Been looking over the lines for future bets & if you want to play futures, do it now before the pre-season because the odds will change if your team performs well in pre-season.
Been looking over the lines for future bets & if you want to play futures, do it now before the pre-season because the odds will change if your team performs well in pre-season.
I like both of your Atlanta plays. It was just two seasons ago the Falcons won 11 games and last year they won 9 despite key injuries, specifically to Matt Ryan and Michael Turner. Also, since the latest realignment of divisions (2002) there has been a different division winner in the NFC South.
I like both of your Atlanta plays. It was just two seasons ago the Falcons won 11 games and last year they won 9 despite key injuries, specifically to Matt Ryan and Michael Turner. Also, since the latest realignment of divisions (2002) there has been a different division winner in the NFC South.
I like both of your Atlanta plays. It was just two seasons ago the Falcons won 11 games and last year they won 9 despite key injuries, specifically to Matt Ryan and Michael Turner. Also, since the latest realignment of divisions (2002) there has been a different division winner in the NFC South.
The Saints will not be as lucky with turnovers on defense as they were last season & you're right, a different winner since 2002, anyone correct us if we are wrong, Falcons to the bank!
I like both of your Atlanta plays. It was just two seasons ago the Falcons won 11 games and last year they won 9 despite key injuries, specifically to Matt Ryan and Michael Turner. Also, since the latest realignment of divisions (2002) there has been a different division winner in the NFC South.
The Saints will not be as lucky with turnovers on defense as they were last season & you're right, a different winner since 2002, anyone correct us if we are wrong, Falcons to the bank!
I really love the 49ers to win division but you got a really bad line as my local has it at -110
Only one of my locals takes future bets on sports & he wont take the bets until one week before the season starts. The lines above are from bookmaker. The 49ers were +110 about 5 or 6 weeks ago at bookmaker but I waited like a dumb ass & got a bad line.
I really love the 49ers to win division but you got a really bad line as my local has it at -110
Only one of my locals takes future bets on sports & he wont take the bets until one week before the season starts. The lines above are from bookmaker. The 49ers were +110 about 5 or 6 weeks ago at bookmaker but I waited like a dumb ass & got a bad line.
I dont mean any offence to anyone here but the odds some of you are willing to accept are unbelievable,
here are the best prices I can find for the futures in the first post,
Falcons Over 9 wins +100 (-130)
Colts Under 11 wins -110 (-130)
Redskins Over 7.5 wins +110 (+100)
49ers to win division +110 (-205 surely a mistake)
Falcons to win division +225 (+145)
Texans to win division +400 (+295)
Even if you cant get on with every bookmaker (who can?) at least shop around and check you are getting something approaching best price.
What sportsbooks are you getting your numbers from? Post the book like Huego did above. Usually the shadiest books have the best lines & I rather get paid when betting , 5dimes is a great book & will look into those numbers.
I dont mean any offence to anyone here but the odds some of you are willing to accept are unbelievable,
here are the best prices I can find for the futures in the first post,
Falcons Over 9 wins +100 (-130)
Colts Under 11 wins -110 (-130)
Redskins Over 7.5 wins +110 (+100)
49ers to win division +110 (-205 surely a mistake)
Falcons to win division +225 (+145)
Texans to win division +400 (+295)
Even if you cant get on with every bookmaker (who can?) at least shop around and check you are getting something approaching best price.
What sportsbooks are you getting your numbers from? Post the book like Huego did above. Usually the shadiest books have the best lines & I rather get paid when betting , 5dimes is a great book & will look into those numbers.
Colts Under 11 wins -110 (-130) Skybet (-120 BWin.com)
Redskins Over 7.5 wins +110 (+100) +110 no longer there +100 best available
49ers to win division +110 (-205
surely a mistake) Coral / Victor Chandler / Sportingbet
Falcons to win division +225 (+145) Betfred / Victor Chandler (+200 Bet365)
Texans to win division +400 (+295) Coral / Victor Chandler / Blue Square / Stan James (+350 Bet365)
Im not suggesting you can get on with all these firms (Im not sure how difficult it is to place bets from Pennsylvania) but they do at least give a guide to the true price of a future.
I have seen plenty of threads shouting about the amazing value of the Ravens, Saints & 49ers for their respective divisions yet all were available at significantly higher odds at the time the bets were posted.
I hate seeing people take massive unders when it is hard enough to win over a season.
Colts Under 11 wins -110 (-130) Skybet (-120 BWin.com)
Redskins Over 7.5 wins +110 (+100) +110 no longer there +100 best available
49ers to win division +110 (-205
surely a mistake) Coral / Victor Chandler / Sportingbet
Falcons to win division +225 (+145) Betfred / Victor Chandler (+200 Bet365)
Texans to win division +400 (+295) Coral / Victor Chandler / Blue Square / Stan James (+350 Bet365)
Im not suggesting you can get on with all these firms (Im not sure how difficult it is to place bets from Pennsylvania) but they do at least give a guide to the true price of a future.
I have seen plenty of threads shouting about the amazing value of the Ravens, Saints & 49ers for their respective divisions yet all were available at significantly higher odds at the time the bets were posted.
I hate seeing people take massive unders when it is hard enough to win over a season.
I agree with you on this. However, it is virtually impossible for US customers to get on at any European sportsbooks. They have a block on ANY us customers.
Good job UK customers don;t have a block on the US Sportsbooks as we wouldn;t be able to access them and find prices which look big in essence.
Over the years, i've seen US firms price up NFL divisions to around 117-120%, scandalous really as most UK firms bet to around 110-112 on them
I agree with you on this. However, it is virtually impossible for US customers to get on at any European sportsbooks. They have a block on ANY us customers.
Good job UK customers don;t have a block on the US Sportsbooks as we wouldn;t be able to access them and find prices which look big in essence.
Over the years, i've seen US firms price up NFL divisions to around 117-120%, scandalous really as most UK firms bet to around 110-112 on them
Yes UKIRONMAN I thought that might be the case (though I also thought there were ways round it?)
I think because NFL isnt a sport commonly bet on in europe (in comparison to the US) bookmakers have to offer much better value in order to attract any decent money. Where as in the US bookies are guilty of basically taking the piss with some of the percentages on offer as they are more or less guaranteed to lay bets at any price.
Yes UKIRONMAN I thought that might be the case (though I also thought there were ways round it?)
I think because NFL isnt a sport commonly bet on in europe (in comparison to the US) bookmakers have to offer much better value in order to attract any decent money. Where as in the US bookies are guilty of basically taking the piss with some of the percentages on offer as they are more or less guaranteed to lay bets at any price.
I have been checking out NFL lines offered by European shops myself you can do wonders and would be surprised at the differences in prices . saw most places had Skins 7½ Under -120 or so the other day and found 7 Un-115 or something like that at Stan James .
I have been checking out NFL lines offered by European shops myself you can do wonders and would be surprised at the differences in prices . saw most places had Skins 7½ Under -120 or so the other day and found 7 Un-115 or something like that at Stan James .
49ers at -205 and Texans at +295 are AWFUL prices DO NOT TAKE THESE!!!!!!!!!!
Not saying they are bad bets, but the value of the 9ers to win the division should be close to even and the value of the Texans should be AT LEAST +400. Look around.
49ers at -205 and Texans at +295 are AWFUL prices DO NOT TAKE THESE!!!!!!!!!!
Not saying they are bad bets, but the value of the 9ers to win the division should be close to even and the value of the Texans should be AT LEAST +400. Look around.
I dont mean any offence to anyone here but the odds some of you are willing to accept are unbelievable,
here are the best prices I can find for the futures in the first post,
Falcons Over 9 wins +100 (-130)
Colts Under 11 wins -110 (-130)
Redskins Over 7.5 wins +110 (+100)
49ers to win division +110 (-205 surely a mistake)
Falcons to win division +225 (+145)
Texans to win division +400 (+295)
Even if you cant get on with every bookmaker (who can?) at least shop around and check you are getting something approaching best price.
I couldn't possibly agree more with your first point. In my opinion, this is the biggest problem that most covers members face. They are willing to take the team they think will win REGARDLESS of price. People who win betting on sports look at these bets more like an investment, rather then a guess on who you think wins.
I compare it to playing the stock market. There might be a company you really want to invest in, but you should only be doing this if the price is right. If the value of a stock is $5, are you willing to buy it at $7? The answer should be no.
If you think a team has a 60% chance to win (whether it is a game, or division or whatever) are you going to take them at -200? The correct answer is ABSOLUTELY not. If you think a team has a 60% chance to win, you should only be taking them at -150 or better.
People need to start betting not just on who they think wins the game, but on who they think wins RELATIVE to the prices they are getting. I stopped betting my opinion on who I "think" wins the game a couple months ago and have been doing better ever since. I know most people won't understand this but hopefully some can.
I dont mean any offence to anyone here but the odds some of you are willing to accept are unbelievable,
here are the best prices I can find for the futures in the first post,
Falcons Over 9 wins +100 (-130)
Colts Under 11 wins -110 (-130)
Redskins Over 7.5 wins +110 (+100)
49ers to win division +110 (-205 surely a mistake)
Falcons to win division +225 (+145)
Texans to win division +400 (+295)
Even if you cant get on with every bookmaker (who can?) at least shop around and check you are getting something approaching best price.
I couldn't possibly agree more with your first point. In my opinion, this is the biggest problem that most covers members face. They are willing to take the team they think will win REGARDLESS of price. People who win betting on sports look at these bets more like an investment, rather then a guess on who you think wins.
I compare it to playing the stock market. There might be a company you really want to invest in, but you should only be doing this if the price is right. If the value of a stock is $5, are you willing to buy it at $7? The answer should be no.
If you think a team has a 60% chance to win (whether it is a game, or division or whatever) are you going to take them at -200? The correct answer is ABSOLUTELY not. If you think a team has a 60% chance to win, you should only be taking them at -150 or better.
People need to start betting not just on who they think wins the game, but on who they think wins RELATIVE to the prices they are getting. I stopped betting my opinion on who I "think" wins the game a couple months ago and have been doing better ever since. I know most people won't understand this but hopefully some can.
I couldn't possibly agree more with your first point. In my opinion, this is the biggest problem that most covers members face. They are willing to take the team they think will win REGARDLESS of price. People who win betting on sports look at these bets more like an investment, rather then a guess on who you think wins.
I compare it to playing the stock market. There might be a company you really want to invest in, but you should only be doing this if the price is right. If the value of a stock is $5, are you willing to buy it at $7? The answer should be no.
If you think a team has a 60% chance to win (whether it is a game, or division or whatever) are you going to take them at -200? The correct answer is ABSOLUTELY not. If you think a team has a 60% chance to win, you should only be taking them at -150 or better.
People need to start betting not just on who they think wins the game, but on who they think wins RELATIVE to the prices they are getting. I stopped betting my opinion on who I "think" wins the game a couple months ago and have been doing better ever since. I know most people won't understand this but hopefully some can.
I couldn't possibly agree more with your first point. In my opinion, this is the biggest problem that most covers members face. They are willing to take the team they think will win REGARDLESS of price. People who win betting on sports look at these bets more like an investment, rather then a guess on who you think wins.
I compare it to playing the stock market. There might be a company you really want to invest in, but you should only be doing this if the price is right. If the value of a stock is $5, are you willing to buy it at $7? The answer should be no.
If you think a team has a 60% chance to win (whether it is a game, or division or whatever) are you going to take them at -200? The correct answer is ABSOLUTELY not. If you think a team has a 60% chance to win, you should only be taking them at -150 or better.
People need to start betting not just on who they think wins the game, but on who they think wins RELATIVE to the prices they are getting. I stopped betting my opinion on who I "think" wins the game a couple months ago and have been doing better ever since. I know most people won't understand this but hopefully some can.
I couldn't possibly agree more with your first point. In my opinion, this is the biggest problem that most covers members face. They are willing to take the team they think will win REGARDLESS of price. People who win betting on sports look at these bets more like an investment, rather then a guess on who you think wins.
I compare it to playing the stock market. There might be a company you really want to invest in, but you should only be doing this if the price is right. If the value of a stock is $5, are you willing to buy it at $7? The answer should be no.
If you think a team has a 60% chance to win (whether it is a game, or division or whatever) are you going to take them at -200? The correct answer is ABSOLUTELY not. If you think a team has a 60% chance to win, you should only be taking them at -150 or better.
People need to start betting not just on who they think wins the game, but on who they think wins RELATIVE to the prices they are getting. I stopped betting my opinion on who I "think" wins the game a couple months ago and have been doing better ever since. I know most people won't understand this but hopefully some can.
I understand exactly what you are saying but the fact is not all sportsbooks pay out when you win. The reason you see great prices at some places is because they are or could be shady. I could list a dozen books that are shady but I will let you make your own decisions. Take a look at sportsbookreview.com for the recommended sportsbooks & the poor or blacklisted books.
Any way, we are here to win money & your intentions are well noted my friend, thank you!
I couldn't possibly agree more with your first point. In my opinion, this is the biggest problem that most covers members face. They are willing to take the team they think will win REGARDLESS of price. People who win betting on sports look at these bets more like an investment, rather then a guess on who you think wins.
I compare it to playing the stock market. There might be a company you really want to invest in, but you should only be doing this if the price is right. If the value of a stock is $5, are you willing to buy it at $7? The answer should be no.
If you think a team has a 60% chance to win (whether it is a game, or division or whatever) are you going to take them at -200? The correct answer is ABSOLUTELY not. If you think a team has a 60% chance to win, you should only be taking them at -150 or better.
People need to start betting not just on who they think wins the game, but on who they think wins RELATIVE to the prices they are getting. I stopped betting my opinion on who I "think" wins the game a couple months ago and have been doing better ever since. I know most people won't understand this but hopefully some can.
I understand exactly what you are saying but the fact is not all sportsbooks pay out when you win. The reason you see great prices at some places is because they are or could be shady. I could list a dozen books that are shady but I will let you make your own decisions. Take a look at sportsbookreview.com for the recommended sportsbooks & the poor or blacklisted books.
Any way, we are here to win money & your intentions are well noted my friend, thank you!
The Saints will not be as lucky with turnovers on defense as they were last season & you're right, a different winner since 2002, anyone correct us if we are wrong, Falcons to the bank!
You can give me +1000 for the Falcons to win the NFC South and it wouldn't matter.
The Saints will not be as lucky with turnovers on defense as they were last season & you're right, a different winner since 2002, anyone correct us if we are wrong, Falcons to the bank!
You can give me +1000 for the Falcons to win the NFC South and it wouldn't matter.
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