That's not the context it is being used. People are making posts, here and in nether regions of the Internet, where people are saying Vegas is fixing the line to encourage action, a.k.a. its a trap line. Which I think is laughable. Vegas is doing one thing, setting a line so it receives equal action on both sides and makes a killing on their commission. Often times they are wrong where the opening line moves. Vegas does not "know everything" including who the winner of the game will be. If you think Vegas are intentionally putting out a "trap line", mortgage your house and make a killing.
This is 100% not true and confirmed by a 20 year MGM oddsmaker on VSIN. While they more than often try to create 50-50 balance of bets to just take the VIG, that is not their only means of line setting, and according to him, more often than not... BIG PRIME TIME GAMES are always set against public perception.
Example... if the Pats are playing the Dolphins.... the oddsmakers may think the line should be Pats -2.5 because of history, inside info, undisclosed injuries, etc. But they KNOW that the Public is going to POUND the Pats regardless of the line if its under 7... so they set it at Pats -6.5
This would not bring in 50-50 money and this is an intentional "bad line" because they feel the Fins shouldn't get even a Fg yet are giving them nearly a TD. They however take the calculated risk that even if Fins cover the 6.5 which they expect.. they will win because they will have a 70-30 slant on the Pats. And if the pats win by 3, which would be their actual handicapped line... they still cover all those Pats bets.
So while they do enjoy a 50-50 split, they are in the business of making money and to not take advantage of statistics (public betting trends) and using that to set lines to their favor... they'd be total morons.. and they are FAR from that.
That's not the context it is being used. People are making posts, here and in nether regions of the Internet, where people are saying Vegas is fixing the line to encourage action, a.k.a. its a trap line. Which I think is laughable. Vegas is doing one thing, setting a line so it receives equal action on both sides and makes a killing on their commission. Often times they are wrong where the opening line moves. Vegas does not "know everything" including who the winner of the game will be. If you think Vegas are intentionally putting out a "trap line", mortgage your house and make a killing.
This is 100% not true and confirmed by a 20 year MGM oddsmaker on VSIN. While they more than often try to create 50-50 balance of bets to just take the VIG, that is not their only means of line setting, and according to him, more often than not... BIG PRIME TIME GAMES are always set against public perception.
Example... if the Pats are playing the Dolphins.... the oddsmakers may think the line should be Pats -2.5 because of history, inside info, undisclosed injuries, etc. But they KNOW that the Public is going to POUND the Pats regardless of the line if its under 7... so they set it at Pats -6.5
This would not bring in 50-50 money and this is an intentional "bad line" because they feel the Fins shouldn't get even a Fg yet are giving them nearly a TD. They however take the calculated risk that even if Fins cover the 6.5 which they expect.. they will win because they will have a 70-30 slant on the Pats. And if the pats win by 3, which would be their actual handicapped line... they still cover all those Pats bets.
So while they do enjoy a 50-50 split, they are in the business of making money and to not take advantage of statistics (public betting trends) and using that to set lines to their favor... they'd be total morons.. and they are FAR from that.
Hey board cop, what is your ROI? What is your unit size? When was the last time you took 10k in profits out of your gambling account? See nobody cares.
WALL OF TRASH TEXT
Why do you care so much what other peoples records are? Why are you afraid to answer simple questions about ROI, unit size or your profitability? I have an easy answer, you won't share your answers because A) your ROI is shit B) your unit size is a joke C) you aren't profitable but instead are bleeding money by making poor decisions and tailing the wrong posters.
I have shown you large withdrawals I have made from my gambling account yet you are still not satisfied. You are like a 10 year old that keeps screaming WHY? Do you think your record means anything without posting your ROI?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU BET ON MONEY LINES AND BUY POINTS IN HALF YOUR GAMES THAT ALL GAMES ARE NOT EQUALLY PROFITABLE AND POSTING YOUR RECORD ONLY IS POINTLESS? You could have a winning record and still be bleeding cash with shit discipline.
I am done trying to educate you how to gamble little boy, go find another poster to have a crush on.
Hey board cop, what is your ROI? What is your unit size? When was the last time you took 10k in profits out of your gambling account? See nobody cares.
WALL OF TRASH TEXT
Why do you care so much what other peoples records are? Why are you afraid to answer simple questions about ROI, unit size or your profitability? I have an easy answer, you won't share your answers because A) your ROI is shit B) your unit size is a joke C) you aren't profitable but instead are bleeding money by making poor decisions and tailing the wrong posters.
I have shown you large withdrawals I have made from my gambling account yet you are still not satisfied. You are like a 10 year old that keeps screaming WHY? Do you think your record means anything without posting your ROI?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU BET ON MONEY LINES AND BUY POINTS IN HALF YOUR GAMES THAT ALL GAMES ARE NOT EQUALLY PROFITABLE AND POSTING YOUR RECORD ONLY IS POINTLESS? You could have a winning record and still be bleeding cash with shit discipline.
I am done trying to educate you how to gamble little boy, go find another poster to have a crush on.
Why do you care so much what other peoples records are? Why are you afraid to answer simple questions about ROI, unit size or your profitability? I have an easy answer, you won't share your answers because A) your ROI is garbage B) your unit size is a joke C) you aren't profitable but instead are bleeding money by making poor decisions and tailing the wrong posters.
I have shown you large withdrawals I have made from my gambling account yet you are still not satisfied. You are like a 10 year old that keeps screaming WHY? Do you think your record means anything without posting your ROI?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU BET ON MONEY LINES AND BUY POINTS IN HALF YOUR GAMES THAT ALL GAMES ARE NOT EQUALLY PROFITABLE AND POSTING YOUR RECORD ONLY IS POINTLESS? You could have a winning record and still be bleeding cash with garbage discipline.
I am done trying to educate you how to gamble little boy, go find another poster to have a crush on.
Let me put it this way Chief. You aren’t on my level and you won’t ever be. You brag yet you have nothing to back it up. When I posted your record it was 3-13-1. That thread was deleted. Since then I haven’t seen an above .500 record from you. It’s nkt even close. These are FACTS. Why do I care so much? Because guys like you ruin sites like these. You have no integrity, you are fake and you in essence are full of chit. YOU DONT FOOL ME. You talk about ROI AND UNIT SIZE? I could give you that info but like you always do, you find something to sidetrack and disguise your bs. I have provided you a record that provides transparency in MY CREATED THREADS. That’s one more thing that you have provided. All you do is spew trends and bs. You think posting some fake crap gets you respect? Come on massengill. I’m done being nice with you chief. There are tons of characters on this site but you are the worst. You educating me on gambling? How? Are you nuts? Do you know your record? Do you take ownership when your foot goes in your mouth after calling people dumb and uneducated when actually those are the people winning and not you? And you speak about someone’s record being pointless because unit size isn’t posted? Again....are you an idiot? 42 games over .500 and you think I’m not up?! The more we talk brotha, the dumber you sound? I have NOTHING to prove to you. You have everything to prove because your record is the turd that sits in the toilet after my kid clogs it. Again, go get consoled by your roommate ya fake. My next post will garbage you up so stay tuned Chief. After the post, you will NOTHING to respond to and if you do, you’ll look dumber than you do now. Stay tuned pion
Why do you care so much what other peoples records are? Why are you afraid to answer simple questions about ROI, unit size or your profitability? I have an easy answer, you won't share your answers because A) your ROI is garbage B) your unit size is a joke C) you aren't profitable but instead are bleeding money by making poor decisions and tailing the wrong posters.
I have shown you large withdrawals I have made from my gambling account yet you are still not satisfied. You are like a 10 year old that keeps screaming WHY? Do you think your record means anything without posting your ROI?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU BET ON MONEY LINES AND BUY POINTS IN HALF YOUR GAMES THAT ALL GAMES ARE NOT EQUALLY PROFITABLE AND POSTING YOUR RECORD ONLY IS POINTLESS? You could have a winning record and still be bleeding cash with garbage discipline.
I am done trying to educate you how to gamble little boy, go find another poster to have a crush on.
Let me put it this way Chief. You aren’t on my level and you won’t ever be. You brag yet you have nothing to back it up. When I posted your record it was 3-13-1. That thread was deleted. Since then I haven’t seen an above .500 record from you. It’s nkt even close. These are FACTS. Why do I care so much? Because guys like you ruin sites like these. You have no integrity, you are fake and you in essence are full of chit. YOU DONT FOOL ME. You talk about ROI AND UNIT SIZE? I could give you that info but like you always do, you find something to sidetrack and disguise your bs. I have provided you a record that provides transparency in MY CREATED THREADS. That’s one more thing that you have provided. All you do is spew trends and bs. You think posting some fake crap gets you respect? Come on massengill. I’m done being nice with you chief. There are tons of characters on this site but you are the worst. You educating me on gambling? How? Are you nuts? Do you know your record? Do you take ownership when your foot goes in your mouth after calling people dumb and uneducated when actually those are the people winning and not you? And you speak about someone’s record being pointless because unit size isn’t posted? Again....are you an idiot? 42 games over .500 and you think I’m not up?! The more we talk brotha, the dumber you sound? I have NOTHING to prove to you. You have everything to prove because your record is the turd that sits in the toilet after my kid clogs it. Again, go get consoled by your roommate ya fake. My next post will garbage you up so stay tuned Chief. After the post, you will NOTHING to respond to and if you do, you’ll look dumber than you do now. Stay tuned pion
That's not the context it is being used. People are making posts, here and in nether regions of the Internet, where people are saying Vegas is fixing the line to encourage action, a.k.a. its a trap line. Which I think is laughable. Vegas is doing one thing, setting a line so it receives equal action on both sidesand makes a killing on their commission. Often times they are wrong where the opening line moves. Vegas does not "know everything" including who the winner of the game will be. If you think Vegas are intentionally putting out a "trap line", mortgage your house and make a killing.
This is soooo not true in the absolute sense. (At least here in Vegas.) If it were, you'd have dogs well into the +20's in the NFL. The truth is that Vegas does the best it can to get even $$$....but it gambles also based on it's considerable experience.
A lot of this is influenced (and offset) by the teasers and parlays that the public goes beserk on and the books profit handsomely on.
Also, Vegas DOES know (again, their experience is key here) what their "mix" of games is likely to do on a continuous basis. In other words, they may not adjust lines on certain games because they know that their overall mix of games that day or weekend or in that particular sport is going to win for them. This accounts for the lack of line movement on some games when one side is being heavily bet in both total $$$ and number of bets.
Certain books also know which types of situations will entice certain kinds of betting syndicates to come in big.....and make their lines accordingly in anticipation of this.
In other words, the books (again, I speak of my knowledge of the way it works here) are extremely sophisticated and experienced and include factors far beyond what we as individuals consider. Some of the highest paid tech and math wizards/firms anywhere are retained by the books here to provide the information that keeps them highly profitable.
That's not the context it is being used. People are making posts, here and in nether regions of the Internet, where people are saying Vegas is fixing the line to encourage action, a.k.a. its a trap line. Which I think is laughable. Vegas is doing one thing, setting a line so it receives equal action on both sidesand makes a killing on their commission. Often times they are wrong where the opening line moves. Vegas does not "know everything" including who the winner of the game will be. If you think Vegas are intentionally putting out a "trap line", mortgage your house and make a killing.
This is soooo not true in the absolute sense. (At least here in Vegas.) If it were, you'd have dogs well into the +20's in the NFL. The truth is that Vegas does the best it can to get even $$$....but it gambles also based on it's considerable experience.
A lot of this is influenced (and offset) by the teasers and parlays that the public goes beserk on and the books profit handsomely on.
Also, Vegas DOES know (again, their experience is key here) what their "mix" of games is likely to do on a continuous basis. In other words, they may not adjust lines on certain games because they know that their overall mix of games that day or weekend or in that particular sport is going to win for them. This accounts for the lack of line movement on some games when one side is being heavily bet in both total $$$ and number of bets.
Certain books also know which types of situations will entice certain kinds of betting syndicates to come in big.....and make their lines accordingly in anticipation of this.
In other words, the books (again, I speak of my knowledge of the way it works here) are extremely sophisticated and experienced and include factors far beyond what we as individuals consider. Some of the highest paid tech and math wizards/firms anywhere are retained by the books here to provide the information that keeps them highly profitable.
That's not the context it is being used. People are making posts, here and in nether regions of the Internet, where people are saying Vegas is fixing the line to encourage action, a.k.a. its a trap line. Which I think is laughable. Vegas is doing one thing, setting a line so it receives equal action on both sides and makes a killing on their commission. Often times they are wrong where the opening line moves. Vegas does not "know everything" including who the winner of the game will be. If you think Vegas are intentionally putting out a "trap line", mortgage your house and make a killing.
This is soooo not true in the absolute sense. (At least here in Vegas.) If it were, you'd have dogs well into the +20's in the NFL. The truth is that Vegas does the best it can to get even $$$....but it gambles also based on it's considerable experience. A lot of this is influenced (and offset) by the teasers and parlays that the public goes beserk on and the books profit handsomely on. Also, Vegas DOES know (again, their experience is key here) what their "mix" of games is likely to do on a continuous basis. In other words, they may not adjust lines on certain games because they know that their overall mix of games that day or weekend or in that particular sport is going to win for them. This accounts for the lack of line movement on some games when one side is being heavily bet in both total $$$ and number of bets. Certain books also know which types of situations will entice certain kinds of betting syndicates to come in big.....and make their lines accordingly in anticipation of this. In other words, the books (again, I speak of my knowledge of the way it works here) are extremely sophisticated and experienced and include factors far beyond what we as individuals consider. Some of the highest paid tech and math wizards/firms anywhere are retained by the books here to provide the information that keeps them highly profitable.
Exactly. I said nearly the same thing a few posts above you. I think its the BIGGEST misconception among causal bettors is that Vegas sets lines to attract 50-50 money.
Sure if they get pounded on a 3.5 doggie they may move the favorite to 2.5 to even their risk. But they SET lines to make money and they take the public and betting habits into great consideration which is why the "worst" lines are always the public teams (NE, PIT, DAL, NO, and lately KC, CHC, LAR)
That's not the context it is being used. People are making posts, here and in nether regions of the Internet, where people are saying Vegas is fixing the line to encourage action, a.k.a. its a trap line. Which I think is laughable. Vegas is doing one thing, setting a line so it receives equal action on both sides and makes a killing on their commission. Often times they are wrong where the opening line moves. Vegas does not "know everything" including who the winner of the game will be. If you think Vegas are intentionally putting out a "trap line", mortgage your house and make a killing.
This is soooo not true in the absolute sense. (At least here in Vegas.) If it were, you'd have dogs well into the +20's in the NFL. The truth is that Vegas does the best it can to get even $$$....but it gambles also based on it's considerable experience. A lot of this is influenced (and offset) by the teasers and parlays that the public goes beserk on and the books profit handsomely on. Also, Vegas DOES know (again, their experience is key here) what their "mix" of games is likely to do on a continuous basis. In other words, they may not adjust lines on certain games because they know that their overall mix of games that day or weekend or in that particular sport is going to win for them. This accounts for the lack of line movement on some games when one side is being heavily bet in both total $$$ and number of bets. Certain books also know which types of situations will entice certain kinds of betting syndicates to come in big.....and make their lines accordingly in anticipation of this. In other words, the books (again, I speak of my knowledge of the way it works here) are extremely sophisticated and experienced and include factors far beyond what we as individuals consider. Some of the highest paid tech and math wizards/firms anywhere are retained by the books here to provide the information that keeps them highly profitable.
Exactly. I said nearly the same thing a few posts above you. I think its the BIGGEST misconception among causal bettors is that Vegas sets lines to attract 50-50 money.
Sure if they get pounded on a 3.5 doggie they may move the favorite to 2.5 to even their risk. But they SET lines to make money and they take the public and betting habits into great consideration which is why the "worst" lines are always the public teams (NE, PIT, DAL, NO, and lately KC, CHC, LAR)
Sure if they get pounded on a 3.5 doggie they may move the favorite to 2.5 to even their risk. But they SET lines to make money and they take the public and betting habits into great consideration which is why the "worst" lines are always the public teams (NE, PIT, DAL, NO, and lately KC, CHC, LAR)
You have any data to support that public leans are always losers? or as you worded it "worst" lines. I think people that state they know when a line is a trap (i.e. wrong team purposefully favored by Vegas) are trying to look smarter than they are.
Sure if they get pounded on a 3.5 doggie they may move the favorite to 2.5 to even their risk. But they SET lines to make money and they take the public and betting habits into great consideration which is why the "worst" lines are always the public teams (NE, PIT, DAL, NO, and lately KC, CHC, LAR)
You have any data to support that public leans are always losers? or as you worded it "worst" lines. I think people that state they know when a line is a trap (i.e. wrong team purposefully favored by Vegas) are trying to look smarter than they are.
What a surprise. The mods came to your rescue again. The thread was deleted. Don’t worry....if you keep your antics up I will remind people of you and those antics. It’s like a chess match Chief and unfortunately I can snatch that queen anytime I want.
What a surprise. The mods came to your rescue again. The thread was deleted. Don’t worry....if you keep your antics up I will remind people of you and those antics. It’s like a chess match Chief and unfortunately I can snatch that queen anytime I want.
Sure if they get pounded on a 3.5 doggie they may move the favorite to 2.5 to even their risk. But they SET lines to make money and they take the public and betting habits into great consideration which is why the "worst" lines are always the public teams (NE, PIT, DAL, NO, and lately KC, CHC, LAR)
You have any data to support that public leans are always losers? or as you worded it "worst" lines. I think people that state they know when a line is a trap (i.e. wrong team purposefully favored by Vegas) are trying to look smarter than they are.
Sure if they get pounded on a 3.5 doggie they may move the favorite to 2.5 to even their risk. But they SET lines to make money and they take the public and betting habits into great consideration which is why the "worst" lines are always the public teams (NE, PIT, DAL, NO, and lately KC, CHC, LAR)
You have any data to support that public leans are always losers? or as you worded it "worst" lines. I think people that state they know when a line is a trap (i.e. wrong team purposefully favored by Vegas) are trying to look smarter than they are.
Sure if they get pounded on a 3.5 doggie they may move the favorite to 2.5 to even their risk. But they SET lines to make money and they take the public and betting habits into great consideration which is why the "worst" lines are always the public teams (NE, PIT, DAL, NO, and lately KC, CHC, LAR)
You have any data to support that public leans are always losers? or as you worded it "worst" lines. I think people that state they know when a line is a trap (i.e. wrong team purposefully favored by Vegas) are trying to look smarter than they are.
No that is why I was agreeing with you... lol?
I think you mis-read what I was saying. I'm not saying the public leans are losers. I was agreeing with you about lines being made in ways other than attracting 50-50 action. In fact, I made that post BEFORE you did.. just scroll up.
My point is if the public is going to lean NE and the book feels a just line is 2.5.... they will and do push it to their favor... say 6.5 knowing it won't steer public away. And again, this isn't even my opinion (though I ageee) this is what an MGM oddsmaker confused on follow the money on Vsin.
I think you just assumed I was attacking your post and so came at me. Smoke some weed bruh. Its just. betting forum.
Sure if they get pounded on a 3.5 doggie they may move the favorite to 2.5 to even their risk. But they SET lines to make money and they take the public and betting habits into great consideration which is why the "worst" lines are always the public teams (NE, PIT, DAL, NO, and lately KC, CHC, LAR)
You have any data to support that public leans are always losers? or as you worded it "worst" lines. I think people that state they know when a line is a trap (i.e. wrong team purposefully favored by Vegas) are trying to look smarter than they are.
No that is why I was agreeing with you... lol?
I think you mis-read what I was saying. I'm not saying the public leans are losers. I was agreeing with you about lines being made in ways other than attracting 50-50 action. In fact, I made that post BEFORE you did.. just scroll up.
My point is if the public is going to lean NE and the book feels a just line is 2.5.... they will and do push it to their favor... say 6.5 knowing it won't steer public away. And again, this isn't even my opinion (though I ageee) this is what an MGM oddsmaker confused on follow the money on Vsin.
I think you just assumed I was attacking your post and so came at me. Smoke some weed bruh. Its just. betting forum.
I think you and whoever you are describing misunderstands the meaning of a "trap game", the correct definition of a trap game is two disparate opponents are scheduled with a seemingly low/attractive game line. The stronger opponent has an equal or stronger opponent the following game. The weaker team covers or wins outright as the stronger opponent was looking forward to the next game against the stronger opponent not preparing or taking seriously this current week's marginal opponent. The TRAP is thinking the line was a great deal as its appeared to be.
No. You are confusing a trap LINE with a SANDWICH game.
"TRAP GAME" is a very old gambling term before google or internet existed, you are all very young men on this thread when i' m trying to get your brain corrected, you attack. try getting with correct traditional definitions instead of making up your own "contexts", this generation is so F ing aimless and undirected because of the internet and fake news, fake definitions, fake everything, fake TV shows, fake youtube millionaires, i feel sorry for all of you in accomplishing anything substantial in life. You are a generation of renters, participation award winners, moochers, cry babies, living in your parents homes. GROW SOME BALLS AND A WORK ETHIC ---- SNOWMAN <--- OUT OF AN ORPHANAGE, SELF MADE REAL MULTI MILLIONAIRE IN 3 DIFFERENT FIELDS.
I think you and whoever you are describing misunderstands the meaning of a "trap game", the correct definition of a trap game is two disparate opponents are scheduled with a seemingly low/attractive game line. The stronger opponent has an equal or stronger opponent the following game. The weaker team covers or wins outright as the stronger opponent was looking forward to the next game against the stronger opponent not preparing or taking seriously this current week's marginal opponent. The TRAP is thinking the line was a great deal as its appeared to be.
No. You are confusing a trap LINE with a SANDWICH game.
"TRAP GAME" is a very old gambling term before google or internet existed, you are all very young men on this thread when i' m trying to get your brain corrected, you attack. try getting with correct traditional definitions instead of making up your own "contexts", this generation is so F ing aimless and undirected because of the internet and fake news, fake definitions, fake everything, fake TV shows, fake youtube millionaires, i feel sorry for all of you in accomplishing anything substantial in life. You are a generation of renters, participation award winners, moochers, cry babies, living in your parents homes. GROW SOME BALLS AND A WORK ETHIC ---- SNOWMAN <--- OUT OF AN ORPHANAGE, SELF MADE REAL MULTI MILLIONAIRE IN 3 DIFFERENT FIELDS.
What a surprise. The mods came to your rescue again. The thread was deleted. Don’t worry....if you keep your antics up I will remind people of you and those antics. It’s like a chess match Chief and unfortunately I can snatch that queen anytime I want.
What a surprise. The mods came to your rescue again. The thread was deleted. Don’t worry....if you keep your antics up I will remind people of you and those antics. It’s like a chess match Chief and unfortunately I can snatch that queen anytime I want.
I'd stick with what you got (assuming its not a huge amount)
I parlayed Chargers +3.5 w/ under 53.5 for a decent amount (half of what I won off of MNF Seattle, mostly in-game betting).
My big bet this week is Patriots (-1.5) @ Steelers 10u -- I think Conner is likely out and Big Ben is 1 big hit away from having to sit. Both sat out practice today, meanwhile Patriots had perfect attendance at practice and will have a fire in their belly after last week's HUMILIATING loss to the Dolphins to end the game, no game will be taken granted to end out their season, if they finish the season out 3-0 I have an over 11 win ticket ready to cash so you could say I am extra motivated.
That line is already at -2, could be -3 or higher come Sunday.
Good effort on the parlay in the TNF game where you had a “decent amount” invested. Soooo close. I’m gonna have to remember the “decent amount” jargon when I list my units for you next time.....it’s very transparent.....
9-16-2 now on the year for YOU and as much as you try to inform us how parlays pay out, you gotta win one this year first. Just one. So with the posted -720.00 on parlays and then the loss of 3 units tonite, you gonna be ok? Hey man, I kind of feel bad for going so heavy on ya. You had it coming but going forward know I will keep it strictly simple. We’ll just let the records speak for themselves. You take care of yourself.
I'd stick with what you got (assuming its not a huge amount)
I parlayed Chargers +3.5 w/ under 53.5 for a decent amount (half of what I won off of MNF Seattle, mostly in-game betting).
My big bet this week is Patriots (-1.5) @ Steelers 10u -- I think Conner is likely out and Big Ben is 1 big hit away from having to sit. Both sat out practice today, meanwhile Patriots had perfect attendance at practice and will have a fire in their belly after last week's HUMILIATING loss to the Dolphins to end the game, no game will be taken granted to end out their season, if they finish the season out 3-0 I have an over 11 win ticket ready to cash so you could say I am extra motivated.
That line is already at -2, could be -3 or higher come Sunday.
Good effort on the parlay in the TNF game where you had a “decent amount” invested. Soooo close. I’m gonna have to remember the “decent amount” jargon when I list my units for you next time.....it’s very transparent.....
9-16-2 now on the year for YOU and as much as you try to inform us how parlays pay out, you gotta win one this year first. Just one. So with the posted -720.00 on parlays and then the loss of 3 units tonite, you gonna be ok? Hey man, I kind of feel bad for going so heavy on ya. You had it coming but going forward know I will keep it strictly simple. We’ll just let the records speak for themselves. You take care of yourself.
I took half my winnings from the Seattle game which Achilles incorrectly projected and bet it on tonight's parlay. The bet was made earlier in the week when the wind forecast was a lot of higher and Melvin Gordon's uncertainty was a lot less "uncertain".
I think this fraud which he set out his witch hunt to "uncover" did pretty well picking the outright winner, while the real fraud spent all of his energy in a fruitless endeavor and was too chickenshit to even take a side in this game.
And no $150 is not a decent amount of money to me, see that is the difference between me and you, I do this as a hobby to have fun, for you it is life and death to feed your children and you cannot fathom the notion that people would value my opinion over the turds you post about 5 minutes after the game has even started.
I took half my winnings from the Seattle game which Achilles incorrectly projected and bet it on tonight's parlay. The bet was made earlier in the week when the wind forecast was a lot of higher and Melvin Gordon's uncertainty was a lot less "uncertain".
I think this fraud which he set out his witch hunt to "uncover" did pretty well picking the outright winner, while the real fraud spent all of his energy in a fruitless endeavor and was too chickenshit to even take a side in this game.
And no $150 is not a decent amount of money to me, see that is the difference between me and you, I do this as a hobby to have fun, for you it is life and death to feed your children and you cannot fathom the notion that people would value my opinion over the turds you post about 5 minutes after the game has even started.
I am so sick of people calling games "It's a trap", Vegas is trying to trap you with that line! Here's this week's TRAP OF THE WEEK KC -3½ Chiefs have not covered last two weeks since Hunt got kicked off the team, they got the push against the Rams during his last week. Travis Kelce is the #2 TE in the league based on receptions (86) and TD's (10), he also appears to be tied for TE fumbles @ 2. However Chargers are his kryptonite. Chargers held him to 1 catch for 6 yards back in Week 1, Kelce has accumulated 0 TD's in 9 career meetings and produced single-digit receiving yards in three of Kelce's last four meetings against the Chargers. To top it all off Tyreek Hill, the Chiefs #1 down field threat is having heel problems that he himself described as "bad" after Sunday's game and he only has a short week in which he will practice very little to prepare for this TNF matchup, which he is likely to play but not at 100%. Add in 15 mph cross winds (coming from the N, stadium is aligned -45° from N-S) and this game should go UNDER the projected 53½ game total.
The one area I weighed too heavily was the 15 mph cross winds. 15 mph was on the border of affecting the outcome and scoring tempo of the game, given that weather changed and the winds slowly were predicted down to 13 and then 12, it became a non factor.
The two key other details I pointed out:
Kelce - still has not scored a TD against the Chargers in his career.
Tyreek Hill - put up his second lowest receiving yardage numbers of the season @ 46 yards, clearly he was far from 100% catching only 4 of 7 targets.
I am so sick of people calling games "It's a trap", Vegas is trying to trap you with that line! Here's this week's TRAP OF THE WEEK KC -3½ Chiefs have not covered last two weeks since Hunt got kicked off the team, they got the push against the Rams during his last week. Travis Kelce is the #2 TE in the league based on receptions (86) and TD's (10), he also appears to be tied for TE fumbles @ 2. However Chargers are his kryptonite. Chargers held him to 1 catch for 6 yards back in Week 1, Kelce has accumulated 0 TD's in 9 career meetings and produced single-digit receiving yards in three of Kelce's last four meetings against the Chargers. To top it all off Tyreek Hill, the Chiefs #1 down field threat is having heel problems that he himself described as "bad" after Sunday's game and he only has a short week in which he will practice very little to prepare for this TNF matchup, which he is likely to play but not at 100%. Add in 15 mph cross winds (coming from the N, stadium is aligned -45° from N-S) and this game should go UNDER the projected 53½ game total.
The one area I weighed too heavily was the 15 mph cross winds. 15 mph was on the border of affecting the outcome and scoring tempo of the game, given that weather changed and the winds slowly were predicted down to 13 and then 12, it became a non factor.
The two key other details I pointed out:
Kelce - still has not scored a TD against the Chargers in his career.
Tyreek Hill - put up his second lowest receiving yardage numbers of the season @ 46 yards, clearly he was far from 100% catching only 4 of 7 targets.
I took half my winnings from the Seattle game which Achilles incorrectly projected and bet it on tonight's parlay. The bet was made earlier in the week when the wind forecast was a lot of higher and Melvin Gordon's uncertainty was a lot less "uncertain".
I think this fraud which he set out his witch hunt to "uncover" did pretty well picking the outright winner, while the real fraud spent all of his energy in a fruitless endeavor and was too chickenshit to even take a side in this game.
And no $150 is not a decent amount of money to me, see that is the difference between me and you, I do this as a hobby to have fun, for you it is life and death to feed your children and you cannot fathom the notion that people would value my opinion over the turds you post about 5 minutes after the game has even started.
Two things: you aren’t on my level Chief. You never will be. The second: take some ownership in your constant failures. THATS WHAT MY ISSUE HAS BEEN ALL ALONG. I don’t care about unit size or ROI because with your record and no evidence of hitting a parlay, you are suffering this year. Any smart person can see that. I’ve posted 123 more plays than you have and have almost 90 more wins. Stop before you remove the shoe out of your mouth and think about that. It’s week 15 and you have 9 posted wins. 9........
You are all over the place bud. In other threads you clearly put in ( ) “decent amount of your winnings from the Seattle game” yet in here after you’ve lost again, you State 150.00 is not a lot. So factually you are now down 870.00? You can’t even admit to that. You said another thread that if someone was born in 1976 they’d be 5 years younger than you so does that mean you are 48, living with a roommate and are posting fake pics of winnings? Jeeeeez. I understand you want unit size and ROI but coming from a guy with your documented losing record and documented -870.00, you need to first get closer to .500 to even open your mouth. This will be my only post to you during the day. Maybe my response to anything you ever say will be stating your record and losses. You’d think that would shut you up. “The bet was made earlier in the week when the forecast was a lot higher”......?
I took half my winnings from the Seattle game which Achilles incorrectly projected and bet it on tonight's parlay. The bet was made earlier in the week when the wind forecast was a lot of higher and Melvin Gordon's uncertainty was a lot less "uncertain".
I think this fraud which he set out his witch hunt to "uncover" did pretty well picking the outright winner, while the real fraud spent all of his energy in a fruitless endeavor and was too chickenshit to even take a side in this game.
And no $150 is not a decent amount of money to me, see that is the difference between me and you, I do this as a hobby to have fun, for you it is life and death to feed your children and you cannot fathom the notion that people would value my opinion over the turds you post about 5 minutes after the game has even started.
Two things: you aren’t on my level Chief. You never will be. The second: take some ownership in your constant failures. THATS WHAT MY ISSUE HAS BEEN ALL ALONG. I don’t care about unit size or ROI because with your record and no evidence of hitting a parlay, you are suffering this year. Any smart person can see that. I’ve posted 123 more plays than you have and have almost 90 more wins. Stop before you remove the shoe out of your mouth and think about that. It’s week 15 and you have 9 posted wins. 9........
You are all over the place bud. In other threads you clearly put in ( ) “decent amount of your winnings from the Seattle game” yet in here after you’ve lost again, you State 150.00 is not a lot. So factually you are now down 870.00? You can’t even admit to that. You said another thread that if someone was born in 1976 they’d be 5 years younger than you so does that mean you are 48, living with a roommate and are posting fake pics of winnings? Jeeeeez. I understand you want unit size and ROI but coming from a guy with your documented losing record and documented -870.00, you need to first get closer to .500 to even open your mouth. This will be my only post to you during the day. Maybe my response to anything you ever say will be stating your record and losses. You’d think that would shut you up. “The bet was made earlier in the week when the forecast was a lot higher”......?
Achilles - I am not even reading your posts - they are falling on deaf ears, I hope you like spending energy and listening to yourself blather on, your witch hunts are about as accurate as your picks made 5 minutes after kickoff.
Achilles - I am not even reading your posts - they are falling on deaf ears, I hope you like spending energy and listening to yourself blather on, your witch hunts are about as accurate as your picks made 5 minutes after kickoff.
Achilles - I am not even reading your posts - they are falling on deaf ears, I hope you like spending energy and listening to yourself blather on, your witch hunts are about as accurate as your picks made 5 minutes after kickoff.
Achilles - I am not even reading your posts - they are falling on deaf ears, I hope you like spending energy and listening to yourself blather on, your witch hunts are about as accurate as your picks made 5 minutes after kickoff.
Google's algorithms have been a pos the past several months and they keep getting worse. The odds of getting what you are looking for is like looking for a needle in a haystack nowadays
Google's algorithms have been a pos the past several months and they keep getting worse. The odds of getting what you are looking for is like looking for a needle in a haystack nowadays
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