Posted:
#1
A big joke- hell don't even rush, if ir goes to -17, still take Temple- They have been a whippingboard for too long!
Future reference; don't bet against them, and that goes for all year long
TEMPLE -7 over Army take the gift This is a joke!
Posted:
#5
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
how many starters is temple returning?? is army in that much trouble this year???
gl bro
how many starters is temple returning?? is army in that much trouble this year???
gl bro
Temple has been the most pathetic joke for years. Every year there are teams that have been garbage and come out of the gate to make a statement and the owls are one of them this year IMO.
Considering the big injuries last year and the fact that they had diaper guys on that team they played real hard and won 4 Big games!
Here are the PROs and CONs;
Temple PROs; Coach Al Gordon is there to put them on the map in the MAC.
-Senior QB (Dimichele) is back from injury!
- there are 23 returning starters! 10 on offense 11 on defense! The offense is stacked! that is as a Temple team.
-Defense; Temple was the number one leader in the MAC Conf. last year in pass D and Total D! and every player returns!
Army CONs; The Pro backfield is gone. They are changing this year to the Option offense. The problem is (as any change to offense) is weather you have the right athletes to make it happen and you cannot put the option in overnight. It attracts certain players that run it in high school and Army ain't got em!
- QB Carson Williams is a drop back passer. Though they do have an incoming freshman that is coming in and he indeed ran the option in High School, but he is still a freshman.
- Offense; they only return 3 starters from a team that adv 17 points a game last year.
- Defense; only 5 starters return that gave up over 400 yds and 31 points a game. All the secondary are new. Though the 5 returning starters are on the line (all juniors) and should be pretty good against the run, maybe?
I am not asking Temple to beat Penn St. but I am the Owls to come out of the gate to make a statement with all returning players that started to make a statement last year until injuries (but still was pretty solid). On top of that! They are going up against a depleted Army team that lost next to everyone that was garbage to begin with, and now, they change their offense to the option without the personel?
Temple is moving FORWARD and Army is moving BACKWARDS (and will be for a few years) so I will lay the 7 on a friday night and look for Temple to win by 17+ GL
Posted:
#6
Returns 11 on ball saides of the ball and 53 players overall
but is it a good thing 
Might be the most Over hyped team in the (small Confernces)
Only averaged 2.7 yards per carry on 2007
Defense looks pretty good and will face a much easier schedule in 2008 
A Major key will be 
QB Adam Dimichele and if he can take big step forward after breaking his leg Ly.
QB Adam Dimichele and if he can take big step forward after breaking his leg Ly.I think they are 1 more year away from really competing in the the much improved MAC
Temple Schedule
at Army W3+ Lost by 16 Ly
U Conn L13+ Nice Cover +30 Ly lost by 5
at Buffalo L14+ 25 carries for -36 yards LY
at Penn St. L24+
W. Mich. L13+
at Miami Ohio L 14+
at CMU L17+
Ohio W3+
at Navy L17+
at Kent St. L14+
Eastern Mich. L3+
Akron W7+
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
Posted:
#9
Nice write-up FatReggie.
DoubleUp, as for last years game, Temple outgained Army 463-329 including 359-175 passing. Army's secondary is more suspect this year than last year - even their own fans are worried about the secondary.
Army scored on an opening kick-off return, a punt return, and
[gotdamnit I wasn't done with that shit!]
a 69 yard strike to Trimble graduated. (who had 125 yds on 5 catches, and the punt TD)
Temple also had 11 penalties for 89 yards and 5 turnovers which was well above their season averages of 6-49 and 2 (their away avg was 5-43 and 2) Army did have 6 penalties for 70 yards and 3 turnovers themselves, which is slightly above their average of 4-31 and 2.5.
Also, (hope I'm not insulting anyone's intelligence) don't assume that since this year's game is at Michie that last year's was at home; last year's game was at Michie too and was the 3rd road game in 14 days for the Owls.
With all that being said I'm banking on the Owls to be much improved as well as Army being down the whole year, especially in the first game; enough to get me a Temple win by -7 or more.
Betting on Temple is new and different, and feels kind of weird, but feels good nonetheless - kind of like jacking off with my left hand.
Posted:
#10
I feel uneasy about backing temple as a favorite. Last year when I showed up in Vegas I told my cabbie I was in town for the first CFL games and I was backing UNLV(local team). He asked me how many points they were getting and I told him they were favorites. His response. "That doesn't happen very often"
My point.... I don't have a point other than -175 on the moneyline will be my play for temple.
$350 to bring $200 will be $200 more to roll into Saturday with!
Just need to win!
Posted:
#11
Army has to replace their entire receiving corps, half of the line on both sides of the ball and their entire secondary.
Temple returns EVERYBODY and has the 2nd best D-Line in the MAC.
Army seems to be going backwards in that they are installing an option offense this year and look to be one of the worst teams in the nation.
Let's look at LY's game between the 2 teams:
-Temple had a 25-14 first down advantage
-Temple outgained Army by 133 yds, but turned the ball over 5 times
-Army scored on 2 kick returns and a defensive TD
This isn't your daddy's Temple. Take the -7, even if its on the road.
Temple returns EVERYBODY and has the 2nd best D-Line in the MAC.
Army seems to be going backwards in that they are installing an option offense this year and look to be one of the worst teams in the nation.
Let's look at LY's game between the 2 teams:
-Temple had a 25-14 first down advantage
-Temple outgained Army by 133 yds, but turned the ball over 5 times
-Army scored on 2 kick returns and a defensive TD
This isn't your daddy's Temple. Take the -7, even if its on the road.
Posted:
#12
MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER
QB Adam DiMichele was on his way to a truly fine season last year when he went down with a broken leg. He's back now and he's healthy, ready to again lead the offense.
QUOTE TO NOTE
"The biggest difference is that the team is intact. We had more players out for the spring than we had on the team last fall. We won't be relying on freshmen as much." -- Temple coach Al Golden on his team as he enters his third year on the job.
Couple of quotes from news concerning Owls- thanks cardinalkid the advatar killer!! preachin to the choir mtrain354-GL
Posted:
#13
Temple lost by 11 to Navy at home last year. Navy runs the option and it gave Temple fits.
However that might mean Temple could've figured out how to stop it seeing as how Navy scored all but 6 of their points in the first half.
I'm leaning towards Temple here, I think they're going to be able to toss the ball all over the field in West Point, especially with a brand new secondary for Army, but I'm going to need to do some further analysis on the game.
However that might mean Temple could've figured out how to stop it seeing as how Navy scored all but 6 of their points in the first half.
I'm leaning towards Temple here, I think they're going to be able to toss the ball all over the field in West Point, especially with a brand new secondary for Army, but I'm going to need to do some further analysis on the game.
Posted:
#14
Quote Originally Posted by CharlieScene:
Temple lost by 11 to Navy at home last year. Navy runs the option and it gave Temple fits.
However that might mean Temple could've figured out how to stop it seeing as how Navy scored all but 6 of their points in the first half.
I'm leaning towards Temple here, I think they're going to be able to toss the ball all over the field in West Point, especially with a brand new secondary for Army, but I'm going to need to do some further analysis on the game.
Temple lost by 11 to Navy at home last year. Navy runs the option and it gave Temple fits.
However that might mean Temple could've figured out how to stop it seeing as how Navy scored all but 6 of their points in the first half.
I'm leaning towards Temple here, I think they're going to be able to toss the ball all over the field in West Point, especially with a brand new secondary for Army, but I'm going to need to do some further analysis on the game.
They have faced option style offenses in 3 of their last 13 games. Navy option gives everyone fits so it's comparing apples to watermelons when looking at navy option and what to expect from Army option. Also, Temple was very competitive in the game vs navy last year.
Army loses best offensive player in Trimble and is likely starting a true freshman at qb.
Army loses it's best defensive player in Campbell.
Temple returns almost everyone and despite losing , outplayed Army last year.
Army can cover but Temple should be the bet. I bet Temple last year as a 3 point favorite and that worked out not so well.
Posted:
#15
Quote Originally Posted by clowncar:
They have faced option style offenses in 3 of their last 13 games. Navy option gives everyone fits so it's comparing apples to watermelons when looking at navy option and what to expect from Army option. Also, Temple was very competitive in the game vs navy last year.
Army loses best offensive player in Trimble and is likely starting a true freshman at qb.
Army loses it's best defensive player in Campbell.
Temple returns almost everyone and despite losing , outplayed Army last year.
Army can cover but Temple should be the bet. I bet Temple last year as a 3 point favorite and that worked out not so well.
I'm just trying to point out how Temple adjusted throughout the game using half time adjustments and such to defend the option a lot better and hold Navy to only 6 2nd half points.
I think with Army's obvious dropoff in talent from Navy that Temple definitely has the potential to win this game by 2+ TD's pretty easily especially with the QB returning and a solid receiving corps. Watch out for #84 Mike Campbell to have a big season this year for Temple.
Posted:
#19
Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:
ok, whats there ats vs.Temple.
i know army will play there best no matter what kind talent is there.
IMO army wins the game, and it wont be considered an upset.
Certainly possible. I would never be shocked by Temple laying an egg. If I was an official, I would never throw a flag against the academies either.
Posted:
#20
OUTLOOK: After picking up four victories last season the Owls are poised to take another step forward in 2008. Both the offense defense should be improved and with a tremendous leader in DiMichele, Temple could post its first winning season in 17 years. There is one thing standing in the way, however, and that is a formidable schedule. Temple must endure seven road games this year, including five in its first seven outings. If the Owls can avoid early pitfalls, they could shock the college football world by posting a winning ledger. (Quote)
it seems that army is still trying to hide their spring status. It seems that army QB last year (non option QB) is still the main guy but in a battle with the young buck.
like to know if anyone has heard anything positive about Army so far for this year?
Posted:
#21
I know they play most of their games in a weak conference but even so these stats from last year's defense are pretty impressive.
*** #44 total D up from #117 in 2006
*** #1 (that's #1) red zone D in the nation LY
*** #21 total pass D in the nation LY
A vastly improving squad that returns 11 on each side of the ball.
Am I actually gonna lay a TD with the Owls on the road ?!? 
take the 7 and forget about it.
Posted:
#23
Quote Originally Posted by cardinalkid:
The left hand can be good too. Like the pick.
Nice write-up FatReggie.
DoubleUp, as for last years game, Temple outgained Army 463-329 including 359-175 passing. Army's secondary is more suspect this year than last year - even their own fans are worried about the secondary.
Army scored on an opening kick-off return, a punt return, and
[gotdamnit I wasn't done with that shit!]
a 69 yard strike to Trimble graduated. (who had 125 yds on 5 catches, and the punt TD)
Temple also had 11 penalties for 89 yards and 5 turnovers which was well above their season averages of 6-49 and 2 (their away avg was 5-43 and 2) Army did have 6 penalties for 70 yards and 3 turnovers themselves, which is slightly above their average of 4-31 and 2.5.
Also, (hope I'm not insulting anyone's intelligence) don't assume that since this year's game is at Michie that last year's was at home; last year's game was at Michie too and was the 3rd road game in 14 days for the Owls.
With all that being said I'm banking on the Owls to be much improved as well as Army being down the whole year, especially in the first game; enough to get me a Temple win by -7 or more.
Betting on Temple is new and different, and feels kind of weird, but feels good nonetheless - kind of like jacking off with my left hand.
Posted:
#25
Quote Originally Posted by FATreggie:
Temple has been the most pathetic joke for years. Every year there are teams that have been garbage and come out of the gate to make a statement and the owls are one of them this year IMO.
Considering the big injuries last year and the fact that they had diaper guys on that team they played real hard and won 4 Big games!
Here are the PROs and CONs;
Temple PROs; Coach Al Gordon is there to put them on the map in the MAC.
-Senior QB (Dimichele) is back from injury!
- there are 23 returning starters! 10 on offense 11 on defense! The offense is stacked! that is as a Temple team.
-Defense; Temple was the number one leader in the MAC Conf. last year in pass D and Total D! and every player returns!
Army CONs; The Pro backfield is gone. They are changing this year to the Option offense. The problem is (as any change to offense) is weather you have the right athletes to make it happen and you cannot put the option in overnight. It attracts certain players that run it in high school and Army ain't got em!
- QB Carson Williams is a drop back passer. Though they do have an incoming freshman that is coming in and he indeed ran the option in High School, but he is still a freshman.
- Offense; they only return 3 starters from a team that adv 17 points a game last year.
- Defense; only 5 starters return that gave up over 400 yds and 31 points a game. All the secondary are new. Though the 5 returning starters are on the line (all juniors) and should be pretty good against the run, maybe?
I am not asking Temple to beat Penn St. but I am the Owls to come out of the gate to make a statement with all returning players that started to make a statement last year until injuries (but still was pretty solid). On top of that! They are going up against a depleted Army team that lost next to everyone that was garbage to begin with, and now, they change their offense to the option without the personel?
Temple is moving FORWARD and Army is moving BACKWARDS (and will be for a few years) so I will lay the 7 on a friday night and look for Temple to win by 17+ GL
Al "Gordon?"
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