He's a winner. But he's not in that elite group. Seattle's strengths come from their D, power running game, and home field advantage.
I can put many good but not elite qbs in Wilson's place and Seattle would be a contender. luck, Big Ben, flacco, Ryan, rivers. But if you put Wilson as QB on Baltimore, Atlanta, San D, those teams wouldn't be significantly better.
Elite is for the top few guys that would make any team much better than if the teams were without them.
Winning is a team concept but "elite" is an individual concept. Also, "elite" is also used by ESPN to fill air time after each Super Bowl because they have nothing of value to talk about on a daily basis. Few years ago they used it to describe flacco and Eli.
He's a winner. But he's not in that elite group. Seattle's strengths come from their D, power running game, and home field advantage.
I can put many good but not elite qbs in Wilson's place and Seattle would be a contender. luck, Big Ben, flacco, Ryan, rivers. But if you put Wilson as QB on Baltimore, Atlanta, San D, those teams wouldn't be significantly better.
Elite is for the top few guys that would make any team much better than if the teams were without them.
Winning is a team concept but "elite" is an individual concept. Also, "elite" is also used by ESPN to fill air time after each Super Bowl because they have nothing of value to talk about on a daily basis. Few years ago they used it to describe flacco and Eli.
When you consider Russell Wilson's decision making, ability to extend a play with an average offensive line and receivers as well as his big play making ability you have an incredible QB at 5' 11 and 75th overall pick. Incredible talent hope he gets his big fat contract because it's well deserved!
When you consider Russell Wilson's decision making, ability to extend a play with an average offensive line and receivers as well as his big play making ability you have an incredible QB at 5' 11 and 75th overall pick. Incredible talent hope he gets his big fat contract because it's well deserved!
I don't know about the whole elite word but what I do know is he's a straight baller,shot caller,gamer,stud,born winner and cooler than the other side of pillow. All that equals SB champion
I don't know about the whole elite word but what I do know is he's a straight baller,shot caller,gamer,stud,born winner and cooler than the other side of pillow. All that equals SB champion
Calling him a dilfer is ridiculous. Also " game mgr" and "playmaker" r not mutually exclusive concepts. Whether u like it or not he is a game manager cuz he is not required to generate offense. I realize all great Qbs have bad games. I took it further and said there have been several games I've seen over the years when he appeared lost. Go back and watch the cowboy game. He is a very good qb based on his smarts and es capability. He is not yet elite as if u needed a qb to generate a gw drive would much rather have manning Roger's brady or even Romo. Again, yall r underestimating the Seattle d. Did u see what they did to philly. Over a two yr period this is the most dominating defense I've ever seen (goes back to 60s) and it just makes it that much easier to play qb. Look at last yrs sf champ game. He did make 2 big escape plays but other than that his perf was relatively ordinary and, more importantly, had several chances to put the game away but couldn't.
Calling him a dilfer is ridiculous. Also " game mgr" and "playmaker" r not mutually exclusive concepts. Whether u like it or not he is a game manager cuz he is not required to generate offense. I realize all great Qbs have bad games. I took it further and said there have been several games I've seen over the years when he appeared lost. Go back and watch the cowboy game. He is a very good qb based on his smarts and es capability. He is not yet elite as if u needed a qb to generate a gw drive would much rather have manning Roger's brady or even Romo. Again, yall r underestimating the Seattle d. Did u see what they did to philly. Over a two yr period this is the most dominating defense I've ever seen (goes back to 60s) and it just makes it that much easier to play qb. Look at last yrs sf champ game. He did make 2 big escape plays but other than that his perf was relatively ordinary and, more importantly, had several chances to put the game away but couldn't.
The dude is freaking raw! At no point do I feel they are ever out of a game with him behind center and ive lived through a lot of bad seasons! This dude has the it factor and is a winner! I wouldnt trade him in for any of the so called elite QB 's! #LOB#GOHAWKS The offense and defense on this team feed off eachother in fact this whole team plays for eachother its just a different feeling I have as a Seattle fan than ive ever experienced Lynch Wilson Sherman all the way down to Alvin Bailey these guys all play well together!
The dude is freaking raw! At no point do I feel they are ever out of a game with him behind center and ive lived through a lot of bad seasons! This dude has the it factor and is a winner! I wouldnt trade him in for any of the so called elite QB 's! #LOB#GOHAWKS The offense and defense on this team feed off eachother in fact this whole team plays for eachother its just a different feeling I have as a Seattle fan than ive ever experienced Lynch Wilson Sherman all the way down to Alvin Bailey these guys all play well together!
When he runs that naked boot and comes face to face with a big DE, not only does he make them miss every time but he makes them look bad each time too.
I hope someday Seattle does not have the D they do now and we get to see the whole package. It seems though once you are labeled it is hard to get out of that rut. Look at Ben this year, although I am not a fan I will say he has had an elite year but not a peep from anyone about it. He is still seen as the big rookie, managing the game with that great D.
When he runs that naked boot and comes face to face with a big DE, not only does he make them miss every time but he makes them look bad each time too.
I hope someday Seattle does not have the D they do now and we get to see the whole package. It seems though once you are labeled it is hard to get out of that rut. Look at Ben this year, although I am not a fan I will say he has had an elite year but not a peep from anyone about it. He is still seen as the big rookie, managing the game with that great D.
Your average Joe Fan doesn't understand the concept of team because they never played on one and root for these me guys like Manning and Brees who are complete stat person that just put #'s and will keep throwing TD passes on complete inept teams and show no mercy but when confronted by #LOB they get what they deserve! Seattle is the modern day Robin Hood.......stealing from the rich and giving back to the poor! #GOHAWKS waited my whole life for a squad like this from Seattle! All starts and ends with RW3
Your average Joe Fan doesn't understand the concept of team because they never played on one and root for these me guys like Manning and Brees who are complete stat person that just put #'s and will keep throwing TD passes on complete inept teams and show no mercy but when confronted by #LOB they get what they deserve! Seattle is the modern day Robin Hood.......stealing from the rich and giving back to the poor! #GOHAWKS waited my whole life for a squad like this from Seattle! All starts and ends with RW3
Wilson is the man! Case closed. Ive been slobbing his knob since he made me crazy money at Wisconsin a few years back.
If I owned an NFL expansion team and that 1st year for some reason I had to choose between Wilson or Rodgers to start my franchise.....I would probably take A-Rod, but that's about the only guy I can think of over Wilson right now.
Wilson is the man! Case closed. Ive been slobbing his knob since he made me crazy money at Wisconsin a few years back.
If I owned an NFL expansion team and that 1st year for some reason I had to choose between Wilson or Rodgers to start my franchise.....I would probably take A-Rod, but that's about the only guy I can think of over Wilson right now.
I'm a big wilson fan and think he's an excellent game mgr. saying he's an elite qb however seems a stretch at this point I've seen several games where he appeared lost (Dallas and either Carolina or KC) p eople r losing sight of just how dominating that defense is and then by extension how much easier it is play qb when u dont have to generate offense.
Elite QBs have bad games and get "lost" too. This year Brady: At KC, 14-23, 159 yards 1td/2int Manning: Buffalo, 14-20, 173 yards 0/2 Rodgers: Buffalo, 17-42, 185, 0/2 Also Flacco not elite but he is superbowl mvp and he was 3-18 at one point yesterday. I also remember throwing 5 int in a game on Thanksgiving. It happens to the best of them. He's elite because he is smart, consistent and is extremely clutch making plays when it counts.
Finally , a post with someone with a brain. I am surprised how many post on this site without reading what they write. WELL DONE!!!!!!!
I'm a big wilson fan and think he's an excellent game mgr. saying he's an elite qb however seems a stretch at this point I've seen several games where he appeared lost (Dallas and either Carolina or KC) p eople r losing sight of just how dominating that defense is and then by extension how much easier it is play qb when u dont have to generate offense.
Elite QBs have bad games and get "lost" too. This year Brady: At KC, 14-23, 159 yards 1td/2int Manning: Buffalo, 14-20, 173 yards 0/2 Rodgers: Buffalo, 17-42, 185, 0/2 Also Flacco not elite but he is superbowl mvp and he was 3-18 at one point yesterday. I also remember throwing 5 int in a game on Thanksgiving. It happens to the best of them. He's elite because he is smart, consistent and is extremely clutch making plays when it counts.
Finally , a post with someone with a brain. I am surprised how many post on this site without reading what they write. WELL DONE!!!!!!!
I don't know about the whole elite word but what I do know is he's a straight baller,shot caller,gamer,stud,born winner and cooler than the other side of pillow. All that equals SB champion
I don't know about the whole elite word but what I do know is he's a straight baller,shot caller,gamer,stud,born winner and cooler than the other side of pillow. All that equals SB champion
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