I don't know if the Rams or Jags lines are out of bounds. They're both hyped but unproven teams playing on the road in week 1. Lots of people will happily pounce on the home dog getting a FG or more in either case. The Giants have a fan base which dwarfs Jacksonville, and Oakland is always a favorite over the counter in Vegas.
What's strange to me is that the defending Super Bowl champs are now only -1.5 tomorrow night. This line opened early at 5.5 and 4.5 mainstream. We know who the Falcons are, but are we totally underestimating Philly at home, based on a poor pre- season?
Gimme some Philly @ -1.5 to go with the Jaguars @ -3.
i agree the rams are unproven with all of these new players they have. it might take a while for them to get going. but damn are the raiders a huge mess. i'm staying away from that one.
but that jaguars defense is basically the same as last season and it is going to be as good or even better unless something really strange happens. as for the offense, it'll have issues but no one is scared of this giants defense, especially without vernon. i'm not looking for 7 here but i was expecting at least 3.5.
I don't know if the Rams or Jags lines are out of bounds. They're both hyped but unproven teams playing on the road in week 1. Lots of people will happily pounce on the home dog getting a FG or more in either case. The Giants have a fan base which dwarfs Jacksonville, and Oakland is always a favorite over the counter in Vegas.
What's strange to me is that the defending Super Bowl champs are now only -1.5 tomorrow night. This line opened early at 5.5 and 4.5 mainstream. We know who the Falcons are, but are we totally underestimating Philly at home, based on a poor pre- season?
Gimme some Philly @ -1.5 to go with the Jaguars @ -3.
i agree the rams are unproven with all of these new players they have. it might take a while for them to get going. but damn are the raiders a huge mess. i'm staying away from that one.
but that jaguars defense is basically the same as last season and it is going to be as good or even better unless something really strange happens. as for the offense, it'll have issues but no one is scared of this giants defense, especially without vernon. i'm not looking for 7 here but i was expecting at least 3.5.
pretty ugly start to the season. the refs were way too involved with too many major penalties on chickenshit plays.
if atlanta had better coaching and playcalling, they win that game most of the time. i'm glad i stayed away.
i'll probably be hitting chicago at 7.5 shortly. looks like it's -115 to -120 in some places which means it may go to 7 soon. i need to get over my fear of betting against rodgers at home. this is one of those situations where the 7.5 underdog may turn out to be the better team this season. then again, i'm always skeptical of GB and optimistic about chicago.
pretty ugly start to the season. the refs were way too involved with too many major penalties on chickenshit plays.
if atlanta had better coaching and playcalling, they win that game most of the time. i'm glad i stayed away.
i'll probably be hitting chicago at 7.5 shortly. looks like it's -115 to -120 in some places which means it may go to 7 soon. i need to get over my fear of betting against rodgers at home. this is one of those situations where the 7.5 underdog may turn out to be the better team this season. then again, i'm always skeptical of GB and optimistic about chicago.
pretty ugly start to the season. the refs were way too involved with too many major penalties on chickenshit plays.
if atlanta had better coaching and playcalling, they win that game most of the time. i'm glad i stayed away.
i'll probably be hitting chicago at 7.5 shortly. looks like it's -115 to -120 in some places which means it may go to 7 soon. i need to get over my fear of betting against rodgers at home. this is one of those situations where the 7.5 underdog may turn out to be the better team this season. then again, i'm always skeptical of GB and optimistic about chicago.
I like it, key for da Bears will be how they handle Packs run game and when was last time Pack had a solid ground game? Bears air defense is pretty tight.
pretty ugly start to the season. the refs were way too involved with too many major penalties on chickenshit plays.
if atlanta had better coaching and playcalling, they win that game most of the time. i'm glad i stayed away.
i'll probably be hitting chicago at 7.5 shortly. looks like it's -115 to -120 in some places which means it may go to 7 soon. i need to get over my fear of betting against rodgers at home. this is one of those situations where the 7.5 underdog may turn out to be the better team this season. then again, i'm always skeptical of GB and optimistic about chicago.
I like it, key for da Bears will be how they handle Packs run game and when was last time Pack had a solid ground game? Bears air defense is pretty tight.
Vikings-6 1/2--I mistakenly thought they were the best team in the NFL last season, but they certainly seem close this year with a probable upgrade at the quarterback position. Coach is first-rate and they are really tough at home.
I'm also waiting to see if I can get the Jaguars at less than 3. It is at 3 with even money if you take the Jags now so I'd like to see if it goes down. If it doesn't, I'll still play the Jaguars. For me, it is a matter of a much better team playing against one with many question marks. The Giants will be better this year I think, if for no other reason than they got rid of a real loser as their coach. I also think Coughlin would like to rub the Giants nose in the dirt in returning to NY.
I'd like to play the Browns but I won't until they blow enough winnable games to get the coach fired. I don't think I've ever seen a dopier game coach. As Club's Thursday night experiment of coach versus coach seemed to confirm last year, good coaching is, at times, not insufficiently considered in establishing lines.
Best of luck for a profitable season to each and every member of the ClubDirt team.
Vikings-6 1/2--I mistakenly thought they were the best team in the NFL last season, but they certainly seem close this year with a probable upgrade at the quarterback position. Coach is first-rate and they are really tough at home.
I'm also waiting to see if I can get the Jaguars at less than 3. It is at 3 with even money if you take the Jags now so I'd like to see if it goes down. If it doesn't, I'll still play the Jaguars. For me, it is a matter of a much better team playing against one with many question marks. The Giants will be better this year I think, if for no other reason than they got rid of a real loser as their coach. I also think Coughlin would like to rub the Giants nose in the dirt in returning to NY.
I'd like to play the Browns but I won't until they blow enough winnable games to get the coach fired. I don't think I've ever seen a dopier game coach. As Club's Thursday night experiment of coach versus coach seemed to confirm last year, good coaching is, at times, not insufficiently considered in establishing lines.
Best of luck for a profitable season to each and every member of the ClubDirt team.
here's where i am right now. some of these lines are gone, but i mentioned cincy and chicago earlier when those lines appeared to be on the way down. i had to pay more than -110 for a couple of these but i never pay more than -120.
Cincy +3
Dallas +3 (i didn't like this at first but carolina's OL injuries and i saw that olsen is questionable and vanzacksports likes it. you should be able to get this now between 1.15 and 1.20 but not for long is my guess)
Chicago +7.5
NYJ +6.5
i need some help with this cleveland game. i think betting a side is out but i was toying with the over earlier. i see that it's down to 41 and i know it's because of the weather. rain doesn't bother me but constant heavy downpour + serious wind does. these teams should easily beat 41 points if it's not too bad. BWS or anyone else unfortunate enough to live in the cleveland area, any insight on the weather between now and gametime??
here's where i am right now. some of these lines are gone, but i mentioned cincy and chicago earlier when those lines appeared to be on the way down. i had to pay more than -110 for a couple of these but i never pay more than -120.
Cincy +3
Dallas +3 (i didn't like this at first but carolina's OL injuries and i saw that olsen is questionable and vanzacksports likes it. you should be able to get this now between 1.15 and 1.20 but not for long is my guess)
Chicago +7.5
NYJ +6.5
i need some help with this cleveland game. i think betting a side is out but i was toying with the over earlier. i see that it's down to 41 and i know it's because of the weather. rain doesn't bother me but constant heavy downpour + serious wind does. these teams should easily beat 41 points if it's not too bad. BWS or anyone else unfortunate enough to live in the cleveland area, any insight on the weather between now and gametime??
First Energy Field has underground heating but still uses natural Bluegrass which doesn't hold up to rain as well as a synthetic surface. It will likely get muddy, and at that point players on both sides of the ball are trying to save their knees and careers by keeping everything on a north/south direction rather than using the edges for cutbacks and such.
Throw in the forecast that winds may exceed 20mph and you can pretty much bet on a war of attrition in the trenches. PFF ranks Pitt's OL #4, Cleve's #14. However, the Steel DL is ranked #25 against the run, while Cleve is #12. So the trenches should be a virtual stalemate. I don't want to chase the under after the value is gone, but the over seems fruitless at this point. (IF the forecast holds up)
First Energy Field has underground heating but still uses natural Bluegrass which doesn't hold up to rain as well as a synthetic surface. It will likely get muddy, and at that point players on both sides of the ball are trying to save their knees and careers by keeping everything on a north/south direction rather than using the edges for cutbacks and such.
Throw in the forecast that winds may exceed 20mph and you can pretty much bet on a war of attrition in the trenches. PFF ranks Pitt's OL #4, Cleve's #14. However, the Steel DL is ranked #25 against the run, while Cleve is #12. So the trenches should be a virtual stalemate. I don't want to chase the under after the value is gone, but the over seems fruitless at this point. (IF the forecast holds up)
First Energy Field has underground heating but still uses natural Bluegrass which doesn't hold up to rain as well as a synthetic surface. It will likely get muddy, and at that point players on both sides of the ball are trying to save their knees and careers by keeping everything on a north/south direction rather than using the edges for cutbacks and such.
Throw in the forecast that winds may exceed 20mph and you can pretty much bet on a war of attrition in the trenches. PFF ranks Pitt's OL #4, Cleve's #14. However, the Steel DL is ranked #25 against the run, while Cleve is #12. So the trenches should be a virtual stalemate. I don't want to chase the under after the value is gone, but the over seems fruitless at this point. (IF the forecast holds up)
Been raining light all day, increasing overnight and through most of the game
First Energy Field has underground heating but still uses natural Bluegrass which doesn't hold up to rain as well as a synthetic surface. It will likely get muddy, and at that point players on both sides of the ball are trying to save their knees and careers by keeping everything on a north/south direction rather than using the edges for cutbacks and such.
Throw in the forecast that winds may exceed 20mph and you can pretty much bet on a war of attrition in the trenches. PFF ranks Pitt's OL #4, Cleve's #14. However, the Steel DL is ranked #25 against the run, while Cleve is #12. So the trenches should be a virtual stalemate. I don't want to chase the under after the value is gone, but the over seems fruitless at this point. (IF the forecast holds up)
Been raining light all day, increasing overnight and through most of the game
JAX -3 Before we get too excited about the Cats, let's realize they lost 6 times in the regular season last year. Of course that was still less than half the losses that the Giants suffered.
MIA +1 If I could recommend just 1 same game parlay for the day, it would be the Dolphins and the under 45.
INDY -2 I think the Bengals are going to stink this year and although this a winnable spot for Marvin, Ginger, and friends, I fully expect them to blow it.
HOU +6 Last year the Texicans beat the Patriots in most categories but lost the game due to some typical Brady magic. Brandon Cooks led the Pats in total yardage and hauled in 2 of Tom's 5 TDs. Until Edelman returns, there is no one to replace him. I'll call for the outright upset and then we should fade Houston next week in Nashville because that's just how the NFL works.
AZ -2 Jay Gruden is 0-4 in season openers. I think Sam Bradford will thrive this year because the pressure of being an elite QB in this league has finally worn off. Sam always played his best when the spot light was the dimmest.
JAX -3 Before we get too excited about the Cats, let's realize they lost 6 times in the regular season last year. Of course that was still less than half the losses that the Giants suffered.
MIA +1 If I could recommend just 1 same game parlay for the day, it would be the Dolphins and the under 45.
INDY -2 I think the Bengals are going to stink this year and although this a winnable spot for Marvin, Ginger, and friends, I fully expect them to blow it.
HOU +6 Last year the Texicans beat the Patriots in most categories but lost the game due to some typical Brady magic. Brandon Cooks led the Pats in total yardage and hauled in 2 of Tom's 5 TDs. Until Edelman returns, there is no one to replace him. I'll call for the outright upset and then we should fade Houston next week in Nashville because that's just how the NFL works.
AZ -2 Jay Gruden is 0-4 in season openers. I think Sam Bradford will thrive this year because the pressure of being an elite QB in this league has finally worn off. Sam always played his best when the spot light was the dimmest.
1-31-1 since the start of the 2016 season. At least the 31 didn't change.
Meanwhile, what the hell have I done by backing this Steve Wilks guy who coaches the Cardinals? Does he have any clue? Any at all? This 1H is a nightmare for Zona. But I read that he already purchased a 2.4 million dollar home in August. I want to personally evict him. I have never seen someone so in over his head as this dude.
1-31-1 since the start of the 2016 season. At least the 31 didn't change.
Meanwhile, what the hell have I done by backing this Steve Wilks guy who coaches the Cardinals? Does he have any clue? Any at all? This 1H is a nightmare for Zona. But I read that he already purchased a 2.4 million dollar home in August. I want to personally evict him. I have never seen someone so in over his head as this dude.
The Browns are +5 in takeaways today. Since the Browns returned to the NFL, teams with a turnover margin of +5 or better in a game are 132-4-1. The Browns are responsible for two of those losses and the tie.
The Browns are +5 in takeaways today. Since the Browns returned to the NFL, teams with a turnover margin of +5 or better in a game are 132-4-1. The Browns are responsible for two of those losses and the tie.
i'm going to be looking at two games early. atlanta over carolina. i think it should be 6/6.5 and i saw 5. and SF over detroit. i need to see what detroit does tonight, but i'm seeing 3.5.
i'm going to be looking at two games early. atlanta over carolina. i think it should be 6/6.5 and i saw 5. and SF over detroit. i need to see what detroit does tonight, but i'm seeing 3.5.
The Browns are +5 in takeaways today. Since the Browns returned to the NFL, teams with a turnover margin of +5 or better in a game are 132-4-1. The Browns are responsible for two of those losses and the tie.
The Browns are +5 in takeaways today. Since the Browns returned to the NFL, teams with a turnover margin of +5 or better in a game are 132-4-1. The Browns are responsible for two of those losses and the tie.
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