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I meant , it sound like a free pick's tatic from a tout.... to me ! 

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2014 - 1:09 AM ET #27

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I meant , it sound like a free pick's tatic from a tout.... to me ! 

Agree.... If not, He sure is taking the approach of trying to sound like a "Sports Consultant" Hahaha... Absolute Blow Out Winners!!! -Steve Stevens 
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I meant , it sound like a free pick's tatic from a tout.... to me ! 

Agree.... If not, He sure is taking the approach of trying to sound like a "Sports Consultant" Hahaha... Absolute Blow Out Winners!!! -Steve Stevens 
 
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I will be watching this system closely
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Quote Originally Posted by CapperSharp:

NFL Football Betting Basics
Use key angles to identify hidden pro football betting opportunities and fatten your bank roll

Angle #1: The Rebound

This is an angle that's been around for a long time in all sports. Teams that look to be in bad recent form are a good bet to rebound in their next game. In this case, we are looking for teams that lost badly in their last game. Badly is defined as losing against the spread by 10 or more points.

Next, we are looking for our down and out team to be playing a team that is flying high. Flying high is defined as a team that won against the spread by ten points or more. We are betting on the team that lost badly last week to rebound this week. Our minimum 'spread" in this case would be 20 (one lost against the spread by 10, while the other covered by 10). The bigger the 'spread," the better the wagering opportunity. Just remember, we are not talking about margins of victory or defeat here. Rather, we are talking about margins by which the spread was either covered, or not covered.

Angle #2: The Anti-Wager:

Here, we are looking for teams that either won or lost big last week without regard to the point spread. We are looking to bet against teams the won big if they are favored this week. We are also looking to bet for teams that lost in blowout fashion should they be the underdogs this week. An especially appealing wager using this angle would be to play a team that got blown out as a favorite last week, and is an underdog this week.

The beauty of this wager is that it brings a lot of value, for the betting public (a) loves favorites, and (b) it goes against what the masses will logically (and wrongly) be thinking.

Angle #3: Give the Offense a Rest

The public loves to bet on high scoring offenses. We are going to bet against any team with an offense that has racked up big yardage and point totals for two consecutive weeks if they are favored in their next game. Teams in this situation have proven, for a variety of reasons, that they will eventually let down. We want to exploit the letdown.

Angle #4: Good Defenses Beat Good Offenses

As sports investors, we are interested in winning. Sometimes, winning isn't pretty. Pretty teams with good offenses are very fun to watch. Personally, I would rather win that be entertained. When a good offense meets up with a good defense, play the defense every time.

Angle #5: The Streak Rule

No, we aren't referring to college pranks here. We are talking about teams that are streaking in either a good or a bad way. This is a very simple angle: Bet against teams that have won three in a row, and bet for teams that have lost three in a row. Underdogs simply bring so much value to the table that it is a no-brainer to play them whenever 
I didn't have time to read all of this.....do you have any picks in this convoluted hot mess? 
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NFL Football Betting Basics
Use key angles to identify hidden pro football betting opportunities and fatten your bank roll

Angle #1: The Rebound

This is an angle that's been around for a long time in all sports. Teams that look to be in bad recent form are a good bet to rebound in their next game. In this case, we are looking for teams that lost badly in their last game. Badly is defined as losing against the spread by 10 or more points.

Next, we are looking for our down and out team to be playing a team that is flying high. Flying high is defined as a team that won against the spread by ten points or more. We are betting on the team that lost badly last week to rebound this week. Our minimum 'spread" in this case would be 20 (one lost against the spread by 10, while the other covered by 10). The bigger the 'spread," the better the wagering opportunity. Just remember, we are not talking about margins of victory or defeat here. Rather, we are talking about margins by which the spread was either covered, or not covered.

Angle #2: The Anti-Wager:

Here, we are looking for teams that either won or lost big last week without regard to the point spread. We are looking to bet against teams the won big if they are favored this week. We are also looking to bet for teams that lost in blowout fashion should they be the underdogs this week. An especially appealing wager using this angle would be to play a team that got blown out as a favorite last week, and is an underdog this week.

The beauty of this wager is that it brings a lot of value, for the betting public (a) loves favorites, and (b) it goes against what the masses will logically (and wrongly) be thinking.

Angle #3: Give the Offense a Rest

The public loves to bet on high scoring offenses. We are going to bet against any team with an offense that has racked up big yardage and point totals for two consecutive weeks if they are favored in their next game. Teams in this situation have proven, for a variety of reasons, that they will eventually let down. We want to exploit the letdown.

Angle #4: Good Defenses Beat Good Offenses

As sports investors, we are interested in winning. Sometimes, winning isn't pretty. Pretty teams with good offenses are very fun to watch. Personally, I would rather win that be entertained. When a good offense meets up with a good defense, play the defense every time.

Angle #5: The Streak Rule

No, we aren't referring to college pranks here. We are talking about teams that are streaking in either a good or a bad way. This is a very simple angle: Bet against teams that have won three in a row, and bet for teams that have lost three in a row. Underdogs simply bring so much value to the table that it is a no-brainer to play them whenever 
I didn't have time to read all of this.....do you have any picks in this convoluted hot mess? 
 
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Posted: Dec. 11, 2014 - 9:59 PM ET #30

Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:



Good stuff as well....

Good thread.


Thanks! I'm just helping sports bettors improve their game.
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Good stuff as well....

Good thread.


Thanks! I'm just helping sports bettors improve their game.
 
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 Great Thread and info.  Very valid points here.  I view betting as a Sports Stock Market.  Basicly the info posted was similar to picking stocks.  I cant pick stocks only the guys in the know can. They have the leverage to drive things up and dump them only to bottom it all out and buy back in.  Sports are the same way.  As your scenerio suggests teams off bad beat vs team off a big win.  Couple of weeks ago a poster got killed on an upset game.  He posted he was quitting.  Raiders got beat 52-0 that day.  Another poster came in and told him not to do that to put all the money he had on the Raiders next week.  Raiders beat SFO and when it was posted it was like he was joking.   One trend or angle I have used in the past is taking team in first half and game off of a bye.  Something happened this year as that is 11/21 this year.  First 1/2 are the same.  I keep track of every game..Favs Dogs Road Favs Road dogs...Another thing that has made good sense to me is live betting.  You get a chance to see the teams on the field against each other instead of just stats.  Most games a team will score first and that changes the odds so you buy into a better position than the original line on the game.  NBA and NFL both seems like the team that wins the first half gets beat in the second half a majority of the time.  The rest of this season I will be keeping track of points above and below spread more.  I appreciate intelligent conversation and insight.  Everyone has an opinion and a pick.  Not many know why or can explain their stance with facts.
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 Great Thread and info.  Very valid points here.  I view betting as a Sports Stock Market.  Basicly the info posted was similar to picking stocks.  I cant pick stocks only the guys in the know can. They have the leverage to drive things up and dump them only to bottom it all out and buy back in.  Sports are the same way.  As your scenerio suggests teams off bad beat vs team off a big win.  Couple of weeks ago a poster got killed on an upset game.  He posted he was quitting.  Raiders got beat 52-0 that day.  Another poster came in and told him not to do that to put all the money he had on the Raiders next week.  Raiders beat SFO and when it was posted it was like he was joking.   One trend or angle I have used in the past is taking team in first half and game off of a bye.  Something happened this year as that is 11/21 this year.  First 1/2 are the same.  I keep track of every game..Favs Dogs Road Favs Road dogs...Another thing that has made good sense to me is live betting.  You get a chance to see the teams on the field against each other instead of just stats.  Most games a team will score first and that changes the odds so you buy into a better position than the original line on the game.  NBA and NFL both seems like the team that wins the first half gets beat in the second half a majority of the time.  The rest of this season I will be keeping track of points above and below spread more.  I appreciate intelligent conversation and insight.  Everyone has an opinion and a pick.  Not many know why or can explain their stance with facts.
 
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Posted: Dec. 12, 2014 - 12:34 AM ET #32

Well said.
There really is an advantage to live betting after halftime because you are getting a good read on the teams for that game.
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Well said.
There really is an advantage to live betting after halftime because you are getting a good read on the teams for that game.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Second2-Numbers:


...and for post # 20 . It came from here:

  https://linemakers.sportingnews.com/nfl/2014-12-10/cardinals-vs-rams-line-pick-point-spread-betting-odds-prediction-vegas?iadid=Nav_Sport_LINEMAKERS_3


Cappershrap ? 
voice typing excusee the typos. I don't know what your problem is but I wish you would leave this thread people don't have time for negatives everybody's full of bull and all this other stuff I'm not here to do anything but give information to make good pics if you would have looked at my other pic online you would have said I seen I picked Thursday nights game tonight as the under but you know what people like you destroy good stuff for other people I think you need to take your funny looking girlfriend picture off and go somewhere else and whack off

Oh well, we'll know where it's heading right ? Sports betting info ? Really ? sound like Free pick to me ! 
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...and for post # 20 . It came from here:

  https://linemakers.sportingnews.com/nfl/2014-12-10/cardinals-vs-rams-line-pick-point-spread-betting-odds-prediction-vegas?iadid=Nav_Sport_LINEMAKERS_3


Cappershrap ? 
voice typing excusee the typos. I don't know what your problem is but I wish you would leave this thread people don't have time for negatives everybody's full of bull and all this other stuff I'm not here to do anything but give information to make good pics if you would have looked at my other pic online you would have said I seen I picked Thursday nights game tonight as the under but you know what people like you destroy good stuff for other people I think you need to take your funny looking girlfriend picture off and go somewhere else and whack off

Oh well, we'll know where it's heading right ? Sports betting info ? Really ? sound like Free pick to me ! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Second2-Numbers:


...and for post # 20 . It came from here:

  https://linemakers.sportingnews.com/nfl/2014-12-10/cardinals-vs-rams-line-pick-point-spread-betting-odds-prediction-vegas?iadid=Nav_Sport_LINEMAKERS_3


Cappershrap ? I don't and never ever will tell or sell any pics I make my own money young lady or young man whoever you are with the cute girl picture I make my own money off my own pics I never have to sell anything I make a good living so you need to get a job and do your own thing other than bothering people

Oh well, we'll know where it's heading right ? Sports betting info ? Really ? sound like Free pick to me ! 
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Quote Originally Posted by Second2-Numbers:


...and for post # 20 . It came from here:

  https://linemakers.sportingnews.com/nfl/2014-12-10/cardinals-vs-rams-line-pick-point-spread-betting-odds-prediction-vegas?iadid=Nav_Sport_LINEMAKERS_3


Cappershrap ? I don't and never ever will tell or sell any pics I make my own money young lady or young man whoever you are with the cute girl picture I make my own money off my own pics I never have to sell anything I make a good living so you need to get a job and do your own thing other than bothering people

Oh well, we'll know where it's heading right ? Sports betting info ? Really ? sound like Free pick to me ! 
 
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 Dealing with numbers and betting into a number set by an oddsmaker, isn’t that some type of scientific proof or formula? When you do your own numbers and compare them to the bookmaker’s numbers, who’s to say that your numbers couldn’t be used as the line for any given game? Ultimately, the key is to determine whether the oddsmaker use art or science to come up with the betting line for the game.

Since my picks are based on a formula that combines a variety of factors, some mathematically verifiable and some based on common sense, I believe that sports handicapping is 60% science and 40% art. A successful handicapper cannot solely rely on statistics nor can he solely rely XE system trends and general knowledge involving some type of behavioral and situational analysis to make a reliable recommendation.

Here’s an example of analyzing a system trend: if the Toronto Maple Leafs are playing their 3rd game in 4 nights and have scored 2 goals FOR in their last 5 games, one would assume we have a fatigue team on our hands. Is this rocket science to figure out the Leafs are tired and victims of bad scheduling? No it’s called doing your homework!
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 Dealing with numbers and betting into a number set by an oddsmaker, isn’t that some type of scientific proof or formula? When you do your own numbers and compare them to the bookmaker’s numbers, who’s to say that your numbers couldn’t be used as the line for any given game? Ultimately, the key is to determine whether the oddsmaker use art or science to come up with the betting line for the game.

Since my picks are based on a formula that combines a variety of factors, some mathematically verifiable and some based on common sense, I believe that sports handicapping is 60% science and 40% art. A successful handicapper cannot solely rely on statistics nor can he solely rely XE system trends and general knowledge involving some type of behavioral and situational analysis to make a reliable recommendation.

Here’s an example of analyzing a system trend: if the Toronto Maple Leafs are playing their 3rd game in 4 nights and have scored 2 goals FOR in their last 5 games, one would assume we have a fatigue team on our hands. Is this rocket science to figure out the Leafs are tired and victims of bad scheduling? No it’s called doing your homework!
 
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Posted: Dec. 12, 2014 - 2:13 AM ET #36

Quote Originally Posted by CapperSharp:


Good for you : 1-0 

Great , that You win but please do not BS the Bs'er 

You titled this thread as : Sports Info & Money Mangement corect ?

but in post #20 : just your ( if not) opinion about the YOUR PLAY ( UNDER )

Plain and simple !  

Why's not just say : my play for to nite game is under ? 

Oops- you already DID ( create a thread with that , but there're no respond ! )




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Good for you : 1-0 

Great , that You win but please do not BS the Bs'er 

You titled this thread as : Sports Info & Money Mangement corect ?

but in post #20 : just your ( if not) opinion about the YOUR PLAY ( UNDER )

Plain and simple !  

Why's not just say : my play for to nite game is under ? 

Oops- you already DID ( create a thread with that , but there're no respond ! )




 
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Quote Originally Posted by CapperSharp:

 Dealing with numbers and betting into a number set by an oddsmaker, isn’t that some type of scientific proof or formula? When you do your own numbers and compare them to the bookmaker’s numbers, who’s to say that your numbers couldn’t be used as the line for any given game? Ultimately, the key is to determine whether the oddsmaker use art or science to come up with the betting line for the game.

Since my picks are based on a formula that combines a variety of factors, some mathematically verifiable and some based on common sense, I believe that sports handicapping is 60% science and 40% art. A successful handicapper cannot solely rely on statistics nor can he solely rely XE system trends and general knowledge involving some type of behavioral and situational analysis to make a reliable recommendation.

Here’s an example of analyzing a system trend: if the Toronto Maple Leafs are playing their 3rd game in 4 nights and have scored 2 goals FOR in their last 5 games, one would assume we have a fatigue team on our hands. Is this rocket science to figure out the Leafs are tired and victims of bad scheduling? No it’s called doing your homework!

Please stop all the BS's !

Beside you , there are many cappers here PK the UNDER for this game ! 

W/O - your " Sports Info " - Do not UNDER ESTIMATE others ! with your craps ! 
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Quote Originally Posted by CapperSharp:

 Dealing with numbers and betting into a number set by an oddsmaker, isn’t that some type of scientific proof or formula? When you do your own numbers and compare them to the bookmaker’s numbers, who’s to say that your numbers couldn’t be used as the line for any given game? Ultimately, the key is to determine whether the oddsmaker use art or science to come up with the betting line for the game.

Since my picks are based on a formula that combines a variety of factors, some mathematically verifiable and some based on common sense, I believe that sports handicapping is 60% science and 40% art. A successful handicapper cannot solely rely on statistics nor can he solely rely XE system trends and general knowledge involving some type of behavioral and situational analysis to make a reliable recommendation.

Here’s an example of analyzing a system trend: if the Toronto Maple Leafs are playing their 3rd game in 4 nights and have scored 2 goals FOR in their last 5 games, one would assume we have a fatigue team on our hands. Is this rocket science to figure out the Leafs are tired and victims of bad scheduling? No it’s called doing your homework!

Please stop all the BS's !

Beside you , there are many cappers here PK the UNDER for this game ! 

W/O - your " Sports Info " - Do not UNDER ESTIMATE others ! with your craps ! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Second2-Numbers:


Please stop all the BS's !

Beside you , there are many cappers here PK the UNDER for this game ! 

W/O - your " Sports Info " - Do not UNDER ESTIMATE others ! with your craps ! 

BTW - Covers have this sub-forum 

https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmain.aspx?spt=12

You may try to  "  Educate " other gamblers there . It'll be a good start ! 
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Quote Originally Posted by Second2-Numbers:


Please stop all the BS's !

Beside you , there are many cappers here PK the UNDER for this game ! 

W/O - your " Sports Info " - Do not UNDER ESTIMATE others ! with your craps ! 

BTW - Covers have this sub-forum 

https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmain.aspx?spt=12

You may try to  "  Educate " other gamblers there . It'll be a good start ! 
 
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Capper-  Most of us that are intelligent life forms understand you were simply trying to pass along some valuable information from a man making a living based on numbers.  Thank You for that.  Then someone came in and posted take Rams -4 Large...Just the type of Poster you were trying to educate.  We all understand that you simply shared your valuable information and formed opinion based upon this. 2nd2numbers your very pretty lady.  So quit with trying to be an attention hoe where you dont belong.  Start your own thread and post picks talk smack do whatever you want.  Bad karma and juju coming into a mans thread thats trying to help spewing your mouth....I can think of better things you could be doing with it.  Your a rookie not a mod or police baby.  STFU and do your own thing.  I will be posting your record since you know so much yet have shared nothing.
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Capper-  Most of us that are intelligent life forms understand you were simply trying to pass along some valuable information from a man making a living based on numbers.  Thank You for that.  Then someone came in and posted take Rams -4 Large...Just the type of Poster you were trying to educate.  We all understand that you simply shared your valuable information and formed opinion based upon this. 2nd2numbers your very pretty lady.  So quit with trying to be an attention hoe where you dont belong.  Start your own thread and post picks talk smack do whatever you want.  Bad karma and juju coming into a mans thread thats trying to help spewing your mouth....I can think of better things you could be doing with it.  Your a rookie not a mod or police baby.  STFU and do your own thing.  I will be posting your record since you know so much yet have shared nothing.
 
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Posted: Dec. 12, 2014 - 11:43 AM ET #40

2nd2numbers  Which sport are you most qualified to give opinions on in your opinion.  Based on what I see it is not likely anyone should be taking advice from you based on the amount of lossed units generated.  I am sure you do better in real life.  If not your bankrupt. Your record isnt horrible your units rank you in bottom 3rd of all posters.
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2nd2numbers  Which sport are you most qualified to give opinions on in your opinion.  Based on what I see it is not likely anyone should be taking advice from you based on the amount of lossed units generated.  I am sure you do better in real life.  If not your bankrupt. Your record isnt horrible your units rank you in bottom 3rd of all posters.
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I know the question is coming so yes College Football is my favorite then College baskets and Pro Football....NBA is a lot like gambling you dont know what will happen.
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I know the question is coming so yes College Football is my favorite then College baskets and Pro Football....NBA is a lot like gambling you dont know what will happen.
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Posted: Dec. 12, 2014 - 10:02 PM ET #42

When it comes to ATS trends, sometimes trends can be proven wrong.
The Packers have not won at Bills ever.
Will it be time for the Packers to win there or does history repeat itself?
This should be interesting.
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When it comes to ATS trends, sometimes trends can be proven wrong.
The Packers have not won at Bills ever.
Will it be time for the Packers to win there or does history repeat itself?
This should be interesting.
 
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Posted: Dec. 13, 2014 - 11:30 PM ET #43

It seems that creating a two team teasers at 7 points with home field advantage increases my odds of winning.
Both mathematical and home field advantages.
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It seems that creating a two team teasers at 7 points with home field advantage increases my odds of winning.
Both mathematical and home field advantages.
 
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Posted: Dec. 14, 2014 - 2:59 AM ET #44

I'm teasing the Patriots and Seahawks for week 15 with those advantages.
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I'm teasing the Patriots and Seahawks for week 15 with those advantages.
 
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He is correct with a lot and a play that MANY of his angles aim Towards is the BUFFALO BILLS +5 and i like it before reading this I'm tired need to get up to do some research tomm Ill be sure to comment more  have ALOT to learn ask and put in I consider myself a very good educated capper with ALOT to learn mainly money management and discipline and I would be extremely grateful to be able to learn and gain knowledge from you thanks for the positive thread we all have 1 COMMON goal ppl need to realize this and help one another BEST OF LUCK TO ALL CRUSH THE BOOK!!!
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He is correct with a lot and a play that MANY of his angles aim Towards is the BUFFALO BILLS +5 and i like it before reading this I'm tired need to get up to do some research tomm Ill be sure to comment more  have ALOT to learn ask and put in I consider myself a very good educated capper with ALOT to learn mainly money management and discipline and I would be extremely grateful to be able to learn and gain knowledge from you thanks for the positive thread we all have 1 COMMON goal ppl need to realize this and help one another BEST OF LUCK TO ALL CRUSH THE BOOK!!!
 
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Posted: Dec. 14, 2014 - 9:59 AM ET #46

I tend to pick teams based on how hot the cherleaders are.  While I can't claim to win 55% or more, it is a lot of fun looking at some nice behind, rather than crunching stats.

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I tend to pick teams based on how hot the cherleaders are.  While I can't claim to win 55% or more, it is a lot of fun looking at some nice behind, rather than crunching stats.

 
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I'm teasing the Patriots and Seahawks for week 15 with those advantages.


I won my bet. Easy money.
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I'm teasing the Patriots and Seahawks for week 15 with those advantages.


I won my bet. Easy money.
 
 
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Doja45 is a retard.
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