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    **Expect a VERY emotionally charged Skins team/crowd this week**

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    MarylandManson
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 3:36 PM ET #1

    For those of you that don't live near or are familiar with the Washington Redskins, this guy Sean Taylors death is reminiscent (sp?) to a country losing their president.  They absolutely adored this guy!  Fans, coaches, and players alike.  I would expect this to be the most emotionally amped game of the year at Fed Ex field.  I am neither a fan of the Skins, or G-men but I would proceed with caution if you're touching this game.

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    The late Sean Taylor will be inducted into the Redskins’ Ring of Fame at FedExField in a ceremony prior to the Redskins-New York Giants game on Nov. 30.

    Fans are encouraged to arrive early at FedExField for the pre-game ceremony starting at 12:30 p.m. ET. Kickoff is 1 p.m. ET.

    The entire Ring of Fame ceremony honoring Taylor will be broadcast LIVE on Redskins.com. Fans unable to attend the proceedings should go to Redskins.com at 12:30 p.m. to watch the ceremony as it unfolds at FedExField.

    It will be the Redskins’ first game following the anniversary of Taylor’s tragic death at the age of 24, which occurred on Nov. 27 of last year in Miami.

    “It’s appropriate that Sean joins our Ring of Fame after a stellar career cut short far too soon,” Redskins owner Daniel M. Snyder said.  “His life touched so many of us in such deep and lasting ways.  His presence is all around us, in our organization and among our fans.”

    Executive Vice President of Football Operations Vinny Cerrato added: “Sean was developing into one of the best to ever play the safety position, as well as becoming a role model to those who knew him.  He still touches us every day in some way on and off the field.”

    Taylor is the 43rd member admitted into the Ring of Fame, which honors those who have made distinguished contributions to the team.

    The ceremony will feature a tribute and messages from former teammates, as well as comments from Taylor's family and the presentation of commemorative plaques to members of Taylor's family after his memorial is added to the stadium wall.

    With his combination of size, speed, athleticism, ferocity and instincts, Taylor was one of the most unique and dynamic athletes the game has ever seen, despite playing less than four seasons.

    He was a two-time Pro Bowl selection after the Redskins made him the fifth pick of the 2004 NFL draft following an All-American career at the University of Miami.

     

     

    The late Sean Taylor will be inducted into the Redskins’ Ring of Fame at FedExField in a ceremony prior to the Redskins-New York Giants game on Nov. 30.

    Fans are encouraged to arrive early at FedExField for the pre-game ceremony starting at 12:30 p.m. ET. Kickoff is 1 p.m. ET.

    The entire Ring of Fame ceremony honoring Taylor will be broadcast LIVE on Redskins.com. Fans unable to attend the proceedings should go to Redskins.com at 12:30 p.m. to watch the ceremony as it unfolds at FedExField.

    It will be the Redskins’ first game following the anniversary of Taylor’s tragic death at the age of 24, which occurred on Nov. 27 of last year in Miami.

    “It’s appropriate that Sean joins our Ring of Fame after a stellar career cut short far too soon,” Redskins owner Daniel M. Snyder said.  “His life touched so many of us in such deep and lasting ways.  His presence is all around us, in our organization and among our fans.”

    Executive Vice President of Football Operations Vinny Cerrato added: “Sean was developing into one of the best to ever play the safety position, as well as becoming a role model to those who knew him.  He still touches us every day in some way on and off the field.”

    Taylor is the 43rd member admitted into the Ring of Fame, which honors those who have made distinguished contributions to the team.

    The ceremony will feature a tribute and messages from former teammates, as well as comments from Taylor's family and the presentation of commemorative plaques to members of Taylor's family after his memorial is added to the stadium wall.

    With his combination of size, speed, athleticism, ferocity and instincts, Taylor was one of the most unique and dynamic athletes the game has ever seen, despite playing less than four seasons.

    He was a two-time Pro Bowl selection after the Redskins made him the fifth pick of the 2004 NFL draft following an All-American career at the University of Miami.

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    For those of you that don't live near or are familiar with the Washington Redskins, this guy Sean Taylors death is reminiscent (sp?) to a country losing their president.  They absolutely adored this guy!  Fans, coaches, and players alike.  I would expect this to be the most emotionally amped game of the year at Fed Ex field.  I am neither a fan of the Skins, or G-men but I would proceed with caution if you're touching this game.

    ================================================

    The late Sean Taylor will be inducted into the Redskins’ Ring of Fame at FedExField in a ceremony prior to the Redskins-New York Giants game on Nov. 30.

    Fans are encouraged to arrive early at FedExField for the pre-game ceremony starting at 12:30 p.m. ET. Kickoff is 1 p.m. ET.

    The entire Ring of Fame ceremony honoring Taylor will be broadcast LIVE on Redskins.com. Fans unable to attend the proceedings should go to Redskins.com at 12:30 p.m. to watch the ceremony as it unfolds at FedExField.

    It will be the Redskins’ first game following the anniversary of Taylor’s tragic death at the age of 24, which occurred on Nov. 27 of last year in Miami.

    “It’s appropriate that Sean joins our Ring of Fame after a stellar career cut short far too soon,” Redskins owner Daniel M. Snyder said.  “His life touched so many of us in such deep and lasting ways.  His presence is all around us, in our organization and among our fans.”

    Executive Vice President of Football Operations Vinny Cerrato added: “Sean was developing into one of the best to ever play the safety position, as well as becoming a role model to those who knew him.  He still touches us every day in some way on and off the field.”

    Taylor is the 43rd member admitted into the Ring of Fame, which honors those who have made distinguished contributions to the team.

    The ceremony will feature a tribute and messages from former teammates, as well as comments from Taylor's family and the presentation of commemorative plaques to members of Taylor's family after his memorial is added to the stadium wall.

    With his combination of size, speed, athleticism, ferocity and instincts, Taylor was one of the most unique and dynamic athletes the game has ever seen, despite playing less than four seasons.

    He was a two-time Pro Bowl selection after the Redskins made him the fifth pick of the 2004 NFL draft following an All-American career at the University of Miami.

     

     

    The late Sean Taylor will be inducted into the Redskins’ Ring of Fame at FedExField in a ceremony prior to the Redskins-New York Giants game on Nov. 30.

    Fans are encouraged to arrive early at FedExField for the pre-game ceremony starting at 12:30 p.m. ET. Kickoff is 1 p.m. ET.

    The entire Ring of Fame ceremony honoring Taylor will be broadcast LIVE on Redskins.com. Fans unable to attend the proceedings should go to Redskins.com at 12:30 p.m. to watch the ceremony as it unfolds at FedExField.

    It will be the Redskins’ first game following the anniversary of Taylor’s tragic death at the age of 24, which occurred on Nov. 27 of last year in Miami.

    “It’s appropriate that Sean joins our Ring of Fame after a stellar career cut short far too soon,” Redskins owner Daniel M. Snyder said.  “His life touched so many of us in such deep and lasting ways.  His presence is all around us, in our organization and among our fans.”

    Executive Vice President of Football Operations Vinny Cerrato added: “Sean was developing into one of the best to ever play the safety position, as well as becoming a role model to those who knew him.  He still touches us every day in some way on and off the field.”

    Taylor is the 43rd member admitted into the Ring of Fame, which honors those who have made distinguished contributions to the team.

    The ceremony will feature a tribute and messages from former teammates, as well as comments from Taylor's family and the presentation of commemorative plaques to members of Taylor's family after his memorial is added to the stadium wall.

    With his combination of size, speed, athleticism, ferocity and instincts, Taylor was one of the most unique and dynamic athletes the game has ever seen, despite playing less than four seasons.

    He was a two-time Pro Bowl selection after the Redskins made him the fifth pick of the 2004 NFL draft following an All-American career at the University of Miami.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 3:38 PM ET #2

    Skins have covered the 2nd gmen game
    7 of last 9 and the home team has covered
    8 of last 11.
    Plus  3 1/2.
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    Skins have covered the 2nd gmen game
    7 of last 9 and the home team has covered
    8 of last 11.
    Plus  3 1/2.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 4:27 PM ET #3

    Seems like when there is a pre-game ceremony the home team loses.
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    Seems like when there is a pre-game ceremony the home team loses.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 4:27 PM ET #4

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    Seem to remember everyone (including myself) picking the skins to cover the game immediately following the death of Taylor.  The is no way they fail to cover the "in memory game" right?  Lost alot that day.  Not saying the same happens here, just my thoughts.  Not trying to belittle the ceremony in any way...it was a tragic event.
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    Seem to remember everyone (including myself) picking the skins to cover the game immediately following the death of Taylor.  The is no way they fail to cover the "in memory game" right?  Lost alot that day.  Not saying the same happens here, just my thoughts.  Not trying to belittle the ceremony in any way...it was a tragic event.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 7:38 PM ET #6

    Exactly why to take the Giants, every time there is a game that has specific meaning everyone jumps on them and they lose....
     
    Gmen -3 a gift
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    Exactly why to take the Giants, every time there is a game that has specific meaning everyone jumps on them and they lose....
     
    Gmen -3 a gift
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 8:58 PM ET #7

    I went to the U -much before Taylor , and while not a Skins fan, his death has seemed to will the team especially his buddy Portis to play like a gazaelle.
     
    Having said that, if they are missing London Fletcher , their on field leader now , the GMEN will take care of business 31-23.
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    I went to the U -much before Taylor , and while not a Skins fan, his death has seemed to will the team especially his buddy Portis to play like a gazaelle.
     
    Having said that, if they are missing London Fletcher , their on field leader now , the GMEN will take care of business 31-23.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 2:22 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by NoShowJones:

    Seem to remember everyone (including myself) picking the skins to cover the game immediately following the death of Taylor.  The is no way they fail to cover the "in memory game" right?  Lost alot that day.  Not saying the same happens here, just my thoughts.  Not trying to belittle the ceremony in any way...it was a tragic event.

     

    Yes, they did lose that first week..  I will say this though.  That week he had just passed and things were still very hectic. If I remember correctly they still didn't have the facts of the incident released yet and people were still in the dark about what happened.  They lost that game but the death was was still very fresh. He died 4 days before that game.  After that game which they only lost by 1 point Washington went on to go 4-0 the rest of the way and make the playoffs. 

     

     If you lost someone close to you and did a ceremony only 4 days after you'd still be reeling before, during, and after that ceremony. If you then did another ceremony a year later you could actually celebrate the life of the deceased with the ceremony rather than still be grieving. ITo me it's a big difference, but we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoShowJones:

    Seem to remember everyone (including myself) picking the skins to cover the game immediately following the death of Taylor.  The is no way they fail to cover the "in memory game" right?  Lost alot that day.  Not saying the same happens here, just my thoughts.  Not trying to belittle the ceremony in any way...it was a tragic event.

     

    Yes, they did lose that first week..  I will say this though.  That week he had just passed and things were still very hectic. If I remember correctly they still didn't have the facts of the incident released yet and people were still in the dark about what happened.  They lost that game but the death was was still very fresh. He died 4 days before that game.  After that game which they only lost by 1 point Washington went on to go 4-0 the rest of the way and make the playoffs. 

     

     If you lost someone close to you and did a ceremony only 4 days after you'd still be reeling before, during, and after that ceremony. If you then did another ceremony a year later you could actually celebrate the life of the deceased with the ceremony rather than still be grieving. ITo me it's a big difference, but we'll see.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 3:21 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Yavapai:

    Skins have covered the 2nd gmen game
    7 of last 9 and the home team has covered
    8 of last 11.
    Plus  3 1/2.

    Stats people come up with really are crazy.

    How relevant was it in 2004 when Tiki Barber was their premier running back? And Ike Hilliard and Jeremy Shockey were the premier recievers? And Manning was a rookie.

    Same thing in 2005.

    I can see your case for 2003 though. When Kerry Collins and Jesse Palmer lead the Giants to a loss and Tim Hasselbeck lead the Redskins to the victory in the Medowlands.

    Seriously...how can you relate this season to any other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yavapai:

    Skins have covered the 2nd gmen game
    7 of last 9 and the home team has covered
    8 of last 11.
    Plus  3 1/2.

    Stats people come up with really are crazy.

    How relevant was it in 2004 when Tiki Barber was their premier running back? And Ike Hilliard and Jeremy Shockey were the premier recievers? And Manning was a rookie.

    Same thing in 2005.

    I can see your case for 2003 though. When Kerry Collins and Jesse Palmer lead the Giants to a loss and Tim Hasselbeck lead the Redskins to the victory in the Medowlands.

    Seriously...how can you relate this season to any other?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 3:21 PM ET #10

    giants please, remember that game last year...when they had 10 men on the field on defense...that shit was so gay...and that play fuckd them up...i think they lost that game too? plax or no plax...he hasnt been doing shit anyway..london fletcher is also game time decision
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    giants please, remember that game last year...when they had 10 men on the field on defense...that shit was so gay...and that play fuckd them up...i think they lost that game too? plax or no plax...he hasnt been doing shit anyway..london fletcher is also game time decision
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:

    giants please, remember that game last year...when they had 10 men on the field on defense...that shit was so gay...and that play fuckd them up...i think they lost that game too? plax or no plax...he hasnt been doing shit anyway..london fletcher is also game time decision

    That was one of the greatest things I have ever seen. To respect Taylor like that. You really must not have a heart to believe that. Somethings are more important than winning a football game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usikbasterd:

    giants please, remember that game last year...when they had 10 men on the field on defense...that shit was so gay...and that play fuckd them up...i think they lost that game too? plax or no plax...he hasnt been doing shit anyway..london fletcher is also game time decision

    That was one of the greatest things I have ever seen. To respect Taylor like that. You really must not have a heart to believe that. Somethings are more important than winning a football game.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 3:52 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    That was one of the greatest things I have ever seen. To respect Taylor like that. You really must not have a heart to believe that. Somethings are more important than winning a football game.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    That was one of the greatest things I have ever seen. To respect Taylor like that. You really must not have a heart to believe that. Somethings are more important than winning a football game.



     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 8:11 PM ET #13

    FUCK now i may hedge some of my giants bet.
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    FUCK now i may hedge some of my giants bet.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 10:35 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by LizardKing23:

    FUCK now i may hedge some of my giants bet.

    Why? Special events like this does make a team play with more heart, but it doesn't give them more talent, and plain and simple, the Giants have more talent, hence they will win this game. But note, Jacobs IS playing, but Bradshaw is probably NOT playing. Showed how much that really mattered when Jacobs was out last week...and now they have the better 2(and thats saying somthing because Bradshaw is a beast). Giants win by at least 6 imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LizardKing23:

    FUCK now i may hedge some of my giants bet.

    Why? Special events like this does make a team play with more heart, but it doesn't give them more talent, and plain and simple, the Giants have more talent, hence they will win this game. But note, Jacobs IS playing, but Bradshaw is probably NOT playing. Showed how much that really mattered when Jacobs was out last week...and now they have the better 2(and thats saying somthing because Bradshaw is a beast). Giants win by at least 6 imo.

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