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you really expect that sony is going to make a needless press release confirming rumors that were uglier
than that rootkit stuff....ummm.....let me get back to you on that lippsman...
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by lippsman:
Hell, they were still at the office. Sony's cost is about $850 U.S. per unit. So that's about a $350 hit, on a $500 retail price point.
Pretty much what I thought. Ok, I was $50 off...........
i checked it and you were right, its about 300.. (I was using an old article i read months ago when people were still speculating about the price and that news article had the price at about 1300 to manufacture one PS3....(Again that was an old article i was remembering.
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by lippsman:
Oh no that is true. In fact they were kicking around you are really only leasing the software from when you are buying it. They claim you can't sell it on ebay.
Yeah, that will stand. Tell the truth lippsman...You know damn well that this nonsense was scrapped long ago.
jackjaffee: You can not make a judgement like that based on your friend's decision to wait on a price drop. I likewise know several are willing to pre-order the Ps3. Remember that the playstation market is vastly superior to the other two consoles combined. You are bound to get a sect of consumers in the lower income bracket who simply cant afford to pay 500 bucks for a console. I am sure Sony is full aware of this and is banking on the core of their market share being able to afford this unit. One thing i have to say on the issue of the two consoles, xbox and Ps3 i was really dissappointed in the shift from games and the drive to turn consoles into some shitty ass family entertainment centers. This drive germinated from the microsoft side after varios attempts to develop a family media center flopped on them.. ( i forgot the name of that silly little gimmick they came out with and it backfired badly)
Microsoft started this stupid ass drive to make some mythical family entertainment center and Sony, like the idiots they are followed along. I have to say that Sony is also guilty of forcing their blu-ray tech on the public by forcing it onto the Ps3 console. This is one of the issues that makes it unnecessarily expensive. They want to corner the market on the next generation DVds and as such have forced this upon gamers being, that few would be willing to spring for a stand alone hd-dvd or blue ray. Sony wants to give themselves an artificial jumpstart in this format war by forcing this product and hoping it will translate into blu ray sales.
As of recent, there was a release stating that sony is attempting to refocus on the games alone. (Which is the whole point..If microsoft wants to blunder into that bullshit media center territory, Sony should stand aside and let them commit that ritual suicide alone and not panic)
About my hate for the Nintendo, its not so much for the company but the stupidity of the Nintendo fan boys who are too stupid to see the glaring truth. Like that guy cheering because nintendo is gonna sell him a bogus unit not even considered a next generation console (I have the quote from Mark Rein from Epic saying this exact thing and he has looked at all units and his company is making games for xbox and Ps3) In his posts he brags about how nintendo is going to make profits off a cheap rip off (which the Wii really is) as though he is gonna get a check in the mail
I just cant stand a grown man who goes around talking about Mario and friggin Zelda....Silly childrens games that he wants so badly for every one to believe a grown man can play this shit...(yeah, i bet you were a pink little tutu with tights and prance around the house before you settle in for a pokemon friggin playing orgy)
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Clay.H | 36 |
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i meant 300$ a system
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by lippsman:
Nintendo's fan base is kids. That's the bottom line. And they keep thier products priced where almost every kid can actually get one under the tree. They are not even fighting for the same base that the X-Box and the Playstation are jockeying for. As long as they hit thier internal numbers they will be satisfied.
Even though the PS3 is much better with thier engine, software and hardware. Thier base is going to be the 20 something year olds that have saved every penny from thier job to buy this thing. Also some of the upper middle class homes that will put one under the tree. Not a big percentage though.
They are taking about a $300 bite on each system.
I have forgotten the real numbers but i think you are a little bit off on that figure. Sony is swallowing a much bigger bite that 300% a system. (Have you seen what either hd-dvd or blu-ray players alone are selling for on the open market?)
they are losing more than 300 per unit.
Either case, i would have to be an idiot to pass up on a chance to buy this machine with such awesome power being sold to me for a mere pittance of its actual value. Any half witted shopper would whole heartedly agree that its only logical to spring for the quality machine being sold to you at a huge discount over 50% (And on the other side we have this clown actually celebrating the facts that Nintendo will profit from the sale of their units out-the-box for a product that is the most inferior by far on the market Some one needs to remind this fool that nintendo profits dont count for anything towards your own bottom line)
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by lippsman:
Even though the PS3 is much better with thier engine, software and hardware. Thier base is going to be the 20 something year olds that have saved every penny from thier job to buy this thing. Also some of the upper middle class homes that will put one under the tree. Not a big percentage though.
I hope when you say "not a big percentage though" you are only referring to the upper middle class.
Because sony's current market share overall by far out weighs that of Nintendo so much so that its not even debatable. Nintendo is not even on the same planet with sony in that category.
About the "upper middle class" of America, there is no debate here either. Upper middle class of america will not be caught dead arguing over a 500$ computer..(no way in hell). (These are homes that have easily 300k or more a year in income. 500 bucks going towards a new powerful game that doubles as a new blue ray player is not rocket science. They will spring for the product that actually gives them the most for their buck...(being that almost all middle upper class households already have HD)
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by lippsman:
Nintendo's fan base is kids. That's the bottom line. And they keep thier products priced where almost every kid can actually get one under the tree. They are not even fighting for the same base that the X-Box and the Playstation are jockeying for. As long as they hit thier internal numbers they will be satisfied.
I agree with you on this point. Nintendos core market is kids from around 5-13 or so..(not scientific.)
Its ridiculous for some one to come on here and try to defend the immaturity level of nintendo games by infering they have some deeper subtext we adults dont get. That is a pile of bullshit. Thats why i gave this lout that example of how i like Tom and Jerry cartoons like my little nieces and nephews who find it a funny cartoon. However you wont find me making a stupid claim like Tom and jerry cartoons not childish slap stick
crap. I admit i like them, i admit i never grew out of them I wouldnt for a second even try to sell you on the idea that there is some deeper subtext story crap going on there.(incidentally i only like the old ones, the new ones really suck)
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Clay.H | 36 |
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BTW....Care to tell us how the gamecube faired? Beaten up and kicked to the back row by an upstart
Xbox, while not even sniffing the entrails of Sony Ps2 farts that went on to obliterate game cube sales?
Its amazing how myopic retarded people are. We even have history that one can use to foretell the future of this stupid experiment called the Wii, but this moron wants us to quickly forget the numerous bombs nintendo has unleashed on their unsuspecting consumers..
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Sn0:
Boy. You showed me. You certainly do have a lot of time on your hands posting this shit.
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Does the truth hurt...poor little geek? Its obvious that the facts all speak against that embarrassing little sham of a box called a Wii. Thats why you choose personal attacks instead of focusing on the facts. But i dont blame you, there are no facts to back up the soon to be extinct xbox.
And you think i post here to impress chicks, you have got to be the most retarded idiot on this forum. I have all the "chicks" i need in my gf....(insert long rant about how big my dick is and how i get 10 girls a week, like you loser geeks do in practically every argument you get bitch slapped in...)
I could care less what you think about my social life.
Fact still remains the nintendo is a worthless little shit of scam being sold to retarded idiots like you who go
goo goo and gaaa gaaa over the first shiny thing flashed in their faces....
folks, this idiot is actually comparing Sony, a company that had decided to take a huge loss by selling the
Ps3 at 500. A price even he himself has said is much lower than the true cost of the unit. But he is excited on the other hand by a company selling a shitty little box, that actually makes nintendo money out of the box. Nintendo simply removed all options that would have increased the price of their product and actually cut corners to produce a sub par unit with technology that will be probably be absolete in under a year or two when compared to xbox360 or the ps3.
Only a stupid ass consumer would get excited because the company he is buying a product from is actually making a profit while selling him an inferior product....(And people say i diss folks alot of this forum..If that isnt the very picture of a retarded dumbass then i dont know what is)
I on the other hand, i am excited about buying a super computing game machine at a mere fraction of the actual cost of the machine, that will serve me , and grow by leaps and bounds over the next 5 years while these silly nintendo WII's will have reached the maximum output that still cant even compare to half the power of the Xbox or the PS3.....
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Sn0:
Sony Has Crippled Itself With Pricey PlayStation 3 20 hours a week on video games? I consider myself a geek as I'm pretty heavy into the IT industry. But 20 hours a week? That's a part time job! I have more important shit to do. Actually 20 hours aint shit. I am a full time gambler. I knock off my football homework in a little over 2 hours a day and play in between errands and shit.
It aint a thing to me...(Especially being that i have a vast library provided by my consoles of games that are actually interesting...)
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Clay.H | 36 |
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folks check out this link that shows a demo of one of the Ps3 games coming out soon.
top notch graphics, new ideas and something that actually challenges you. Instead of the same old washed
up stupid mario crap that is simply recycled and regurgitated for mentally retarded nintendo fans who go goo
goo eyes because of a newly named mario game.. Same shit as the games i played as a kid, with idiotic challenges, but i guess when you are retarded, it does not take much to peak your interest. (I bet you show this guy anything shiny and the drool is running thick down his mouth..)
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Folks click on this link to check out some game reviews of the Wii. I have tried out that silly gadget and will say again, its a totally over hyped gimmick and gets very boring in less than 10 minutes of play. And those graphis shown on that page for call of duty 3 are not even nintendo graphics. As the article explains nintendo graphics really suck compared to the xbox or ps3..(but i guess this bozo expects us to swallow that crap because we can afford HD and his poor little broke ass cant afford it.)
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Clay.H | 36 |
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By the way.. lest you you think we are all retards who forget recent history..Isnt this the exact same crap you idiots said about the PS2 that was pricey and also sold at a loss for SOny....
Look what happened.. Sony ended up recouping those losses and got the largest share market...
New year, new machine same old four eyed gimpy geeks wearing out those wires in between their teeth bitching about the death of the Ps3 simply because they live with momma and she aint buying you the best bitching toy on the market.
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Sn0:
Sony Has Crippled Itself With Pricey PlayStation 3 They actually MADE MONEY off the Gamecube. Which is more than Microsoft or Sony can say about their systems. The Dreamcast for example. It was a great console. .
As I said above. I'm not loyal to any specific company. But while the Xbox 360 and PS3 are so damn pricey, look for the WII to pick up people not willing to pay so much. Especially since PC's are getting cheaper all the time. That is a complete lie. Sony by far out paces the nintendo in games sold and profits its not even friggin debatable. You are not talking to some dumbass retard who hasnt looked at both companies books.
And screw you and your pious bullshit about what i should like and what i shouldnt like. I dont give a rats ass if you spend all week buried knee deep in stupid ass old cartoony shit...
It does not change shit...its childish cartoony shit that mental retards whose brains got stuck on friggin neutral enjoy playing. Too bad your mind lacks a hunger for something more challenging and appealing. Fine i like GTA, its more realistic, has better graphics and provides me with challenges and entertainment that actually gets my neurons firing.
I got sick of your stupid nintendo graphics and third grade type games of some stupid italian plumber...What a friggin moron do you have to be to constantly buy the same repetitive boring ass games with the same stupid challenges that consist of running off ramps and collecting gold coins and rewards and shit.
You remind me of a skit in the very game GTA that was done about morons like you..."Pogo the monkey" playing friggin retards.
If you cant afford a friggin xbox or even a ps3, then bozo do yourself a favor, buy your silly little nintendo shit so you can spend all day playing the one game a quarter those idiots release. (And then check your little pompous attitude at the door because you are one broke little bitch that really shouldnt talk smack if you cant spring 500 hundo for a blu ray friggin drive..Mr el cheapo)
And with this shit about ps3 being HD...so friggin what? People without HD can still buy it and it will work fine on their tvs. They will actually have good games like GOW, GTA, and so on..(i could be hear all day listing cool PS games that simply dwarf the miserable little library for nintendo.)
Nintendo aint gonna pick up shit. They my have a small spike early on but as soon as people figure out what pretty much every video game reviewer is saying about that WII and that stupid tiresome control that gets boring in less than 10 minutes play, Sales of the xbox and ps3 will level out.
And you might not know this but HD tv is catching on very fast in many house holds.
You and your little archiac fun box will be extinct within 2 years and hopefully we wont have to put up with you slobbering gap toothed star wars geeks stinking up vegas with that bad breath you bring down every year.
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Smokedawg:
whoa whoa whoa...hold on a sec here...did a self proclaimed 'big-time gamer' who spends at least '15-20 hours a week gaming' really just call someone else an 'immature geek'? THAT is hillarious Immature geek= any idiot who owns a nintendo and loves stupid games like zelda...
regular geek= Any one who plays 20 hours of games on pc, xbox, ps3 a week.
Huge difference bozo...
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Sn0:
Calling yourself an experienced gamer and you pick what console you like best before you've even used it?
diversity and the freedom provided by such consoles
You want diversity and freedom? Buy a PC. 'nuff said. didnt say i picked any console from either xbox or 360..(I am mostly a pc gamer by the way not a console gamer only)
I said i tested the silly nintendo and i found it to be amusing for only the first 10 minutes until it occured to me that the WII on the surface looks like a smart concept until you figure that if that silly thing is applied to any of the games off your pc, xbox, ps3 or even the nintendo itself, its totally impracticle and absurd.
They might as well rename it "Trim WII" because it will help those multitudes of fat geeks lose a bunch of fat after flailing their arms around for 20 mins and passing out from exhaustion...
I am not just dissing the console. I am being realistic. Pretty much every creditable gaming mag has pointed out that this arm flailing bullshit wears on you very quickly..
And lets continue with the facts, Have you seen the line up for the WII? are you friggin kidding me?
Lets be real...you really expect me to buy that piece of shit with no HD so i get to buy one friggin game a quarter? Dude, what brand of crack are you smokin?
I know you fanboys hate the truth, but i speak it as i see it. If that Wii had more mature games, i would give it a try, lord knows i hate to squander 500 hundo on a console after already getting the 360... But i am not wasting my cash on that childish piece of shit!
And i dont give a rats ass how good you think Zelda is. Its a childish cartoon friggin game, just like sonic the hedgehog and all those other mind numblingly childish crap nintendo cant seem to stop pushing.
You seem to have a problem distinguishing between the two. I still like watching tom and jerry cartoons, but i dont kid myself. the cartoon is silly and childish. Thats why my little nieces and nephews like that crap so much. Just because i enjoy watching it too does not some how turn it into a mature cartoon..
Get a clue...geek.
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Choccy:
Doesn't matter that it's not in HD. Good games are good games. The wii is going to steal the show from the other two, no doubt. this is hilarious... I am a big time gamer who spends at least 15-20 hours a week gaming and i have never seen so much obvious bullshit precede the release of a console like the WII. I have tested it and found it mildly amusing for the first 10 minutes. After that, it quickly becomes very very boring and tiresome.
I can play video games for stretches of 1-4 hours straight, there will never ever be a a game i would waste my 4 hours one flailing my arms with that idiotic contraption for the Wii.
Tell yourself what you want, but you know the truth. That gadget really becomes tiresome in less than 20 minutes even for the most hardcore gamer.
And what is it with you nintendo fanboys? You take the meaning of the word geek to the extreme. I still cant imagine what grown man still brags about playing mind numblingly dull childish immature shit like zelda or mario cart..(I believe those are the only two games nintendo has, )
You can lie to yourself all you want. Nintendo will always be a small time niche gadget for immature geeks who cant seem to grow the Fark up!!!! (friggin Zelda......Zelda.....dude...grow up will you?)
Ps...My 500 hundo is ready and waiting for the PS3 and the mature games for progressive adults who enjoy diversity and the freedom provided by such consoles. (Not a huge fan of 360 but i give it a passing grade )
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Clay.H | 36 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Ragone15:
There's only 17 games on the board you should be playing this weekend |
Corbby | 284 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Ragone15:
alias go suck and egg you disgusting maggot... Are you bored with Eames you dumb phuck!
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Corbby | 284 |
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Sources close to IGN are reporting that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist has nearly succeeded in his effort to amend a Port Securities bill with prohibitive Internet gambling legislation. Frist, R-Tenn., has reportedly added provisions introduced by Rep. Jim Leach, R-Iowa, which target U.S.-based banks, credit card companies and other Internet payment systems, prohibiting them from making payments to online gambling companies
I dont use NEtteller or any of the listed online payment systems. But i would gather the above language undoubtedly indicates that these companies are specifically being targeted
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Corbby | 284 |
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