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Alabama was a clear choice over Ohio State. It's laughable to hear the arguement that OSU's conference wins were so much better than Alabama's to excuse losing by 15 at home and 31 on the road to IOWA. The Big 10 was the only conference to not have an out of conference top 25 win. The Big 10 lost by a combined score of 69-0 in their last 2 playoff games. The Big 10 went 3-7 last year in bowls, 0-3 in games decided by 14 or more points. The Big 10 has won 42% of their bowl games the last 5 years, 28% winning percentage in bowls games decided by 14 or more. The Big 10 has won 39% of their bowl games the last 10 years, 23% winning percentage in bowl games decided by 14 or more. The SEC has won 64% of their bowl games the last 5 years, 73% winning percentage in bowl games decided by 14 or more. The SEC has won 64% of their bowl games the last 10 years, 72% winning percentage in bowl games decided by 14 or more. Those numbers are more than just a small trend, it's reality. You can tell me previous years shouldn't matter, but what else do we have to go by? Schedules are made years in advance. Most teams will play 1 big out of conference game in September and then another in a bowl game. The Big 10 has been over rated for a decade. They are basically a 1 team conference (Ohio State). It's just crazy for me to hear that OSU deserved that 4th spot because of all their great conference wins. I agree that Bama's schedule wasn't great, but to me that FSU win was a really good win. There just aren't enough games played in college football to ever have a clear picture at the end of the regular season. A lot of years 1 team or conference is going to get the benefit of the doubt over another. It's easy for me to give bama(sec) the benefit of the doubt over osu(big 10). |
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The deciding factor was Ohio State's fan base is 5 times bigger than Baylor's and TCU's put together. Give NW OSU's resume and give Texas the resume of either Baylor or TCU and the committee picks Texas 10 out of 10 times. The committee and the NCAA's tv partner, espn, will give you a bunch of reason for the result, but its all about MONEY. It's no different than the previous system when it came to choosing the at-large teams for the bcs bowls. The sec bias gets talked about frequently, but its there for the big 10 too. The difference is the sec backs it up on the field. The big 10 has been awful in bowl games for years and this year their top 4 teams all lost a non conference game. I bring this up because anyone saying osu deserved to be in must be pointing to their 9-0 big 10 record being enough to offset losing by 14 at HOME to a bad Virginia Tech team. |
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Konerko is obvious choice i'd say Morrow if he is healthy Both Haren and Lincy were busts last year but lincy's velocity was back the one spring outing i saw him throw so i'd go with him. Better pitcher's ballpark than Haren too. |
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I dont understand why anyone besides the few people that took the bet care if he bans himself. Anyone that has paid attention and has a clue about college football themselves only clicks on his threads for 5 minutes of entertainment. He is a Clemson homer living in the southeast who has a real bad case of little brother syndrome when it comes to the SEC. He is the Skip Bayless of covers. He'll ignore 10 things that disprove his opinion and focus on the 1 that supports it. He just doesnt "get it", but so what? Just like you can change the channel when skip is spewing his BS, you can just not click on his thread. I do understand why everyone is taking shots at the guy because he brought that on himself. He can be very arrogant and rude when anyone dares to disagree with 1 of his "facts" about college football. I could care less if he ever posts on covers again. After those 2 beatdowns yesterday he probably doesnt have anything to say at the moment. He seems like too much of an attention prostitute to never tell the world how much he knows about college football and how over rated the SEC is ever again. |
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Does anybody want me to prove to them that the BCS is garbage...and the polls are Bias?
in College Football Quote Originally Posted by buckeyefan80:
Should probably check your facts first eazy...it's 0-9 ONLY bc tOSU had to vacate the win against Ark & that's only in bowl games. But you really don't want to bring up the SEC in bowl games. Even if they've won 6 in a row, they are still under .500 in ALL bowl games the last few years or so.
Something to do with their 15 B contract
The SEC has won 66% of their bowl games the last 6 years. FACT Walt Disney has roughly the same amount of money invested in media rights with the SEC as the other top conferences per year. FACT If you want to talk about money influencing cfb and robbing teams and fans of what they deserve, lets talk about how the crappy big 10 gets 2 bcs games most years. |
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Does anybody want me to prove to them that the BCS is garbage...and the polls are Bias?
in College Football Quote Originally Posted by gwjtf:
Boom - I have to say the initial premise of this thread is spot on -- ie, if you happen to be an upper tier SEC team, you're ranked in the top 10 or 15 no matter what; if you lose, you only knock down in rankings 5 positions or so (if you are B10, B12, P12, ACC, or god forbid BEast), you go down at least 10 positions or more off a loss and often more. What it means is this: no matter what happens, SEC has at least 3 teams in the top six or so - no matter how many times they lose to one another, they ALWAYS have at least one team in the championship, and/or at least another 3 in the BCS so they get the $$$.
BTW, ESPN/ABC which has rights to televise most of these games has contractually invested $2B in which conference? The SEC - none other. Do you think they have just a tiny bit of influence in deciding the mysterious factors no one can precisely define that determine BCS rankings? The collusion of financial interest that is so deafeningly silent on all the networks makes a conspiracy theorist of us all ....
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Walt Disney has contracts with every conference where they share media rights with other networks such as Fox, CBS, and BTN. These are some of the current deals conferences have. SEC 15 years / 3.0 billion total value Big12 13 years / 2.6 billion Pac12 12 year / 2.7 billion ACC 12 year / 1.86 billion (Walt Disney has exclusive rights to the ACC) Walt Disny has also invested tons of money into 1 school for the Longhorn Network. |
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Does anybody want me to prove to them that the BCS is garbage...and the polls are Bias?
in College Football I would say that if SEC teams get "extra credit" its because SEC teams have won the last 6 national titles. A 35-18 bowl record over that time, playing teams that finished in an equal spot or higher in their own conference with their bowl tie ins, probably has something to do with it. The arguement that its a new season can be made year after year but doesnt hold up until the year they dont get it done in the postseason. I cant stand ESPN and their agendas either. As far as it relates to SEC football, what do they have to gain by promoting it? Do they have more money invested in tv deals with them than other conferences? Or do you have other facts to support this? There are a lot of highly ranked teams who dont have much of a resume at the midway point of the season with their tougher games in the 2nd half of the year. Have you said anything about Oregon's resume? Who have they beat? I guess that wouldnt do anything to support your anti-SEC agenda. |
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Personally I think the top of the SEC is better than the top of the Big East but the Big East probably will get twice as many teams in like always. Your average sports gambler probably watches atleast twice as many hours of college hoops than anyone on the committee throughout the season. I have had the opinion for awhile that because the selection committe members dont watch enough games they are heavily influenced by ESPN with their polls, power rankings, bracketology, and opinions of their "expert" commentators. ESPN airs more Big East games than any other conference and airs every game of the Big East tourney so its in their best interest to hype up that conference. Since we are talking about the NCAA of course money and how they can make the most is an issue.
Last 2 years in the tourney Big East 19 Bids (10 of those top 4 seeds which are almost gimme 1st round wins) 20 wins SEC 9 Bids (4 top 4 seeds) 14 wins Pac 12 6 Bids (0 top 4 seeds) 8 wins
SEC teams dont get shown much love unless they are a top 5 team like Kentucky this year. ESPN has taken shots at the pac 10, now 12, for years. Maybe because they only air about 3 of their games a year? I'm not trying to say that the Pac 12 is anywhere close to as good as the Big East this year. The 2 worst perceived conferences of the power 6 combined for more wins than the highly touted Big East the last 2 tourneys. They did it with 4 fewer teams and lower seeds. What conference you belong to is just as important as how good you are when it comes to getting into the tourney and how high you are seeded. I doubt it changes any time soon.
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will79 | 6 |
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Northern State is a below average D2 team. I dont think they finished in the top 8 of their conference last year to qualify for their conference tourney.
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PurduePride2206 | 14 |
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better question is why onside kick it if you didnt go for 2
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TRAIN69 | 7 |
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The best TEAM in the country is going to win the title. Texas only faced 3 top 40 defenses this year, Ok St, Nebraska, Oklahoma. Before anyone claims Texas would have won if not for the McCoy injury they should look to see how he did against those teams. Not to mention that Texas #1 rush defense faced 0 teams in the top 20 in the country in rushing offense.
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accventures | 28 |
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so far today i've had uconn -1.5 in a tease that would have hit(hail mary) parlay with ohio state and the over(0 points in the 4th and 3 missed fgs and i miss the over by 3) indiana(miss by a half point afer getting outscored 28-0 in the 4th including a break away td running out the clock when the game was over) so look at it this way, things could be worse for you |
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Jamarcus Russell 60 million dollar contract? worst investment in sports ever?
in NFL Betting As a Raiders fan who who shed a tear when they drafted Russell because I knew it would set the team back 5 years, I'd have to say Russell takes the cake here (and eats the cake too). You could make an arguement for other guys looking at it financially, but in the NFL when you waste a #1 pick like that, commit the cap space to him, and then throw away several seasons trying to prove you were justified taking him that high it sets your franchise back a lot more than in the other 2 sports. Taking Russell #1 was the biggest blunder in a handful of awful moves by the Raiders in the last few years and as a Raiders fan I know there is no chance of being good again until senile Al Davis is dead or in a nursing home.
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