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Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 8:42 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by 2169:

see if you can somehow create a new account with him using an alias, and run up the account.  if you win collect, if you lose don't pay. 


Yeah. He''ll just put on a really good disguise to collect.
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see if you can somehow create a new account with him using an alias, and run up the account.  if you win collect, if you lose don't pay. 


Yeah. He''ll just put on a really good disguise to collect.
 
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Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 9:30 PM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by dennishopson:



I had the Seahawks......

They were looking so great till that game. Yet another example of my opinion that Holmgren is less than useful now.

 

 Holmgren wasn't wearing zebra stripes that day,you and I were both on thre right side of that one but instead of collecting,we were ass-raped.

I absolutely hate both Bill Cowher and the Steelers to this day!

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I had the Seahawks......

They were looking so great till that game. Yet another example of my opinion that Holmgren is less than useful now.

 

 Holmgren wasn't wearing zebra stripes that day,you and I were both on thre right side of that one but instead of collecting,we were ass-raped.

I absolutely hate both Bill Cowher and the Steelers to this day!

 
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Posted: Feb. 14, 2010 - 10:18 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

I've been dealing with this guy for 2 years now using bookieauto.com. 

there your problem....you asked for a situation like this....

 

but why make a new name for this thread?  

   Sammy...is that you?

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Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

I've been dealing with this guy for 2 years now using bookieauto.com. 

there your problem....you asked for a situation like this....

 

but why make a new name for this thread?  

   Sammy...is that you?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

There was a guy in my town that vanished after the Steelars covered against the Seahawks in the Superbowl a few years back. No one has seen him since. I heard he owed out almost 500K.

guy is probably floating with the fishes!
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There was a guy in my town that vanished after the Steelars covered against the Seahawks in the Superbowl a few years back. No one has seen him since. I heard he owed out almost 500K.

guy is probably floating with the fishes!
 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 12:58 AM ET #30

he's chopped up and buried in the woods somewhere.

He should have laid off a lot of it, because the way that idiot did it, he was gambling 200K of others money, when he should have evened it out and been happy  with the juice......Moron.
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he's chopped up and buried in the woods somewhere.

He should have laid off a lot of it, because the way that idiot did it, he was gambling 200K of others money, when he should have evened it out and been happy  with the juice......Moron.
 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 1:11 AM ET #31

Quote Originally Posted by dennishopson:



They will give you you're part of the money. Trust me. It's good for their long term business and rep.

Go that route and don't be afraid. Meet them though first .......

How do I find reputable collectors that  are trustworthy?   I know they're not listed in yellow pages.  I'm a bit skeptical about these guys in NY as I don't know of anyone using their service in the past.  I just know a guy that happens to know them and he hasn't used their service either.  Reminder....He's in Rhode Island and I'm in NC. 

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They will give you you're part of the money. Trust me. It's good for their long term business and rep.

Go that route and don't be afraid. Meet them though first .......

How do I find reputable collectors that  are trustworthy?   I know they're not listed in yellow pages.  I'm a bit skeptical about these guys in NY as I don't know of anyone using their service in the past.  I just know a guy that happens to know them and he hasn't used their service either.  Reminder....He's in Rhode Island and I'm in NC. 

Thanks

 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 1:18 AM ET #32

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Well how did you get hooked up with him in the first place? I assume referral correct? How about contacting the person that hooked you up with him or perhaps some other clients he has. Do you know where he lives?

Unfortunately, I don't know anyone else at this time.  I ran into him at an underground poker house.  He was living in NC at the time too, so I thought I'd give him a try.  Also, I was new to bookieauto thing which I found to be very convenient and easy to be able to place a bet 24/7.  I should start contacting some people I met from the poker house about him though. 

Thanks.

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Well how did you get hooked up with him in the first place? I assume referral correct? How about contacting the person that hooked you up with him or perhaps some other clients he has. Do you know where he lives?

Unfortunately, I don't know anyone else at this time.  I ran into him at an underground poker house.  He was living in NC at the time too, so I thought I'd give him a try.  Also, I was new to bookieauto thing which I found to be very convenient and easy to be able to place a bet 24/7.  I should start contacting some people I met from the poker house about him though. 

Thanks.

 
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Keep us updated...this could develop in to something very interesting.

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Keep us updated...this could develop in to something very interesting.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

Unfortunately, I don't know anyone else at this time.  I ran into him at an underground poker house.  He was living in NC at the time too, so I thought I'd give him a try.  Also, I was new to bookieauto thing which I found to be very convenient and easy to be able to place a bet 24/7.  I should start contacting some people I met from the poker house about him though. 

Thanks.


Raleigh by any chance?
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Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

Unfortunately, I don't know anyone else at this time.  I ran into him at an underground poker house.  He was living in NC at the time too, so I thought I'd give him a try.  Also, I was new to bookieauto thing which I found to be very convenient and easy to be able to place a bet 24/7.  I should start contacting some people I met from the poker house about him though. 

Thanks.


Raleigh by any chance?
 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 11:52 AM ET #35

Bet on line with a reputable book and you'll never have to put up with this crap. 
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Bet on line with a reputable book and you'll never have to put up with this crap. 
 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 12:03 PM ET #36

siyoki....send me a PM...i have a ton of connections in RI from going to school there etc. Bunch of my friends bet as well...that is such a small state so many people know so many people...

shoot me a PM..i might be able to help...

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siyoki....send me a PM...i have a ton of connections in RI from going to school there etc. Bunch of my friends bet as well...that is such a small state so many people know so many people...

shoot me a PM..i might be able to help...

 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 12:07 PM ET #37

a.  Spend a few extra bucks and plant some blow in his ride or on his property.

b.  Call pig detective via payphone

c.  Put that fucker on call block and see how he likes it.

d.  get an on-line account for future use

 

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a.  Spend a few extra bucks and plant some blow in his ride or on his property.

b.  Call pig detective via payphone

c.  Put that fucker on call block and see how he likes it.

d.  get an on-line account for future use

 

 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 1:51 PM ET #38

Quote Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw:

siyoki....send me a PM...i have a ton of connections in RI from going to school there etc. Bunch of my friends bet as well...that is such a small state so many people know so many people...

shoot me a PM..i might be able to help...

I sent you a PM including the bookie's info. 

What if I leave another message for him and threaten to expose him on here, which then would be googled by putting in his name?

Just a thought!

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siyoki....send me a PM...i have a ton of connections in RI from going to school there etc. Bunch of my friends bet as well...that is such a small state so many people know so many people...

shoot me a PM..i might be able to help...

I sent you a PM including the bookie's info. 

What if I leave another message for him and threaten to expose him on here, which then would be googled by putting in his name?

Just a thought!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

I sent you a PM including the bookie's info. 

What if I leave another message for him and threaten to expose him on here, which then would be googled by putting in his name?

Just a thought!

 Last resort maybe.............you don't want him to know you're coming right now or he'll split again.........if he hasn't already. You're probably not the only one he owes........

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I sent you a PM including the bookie's info. 

What if I leave another message for him and threaten to expose him on here, which then would be googled by putting in his name?

Just a thought!

 Last resort maybe.............you don't want him to know you're coming right now or he'll split again.........if he hasn't already. You're probably not the only one he owes........

 
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u have to get at least part of your money back... fuck, i dont know what i would do if i were u.
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u have to get at least part of your money back... fuck, i dont know what i would do if i were u.
 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 3:02 PM ET #41

I am glad I only deal with online books, the bookie business sounds dangerous

good luck with your situation hope you get your money
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I am glad I only deal with online books, the bookie business sounds dangerous

good luck with your situation hope you get your money
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by siyoki77]

I've been dealing with this guy for 2 years now using bookieauto.com.  He was local until he moved out of state to RI about a year ago.  Still, I've been dealing with him since there were no problem with fund transfers or anything.  I was losing most of the time, so I would send him my personal check via mail (to his home address, so I know where he lives) and he would do the same when I won.  Now 2 weeks ago I won $3300 and he told me over the phone that he would mail it out to me that week.  Last week, while waiting for the payment, I won $3700 more.  So, I called him to see how he would take care of it and guess what???  He put my number on restricted calling list and wouldn't answer when I call from another phone.  Still, I haven't received the first payment, and I'm sure that I'm not ever gonna get the 2nd one either.  Also, he had blocked me from loggin into autobookie account, where I have +$125 since tuesday.  I wasn't gonna bet through him anymore until I get the 2 checks anyway, but it pissed me off since he shut me down without telling me.

We all know what bookie would do to you if you don't pay them.  But I've never even heard anyone having issues getting money from one.  I have a couple of ppl in NY who offered to collect it for me for $3k but I'm not sure where it would put me in liability, in case they do something you know, illegal to the bookie or his family.  Believe me, I'm not looking for any violence or to threaten anyone for $7k.  But, if I have to , I'm willing to hire those guys as last resolution.  $4k is better than $0k, right? 

Before I did anything, I wanted to ask you folks if you had better ideas or experience that you would share with me and other ppl here.  Any input or advice would be appeciated.  I know I should've never dealt with bookie in long distance, better yet, I know I should've just not gambled at all.  So, please save your comments about what I should've done before.  What's done is done and I'm just looking for an effective way to handle it.

Thanks in advance.

Obviuosly this guy is not too sharp to be giving you an address in the first place!  He is most likley a low level book, who either got slammed on the Super Bowl, or who your 7K+ has hurt.  Either way get away from this guy when you have completed this action.

I handled this before a ways back like this:  Make contact with him and offer him an out, say 4K? I mean you were going to give 40% to the NY boys, so 4K is better than a bagel! At that point, if he refuses to pay, get the PD involved and break up his operation.  If he refuses you the 4K, then you were never going to get paid ayhow, and he deserves what he gets!!

 

 

 

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I've been dealing with this guy for 2 years now using bookieauto.com.  He was local until he moved out of state to RI about a year ago.  Still, I've been dealing with him since there were no problem with fund transfers or anything.  I was losing most of the time, so I would send him my personal check via mail (to his home address, so I know where he lives) and he would do the same when I won.  Now 2 weeks ago I won $3300 and he told me over the phone that he would mail it out to me that week.  Last week, while waiting for the payment, I won $3700 more.  So, I called him to see how he would take care of it and guess what???  He put my number on restricted calling list and wouldn't answer when I call from another phone.  Still, I haven't received the first payment, and I'm sure that I'm not ever gonna get the 2nd one either.  Also, he had blocked me from loggin into autobookie account, where I have +$125 since tuesday.  I wasn't gonna bet through him anymore until I get the 2 checks anyway, but it pissed me off since he shut me down without telling me.

We all know what bookie would do to you if you don't pay them.  But I've never even heard anyone having issues getting money from one.  I have a couple of ppl in NY who offered to collect it for me for $3k but I'm not sure where it would put me in liability, in case they do something you know, illegal to the bookie or his family.  Believe me, I'm not looking for any violence or to threaten anyone for $7k.  But, if I have to , I'm willing to hire those guys as last resolution.  $4k is better than $0k, right? 

Before I did anything, I wanted to ask you folks if you had better ideas or experience that you would share with me and other ppl here.  Any input or advice would be appeciated.  I know I should've never dealt with bookie in long distance, better yet, I know I should've just not gambled at all.  So, please save your comments about what I should've done before.  What's done is done and I'm just looking for an effective way to handle it.

Thanks in advance.

Obviuosly this guy is not too sharp to be giving you an address in the first place!  He is most likley a low level book, who either got slammed on the Super Bowl, or who your 7K+ has hurt.  Either way get away from this guy when you have completed this action.

I handled this before a ways back like this:  Make contact with him and offer him an out, say 4K? I mean you were going to give 40% to the NY boys, so 4K is better than a bagel! At that point, if he refuses to pay, get the PD involved and break up his operation.  If he refuses you the 4K, then you were never going to get paid ayhow, and he deserves what he gets!!

 

 

 

 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 3:36 PM ET #43

Make contact with him and offer him an out, say 4K?

It sound like a good idea.  I also, do want to make him an offer settle for less if I have to.  The problem though, is that he woundn't even return my phone calls after leaving him so many messages using other phone.

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Make contact with him and offer him an out, say 4K?

It sound like a good idea.  I also, do want to make him an offer settle for less if I have to.  The problem though, is that he woundn't even return my phone calls after leaving him so many messages using other phone.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rocket10:

Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

I handled this before a ways back like this:  Make contact with him and offer him an out, say 4K? 

It sound like a good idea.  I also, do want to make him an offer settle for less if I have to.  The problem though, is that he woundn't even return my phone calls after leaving him so many messages using other phone.

 

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Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

I handled this before a ways back like this:  Make contact with him and offer him an out, say 4K? 

It sound like a good idea.  I also, do want to make him an offer settle for less if I have to.  The problem though, is that he woundn't even return my phone calls after leaving him so many messages using other phone.

 

 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 3:57 PM ET #45

Hey Siyoki - Bottom line  - you want as much as you can get!!  This guy is screwing you, and correct in waiting as long as you can before offering him an out.  But at some point, you need to either get the NY bat boys, which I would stay away from, or get what you can get.  I mean I do not know what the 7K means to you?  That is a good chunk of cabbage, and I feel your frustration.

Maybe because you are located a distance away, he figures you let it go?  But if you have an address, you can do damage to him.

Good luck -

 

 

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Hey Siyoki - Bottom line  - you want as much as you can get!!  This guy is screwing you, and correct in waiting as long as you can before offering him an out.  But at some point, you need to either get the NY bat boys, which I would stay away from, or get what you can get.  I mean I do not know what the 7K means to you?  That is a good chunk of cabbage, and I feel your frustration.

Maybe because you are located a distance away, he figures you let it go?  But if you have an address, you can do damage to him.

Good luck -

 

 

 
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Posted: Feb. 15, 2010 - 4:27 PM ET #46

I think in theory making a deal for 4k or so sounds like a plan, but it also shows a weakness...I would tell him you want it all and this isn't going to go away until you get paid in full...If HE is the one that offers a deal, then maybe you think about it, but never offer first...And if you talk to him on the phone never threaten anything, only face to face.  I'm sure this guy is a small timer that thinks you are going to cut your losses, and people like this need their jaw realigned...This is about principal too, not just about the money.  You know if you owed money u would make good, so this guy is basically showing you he doesn't respect you..You need to take care of it and not let it go on and on..
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I think in theory making a deal for 4k or so sounds like a plan, but it also shows a weakness...I would tell him you want it all and this isn't going to go away until you get paid in full...If HE is the one that offers a deal, then maybe you think about it, but never offer first...And if you talk to him on the phone never threaten anything, only face to face.  I'm sure this guy is a small timer that thinks you are going to cut your losses, and people like this need their jaw realigned...This is about principal too, not just about the money.  You know if you owed money u would make good, so this guy is basically showing you he doesn't respect you..You need to take care of it and not let it go on and on..
 
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I just called and left him another message saying that he wants to call me by tomorrow or I'd take some actions such as reporting him to the police and/or putting in his real name and location here so that anyone could google him to see what he's doing to me. 

I have pictures of transaction history screens of autobookie.com that shows how he owes me the dough, so I could use them againt him.  And I know that I'm not going to get paid this way, but at least I'll get the pleasure of watching him go down.  Funny thing is that he changed the voicemail greeting to Verizon lady repeating his number where it used to be his voice saying his name.  What an idiot!  It was kinda cute though...

As for collectors, I'm in the process of finding the right one so if you guys want to hook me up with one that has been in the business for a while and has rep, it'd be greatly appeciated! 

Well, for now, I'll just wait and see if he'd call me by tomorrow.  I want to Thank You All again for your support.

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I just called and left him another message saying that he wants to call me by tomorrow or I'd take some actions such as reporting him to the police and/or putting in his real name and location here so that anyone could google him to see what he's doing to me. 

I have pictures of transaction history screens of autobookie.com that shows how he owes me the dough, so I could use them againt him.  And I know that I'm not going to get paid this way, but at least I'll get the pleasure of watching him go down.  Funny thing is that he changed the voicemail greeting to Verizon lady repeating his number where it used to be his voice saying his name.  What an idiot!  It was kinda cute though...

As for collectors, I'm in the process of finding the right one so if you guys want to hook me up with one that has been in the business for a while and has rep, it'd be greatly appeciated! 

Well, for now, I'll just wait and see if he'd call me by tomorrow.  I want to Thank You All again for your support.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

This is if I were to report him to the police.  It's getting late

I'll keep you guys updated.

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This is if I were to report him to the police.  It's getting late

I'll keep you guys updated.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

I have pictures of transaction history screens of autobookie.com that shows how he owes me the dough, so I could use them againt him.  And I know that I'm not going to get paid this way, but at least I'll get the pleasure of watching him go down.

This is if I were to report him to the police.  It's getting late

I'll keep you guys updated.

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Quote Originally Posted by siyoki77:

I have pictures of transaction history screens of autobookie.com that shows how he owes me the dough, so I could use them againt him.  And I know that I'm not going to get paid this way, but at least I'll get the pleasure of watching him go down.

This is if I were to report him to the police.  It's getting late

I'll keep you guys updated.

 
 
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All you guys that are saying you will hire someone to collect the money, what changes when the guy goes to collect the money and the book still doesnt have it... I have heard people say he will without a doubt come up with the money in that case... I just dont get it.  Say I lost 3,000 to a bookie and he said I have a guy coming to collect it, I don't have it and a guy showing up to collect it is not going to make it appear?? So what's the guy gonna do, kill me?? Other wise the collector would just be turned into the police... I am just trying to figure out what you are saying these collectors will do if they dont get there money.... Because the money wont just appear if you dont have it... Know what i'm trying to say?
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All you guys that are saying you will hire someone to collect the money, what changes when the guy goes to collect the money and the book still doesnt have it... I have heard people say he will without a doubt come up with the money in that case... I just dont get it.  Say I lost 3,000 to a bookie and he said I have a guy coming to collect it, I don't have it and a guy showing up to collect it is not going to make it appear?? So what's the guy gonna do, kill me?? Other wise the collector would just be turned into the police... I am just trying to figure out what you are saying these collectors will do if they dont get there money.... Because the money wont just appear if you dont have it... Know what i'm trying to say?
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