Few things:
1. These pilots are trained to stay calm. The beginning portion mentions how these guys showed little emotion or whatever. What do you think happens out there? You think they kill enemy personnel and then cry about it while flying around in their multi-million dollar Apache? When helicopters are shot down, you should hear how the pilots sound as they send a report that they are "going down." I show more emotion watching a ball game on my couch. These guys are trained professionals.
2. The Apache pilots have to request permission to shoot and only then can they engage. They send a report up to higher and based on the report the ground Commander received, he gave the authorization to engage. Yes, the idiot idiot had a camera and to the pilot about 2300 meters away, it looked like a weapon.
3. This wasnt some friendly suburban neighborhood. A historically hot area with military-aged males gathering together. That usually spells trouble. That, combined with the observation of small-armed weapons and RPG's led to this engagement.
4. Once enemy dudes are hit, they start gathering the bodies and what not. That is a prime target to take out the rest. The pilots thought that they were firing at enemy dudes who were wounded and trying to get away. Do you think when a pilot shoots a 30mm round at a dude, he is trying to hurt them and then take him prisoner? Every round fired is meant for death.
Not sure what the big deal about this video is. Civilians are sometimes killed on accident in war (on both sides). I'm still not certain that these dudes were innocent. Some Iraqi dude with a camera does not constitute a friendly. Read the paper, Afghan and Iraqi soldiers killed a shit-ton of US troops after turning on them.
Few things:
1. These pilots are trained to stay calm. The beginning portion mentions how these guys showed little emotion or whatever. What do you think happens out there? You think they kill enemy personnel and then cry about it while flying around in their multi-million dollar Apache? When helicopters are shot down, you should hear how the pilots sound as they send a report that they are "going down." I show more emotion watching a ball game on my couch. These guys are trained professionals.
2. The Apache pilots have to request permission to shoot and only then can they engage. They send a report up to higher and based on the report the ground Commander received, he gave the authorization to engage. Yes, the idiot idiot had a camera and to the pilot about 2300 meters away, it looked like a weapon.
3. This wasnt some friendly suburban neighborhood. A historically hot area with military-aged males gathering together. That usually spells trouble. That, combined with the observation of small-armed weapons and RPG's led to this engagement.
4. Once enemy dudes are hit, they start gathering the bodies and what not. That is a prime target to take out the rest. The pilots thought that they were firing at enemy dudes who were wounded and trying to get away. Do you think when a pilot shoots a 30mm round at a dude, he is trying to hurt them and then take him prisoner? Every round fired is meant for death.
Not sure what the big deal about this video is. Civilians are sometimes killed on accident in war (on both sides). I'm still not certain that these dudes were innocent. Some Iraqi dude with a camera does not constitute a friendly. Read the paper, Afghan and Iraqi soldiers killed a shit-ton of US troops after turning on them.
Few things:
1. These pilots are trained to stay calm. The beginning portion mentions how these guys showed little emotion or whatever. What do you think happens out there? You think they kill enemy personnel and then cry about it while flying around in their multi-million dollar Apache? When helicopters are shot down, you should hear how the pilots sound as they send a report that they are "going down." I show more emotion watching a ball game on my couch. These guys are trained professionals.
2. The Apache pilots have to request permission to shoot and only then can they engage. They send a report up to higher and based on the report the ground Commander received, he gave the authorization to engage. Yes, the idiot idiot had a camera and to the pilot about 2300 meters away, it looked like a weapon.
3. This wasnt some friendly suburban neighborhood. A historically hot area with military-aged males gathering together. That usually spells trouble. That, combined with the observation of small-armed weapons and RPG's led to this engagement.
4. Once enemy dudes are hit, they start gathering the bodies and what not. That is a prime target to take out the rest. The pilots thought that they were firing at enemy dudes who were wounded and trying to get away. Do you think when a pilot shoots a 30mm round at a dude, he is trying to hurt them and then take him prisoner? Every round fired is meant for death.
Not sure what the big deal about this video is. Civilians are sometimes killed on accident in war (on both sides). I'm still not certain that these dudes were innocent. Some Iraqi dude with a camera does not constitute a friendly. Read the paper, Afghan and Iraqi soldiers killed a shit-ton of US troops after turning on them.
Few things:
1. These pilots are trained to stay calm. The beginning portion mentions how these guys showed little emotion or whatever. What do you think happens out there? You think they kill enemy personnel and then cry about it while flying around in their multi-million dollar Apache? When helicopters are shot down, you should hear how the pilots sound as they send a report that they are "going down." I show more emotion watching a ball game on my couch. These guys are trained professionals.
2. The Apache pilots have to request permission to shoot and only then can they engage. They send a report up to higher and based on the report the ground Commander received, he gave the authorization to engage. Yes, the idiot idiot had a camera and to the pilot about 2300 meters away, it looked like a weapon.
3. This wasnt some friendly suburban neighborhood. A historically hot area with military-aged males gathering together. That usually spells trouble. That, combined with the observation of small-armed weapons and RPG's led to this engagement.
4. Once enemy dudes are hit, they start gathering the bodies and what not. That is a prime target to take out the rest. The pilots thought that they were firing at enemy dudes who were wounded and trying to get away. Do you think when a pilot shoots a 30mm round at a dude, he is trying to hurt them and then take him prisoner? Every round fired is meant for death.
Not sure what the big deal about this video is. Civilians are sometimes killed on accident in war (on both sides). I'm still not certain that these dudes were innocent. Some Iraqi dude with a camera does not constitute a friendly. Read the paper, Afghan and Iraqi soldiers killed a shit-ton of US troops after turning on them.
iraq did? not attack you
and your troops are the terrorists attacking third world countries for oil and hiding in choppers
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My guess would be that there is millions and millions of people that think like that ^. And videos like this don't help. The perception that it creates is terrible.
If we didn't attack Iraq for oil ... then why did we attack?
Did the US troops that died in Iraq even know what they died fighting for?
The tone in my post was that way because I'm simply fed up. After a single tour in Iraq and two in Afghanistan, I've gone above and beyond to get through to the people there and the overall success is very limited because both the Afghans and Iraqis are lazy and weak people.
Why did I call the camera guy an idiot? Simple. Because he is an absolute idiot. That's what happens when you chase insurgents around with a camera in the middle of a hot-bed neighborhood with Apache helicopters blantantly flying around in circles. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is an Iraqi. I spent hours in sporadic and scary firefights providing security for an American news anchor who was hit by an IED and was nearly killed (Woodruff).
I'm not going to be nice and pleasent because its the nice and pleasent thing to do. The people of Afghanistan (and I'll single them out because we are still there) are ungrateful, lazy sacks of shit for the most part. That being said, I see flares of potential with their Army and some civilians who have the brains to see that living without the Taliban is a good thing.
The tone in my post was that way because I'm simply fed up. After a single tour in Iraq and two in Afghanistan, I've gone above and beyond to get through to the people there and the overall success is very limited because both the Afghans and Iraqis are lazy and weak people.
Why did I call the camera guy an idiot? Simple. Because he is an absolute idiot. That's what happens when you chase insurgents around with a camera in the middle of a hot-bed neighborhood with Apache helicopters blantantly flying around in circles. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is an Iraqi. I spent hours in sporadic and scary firefights providing security for an American news anchor who was hit by an IED and was nearly killed (Woodruff).
I'm not going to be nice and pleasent because its the nice and pleasent thing to do. The people of Afghanistan (and I'll single them out because we are still there) are ungrateful, lazy sacks of shit for the most part. That being said, I see flares of potential with their Army and some civilians who have the brains to see that living without the Taliban is a good thing.
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iraq did? not attack you
and your troops are the terrorists attacking third world countries for oil and hiding in choppers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My guess would be that there is millions and millions of people that think like that ^. And videos like this don't help. The perception that it creates is terrible.
If we didn't attack Iraq for oil ... then why did we attack?
Did the US troops that died in Iraq even know what they died fighting for?