults? NOTHING
this is from a study from 1999-2005
"In the current study, researchers found little or no change in the
suicide rates for three other age groups: 10 to 19, 20 to 29, and over
65."
so just to conclude, there is no factual evidence to support the increase in actual suicides for those who take these drugs. these druges take someone whos mental health is so messed up they need medication, but in young adults they may go through a rough patch before getting better, and you think this is a bad thing? you think taking these drugs are a net negative on the person?
First off am not complaining about anybody taking an rx, thats their friggin choice. You still havent learned how to read and understand what you read still or you are just being a trouble making jerkoff. I said that almost every med i see on tv commericals the side effects {doesnt mean they will happen} are a lot of times worse then the condition you are gonna take the medicine for. Now if you havent seem commericals where they spit out 20 differnt side effects for the drugs, then your a total friggin liar. Next time i see one of the commericals i will write it down for your simple ass. Oh wait, lets talk about most of the mental meds, that all have the warnings of increased suicide. Person might be a little depressed, not suicidal but takes some of those poison meds and the next thing, they are killing themselves. Yeah i would say the side effects are worse then the condition.
Really take your stalker alias ass and go bother somebody else. I hate losers that need to create aliases
once again, you fail at comprehension. those anti depresion med commercials say theres an increase in suicidal THOUGHTS, not the actual events.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today proposed that makers
of all antidepressant medications update the existing black box warning
on their products' labeling to include warnings about increased risks of
suicidal thinking and behavior, known as suicidality, in young adults
ages 18 to 24 during initial treatment (generally the first one to two
months).
but lets look at this from a pragmatic viewpoint, young adults taking these drugs MAY go through a rough stretch but in the end will return to a "normal" mental health stage. whats different in this than a junkie going through withdrawal? are you opposed to junkies getting cleaned bc they may have a rough stretch before things get better?
but heres the kicker, guess whats happened to the suicide rate of these young adults? NOTHING
this is from a study from 1999-2005
"In the current study, researchers found little or no change in the
suicide rates for three other age groups: 10 to 19, 20 to 29, and over
65."
so just to conclude, there is no factual evidence to support the increase in actual suicides for those who take these drugs. these druges take someone whos mental health is so messed up they need medication, but in young adults they may go through a rough patch before getting better, and you think this is a bad thing? you think taking these drugs are a net negative on the person?
and another thing, there are tons of people who indeed endup coming down with the side effects of a lot of the drugs out there, so bite me
no one is saying no one gets the side effects
YOU are the one saying the side effects are worse than the initial condition. i asked you for an example, you gave one, i thoroughly disproved your example, and then you resort to changing the subject and spewing gibberish. you could just try saying, im sorry, i was wrong, next time.
and another thing, there are tons of people who indeed endup coming down with the side effects of a lot of the drugs out there, so bite me
no one is saying no one gets the side effects
YOU are the one saying the side effects are worse than the initial condition. i asked you for an example, you gave one, i thoroughly disproved your example, and then you resort to changing the subject and spewing gibberish. you could just try saying, im sorry, i was wrong, next time.
Hey genius a lot of the meds side effects state, internal bleeding, stroke, heart attack, all of which are worse then the condition you are taking the meds for. Am sorry you dont realize this, but its a fact and the next time i happen to catch a tv ad, i will write down all the side effects.
Hey genius a lot of the meds side effects state, internal bleeding, stroke, heart attack, all of which are worse then the condition you are taking the meds for. Am sorry you dont realize this, but its a fact and the next time i happen to catch a tv ad, i will write down all the side effects.
Hey genius a lot of the meds side effects state, internal bleeding, stroke, heart attack, all of which are worse then the condition you are taking the meds for. Am sorry you dont realize this, but its a fact and the next time i happen to catch a tv ad, i will write down all the side effects.
Actually the reason that these "side effects" are listed is so that pathetic fucks like you can't sue for every little thing that may happen. For instance you take tylenol and drop dead the next day, your family can't run and sue the makers of tylenol. I know this is a huge disappointment for your stupid ass, but it is reality. Anyone and everyone is looking to sue these days. Believe it or not McDonald's has to write WARNING WARNING WARNING HOT HOT HOT on every cup of coffee because someone didn't realize that coffee was hurt and burned themselves.
Hey genius a lot of the meds side effects state, internal bleeding, stroke, heart attack, all of which are worse then the condition you are taking the meds for. Am sorry you dont realize this, but its a fact and the next time i happen to catch a tv ad, i will write down all the side effects.
Actually the reason that these "side effects" are listed is so that pathetic fucks like you can't sue for every little thing that may happen. For instance you take tylenol and drop dead the next day, your family can't run and sue the makers of tylenol. I know this is a huge disappointment for your stupid ass, but it is reality. Anyone and everyone is looking to sue these days. Believe it or not McDonald's has to write WARNING WARNING WARNING HOT HOT HOT on every cup of coffee because someone didn't realize that coffee was hurt and burned themselves.
Hey genius a lot of the meds side effects state, internal bleeding, stroke, heart attack, all of which are worse then the condition you are taking the meds for. Am sorry you dont realize this, but its a fact and the next time i happen to catch a tv ad, i will write down all the side effects.
why dont you give me an example? if there are soooo many of them, why cant you give a specific example? could it be there isnt one, but you really want to believe there is bc it makes your viewpoint feel better?
and remember, youve already swung and missed big time with the SSRI drugs.
Hey genius a lot of the meds side effects state, internal bleeding, stroke, heart attack, all of which are worse then the condition you are taking the meds for. Am sorry you dont realize this, but its a fact and the next time i happen to catch a tv ad, i will write down all the side effects.
why dont you give me an example? if there are soooo many of them, why cant you give a specific example? could it be there isnt one, but you really want to believe there is bc it makes your viewpoint feel better?
and remember, youve already swung and missed big time with the SSRI drugs.
Not taking meds = depression Taking meds = suicide
Which is worse the initial condition or the side effect?
where are you getting this side effect from? if you are drinking cds koolaid, you might want to contact your local poison control agency.
ask me a real question based on science and facts, not on some completely made up notion, then ill answer
and for the record, those drugs cause some users to have an increase in suicidal THOUGHTS, not in actual suicides. i already, in an overly redundant fashion for those with reading comprehension problems, explained this fallacy above in post 59. id expect this from some on here, but not from you dl
Not taking meds = depression Taking meds = suicide
Which is worse the initial condition or the side effect?
where are you getting this side effect from? if you are drinking cds koolaid, you might want to contact your local poison control agency.
ask me a real question based on science and facts, not on some completely made up notion, then ill answer
and for the record, those drugs cause some users to have an increase in suicidal THOUGHTS, not in actual suicides. i already, in an overly redundant fashion for those with reading comprehension problems, explained this fallacy above in post 59. id expect this from some on here, but not from you dl
In my expience of working with psychiatric patients a depressed person will typically not become suicidal when given anti depressants. But a suicidal person given antidepressants can result in an increase of risk of harm to self.
I also however believe in my experience that severely depressed people are too depressed to kill themselves, so when they start to get better is when they are at risk. It is similar to the hypo-manic State of someone with bipolar.
For the record my statement in that post was an untrue simplification Iof the issue as CD was framing it and in a similar manner to woop stating that marijuana cures cancer.
So part of it was to join in the Lies and misinformation that I the signature calling card of a woop thread...
Both guys swung and missed big time and I was hoping that woop would swing and miss again on a pitch in the dirt and he of course did.
In my expience of working with psychiatric patients a depressed person will typically not become suicidal when given anti depressants. But a suicidal person given antidepressants can result in an increase of risk of harm to self.
I also however believe in my experience that severely depressed people are too depressed to kill themselves, so when they start to get better is when they are at risk. It is similar to the hypo-manic State of someone with bipolar.
For the record my statement in that post was an untrue simplification Iof the issue as CD was framing it and in a similar manner to woop stating that marijuana cures cancer.
So part of it was to join in the Lies and misinformation that I the signature calling card of a woop thread...
Both guys swung and missed big time and I was hoping that woop would swing and miss again on a pitch in the dirt and he of course did.
Actually the reason that these "side effects" are listed is so that pathetic fucks like you can't sue for every little thing that may happen. For instance you take tylenol and drop dead the next day, your family can't run and sue the makers of tylenol. I know this is a huge disappointment for your stupid ass, but it is reality. Anyone and everyone is looking to sue these days. Believe it or not McDonald's has to write WARNING WARNING WARNING HOT HOT HOT on every cup of coffee because someone didn't realize that coffee was hurt and burned themselves.
No mr pharmacist you are wrong. Sure the companies want to protect themselves from lawsuits, but lets see if they didnt create meds that had worse side effects then the actual problem, there wouldnt be any lawsuits, would there? So as usual, you missed the whole point. The side effects they list are real and could happen, thats the whole point.
Wow i cant believe any store is actually gonna pay you to dispense meds Thank God your dad paid off the college to get you passed
Actually the reason that these "side effects" are listed is so that pathetic fucks like you can't sue for every little thing that may happen. For instance you take tylenol and drop dead the next day, your family can't run and sue the makers of tylenol. I know this is a huge disappointment for your stupid ass, but it is reality. Anyone and everyone is looking to sue these days. Believe it or not McDonald's has to write WARNING WARNING WARNING HOT HOT HOT on every cup of coffee because someone didn't realize that coffee was hurt and burned themselves.
No mr pharmacist you are wrong. Sure the companies want to protect themselves from lawsuits, but lets see if they didnt create meds that had worse side effects then the actual problem, there wouldnt be any lawsuits, would there? So as usual, you missed the whole point. The side effects they list are real and could happen, thats the whole point.
Wow i cant believe any store is actually gonna pay you to dispense meds Thank God your dad paid off the college to get you passed
What is funny is Depeche the marijuana advocate has blatently bad grammar and English in each of the above posts. My how it is sad how rotted people's brains can become.
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You spelled "blatantly" wrong though you fucking idiot..
Jesus christ.. you blithering moron
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Classic Covers. Please don't let spelling get in the way of pharamaceutical research, especially as you take out time from your research to discpline others in the fine points of the English language.
What is funny is Depeche the marijuana advocate has blatently bad grammar and English in each of the above posts. My how it is sad how rotted people's brains can become.
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You spelled "blatantly" wrong though you fucking idiot..
Jesus christ.. you blithering moron
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Classic Covers. Please don't let spelling get in the way of pharamaceutical research, especially as you take out time from your research to discpline others in the fine points of the English language.
In my expience of working with psychiatric patients a depressed person will typically not become suicidal when given anti depressants. But a suicidal person given antidepressants can result in an increase of risk of harm to self.
I also however believe in my experience that severely depressed people are too depressed to kill themselves, so when they start to get better is when they are at risk. It is similar to the hypo-manic State of someone with bipolar.
For the record my statement in that post was an untrue simplification Iof the issue as CD was framing it and in a similar manner to woop stating that marijuana cures cancer.
So part of it was to join in the Lies and misinformation that I the signature calling card of a woop thread...
Both guys swung and missed big time and I was hoping that woop would swing and miss again on a pitch in the dirt and he of course did.
thanks for the explanation.
what you are saying makes sense anecdotaly and i have 0 knowledge about depression, but the FDA warning for "suicidality" is only for 18-24yos, does your experience match?
also, i knew this would be the only drug where there could be some grey area, but based on the FDAs stance on the drugs, and the suicide rate stats, which we both know (not sure if cd does) is not the end all be all bc attempts is the real stat that matters, suggests cds claim is wrong.
i could add a caveat to the claim, disregarding SSRIs, there arent any meds where the side effects are worse than the actual condition and would be damn near 100% right, but ill stick to my guns on this one unless presented with contradictory facts.
In my expience of working with psychiatric patients a depressed person will typically not become suicidal when given anti depressants. But a suicidal person given antidepressants can result in an increase of risk of harm to self.
I also however believe in my experience that severely depressed people are too depressed to kill themselves, so when they start to get better is when they are at risk. It is similar to the hypo-manic State of someone with bipolar.
For the record my statement in that post was an untrue simplification Iof the issue as CD was framing it and in a similar manner to woop stating that marijuana cures cancer.
So part of it was to join in the Lies and misinformation that I the signature calling card of a woop thread...
Both guys swung and missed big time and I was hoping that woop would swing and miss again on a pitch in the dirt and he of course did.
thanks for the explanation.
what you are saying makes sense anecdotaly and i have 0 knowledge about depression, but the FDA warning for "suicidality" is only for 18-24yos, does your experience match?
also, i knew this would be the only drug where there could be some grey area, but based on the FDAs stance on the drugs, and the suicide rate stats, which we both know (not sure if cd does) is not the end all be all bc attempts is the real stat that matters, suggests cds claim is wrong.
i could add a caveat to the claim, disregarding SSRIs, there arent any meds where the side effects are worse than the actual condition and would be damn near 100% right, but ill stick to my guns on this one unless presented with contradictory facts.
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