Dr. John would, first and foremost, like to thank the liquor, for giving him the confidence to pull the trigger on a 5* wager on something as meaningless as the ASG. After the East covers, Dr. John will be up 10 units between the Rising Star Challenge [in which his model accurately predicted the spread (3.5)] & ASG (for documentation purposes, the model pegs this game at ~4.25 in favor of the Western Conference).
An additional thank you is extended to all his loyal students of the game and supporters -- it truly does mean a lot. And last, but not least, thank you to all ~75% of folks who put their hard earned $ on the West to cover -- if not for you guys, this inflated number would have never been available in the first place.
Dr. John would, first and foremost, like to thank the liquor, for giving him the confidence to pull the trigger on a 5* wager on something as meaningless as the ASG. After the East covers, Dr. John will be up 10 units between the Rising Star Challenge [in which his model accurately predicted the spread (3.5)] & ASG (for documentation purposes, the model pegs this game at ~4.25 in favor of the Western Conference).
An additional thank you is extended to all his loyal students of the game and supporters -- it truly does mean a lot. And last, but not least, thank you to all ~75% of folks who put their hard earned $ on the West to cover -- if not for you guys, this inflated number would have never been available in the first place.
wat possible maths model are you using to predict an all star game??....its a total un-known how much consistent effort is given by players,who gives more of a shiit and is more motivated,and how the minutes are going to be divided up between players by coaches.....plus with defense basically 100% non-existent(until it may get close in closing minutes) the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict.
also,with the style of this modern basketball and a total line of over 317 a spread of 3 possessions is clearly nowhere near as valuable as it wud be in a normal competitive game...it can be blown away in the blink of an eye by all kinds of sloppy play or quick run.
i guess we gotta take your word for your super-duper math model but it seems like a pile of horse-shiit to me as it pertains to a circus such as all star game.
i like the east but only on a hunch,just think they want it a bit more as east is bad-mouthed year after year and they know it and normally play with a bit of a chip.
wat possible maths model are you using to predict an all star game??....its a total un-known how much consistent effort is given by players,who gives more of a shiit and is more motivated,and how the minutes are going to be divided up between players by coaches.....plus with defense basically 100% non-existent(until it may get close in closing minutes) the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict.
also,with the style of this modern basketball and a total line of over 317 a spread of 3 possessions is clearly nowhere near as valuable as it wud be in a normal competitive game...it can be blown away in the blink of an eye by all kinds of sloppy play or quick run.
i guess we gotta take your word for your super-duper math model but it seems like a pile of horse-shiit to me as it pertains to a circus such as all star game.
i like the east but only on a hunch,just think they want it a bit more as east is bad-mouthed year after year and they know it and normally play with a bit of a chip.
wat possible maths model are you using to predict an all star game??....its a total un-known how much consistent effort is given by players,who gives more of a shiit and is more motivated,and how the minutes are going to be divided up between players by coaches.....plus with defense basically 100% non-existent(until it may get close in closing minutes) the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict.
also,with the style of this modern basketball and a total line of over 317 a spread of 3 possessions is clearly nowhere near as valuable as it wud be in a normal competitive game...it can be blown away in the blink of an eye by all kinds of sloppy play or quick run.
i guess we gotta take your word for your super-duper math model but it seems like a pile of horse-shiit to me as it pertains to a circus such as all star game.
i like the east but only on a hunch,just think they want it a bit more as east is bad-mouthed year after year and they know it and normally play with a bit of a chip.
my model has an assortment of explanatory variables, including individual metrics for each player; it is oriented around regression analysis with the program STATA, though that is not its sole component. refer to my "value with team world" thread if you'd like some further color. I projected the true line to be 3.5 and lo and behold, the game was decided by 3 points.
Now while I'm not purporting that I will have that same level of accuracy 2/2, I will maintain that the value (and a fair amount at that; I'll take ~1.75 pts of value any day of the week) is undoubtedly with the East here. Further, sharp $ concurs.
wat possible maths model are you using to predict an all star game??....its a total un-known how much consistent effort is given by players,who gives more of a shiit and is more motivated,and how the minutes are going to be divided up between players by coaches.....plus with defense basically 100% non-existent(until it may get close in closing minutes) the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict.
also,with the style of this modern basketball and a total line of over 317 a spread of 3 possessions is clearly nowhere near as valuable as it wud be in a normal competitive game...it can be blown away in the blink of an eye by all kinds of sloppy play or quick run.
i guess we gotta take your word for your super-duper math model but it seems like a pile of horse-shiit to me as it pertains to a circus such as all star game.
i like the east but only on a hunch,just think they want it a bit more as east is bad-mouthed year after year and they know it and normally play with a bit of a chip.
my model has an assortment of explanatory variables, including individual metrics for each player; it is oriented around regression analysis with the program STATA, though that is not its sole component. refer to my "value with team world" thread if you'd like some further color. I projected the true line to be 3.5 and lo and behold, the game was decided by 3 points.
Now while I'm not purporting that I will have that same level of accuracy 2/2, I will maintain that the value (and a fair amount at that; I'll take ~1.75 pts of value any day of the week) is undoubtedly with the East here. Further, sharp $ concurs.
wat possible maths model are you using to predict an all star game??....its a total un-known how much consistent effort is given by players,who gives more of a shiit and is more motivated,and how the minutes are going to be divided up between players by coaches.....plus with defense basically 100% non-existent(until it may get close in closing minutes) the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict.
also,with the style of this modern basketball and a total line of over 317 a spread of 3 possessions is clearly nowhere near as valuable as it wud be in a normal competitive game...it can be blown away in the blink of an eye by all kinds of sloppy play or quick run.
i guess we gotta take your word for your super-duper math model but it seems like a pile of horse-shiit to me as it pertains to a circus such as all star game.
i like the east but only on a hunch,just think they want it a bit more as east is bad-mouthed year after year and they know it and normally play with a bit of a chip.
The best assurance Dr. John can offer is that he may/may not print out your response as to use it to wipe his behind.
You have 0 grasp of applied statistics, virtually everything you say is rooted in fallacy. You may as well go play craps, as you've made clear your sentiments/lack of faith in being able to project the outcome of games with any accuracy whatsoever.
wat possible maths model are you using to predict an all star game??....its a total un-known how much consistent effort is given by players,who gives more of a shiit and is more motivated,and how the minutes are going to be divided up between players by coaches.....plus with defense basically 100% non-existent(until it may get close in closing minutes) the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict.
also,with the style of this modern basketball and a total line of over 317 a spread of 3 possessions is clearly nowhere near as valuable as it wud be in a normal competitive game...it can be blown away in the blink of an eye by all kinds of sloppy play or quick run.
i guess we gotta take your word for your super-duper math model but it seems like a pile of horse-shiit to me as it pertains to a circus such as all star game.
i like the east but only on a hunch,just think they want it a bit more as east is bad-mouthed year after year and they know it and normally play with a bit of a chip.
The best assurance Dr. John can offer is that he may/may not print out your response as to use it to wipe his behind.
You have 0 grasp of applied statistics, virtually everything you say is rooted in fallacy. You may as well go play craps, as you've made clear your sentiments/lack of faith in being able to project the outcome of games with any accuracy whatsoever.
The best assurance Dr. John can offer is that he may/may not print out your response as to use it to wipe his behind.
You have 0 grasp of applied statistics, virtually everything you say is rooted in fallacy. You may as well go play craps, as you've made clear your sentiments/lack of faith in being able to project the outcome of games with any accuracy whatsoever.
oh,well done..
way to not address any of the points that i made...how does your model account for a)players not giving 2 shiits about playing all out and motivated b)coaches dividing up the minutes any way they see fit c)even less defense being played than in normal nba ball....cos all these things are obviously hall-marks of all nba all star games.....get a friggin clue....if all the statistics you use for players/teams are based on regular season output then they dont apply as much here because of the spirit in which the game is played....its basically a question of who makes more open jumpers and lay-ups on the nite.
no-one gives a shiit if you get this one game right,it dont make your prediction valid,jeez talk about a small sample size.
now i imagine youre too childish to respond appropriately but if not then please explain how the things i mention are factored into any model because they are huge variables...in any handicapping prediction you want to think that the participants are going all out giving full effort so that their average results are likely to be replicated from all the other times they went all out.
The best assurance Dr. John can offer is that he may/may not print out your response as to use it to wipe his behind.
You have 0 grasp of applied statistics, virtually everything you say is rooted in fallacy. You may as well go play craps, as you've made clear your sentiments/lack of faith in being able to project the outcome of games with any accuracy whatsoever.
oh,well done..
way to not address any of the points that i made...how does your model account for a)players not giving 2 shiits about playing all out and motivated b)coaches dividing up the minutes any way they see fit c)even less defense being played than in normal nba ball....cos all these things are obviously hall-marks of all nba all star games.....get a friggin clue....if all the statistics you use for players/teams are based on regular season output then they dont apply as much here because of the spirit in which the game is played....its basically a question of who makes more open jumpers and lay-ups on the nite.
no-one gives a shiit if you get this one game right,it dont make your prediction valid,jeez talk about a small sample size.
now i imagine youre too childish to respond appropriately but if not then please explain how the things i mention are factored into any model because they are huge variables...in any handicapping prediction you want to think that the participants are going all out giving full effort so that their average results are likely to be replicated from all the other times they went all out.
The best assurance Dr. John can offer is that he may/may not print out your response as to use it to wipe his behind.
You have 0 grasp of applied statistics, virtually everything you say is rooted in fallacy. You may as well go play craps, as you've made clear your sentiments/lack of faith in being able to project the outcome of games with any accuracy whatsoever.
outcome of games???....we're not talking about the outcome of "games"..we're talking about the outcome of AN ALL-STAR GAME...do you not differentiate??
The best assurance Dr. John can offer is that he may/may not print out your response as to use it to wipe his behind.
You have 0 grasp of applied statistics, virtually everything you say is rooted in fallacy. You may as well go play craps, as you've made clear your sentiments/lack of faith in being able to project the outcome of games with any accuracy whatsoever.
outcome of games???....we're not talking about the outcome of "games"..we're talking about the outcome of AN ALL-STAR GAME...do you not differentiate??
outcome of games???....we're not talking about the outcome of "games"..we're talking about the outcome of AN ALL-STAR GAME...do you not differentiate??
Really? because you didn't also state "the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict." ? As if that's impossible to project.
Further, as far as effort level, I can tell you're not familiar with basic algebra. That being said, did it ever occur to you to eliminate this potential effect of the variable by oh...i don't know...say holding the variable constant??? 'Oh, geez, wow. What a profound idea Dr. John! Let me return to my knees now'.
You epitomize the word "dunce". If my model could predict the Rising Star game exactly spot on, I'm confident it can, at a minimum, be a fairly reliable indicator for which side to bet.
outcome of games???....we're not talking about the outcome of "games"..we're talking about the outcome of AN ALL-STAR GAME...do you not differentiate??
Really? because you didn't also state "the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict." ? As if that's impossible to project.
Further, as far as effort level, I can tell you're not familiar with basic algebra. That being said, did it ever occur to you to eliminate this potential effect of the variable by oh...i don't know...say holding the variable constant??? 'Oh, geez, wow. What a profound idea Dr. John! Let me return to my knees now'.
You epitomize the word "dunce". If my model could predict the Rising Star game exactly spot on, I'm confident it can, at a minimum, be a fairly reliable indicator for which side to bet.
outcome of games???....we're not talking about the outcome of "games"..we're talking about the outcome of AN ALL-STAR GAME...do you not differentiate??
Really? because you didn't also state "the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict." ? As if that's impossible to project.Further, as far as effort level, I can tell you're not familiar with basic algebra. That being said, did it ever occur to you to eliminate this potential effect of the variable by oh...i don't know...say holding the variable constant??? 'Oh, geez, wow. What a profound idea Dr. John! Let me return to my knees now'.You epitomize the word "dunce". If my model could predict the Rising Star game exactly spot on, I'm confident it can, at a minimum, be a fairly reliable indicator for which side to bet.
I have to politely agree with melossinglet here.
if you truly were using a model, it would project the West by much more than 4.25 points. This is quite easily the biggest disparity I have ever seen between the two conferences. Put it this way, the top 11 all-star game MVP favorites: Kobe, curry, Durant, Westbrook, lebron, harden, Thompson, Carmelo, Paul, cousins, Davis. That's right, 9 out of 11 are from the west. Now yes, I do recognise that their odds are shorter since they are on the likelier winning team, but that still speaks volumes.
And how can you possibly make the statement that having 1.75 points in your favour is good value? In a game with 310+ points being scored you would ideally like a couple more points to consider the bet good value.
Anyway good luck but I think all signs point to a western conference demolition. Without Lebron id predict west by 30.
outcome of games???....we're not talking about the outcome of "games"..we're talking about the outcome of AN ALL-STAR GAME...do you not differentiate??
Really? because you didn't also state "the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict." ? As if that's impossible to project.Further, as far as effort level, I can tell you're not familiar with basic algebra. That being said, did it ever occur to you to eliminate this potential effect of the variable by oh...i don't know...say holding the variable constant??? 'Oh, geez, wow. What a profound idea Dr. John! Let me return to my knees now'.You epitomize the word "dunce". If my model could predict the Rising Star game exactly spot on, I'm confident it can, at a minimum, be a fairly reliable indicator for which side to bet.
I have to politely agree with melossinglet here.
if you truly were using a model, it would project the West by much more than 4.25 points. This is quite easily the biggest disparity I have ever seen between the two conferences. Put it this way, the top 11 all-star game MVP favorites: Kobe, curry, Durant, Westbrook, lebron, harden, Thompson, Carmelo, Paul, cousins, Davis. That's right, 9 out of 11 are from the west. Now yes, I do recognise that their odds are shorter since they are on the likelier winning team, but that still speaks volumes.
And how can you possibly make the statement that having 1.75 points in your favour is good value? In a game with 310+ points being scored you would ideally like a couple more points to consider the bet good value.
Anyway good luck but I think all signs point to a western conference demolition. Without Lebron id predict west by 30.
Really? because you didn't also state "the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict." ? As if that's impossible to project.Further, as far as effort level, I can tell you're not familiar with basic algebra. That being said, did it ever occur to you to eliminate this potential effect of the variable by oh...i don't know...say holding the variable constant??? 'Oh, geez, wow. What a profound idea Dr. John! Let me return to my knees now'.You epitomize the word "dunce". If my model could predict the Rising Star game exactly spot on, I'm confident it can, at a minimum, be a fairly reliable indicator for which side to bet.
I have to politely agree with melossinglet here.
if you truly were using a model, it would project the West by much more than 4.25 points. This is quite easily the biggest disparity I have ever seen between the two conferences. Put it this way, the top 11 all-star game MVP favorites: Kobe, curry, Durant, Westbrook, lebron, harden, Thompson, Carmelo, Paul, cousins, Davis. That's right, 9 out of 11 are from the west. Now yes, I do recognise that their odds are shorter since they are on the likelier winning team, but that still speaks volumes.
And how can you possibly make the statement that having 1.75 points in your favour is good value? In a game with 310+ points being scored you would ideally like a couple more points to consider the bet good value.
Anyway good luck but I think all signs point to a western conference demolition. Without Lebron id predict west by 30.
I'd encourage you to bet the West then. That -6 pts they're hanging up their is a gift.
Oh and also, re: 9/11 of the mvl favorites being from the West. I'll give you a hint. Ok more than that. The MVP is chosen from the side that wins; the West is favored by 6. Boom.
Really? because you didn't also state "the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict." ? As if that's impossible to project.Further, as far as effort level, I can tell you're not familiar with basic algebra. That being said, did it ever occur to you to eliminate this potential effect of the variable by oh...i don't know...say holding the variable constant??? 'Oh, geez, wow. What a profound idea Dr. John! Let me return to my knees now'.You epitomize the word "dunce". If my model could predict the Rising Star game exactly spot on, I'm confident it can, at a minimum, be a fairly reliable indicator for which side to bet.
I have to politely agree with melossinglet here.
if you truly were using a model, it would project the West by much more than 4.25 points. This is quite easily the biggest disparity I have ever seen between the two conferences. Put it this way, the top 11 all-star game MVP favorites: Kobe, curry, Durant, Westbrook, lebron, harden, Thompson, Carmelo, Paul, cousins, Davis. That's right, 9 out of 11 are from the west. Now yes, I do recognise that their odds are shorter since they are on the likelier winning team, but that still speaks volumes.
And how can you possibly make the statement that having 1.75 points in your favour is good value? In a game with 310+ points being scored you would ideally like a couple more points to consider the bet good value.
Anyway good luck but I think all signs point to a western conference demolition. Without Lebron id predict west by 30.
I'd encourage you to bet the West then. That -6 pts they're hanging up their is a gift.
Oh and also, re: 9/11 of the mvl favorites being from the West. I'll give you a hint. Ok more than that. The MVP is chosen from the side that wins; the West is favored by 6. Boom.
I'd encourage you to bet the West then. That -6 pts they're hanging up their is a gift.
Oh and also, re: 9/11 of the mvl favorites being from the West. I'll give you a hint. Ok more than that. The MVP is chosen from the side that wins; the West is favored by 6. Boom.
Jesus. Dr. John is hungover like a sailor in Tortuga.
Meant to say there* and mvp*.
And upon review I see that you acknowledged the "shorter odds", why' you even make the statement then? You discredited your own attempt at a point.
I'd encourage you to bet the West then. That -6 pts they're hanging up their is a gift.
Oh and also, re: 9/11 of the mvl favorites being from the West. I'll give you a hint. Ok more than that. The MVP is chosen from the side that wins; the West is favored by 6. Boom.
Jesus. Dr. John is hungover like a sailor in Tortuga.
Meant to say there* and mvp*.
And upon review I see that you acknowledged the "shorter odds", why' you even make the statement then? You discredited your own attempt at a point.
Really? because you didn't also state "the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict." ? As if that's impossible to project.
Further, as far as effort level, I can tell you're not familiar with basic algebra. That being said, did it ever occur to you to eliminate this potential effect of the variable by oh...i don't know...say holding the variable constant??? 'Oh, geez, wow. What a profound idea Dr. John! Let me return to my knees now'.
You epitomize the word "dunce". If my model could predict the Rising Star game exactly spot on, I'm confident it can, at a minimum, be a fairly reliable indicator for which side to bet.
but thats exactly the point,dip-shiit...ya cant hold it as constant because different players come in with different motivations and we cant even guess at that....like westbrook for example was just on a fu.kken mission last year going all out to try and win the mvp....some guys just wanna rest up and go thru the motions when on court,some mite wanna show off their handles or range for shiits and giggles,some mite come out with a real chip on their shoulder and try and dominate the game,plus they are all at the whim of the coach who may have his own agenda even tho he wudnt admit it,and then you have the matter of chemistry for a whole bunch of guys who mostly dont play together........all-star games OBVIOUSLY have a different dimension entirely to a normal competitive encounter....have you even seen one of these things before??
and for such a mathematical brainiac you sure are putting a lot of stock in ONE single prediction when most wud perhaps consider maybe a slightly larger sample size...."oh,im incredible because i got the rising stars all star game right"
Really? because you didn't also state "the result is simply a matter of who knocks down most wide open shots and thats not sumthing ya can confidently predict." ? As if that's impossible to project.
Further, as far as effort level, I can tell you're not familiar with basic algebra. That being said, did it ever occur to you to eliminate this potential effect of the variable by oh...i don't know...say holding the variable constant??? 'Oh, geez, wow. What a profound idea Dr. John! Let me return to my knees now'.
You epitomize the word "dunce". If my model could predict the Rising Star game exactly spot on, I'm confident it can, at a minimum, be a fairly reliable indicator for which side to bet.
but thats exactly the point,dip-shiit...ya cant hold it as constant because different players come in with different motivations and we cant even guess at that....like westbrook for example was just on a fu.kken mission last year going all out to try and win the mvp....some guys just wanna rest up and go thru the motions when on court,some mite wanna show off their handles or range for shiits and giggles,some mite come out with a real chip on their shoulder and try and dominate the game,plus they are all at the whim of the coach who may have his own agenda even tho he wudnt admit it,and then you have the matter of chemistry for a whole bunch of guys who mostly dont play together........all-star games OBVIOUSLY have a different dimension entirely to a normal competitive encounter....have you even seen one of these things before??
and for such a mathematical brainiac you sure are putting a lot of stock in ONE single prediction when most wud perhaps consider maybe a slightly larger sample size...."oh,im incredible because i got the rising stars all star game right"
way to not address any of the points that i made...how does your model account for a)players not giving 2 shiits about playing all out and motivated b)coaches dividing up the minutes any way they see fit c)even less defense being played than in normal nba ball....cos all these things are obviously hall-marks of all nba all star games.....get a friggin clue....if all the statistics you use for players/teams are based on regular season output then they dont apply as much here because of the spirit in which the game is played....its basically a question of who makes more open jumpers and lay-ups on the nite.
no-one gives a shiit if you get this one game right,it dont make your prediction valid,jeez talk about a small sample size.
now i imagine youre too childish to respond appropriately but if not then please explain how the things i mention are factored into any model because they are huge variables...in any handicapping prediction you want to think that the participants are going all out giving full effort so that their average results are likely to be replicated from all the other times they went all out.
This idiot and his "system" on a ALL STAR GAME lmao... This guy talks a bunch of horse garbage that I can't even finish reading after I start... if he somehow hits on a 50/50 coin flip he will praise about his so call system on a a game no one has any clue over how mins are divided, effort and the variables you just mentioned.
way to not address any of the points that i made...how does your model account for a)players not giving 2 shiits about playing all out and motivated b)coaches dividing up the minutes any way they see fit c)even less defense being played than in normal nba ball....cos all these things are obviously hall-marks of all nba all star games.....get a friggin clue....if all the statistics you use for players/teams are based on regular season output then they dont apply as much here because of the spirit in which the game is played....its basically a question of who makes more open jumpers and lay-ups on the nite.
no-one gives a shiit if you get this one game right,it dont make your prediction valid,jeez talk about a small sample size.
now i imagine youre too childish to respond appropriately but if not then please explain how the things i mention are factored into any model because they are huge variables...in any handicapping prediction you want to think that the participants are going all out giving full effort so that their average results are likely to be replicated from all the other times they went all out.
This idiot and his "system" on a ALL STAR GAME lmao... This guy talks a bunch of horse garbage that I can't even finish reading after I start... if he somehow hits on a 50/50 coin flip he will praise about his so call system on a a game no one has any clue over how mins are divided, effort and the variables you just mentioned.
oh,well done..way to not address any of the points that i made...how does your model account for a)players not giving 2 shiits about playing all out and motivated b)coaches dividing up the minutes any way they see fit c)even less defense being played than in normal nba ball....cos all these things are obviously hall-marks of all nba all star games.....get a friggin clue....if all the statistics you use for players/teams are based on regular season output then they dont apply as much here because of the spirit in which the game is played....its basically a question of who makes more open jumpers and lay-ups on the nite.no-one gives a shiit if you get this one game right,it dont make your prediction valid,jeez talk about a small sample size.now i imagine youre too childish to respond appropriately but if not then please explain how the things i mention are factored into any model because they are huge variables...in any handicapping prediction you want to think that the participants are going all out giving full effort so that their average results are likely to be replicated from all the other times they went all out.
This idiot and his "system" on a ALL STAR GAME lmao... This guy talks a bunch of horse garbage that I can't even finish reading after I start... if he somehow hits on a 50/50 coin flip he will praise about his so call system on a a game no one has any clue over how mins are divided, effort and the variables you just mentioned.
Wait...so how was Dr. John able to project the absolute accurate point spread for the Rising Star Challenge?
As far as prediction is concerned, this game is highly similar to any other game played in the nba. You guys are just biased and it's plainly evident now.
oh,well done..way to not address any of the points that i made...how does your model account for a)players not giving 2 shiits about playing all out and motivated b)coaches dividing up the minutes any way they see fit c)even less defense being played than in normal nba ball....cos all these things are obviously hall-marks of all nba all star games.....get a friggin clue....if all the statistics you use for players/teams are based on regular season output then they dont apply as much here because of the spirit in which the game is played....its basically a question of who makes more open jumpers and lay-ups on the nite.no-one gives a shiit if you get this one game right,it dont make your prediction valid,jeez talk about a small sample size.now i imagine youre too childish to respond appropriately but if not then please explain how the things i mention are factored into any model because they are huge variables...in any handicapping prediction you want to think that the participants are going all out giving full effort so that their average results are likely to be replicated from all the other times they went all out.
This idiot and his "system" on a ALL STAR GAME lmao... This guy talks a bunch of horse garbage that I can't even finish reading after I start... if he somehow hits on a 50/50 coin flip he will praise about his so call system on a a game no one has any clue over how mins are divided, effort and the variables you just mentioned.
Wait...so how was Dr. John able to project the absolute accurate point spread for the Rising Star Challenge?
As far as prediction is concerned, this game is highly similar to any other game played in the nba. You guys are just biased and it's plainly evident now.
oh,well done..way to not address any of the points that i made...how does your model account for a)players not giving 2 shiits about playing all out and motivated b)coaches dividing up the minutes any way they see fit c)even less defense being played than in normal nba ball....cos all these things are obviously hall-marks of all nba all star games.....get a friggin clue....if all the statistics you use for players/teams are based on regular season output then they dont apply as much here because of the spirit in which the game is played....its basically a question of who makes more open jumpers and lay-ups on the nite.no-one gives a shiit if you get this one game right,it dont make your prediction valid,jeez talk about a small sample size.now i imagine youre too childish to respond appropriately but if not then please explain how the things i mention are factored into any model because they are huge variables...in any handicapping prediction you want to think that the participants are going all out giving full effort so that their average results are likely to be replicated from all the other times they went all out.
This idiot and his "system" on a ALL STAR GAME lmao... This guy talks a bunch of horse garbage that I can't even finish reading after I start... if he somehow hits on a 50/50 coin flip he will praise about his so call system on a a game no one has any clue over how mins are divided, effort and the variables you just mentioned.
Wait...so how was Dr. John able to project the absolute accurate point spread for the Rising Star Challenge?
As far as prediction is concerned, this game is highly similar to any other game played in the nba. You guys are just biased and it's plainly evident now.
oh,well done..way to not address any of the points that i made...how does your model account for a)players not giving 2 shiits about playing all out and motivated b)coaches dividing up the minutes any way they see fit c)even less defense being played than in normal nba ball....cos all these things are obviously hall-marks of all nba all star games.....get a friggin clue....if all the statistics you use for players/teams are based on regular season output then they dont apply as much here because of the spirit in which the game is played....its basically a question of who makes more open jumpers and lay-ups on the nite.no-one gives a shiit if you get this one game right,it dont make your prediction valid,jeez talk about a small sample size.now i imagine youre too childish to respond appropriately but if not then please explain how the things i mention are factored into any model because they are huge variables...in any handicapping prediction you want to think that the participants are going all out giving full effort so that their average results are likely to be replicated from all the other times they went all out.
This idiot and his "system" on a ALL STAR GAME lmao... This guy talks a bunch of horse garbage that I can't even finish reading after I start... if he somehow hits on a 50/50 coin flip he will praise about his so call system on a a game no one has any clue over how mins are divided, effort and the variables you just mentioned.
Wait...so how was Dr. John able to project the absolute accurate point spread for the Rising Star Challenge?
As far as prediction is concerned, this game is highly similar to any other game played in the nba. You guys are just biased and it's plainly evident now.
This idiot and his "system" on a ALL STAR GAME lmao... This guy talks a bunch of horse garbage that I can't even finish reading after I start... if he somehow hits on a 50/50 coin flip he will praise about his so call system on a a game no one has any clue over how mins are divided, effort and the variables you just mentioned. Wait...so how was Dr. John able to project the absolute accurate point spread for the Rising Star Challenge?
As far as prediction is concerned, this game is highly similar to any other game played in the nba. You guys are just biased and it's plainly evident now.
.....its ONE game that you predicted....good grief,get over it...when youve accurately predicted 60% of 25 all star game spreads then get back to us.
how is it similar??look strait above and you will see several reasons why it definitely isnt similar...anyone born with a pair of feckin eyes can see after about 30 seconds of any all star game that it AINT the same as a normal competitive game...its an EXHIBITION to promote the game....its akin to predicting pre-season events,only worse.
This idiot and his "system" on a ALL STAR GAME lmao... This guy talks a bunch of horse garbage that I can't even finish reading after I start... if he somehow hits on a 50/50 coin flip he will praise about his so call system on a a game no one has any clue over how mins are divided, effort and the variables you just mentioned. Wait...so how was Dr. John able to project the absolute accurate point spread for the Rising Star Challenge?
As far as prediction is concerned, this game is highly similar to any other game played in the nba. You guys are just biased and it's plainly evident now.
.....its ONE game that you predicted....good grief,get over it...when youve accurately predicted 60% of 25 all star game spreads then get back to us.
how is it similar??look strait above and you will see several reasons why it definitely isnt similar...anyone born with a pair of feckin eyes can see after about 30 seconds of any all star game that it AINT the same as a normal competitive game...its an EXHIBITION to promote the game....its akin to predicting pre-season events,only worse.
.....its ONE game that you predicted....good grief,get over it...when youve accurately predicted 60% of 25 all star game spreads then get back to us.
how is it similar??look strait above and you will see several reasons why it definitely isnt similar...anyone born with a pair of feckin eyes can see after about 30 seconds of any all star game that it AINT the same as a normal competitive game...its an EXHIBITION to promote the game....its akin to predicting pre-season events,only worse.
With any luck, Dr. John won't be around and kicking 25 years from now.
How is the Risings Stars game not similar to the ASG in the sense that they are both total exhibitions that lack defense? I've mentioned multiple times that 1/1 is an extremely small sample size; however, out of 1 game, one can't do any better.
Anyway, take West with the chalk, no skin of Dr. John's nose.
.....its ONE game that you predicted....good grief,get over it...when youve accurately predicted 60% of 25 all star game spreads then get back to us.
how is it similar??look strait above and you will see several reasons why it definitely isnt similar...anyone born with a pair of feckin eyes can see after about 30 seconds of any all star game that it AINT the same as a normal competitive game...its an EXHIBITION to promote the game....its akin to predicting pre-season events,only worse.
With any luck, Dr. John won't be around and kicking 25 years from now.
How is the Risings Stars game not similar to the ASG in the sense that they are both total exhibitions that lack defense? I've mentioned multiple times that 1/1 is an extremely small sample size; however, out of 1 game, one can't do any better.
Anyway, take West with the chalk, no skin of Dr. John's nose.
With a large majority of the cheddar pointing to the side of the "West", and corresponding line movement over the last few days, I will side with the bookmakers here. (Sort of like the Super Bowl, but not quite as grand of a scale!)
With a large majority of the cheddar pointing to the side of the "West", and corresponding line movement over the last few days, I will side with the bookmakers here. (Sort of like the Super Bowl, but not quite as grand of a scale!)
With any luck, Dr. John won't be around and kicking 25 years from now.
How is the Risings Stars game not similar to the ASG in the sense that they are both total exhibitions that lack defense? I've mentioned multiple times that 1/1 is an extremely small sample size; however, out of 1 game, one can't do any better.
Anyway, take West with the chalk, no skin of Dr. John's nose.
i definitely wont be taking the west minus those points but,like everyone else,my bet on the east will be more of a hunch and just for shits'n'giggles than anything else...there is NO way to accurately predict how your average all star event will play out....but generally taking free points in a game where points will be piled up easily and there is heaps of talent both sides is a good idea.
With any luck, Dr. John won't be around and kicking 25 years from now.
How is the Risings Stars game not similar to the ASG in the sense that they are both total exhibitions that lack defense? I've mentioned multiple times that 1/1 is an extremely small sample size; however, out of 1 game, one can't do any better.
Anyway, take West with the chalk, no skin of Dr. John's nose.
i definitely wont be taking the west minus those points but,like everyone else,my bet on the east will be more of a hunch and just for shits'n'giggles than anything else...there is NO way to accurately predict how your average all star event will play out....but generally taking free points in a game where points will be piled up easily and there is heaps of talent both sides is a good idea.
i definitely wont be taking the west minus those points but,like everyone else,my bet on the east will be more of a hunch and just for shits'n'giggles than anything else...there is NO way to accurately predict how your average all star event will play out....but generally taking free points in a game where points will be piled up easily and there is heaps of talent both sides is a good idea.
If you truly believe this, the value is on +200 ML.
i definitely wont be taking the west minus those points but,like everyone else,my bet on the east will be more of a hunch and just for shits'n'giggles than anything else...there is NO way to accurately predict how your average all star event will play out....but generally taking free points in a game where points will be piled up easily and there is heaps of talent both sides is a good idea.
If you truly believe this, the value is on +200 ML.
Not sure why there's all this hate on you dr. John. I've seen many of your posts cash out especially on the nfl boards. Good luck
Granted for this game I'm taking the under as well as the east, yes this is an exibition game, yes it doesn't make sense to wager on an all star game but hey money is money. Good luck all
Not sure why there's all this hate on you dr. John. I've seen many of your posts cash out especially on the nfl boards. Good luck
Granted for this game I'm taking the under as well as the east, yes this is an exibition game, yes it doesn't make sense to wager on an all star game but hey money is money. Good luck all
Not sure why there's all this hate on you dr. John. I've seen many of your posts cash out especially on the nfl boards. Good luck
Granted for this game I'm taking the under as well as the east, yes this is an exibition game, yes it doesn't make sense to wager on an all star game but hey money is money. Good luck all
Not sure why there's all this hate on you dr. John. I've seen many of your posts cash out especially on the nfl boards. Good luck
Granted for this game I'm taking the under as well as the east, yes this is an exibition game, yes it doesn't make sense to wager on an all star game but hey money is money. Good luck all
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