I listened to it many times. He can be saying many things there. Fucking kids maybe? Why do you have to ASSUME that it was person being said?
I listened to it many times. He can be saying many things there. Fucking kids maybe? Why do you have to ASSUME that it was person being said?
You haven't shit on any of the things that have came out of my mouth nor have you disproved any of it. You just keep spouting off the same OPINION about everything and not looking at te facts You still claim the man is white? Is he not hispanic now? Would it make you feel better that I was for the immigration law in Arizona? The guy who dies is usually the victim? So a man robs a convenience store and the clerk shoots him is still the victim? You're so narrow minded it's not even funny. All you do is come up with the same bullshit logic and you say it enough times where you think it's true.
You haven't shit on any of the things that have came out of my mouth nor have you disproved any of it. You just keep spouting off the same OPINION about everything and not looking at te facts You still claim the man is white? Is he not hispanic now? Would it make you feel better that I was for the immigration law in Arizona? The guy who dies is usually the victim? So a man robs a convenience store and the clerk shoots him is still the victim? You're so narrow minded it's not even funny. All you do is come up with the same bullshit logic and you say it enough times where you think it's true.
You haven't shit on any of the things that have came out of my mouth nor have you disproved any of it. You just keep spouting off the same OPINION about everything and not looking at te facts You still claim the man is white? Is he not hispanic now? Would it make you feel better that I was for the immigration law in Arizona? The guy who dies is usually the victim? So a man robs a convenience store and the clerk shoots him is still the victim? You're so narrow minded it's not even funny. All you do is come up with the same bullshit logic and you say it enough times where you think it's true.
You haven't shit on any of the things that have came out of my mouth nor have you disproved any of it. You just keep spouting off the same OPINION about everything and not looking at te facts You still claim the man is white? Is he not hispanic now? Would it make you feel better that I was for the immigration law in Arizona? The guy who dies is usually the victim? So a man robs a convenience store and the clerk shoots him is still the victim? You're so narrow minded it's not even funny. All you do is come up with the same bullshit logic and you say it enough times where you think it's true.
You haven't shit on any of the things that have came out of my mouth nor have you disproved any of it. You just keep spouting off the same OPINION about everything and not looking at te facts You still claim the man is white? Is he not hispanic now? Would it make you feel better that I was for the immigration law in Arizona? The guy who dies is usually the victim? So a man robs a convenience store and the clerk shoots him is still the victim? You're so narrow minded it's not even funny. All you do is come up with the same bullshit logic and you say it enough times where you think it's true.
You haven't shit on any of the things that have came out of my mouth nor have you disproved any of it. You just keep spouting off the same OPINION about everything and not looking at te facts You still claim the man is white? Is he not hispanic now? Would it make you feel better that I was for the immigration law in Arizona? The guy who dies is usually the victim? So a man robs a convenience store and the clerk shoots him is still the victim? You're so narrow minded it's not even funny. All you do is come up with the same bullshit logic and you say it enough times where you think it's true.
No shit I was going off your bullshit of the one who gets shot is usually the victim. So you made your mind up before any of the facts were even published.
And I'm just here defending the White guy that murdered a poor innocent black child.
Let's take account of all the bullshit you have said.
1. Zimmerman has a record----yep not true
2. Zimmerman is white---yep not true
3. Zimmerman looks like he didn't get in any fight and has no bruises or injuries-----yep can't tell from that video one bit, but might as well say it's a fact.
4. Trevyon got shot on public property---yep not public property
5. He approached the kid---How do you know that? He was following a suspicious person in his neighborhood which he patrols for the citizens of the neighborhood. Him and the witness say he was following him and trevyon was the one that initiated contact while he was going back to his SUV, but the poor innocent child(who is suspended from school and this incident would have never happened if he was in school), but might as well put it as fact that Zimmerman walked up to the kid and shot him for being black in his neighborhood.
6. The 911 dispatcher like I said they will tell you in any situation to not do anything but flee the scene.
7. The 911 tape have Zimmerman saying "we all know what", but nobody can confirm that so we will just take this as truth and say he said person instead of many other things that could have came after fucking.
No shit I was going off your bullshit of the one who gets shot is usually the victim. So you made your mind up before any of the facts were even published.
And I'm just here defending the White guy that murdered a poor innocent black child.
Let's take account of all the bullshit you have said.
1. Zimmerman has a record----yep not true
2. Zimmerman is white---yep not true
3. Zimmerman looks like he didn't get in any fight and has no bruises or injuries-----yep can't tell from that video one bit, but might as well say it's a fact.
4. Trevyon got shot on public property---yep not public property
5. He approached the kid---How do you know that? He was following a suspicious person in his neighborhood which he patrols for the citizens of the neighborhood. Him and the witness say he was following him and trevyon was the one that initiated contact while he was going back to his SUV, but the poor innocent child(who is suspended from school and this incident would have never happened if he was in school), but might as well put it as fact that Zimmerman walked up to the kid and shot him for being black in his neighborhood.
6. The 911 dispatcher like I said they will tell you in any situation to not do anything but flee the scene.
7. The 911 tape have Zimmerman saying "we all know what", but nobody can confirm that so we will just take this as truth and say he said person instead of many other things that could have came after fucking.
Atleast Scal comes up with thought provoking statements even if they aren't always true. All you decide to do is take a small tidbit to a story and twist the words around to make it your cause or you just simply call names and run away.
Atleast Scal comes up with thought provoking statements even if they aren't always true. All you decide to do is take a small tidbit to a story and twist the words around to make it your cause or you just simply call names and run away.
I'm a bit embarassed I spent the time to read through all 7 pages of this thread, but I did. And I'm not trying to minimize anyone's opinions, but from the opinion of a rational person who really doesn't have a vested interest in any of this, I'd sum this situation up like this:
1) The facts against Zimmerman don't look good. Noone was there, so noone knows for sure, but I have a tough time being able to justify deadly force being used in this situation. Whether he was provoked or not, at best, Martin's death was the result of a poor decision on Zimmerman's part, at worst, it was something more sinister. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves to be prosecuted, and spend a fair amount of time in jail. The laws may give Zimmerman the right to carry a gun, but I do not believe for a second they give him the right to provoke an altercation, and once he does so, fall back on the belief that when he faces resistance, that his use of deadly force will ultimately be justified.
2) The only reason this is a 7 page thread on Covers (and more importantly, splattered across the news) is because of the racial aspect. Individuals are killed every day in this country. And while Martin did not deserve to die by any means, it takes two to tango, and I don't think for one second Martin was just walking down the street and Zimmerman killed him in cold blood. Again, he did not deserve to die, but why is there not equal remorse for any of the other individuals who are killed? Where are the celebrities to stand up for the random person who is mugged and killed/carjacked and killed/etc. every day in this country? The fact that the media gets so up in arms about a situation where an African American was killed by a Caucasian (as we found out later he was truly Hispanic, but that fact wouldn't rile up the masses as much) should show the true agenda behind this.
3) You can't ignore the politics behind this. Presidential election year, in a swing state like Florida, the Democratic party taking such a strong stance on the issue. The President of the United States taking a position on this particular crime, without all of the facts coming to light. Outside of Trayvon Martin being an African American, why would he look like Barack Obama's son? Barack Obama actually has two daughters. Why does he not have the same sort of sympathy for Melissa Jenkins? Where is his sound bite for her? Is it not as heinous and a newsworthy of a crime in his mind because the victim, and the attackers were all Caucasian?
Honestly, the spin on this stuff is so basic, (on both sides) I just wish everyone could step outside of their own personal agendas and see this situation for what it really is
I'm a bit embarassed I spent the time to read through all 7 pages of this thread, but I did. And I'm not trying to minimize anyone's opinions, but from the opinion of a rational person who really doesn't have a vested interest in any of this, I'd sum this situation up like this:
1) The facts against Zimmerman don't look good. Noone was there, so noone knows for sure, but I have a tough time being able to justify deadly force being used in this situation. Whether he was provoked or not, at best, Martin's death was the result of a poor decision on Zimmerman's part, at worst, it was something more sinister. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves to be prosecuted, and spend a fair amount of time in jail. The laws may give Zimmerman the right to carry a gun, but I do not believe for a second they give him the right to provoke an altercation, and once he does so, fall back on the belief that when he faces resistance, that his use of deadly force will ultimately be justified.
2) The only reason this is a 7 page thread on Covers (and more importantly, splattered across the news) is because of the racial aspect. Individuals are killed every day in this country. And while Martin did not deserve to die by any means, it takes two to tango, and I don't think for one second Martin was just walking down the street and Zimmerman killed him in cold blood. Again, he did not deserve to die, but why is there not equal remorse for any of the other individuals who are killed? Where are the celebrities to stand up for the random person who is mugged and killed/carjacked and killed/etc. every day in this country? The fact that the media gets so up in arms about a situation where an African American was killed by a Caucasian (as we found out later he was truly Hispanic, but that fact wouldn't rile up the masses as much) should show the true agenda behind this.
3) You can't ignore the politics behind this. Presidential election year, in a swing state like Florida, the Democratic party taking such a strong stance on the issue. The President of the United States taking a position on this particular crime, without all of the facts coming to light. Outside of Trayvon Martin being an African American, why would he look like Barack Obama's son? Barack Obama actually has two daughters. Why does he not have the same sort of sympathy for Melissa Jenkins? Where is his sound bite for her? Is it not as heinous and a newsworthy of a crime in his mind because the victim, and the attackers were all Caucasian?
Honestly, the spin on this stuff is so basic, (on both sides) I just wish everyone could step outside of their own personal agendas and see this situation for what it really is
No shit I was going off your bullshit of the one who gets shot is usually the victim. So you made your mind up before any of the facts were even published.
And I'm just here defending the White guy that murdered a poor innocent black child.
Let's take account of all the bullshit you have said.
1. Zimmerman has a record----yep not true
2. Zimmerman is white---yep not true
3. Zimmerman looks like he didn't get in any fight and has no bruises or injuries-----yep can't tell from that video one bit, but might as well say it's a fact.
4. Trevyon got shot on public property---yep not public property
5. He approached the kid---How do you know that? He was following a suspicious person in his neighborhood which he patrols for the citizens of the neighborhood. Him and the witness say he was following him and trevyon was the one that initiated contact while he was going back to his SUV, but the poor innocent child(who is suspended from school and this incident would have never happened if he was in school), but might as well put it as fact that Zimmerman walked up to the kid and shot him for being black in his neighborhood.
6. The 911 dispatcher like I said they will tell you in any situation to not do anything but flee the scene.
7. The 911 tape have Zimmerman saying "we all know what", but nobody can confirm that so we will just take this as truth and say he said person instead of many other things that could have came after fucking.
No shit I was going off your bullshit of the one who gets shot is usually the victim. So you made your mind up before any of the facts were even published.
And I'm just here defending the White guy that murdered a poor innocent black child.
Let's take account of all the bullshit you have said.
1. Zimmerman has a record----yep not true
2. Zimmerman is white---yep not true
3. Zimmerman looks like he didn't get in any fight and has no bruises or injuries-----yep can't tell from that video one bit, but might as well say it's a fact.
4. Trevyon got shot on public property---yep not public property
5. He approached the kid---How do you know that? He was following a suspicious person in his neighborhood which he patrols for the citizens of the neighborhood. Him and the witness say he was following him and trevyon was the one that initiated contact while he was going back to his SUV, but the poor innocent child(who is suspended from school and this incident would have never happened if he was in school), but might as well put it as fact that Zimmerman walked up to the kid and shot him for being black in his neighborhood.
6. The 911 dispatcher like I said they will tell you in any situation to not do anything but flee the scene.
7. The 911 tape have Zimmerman saying "we all know what", but nobody can confirm that so we will just take this as truth and say he said person instead of many other things that could have came after fucking.
Wake was right above your post everyone has their own agenda here. Me like I said earlier could give two shits less about both of these people.IIt's not a race issue I grew up and hung out with every race and religion so really not an issue with me. I went through the Rodney King riots in a predominately black school without a problem.The gun issue again I don't care about I have never owned nor plan on owning a gun just doesn't bother me. I don't like how the media blew this shit sooo out of proportion that led to a group actually putting a "bounty" on someones head without him actually being found guilty of anything. So it pisses me off when people distort the facts to their own arguments. The man was never convicted of anything so to call him a felon is ludicrous.
The reason why I argued his case was because of shit like what happened to SuicideKings the man gets arrested for basically not wearing his god damn seatbelt, because he was to scared to tell the cops they can't search his vehicle. I think you even said awwww it would probably be easier to just let him search it if they were going to tow the car. I don't like the fact the media wants to give the police the obligation to arrest this man and throw him in jail without proper evidence to convict him. Once that starts happening people are just going to start submitting to anything, because the police can arrest you on a whim it's a bad situation. So the cops do something by the book here and not give into the media and even with the president of the U.S. chiming in until they have enough evidence to convict him I think is the right action for once.
Wake was right above your post everyone has their own agenda here. Me like I said earlier could give two shits less about both of these people.IIt's not a race issue I grew up and hung out with every race and religion so really not an issue with me. I went through the Rodney King riots in a predominately black school without a problem.The gun issue again I don't care about I have never owned nor plan on owning a gun just doesn't bother me. I don't like how the media blew this shit sooo out of proportion that led to a group actually putting a "bounty" on someones head without him actually being found guilty of anything. So it pisses me off when people distort the facts to their own arguments. The man was never convicted of anything so to call him a felon is ludicrous.
The reason why I argued his case was because of shit like what happened to SuicideKings the man gets arrested for basically not wearing his god damn seatbelt, because he was to scared to tell the cops they can't search his vehicle. I think you even said awwww it would probably be easier to just let him search it if they were going to tow the car. I don't like the fact the media wants to give the police the obligation to arrest this man and throw him in jail without proper evidence to convict him. Once that starts happening people are just going to start submitting to anything, because the police can arrest you on a whim it's a bad situation. So the cops do something by the book here and not give into the media and even with the president of the U.S. chiming in until they have enough evidence to convict him I think is the right action for once.
then theres this guy Earthwake in my threads defending Travon still and saying a posse should get Zimmerman
ignorance is plentiful in America
pot. kettle. black......................and go
then theres this guy Earthwake in my threads defending Travon still and saying a posse should get Zimmerman
ignorance is plentiful in America
pot. kettle. black......................and go
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