I have already stated many times how every state can fix their pension funds. Stop letting employees pad their pensions with overtime and guess what problem is solved and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra, but these spinless politicians wont pass this measure.
I have no problem with states when they want to change salaries, pensions or even healthcare with new people coming on the job, that way those new people can decide if they still want to take the job. Where i have a problem is when the states want to take away things people already worked for, thats not right, even thou i know some of you dont give a shit about that, its still not right. Like i said its one thing to know you arent going to get something when you start your new job, but to work for years being told you were going to get such and such, only to have some john wayne governor want to just take it away is a complete joke. All i keep hearing form alot of you is private sector this and private sector that, well if the public sector is so great, then why didnt all of you go that route then?
The real fucking crooks in our country is all the corporations who are moving jobs overseas, but some of you just cant seem to grasp that yet.
I have already stated many times how every state can fix their pension funds. Stop letting employees pad their pensions with overtime and guess what problem is solved and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra, but these spinless politicians wont pass this measure.
I have no problem with states when they want to change salaries, pensions or even healthcare with new people coming on the job, that way those new people can decide if they still want to take the job. Where i have a problem is when the states want to take away things people already worked for, thats not right, even thou i know some of you dont give a shit about that, its still not right. Like i said its one thing to know you arent going to get something when you start your new job, but to work for years being told you were going to get such and such, only to have some john wayne governor want to just take it away is a complete joke. All i keep hearing form alot of you is private sector this and private sector that, well if the public sector is so great, then why didnt all of you go that route then?
The real fucking crooks in our country is all the corporations who are moving jobs overseas, but some of you just cant seem to grasp that yet.
First thing they need to do is stop the padding of the pensions and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra. The politicans need to pass this law and the unions are just gonna have to suck this one up. Pensions werent designed to pay you more in retirment then when you were actually on the job. Time for politicians to stop this insane practice that should have never happened in the first place.
Like i said if states or cities want to change things for workers thats fine, change it for new people coming on, not people who already put in their time working for what they were told they would get.
Tell me Rick if at the end of the week, you were supposed to make 1k, but when you went to pick up your check it was only for 500, would you just roll over and say thats okay? You would be mad as hell and would be storming into your bosses officewanting your other 500 bucks that you worked for. See it doesnt matter if this is in the public sector or private sector, if your told what your gonna make and you work the hours then you should damn well be paid those amounts.
Like i have already said if employers want to reduce wages and benefits, then let the employees know before they actually perform the work, that way they can decide if they want that job.
Population going up while the job base is going down. This is gonna keep happening until the politicians get out of bed with the crooks and say enough is enough, the country is more important then filling their greedy pockets with cash.
First thing they need to do is stop the padding of the pensions and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra. The politicans need to pass this law and the unions are just gonna have to suck this one up. Pensions werent designed to pay you more in retirment then when you were actually on the job. Time for politicians to stop this insane practice that should have never happened in the first place.
Like i said if states or cities want to change things for workers thats fine, change it for new people coming on, not people who already put in their time working for what they were told they would get.
Tell me Rick if at the end of the week, you were supposed to make 1k, but when you went to pick up your check it was only for 500, would you just roll over and say thats okay? You would be mad as hell and would be storming into your bosses officewanting your other 500 bucks that you worked for. See it doesnt matter if this is in the public sector or private sector, if your told what your gonna make and you work the hours then you should damn well be paid those amounts.
Like i have already said if employers want to reduce wages and benefits, then let the employees know before they actually perform the work, that way they can decide if they want that job.
Population going up while the job base is going down. This is gonna keep happening until the politicians get out of bed with the crooks and say enough is enough, the country is more important then filling their greedy pockets with cash.
Then why the hell didnt you go out and get one of those public sector jobs, if they are so great? All i keep hearing is guys comparing public sector jobs to private sector jobs. They are 2 differnt animals. Show me a public sector job, where the workers can earn millions in bonuses, like the fucks on wallstreet do?
Then why the hell didnt you go out and get one of those public sector jobs, if they are so great? All i keep hearing is guys comparing public sector jobs to private sector jobs. They are 2 differnt animals. Show me a public sector job, where the workers can earn millions in bonuses, like the fucks on wallstreet do?
First thing they need to do is stop the padding of the pensions and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra. The politicans need to pass this law and the unions are just gonna have to suck this one up. Pensions werent designed to pay you more in retirment then when you were actually on the job. Time for politicians to stop this insane practice that should have never happened in the first place.
Like i said if states or cities want to change things for workers thats fine, change it for new people coming on, not people who already put in their time working for what they were told they would get.
Tell me Rick if at the end of the week, you were supposed to make 1k, but when you went to pick up your check it was only for 500, would you just roll over and say thats okay? You would be mad as hell and would be storming into your bosses officewanting your other 500 bucks that you worked for. See it doesnt matter if this is in the public sector or private sector, if your told what your gonna make and you work the hours then you should damn well be paid those amounts.
Like i have already said if employers want to reduce wages and benefits, then let the employees know before they actually perform the work, that way they can decide if they want that job.
Population going up while the job base is going down. This is gonna keep happening until the politicians get out of bed with the crooks and say enough is enough, the country is more important then filling their greedy pockets with cash.
First thing they need to do is stop the padding of the pensions and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra. The politicans need to pass this law and the unions are just gonna have to suck this one up. Pensions werent designed to pay you more in retirment then when you were actually on the job. Time for politicians to stop this insane practice that should have never happened in the first place.
Like i said if states or cities want to change things for workers thats fine, change it for new people coming on, not people who already put in their time working for what they were told they would get.
Tell me Rick if at the end of the week, you were supposed to make 1k, but when you went to pick up your check it was only for 500, would you just roll over and say thats okay? You would be mad as hell and would be storming into your bosses officewanting your other 500 bucks that you worked for. See it doesnt matter if this is in the public sector or private sector, if your told what your gonna make and you work the hours then you should damn well be paid those amounts.
Like i have already said if employers want to reduce wages and benefits, then let the employees know before they actually perform the work, that way they can decide if they want that job.
Population going up while the job base is going down. This is gonna keep happening until the politicians get out of bed with the crooks and say enough is enough, the country is more important then filling their greedy pockets with cash.
A little history about public sector jobs is in order. About 50 years ago when the USA had good paying manufacturing jobs people didn't go for Govt jobs because they were actually very low paying. So in order to get good people in public service they started making sweetheart deals with Govt union employees to raise the pay and benifits so the Govt could get good people. Now the shoe is on the other foot where a Govt. employee actually makes on average $5000 more that a private sector worker per year. And their benefits are way out of wack with reality. As they say the chickens have come home to roost now with state Govts are in the hole for billions of dollars and the biggest cost to most of these states is Govt. employee pensions and benefits. Lets wake up people no matter how much you tax people it will never be enough to pay all these pensions and benefits. If taxing people helped, New Jersey would be swimming in money since its the highest tax population in the country per capita so why is NJ short billions of dollars?
A little history about public sector jobs is in order. About 50 years ago when the USA had good paying manufacturing jobs people didn't go for Govt jobs because they were actually very low paying. So in order to get good people in public service they started making sweetheart deals with Govt union employees to raise the pay and benifits so the Govt could get good people. Now the shoe is on the other foot where a Govt. employee actually makes on average $5000 more that a private sector worker per year. And their benefits are way out of wack with reality. As they say the chickens have come home to roost now with state Govts are in the hole for billions of dollars and the biggest cost to most of these states is Govt. employee pensions and benefits. Lets wake up people no matter how much you tax people it will never be enough to pay all these pensions and benefits. If taxing people helped, New Jersey would be swimming in money since its the highest tax population in the country per capita so why is NJ short billions of dollars?
let their pensions go unfunded and default....sorry no bailout.....do not collect $200 when you pass go......sorry, no lawsuits either......want answers? ask your union where the money is
fucking public union workers......
let their pensions go unfunded and default....sorry no bailout.....do not collect $200 when you pass go......sorry, no lawsuits either......want answers? ask your union where the money is
fucking public union workers......
First thing they need to do is stop the padding of the pensions and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra. The politicans need to pass this law and the unions are just gonna have to suck this one up. Pensions werent designed to pay you more in retirment then when you were actually on the job. Time for politicians to stop this insane practice that should have never happened in the first place.
Like i said if states or cities want to change things for workers thats fine, change it for new people coming on, not people who already put in their time working for what they were told they would get.
Tell me Rick if at the end of the week, you were supposed to make 1k, but when you went to pick up your check it was only for 500, would you just roll over and say thats okay? You would be mad as hell and would be storming into your bosses officewanting your other 500 bucks that you worked for. See it doesnt matter if this is in the public sector or private sector, if your told what your gonna make and you work the hours then you should damn well be paid those amounts.
Like i have already said if employers want to reduce wages and benefits, then let the employees know before they actually perform the work, that way they can decide if they want that job.
Population going up while the job base is going down. This is gonna keep happening until the politicians get out of bed with the crooks and say enough is enough, the country is more important then filling their greedy pockets with cash.
sounds like what happens to my check everytime taxes go up so I can pay for some other persons retirement, welfare, health insurance etc etc etc
pay your own God damn way and I will pay mine
First thing they need to do is stop the padding of the pensions and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra. The politicans need to pass this law and the unions are just gonna have to suck this one up. Pensions werent designed to pay you more in retirment then when you were actually on the job. Time for politicians to stop this insane practice that should have never happened in the first place.
Like i said if states or cities want to change things for workers thats fine, change it for new people coming on, not people who already put in their time working for what they were told they would get.
Tell me Rick if at the end of the week, you were supposed to make 1k, but when you went to pick up your check it was only for 500, would you just roll over and say thats okay? You would be mad as hell and would be storming into your bosses officewanting your other 500 bucks that you worked for. See it doesnt matter if this is in the public sector or private sector, if your told what your gonna make and you work the hours then you should damn well be paid those amounts.
Like i have already said if employers want to reduce wages and benefits, then let the employees know before they actually perform the work, that way they can decide if they want that job.
Population going up while the job base is going down. This is gonna keep happening until the politicians get out of bed with the crooks and say enough is enough, the country is more important then filling their greedy pockets with cash.
sounds like what happens to my check everytime taxes go up so I can pay for some other persons retirement, welfare, health insurance etc etc etc
pay your own God damn way and I will pay mine
First thing they need to do is stop the padding of the pensions and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra. The politicans need to pass this law and the unions are just gonna have to suck this one up. Pensions werent designed to pay you more in retirment then when you were actually on the job. Time for politicians to stop this insane practice that should have never happened in the first place.
Like i said if states or cities want to change things for workers thats fine, change it for new people coming on, not people who already put in their time working for what they were told they would get.
Tell me Rick if at the end of the week, you were supposed to make 1k, but when you went to pick up your check it was only for 500, would you just roll over and say thats okay? You would be mad as hell and would be storming into your bosses officewanting your other 500 bucks that you worked for. See it doesnt matter if this is in the public sector or private sector, if your told what your gonna make and you work the hours then you should damn well be paid those amounts.
Like i have already said if employers want to reduce wages and benefits, then let the employees know before they actually perform the work, that way they can decide if they want that job.
Population going up while the job base is going down. This is gonna keep happening until the politicians get out of bed with the crooks and say enough is enough, the country is more important then filling their greedy pockets with cash.
Your paycheck analogy might be relevant, except guess what, you're not working. You are sitting on your ass collecting a pension check. And most likely, you retired a good decade or two before anyone else in the private sector would have. I don't know of any private sector jobs where you can retire after 20 or 25 years of working, that's just not realistic. Why should anyone that is a public sector worker and gets paid by my taxes have that luxury? So guess what, if your pension is underfunded and your benefits drop, you might need to go get a part time job, or start working again... that's what the rest of the country does if their retirement benefits drop because their 401k or IRA went down. Grow up.
And while I'm at it, let me address some of the other points you keep stumbling to make in your idiotic rants:
- "Why didn't I just work in the public sector if the benefits are sooo great?" I don't have the patience to teach kids and putting out fires seems like a waste of intelligence. Besides, I don't think the answer to fixing underfunded govt and union pensions is for everyone to work in the public sector. Somehow I think cutting benefits and bringing them back in line with the private sector makes the most sense, but maybe that's just me.
- "Why aren't you mad at the greedy corporations that move jobs overseas?" See in America we believe in this thing called capitalism. So a company will try and cut their expenses as much as possible to maximize value and profit for the shareholder. Do I like jobs going overseas... no, but we can't be a free market society and mandate that companies only hire domestic labor. Ironically, it is the inflated cost of doing business because of higher taxes and union labor that pushed out most of the jobs you are referring to. Look at the auto unions if you want a prime example of killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
"Why do you care about union benefits, the fucks on Wall Street get million dollar bonuses"? Well, see the bonuses on Wall Street come from profits of a private company, not tax dollars. The bonuses they pay out don't affect my paycheck directly. And just so you know, Wall Street makes up about 1/10th of 1 percent of the private labor market, so it's not really a relevant comparison of private sector jobs. On average, the public sector worker makes about $40 an hour in wages and benefits. The private sector worker makes about $28. In 2009 for the first time there were more public sector workers making over 100k than private sector workers. These discrepancies are disturbing when you realize that our taxes are being used to overpay public workers while they work, and then allow them to retire early and over compensate them during retirement.
Frankly I don't care what benefits you were promised. Those promises were made on unrealistic expectations of future returns. If the funds aren't there, and cuts need to be made, your benefits might have to go down. Bernie Madoff made a lot of promises to his clients, and we both know how that turned out. Union and govt pensions are ponzi schemes too, it's just the taxpayer getting fleeced.
First thing they need to do is stop the padding of the pensions and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra. The politicans need to pass this law and the unions are just gonna have to suck this one up. Pensions werent designed to pay you more in retirment then when you were actually on the job. Time for politicians to stop this insane practice that should have never happened in the first place.
Like i said if states or cities want to change things for workers thats fine, change it for new people coming on, not people who already put in their time working for what they were told they would get.
Tell me Rick if at the end of the week, you were supposed to make 1k, but when you went to pick up your check it was only for 500, would you just roll over and say thats okay? You would be mad as hell and would be storming into your bosses officewanting your other 500 bucks that you worked for. See it doesnt matter if this is in the public sector or private sector, if your told what your gonna make and you work the hours then you should damn well be paid those amounts.
Like i have already said if employers want to reduce wages and benefits, then let the employees know before they actually perform the work, that way they can decide if they want that job.
Population going up while the job base is going down. This is gonna keep happening until the politicians get out of bed with the crooks and say enough is enough, the country is more important then filling their greedy pockets with cash.
Your paycheck analogy might be relevant, except guess what, you're not working. You are sitting on your ass collecting a pension check. And most likely, you retired a good decade or two before anyone else in the private sector would have. I don't know of any private sector jobs where you can retire after 20 or 25 years of working, that's just not realistic. Why should anyone that is a public sector worker and gets paid by my taxes have that luxury? So guess what, if your pension is underfunded and your benefits drop, you might need to go get a part time job, or start working again... that's what the rest of the country does if their retirement benefits drop because their 401k or IRA went down. Grow up.
And while I'm at it, let me address some of the other points you keep stumbling to make in your idiotic rants:
- "Why didn't I just work in the public sector if the benefits are sooo great?" I don't have the patience to teach kids and putting out fires seems like a waste of intelligence. Besides, I don't think the answer to fixing underfunded govt and union pensions is for everyone to work in the public sector. Somehow I think cutting benefits and bringing them back in line with the private sector makes the most sense, but maybe that's just me.
- "Why aren't you mad at the greedy corporations that move jobs overseas?" See in America we believe in this thing called capitalism. So a company will try and cut their expenses as much as possible to maximize value and profit for the shareholder. Do I like jobs going overseas... no, but we can't be a free market society and mandate that companies only hire domestic labor. Ironically, it is the inflated cost of doing business because of higher taxes and union labor that pushed out most of the jobs you are referring to. Look at the auto unions if you want a prime example of killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
"Why do you care about union benefits, the fucks on Wall Street get million dollar bonuses"? Well, see the bonuses on Wall Street come from profits of a private company, not tax dollars. The bonuses they pay out don't affect my paycheck directly. And just so you know, Wall Street makes up about 1/10th of 1 percent of the private labor market, so it's not really a relevant comparison of private sector jobs. On average, the public sector worker makes about $40 an hour in wages and benefits. The private sector worker makes about $28. In 2009 for the first time there were more public sector workers making over 100k than private sector workers. These discrepancies are disturbing when you realize that our taxes are being used to overpay public workers while they work, and then allow them to retire early and over compensate them during retirement.
Frankly I don't care what benefits you were promised. Those promises were made on unrealistic expectations of future returns. If the funds aren't there, and cuts need to be made, your benefits might have to go down. Bernie Madoff made a lot of promises to his clients, and we both know how that turned out. Union and govt pensions are ponzi schemes too, it's just the taxpayer getting fleeced.
I have already stated many times how every state can fix their pension funds. Stop letting employees pad their pensions with overtime and guess what problem is solved and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra, but these spinless politicians wont pass this measure.
I have no problem with states when they want to change salaries, pensions or even healthcare with new people coming on the job, that way those new people can decide if they still want to take the job. Where i have a problem is when the states want to take away things people already worked for, thats not right, even thou i know some of you dont give a shit about that, its still not right. Like i said its one thing to know you arent going to get something when you start your new job, but to work for years being told you were going to get such and such, only to have some john wayne governor want to just take it away is a complete joke. All i keep hearing form alot of you is private sector this and private sector that, well if the public sector is so great, then why didnt all of you go that route then?
The real fucking crooks in our country is all the corporations who are moving jobs overseas, but some of you just cant seem to grasp that yet.
I have already stated many times how every state can fix their pension funds. Stop letting employees pad their pensions with overtime and guess what problem is solved and taxpayers wont have to pay anything extra, but these spinless politicians wont pass this measure.
I have no problem with states when they want to change salaries, pensions or even healthcare with new people coming on the job, that way those new people can decide if they still want to take the job. Where i have a problem is when the states want to take away things people already worked for, thats not right, even thou i know some of you dont give a shit about that, its still not right. Like i said its one thing to know you arent going to get something when you start your new job, but to work for years being told you were going to get such and such, only to have some john wayne governor want to just take it away is a complete joke. All i keep hearing form alot of you is private sector this and private sector that, well if the public sector is so great, then why didnt all of you go that route then?
The real fucking crooks in our country is all the corporations who are moving jobs overseas, but some of you just cant seem to grasp that yet.
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