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Trump's praise of Saddam Hussein brings bipartisan disdain
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#3
Not sure I disagree with Trump here.
What is worse, a dictator or this massive mess we created which will not be solved until the place is either nuked 50 feet down or another dictator comes in?
I dont see how anything outside an iron fist dictator can control religious groups fighting each other, it will never ever end.
Posted:
#5
Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:
Bush - Saddam was evil
Bush - Saddam was evil
Trump - Saddam was good
Confused and clueless GOP
You see this....is just more intellectual dishonesty...and we could certainly use less of it.
Trump said Saddam was good at killing the terrorists and keeping them in check. Which is probably true because he had the people spying on each other.
Please stop posting garbage like this. It only gets the donkeys riled up like in post #4
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
You see this....is just more intellectual dishonesty...and we could certainly use less of it.
Trump said Saddam was good at killing the terrorists and keeping them in check. Which is probably true because he had the people spying on each other.
Please stop posting garbage like this. It only gets the donkeys riled up like in post #4
You don't get it . what is intellectual dishonesty ? 
Saddam did not only kill terrorists
Saddam killed anyone who opposed his brutal regime.
Saddam used chemical gas against the Kurd.The attack killed between 3,200 and 5,000 people and injured 7,000 to 10,000 more, most of them civilians
genocidal massacre against the Kurdish people in Iraq and the largest chemical weapons attack directed against a civilian-populated area in history.
Saddam was good at doing US and Saudi Arbia (Sunnin muslims) dirty work against Iran (Iraq -Iran war, control shia majority in Iraq).
The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed.
GW Bush speech
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/mar/18/usa.iraq
So now Saddam was a terrorist who killed other terrorists
what terrorists did Saddam kill ?
Both Bush and Trump are wrong.
Saddam and the sunnis minority ruled Iraq with an iron fist.
For a long time, the majority Shia Muslims were discriminated by the Sunni-dominated regime.
Saddam would not mind killing other Sunnis to maintain power. he did not care about religion
ISIS is comprised of Sunnis muslims (wahhabi doctrine) , who hate and kill shia muslisms. The root of the hostility is a political question in itself: who is the legitimate successor to the Prophet Muhammed?
here is another informative read
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/4-questions-ISIS-rebels-use-to-tell-Sunni-from-Shia/articleshow/37257563.cms
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#8
Saddam Hussein killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
So did George W. Bush, but his war of aggression destabilized the entire region. They are not exactly better off, there have been plenty of atrocities by people not named Saddam Hussein, and we spent more than $2 trillion according to Reuters:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-war-anniversary-idUSBRE92D0PG20130314
American casualties as of 2016-06-29:
Killed - 4,424
Injures - 31,952, and I see way too many young men in wheelchairs boarding the buses.
No WMD's were ever found. How exactly was that attack a good idea especially considering the dire consequences that clueless Babushka evidently never foresaw - or worse - foresaw and just did not give a damn?
So did George W. Bush, but his war of aggression destabilized the entire region. They are not exactly better off, there have been plenty of atrocities by people not named Saddam Hussein, and we spent more than $2 trillion according to Reuters:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-war-anniversary-idUSBRE92D0PG20130314
American casualties as of 2016-06-29:
Killed - 4,424
Injures - 31,952, and I see way too many young men in wheelchairs boarding the buses.
No WMD's were ever found. How exactly was that attack a good idea especially considering the dire consequences that clueless Babushka evidently never foresaw - or worse - foresaw and just did not give a damn?
Posted:
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Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:
You don't get it . what is intellectual dishonesty ?
Saddam did not only kill terrorists
Saddam killed anyone who opposed his brutal regime.
Saddam used chemical gas against the Kurd.The attack killed between 3,200 and 5,000 people and injured 7,000 to 10,000 more, most of them civilians
genocidal massacre against the Kurdish people in Iraq and the largest chemical weapons attack directed against a civilian-populated area in history.
Saddam was good at doing US and Saudi Arbia (Sunnin muslims) dirty work against Iran (Iraq -Iran war, control shia majority in Iraq).
The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed.
GW Bush speech
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/mar/18/usa.iraq
So now Saddam was a terrorist who killed other terrorists
what terrorists did Saddam kill ?
Both Bush and Trump are wrong.
Saddam and the sunnis minority ruled Iraq with an iron fist.
For a long time, the majority Shia Muslims were discriminated by the Sunni-dominated regime.
Saddam would not mind killing other Sunnis to maintain power. he did not care about religion
ISIS is comprised of Sunnis muslims (wahhabi doctrine) , who hate and kill shia muslisms. The root of the hostility is a political question in itself: who is the legitimate successor to the Prophet Muhammed?
here is another informative read
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/4-questions-ISIS-rebels-use-to-tell-Sunni-from-Shia/articleshow/37257563.cms
No shlt sherlock...you were still misrepresenting the context of what Trump was saying.
We all know Saddam was a monster...you can't have it both ways...either celebrate that bush killed a brutal dictator at extraordinary cost or say you prefer saddam was still alive and killing hundreds of thousands. No doubt if Saddam was still alive you dumbalibs would be pretending he causes no problems.
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
No shlt sherlock...you were still misrepresenting the context of what Trump was saying.
We all know Saddam was a monster...you can't have it both ways...either celebrate that bush killed a brutal dictator at extraordinary cost or say you prefer saddam was still alive and killing hundreds of thousands. No doubt if Saddam was still alive you dumbalibs would be pretending he causes no problems.
I am not misinterpreting Trump's statement
Both Trump and Bush are clueless and wrong.
GWH Bush ( Bush 41 ) understood Iraq situation.
Saddam used chemical against civilians.
How many terrorists (AL-Qaeda ..etc) did Saddam kill ?
You have some issues and delusion of grandeur is not the only one. I have known about your GD or Delusion of grandeur condition a long time ago. Hardly a surprise
You can't debate without resorting to names calling. who is sherlock ?
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there were NO WMD, no Al Qaeda or ISIS either. The proto-ISIS group, Jam’at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (TJ) led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was born out of the Iraq war, as part of a coalition of Sunni resistance groups fighting the occupying forces. TJ changed its name on multiple occasions during its evolution to becoming ISIS. In late 2004, TJ officially joined Al-Qaeda, after Zarqawi pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden, and became known as Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). In 2006, AQI became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), which later became the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) when it branched into the Syrian civil war.
Sunni figthers are Saddam people ( now ISIS)
How was Saddam killing them ?
Saddam was terrorizing Iraq population and Iran during Iraq-Iran with U.S help.
Posted:
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Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:
there were NO WMD, no Al Qaeda or ISIS either. The proto-ISIS group, Jam’at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (TJ) led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was born out of the Iraq war, as part of a coalition of Sunni resistance groups fighting the occupying forces. TJ changed its name on multiple occasions during its evolution to becoming ISIS. In late 2004, TJ officially joined Al-Qaeda, after Zarqawi pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden, and became known as Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). In 2006, AQI became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), which later became the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) when it branched into the Syrian civil war.
Sunni figthers are Saddam people ( now ISIS)
How was Saddam killing them ?
Saddam was terrorizing Iraq population and Iran during Iraq-Iran with U.S help.
I'm sure Trump was talking more in the terms of what killer b was saying. A terrorist doesn't have to wear an al quaeda uniform when he blows up the market to fit the definition.
I think Trump was talking about Saddams ability to keep the markets mostly free from explosions in comparison.
To say he was saying Saddam was a good man is disingenuous. And thats exactly what you did.
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