I know a lot of you right wingers take the sound bites you are fed at FAB Fox and just run with them, the reality is that Romney didnt want to invest in Staples, invested very little, and got out first chance he got and when staples only had 24 stores.
"The reality is that Romney didn't start Staples at all. He thought Staples was a bad idea. He even tried to prevent Bain from investing in the company.
Romney didn't like the idea at all. He thought Staples was a bad investment and turned Bessemer down. Not once, not twice, but three times.
Only after other people at Bain pushed did Romney reluctantly reconsider. He still expressed strong opposition to the deal, but would not stand in the way of providing some backing.."
I know a lot of you right wingers take the sound bites you are fed at FAB Fox and just run with them, the reality is that Romney didnt want to invest in Staples, invested very little, and got out first chance he got and when staples only had 24 stores.
"The reality is that Romney didn't start Staples at all. He thought Staples was a bad idea. He even tried to prevent Bain from investing in the company.
Romney didn't like the idea at all. He thought Staples was a bad investment and turned Bessemer down. Not once, not twice, but three times.
Only after other people at Bain pushed did Romney reluctantly reconsider. He still expressed strong opposition to the deal, but would not stand in the way of providing some backing.."
my point is that romney and many in here point to staples success as a romney success. it most certainly is and was not.
And there are some reports that Obama didn't order or give permission for the raid on OBL's compound and that it was actually Hilary and Leon Panetta that ordered that strike. Who took the credit for it?
my point is that romney and many in here point to staples success as a romney success. it most certainly is and was not.
And there are some reports that Obama didn't order or give permission for the raid on OBL's compound and that it was actually Hilary and Leon Panetta that ordered that strike. Who took the credit for it?
And there are some reports that Obama didn't order or give permission for the raid on OBL's compound and that it was actually Hilary and Leon Panetta that ordered that strike. Who took the credit for it?
So the old "your politician is worse than mine" routine?
What you just said had zero relevance to the fact that Romney was against Staples and yet uses the "success" as a media tool to promote himself.
And there are some reports that Obama didn't order or give permission for the raid on OBL's compound and that it was actually Hilary and Leon Panetta that ordered that strike. Who took the credit for it?
So the old "your politician is worse than mine" routine?
What you just said had zero relevance to the fact that Romney was against Staples and yet uses the "success" as a media tool to promote himself.
So the old "your politician is worse than mine" routine?
What you just said had zero relevance to the fact that Romney was against Staples and yet uses the "success" as a media tool to promote himself.
He was against it but in the end he reluctently allowed it to happen. Same thing Obama did...except in his case the choppers were already in the air when he approved the strike.
Remind me again why the two have nothing to do with each other?
So the old "your politician is worse than mine" routine?
What you just said had zero relevance to the fact that Romney was against Staples and yet uses the "success" as a media tool to promote himself.
He was against it but in the end he reluctently allowed it to happen. Same thing Obama did...except in his case the choppers were already in the air when he approved the strike.
Remind me again why the two have nothing to do with each other?
He was against it but in the end he reluctently allowed it to happen. Same thing Obama did...except in his case the choppers were already in the air when he approved the strike.
Remind me again why the two have nothing to do with each other?
You are trying to deflect the reality by pointing the finger at another politician instead of just accepting what Romney did or just not saying anything.
It is phony for him to toot his horn about Staples when he was so blatantly against it.
He was against it but in the end he reluctently allowed it to happen. Same thing Obama did...except in his case the choppers were already in the air when he approved the strike.
Remind me again why the two have nothing to do with each other?
You are trying to deflect the reality by pointing the finger at another politician instead of just accepting what Romney did or just not saying anything.
It is phony for him to toot his horn about Staples when he was so blatantly against it.
You are trying to deflect the reality by pointing the finger at another politician instead of just accepting what Romney did or just not saying anything.
It is phony for him to toot his horn about Staples when he was so blatantly against it.
This deflection thing that you accuse me of happens all the time and I'm suprised (a little) that you choose to point out only mine.
Its also phony for Obama to toot his own horn regarding Bin Laden raid when he was allegedly pulled off of the golf course to watch the raid on CC tv.
I think its relevent to point out since the OP is one of the last few that carry Obams water.
PS. DL does almost nothing but attempt to deflect. Where are your statements to him for that?
You are trying to deflect the reality by pointing the finger at another politician instead of just accepting what Romney did or just not saying anything.
It is phony for him to toot his horn about Staples when he was so blatantly against it.
This deflection thing that you accuse me of happens all the time and I'm suprised (a little) that you choose to point out only mine.
Its also phony for Obama to toot his own horn regarding Bin Laden raid when he was allegedly pulled off of the golf course to watch the raid on CC tv.
I think its relevent to point out since the OP is one of the last few that carry Obams water.
PS. DL does almost nothing but attempt to deflect. Where are your statements to him for that?
So pointing fingers at Obama and DL disproves Romney's faults how exactly?
Romney was wrong on this one. I don't think he is touting himself as much as accused regarding this.
He wasn't wrong on the Olympics in 2002.
Since his son's have a trust fund to split 5 ways of 100 million. I'd say he's a pretty smart guy since nobody is saying he should be in prison for making all that jingle.
How much is in the trust fund for Sasha and Aleah? Id guess nowhere near the 100 million mark.
So pointing fingers at Obama and DL disproves Romney's faults how exactly?
Romney was wrong on this one. I don't think he is touting himself as much as accused regarding this.
He wasn't wrong on the Olympics in 2002.
Since his son's have a trust fund to split 5 ways of 100 million. I'd say he's a pretty smart guy since nobody is saying he should be in prison for making all that jingle.
How much is in the trust fund for Sasha and Aleah? Id guess nowhere near the 100 million mark.
So pointing fingers at Obama and DL disproves Romney's faults how exactly?
In 2000 I bet $1100 on the Washington Redskins at home to cover against the Dallas Cowboys against advice from a good friend. Dallas won 27-21 and I lost $1100 on that bet...more than I've lost on any one bet in my life.
So pointing fingers at Obama and DL disproves Romney's faults how exactly?
In 2000 I bet $1100 on the Washington Redskins at home to cover against the Dallas Cowboys against advice from a good friend. Dallas won 27-21 and I lost $1100 on that bet...more than I've lost on any one bet in my life.
The fact a guy like Romney has that kind of money proves the disparaging nature of the business he has profited from.
Bain is legally allowed to leverage as they are, take risk as they do, make bad business decisions as they do and still the guy is able to make the kind of money as he does.
I am sure the employees at all the failed businesses that Bain "invested" in (they really arent investing, rather leveraging using debt) are not feeling as fortunate when they lost their jobs, benefits and pensions thanks to the financial games that Bain plays to obtain that 100M for Mitt and his kids.
The fact a guy like Romney has that kind of money proves the disparaging nature of the business he has profited from.
Bain is legally allowed to leverage as they are, take risk as they do, make bad business decisions as they do and still the guy is able to make the kind of money as he does.
I am sure the employees at all the failed businesses that Bain "invested" in (they really arent investing, rather leveraging using debt) are not feeling as fortunate when they lost their jobs, benefits and pensions thanks to the financial games that Bain plays to obtain that 100M for Mitt and his kids.
The fact a guy like Romney has that kind of money proves the disparaging nature of the business he has profited from.
Bain is legally allowed to leverage as they are, take risk as they do, make bad business decisions as they do and still the guy is able to make the kind of money as he does.
I am sure the employees at all the failed businesses that Bain "invested" in (they really arent investing, rather leveraging using debt) are not feeling as fortunate when they lost their jobs, benefits and pensions thanks to the financial games that Bain plays to obtain that 100M for Mitt and his kids.
He gets no credit for saving the 2002 Olympics that were wraught with scandal and 10 million in debt pre Mitt?
The fact a guy like Romney has that kind of money proves the disparaging nature of the business he has profited from.
Bain is legally allowed to leverage as they are, take risk as they do, make bad business decisions as they do and still the guy is able to make the kind of money as he does.
I am sure the employees at all the failed businesses that Bain "invested" in (they really arent investing, rather leveraging using debt) are not feeling as fortunate when they lost their jobs, benefits and pensions thanks to the financial games that Bain plays to obtain that 100M for Mitt and his kids.
He gets no credit for saving the 2002 Olympics that were wraught with scandal and 10 million in debt pre Mitt?
He gets no credit for saving the 2002 Olympics that were wraught with scandal and 10 million in debt pre Mitt?
I dont care about the 2002 Olympics, I do know there was scandal there and a good deal of the cost for the success was off the backs of the taxpayer (as is the case in all Olympics).
How much of Bain capital or the 100M of Mitts family fortune was used as donations to the success of the 2002 Olympics?
He gets no credit for saving the 2002 Olympics that were wraught with scandal and 10 million in debt pre Mitt?
I dont care about the 2002 Olympics, I do know there was scandal there and a good deal of the cost for the success was off the backs of the taxpayer (as is the case in all Olympics).
How much of Bain capital or the 100M of Mitts family fortune was used as donations to the success of the 2002 Olympics?
I dont care about the 2002 Olympics, I do know there was scandal there and a good deal of the cost for the success was off the backs of the taxpayer (as is the case in all Olympics).
How much of Bain capital or the 100M of Mitts family fortune was used as donations to the success of the 2002 Olympics?
So you freely admit that you're being selective when it comes to Mittens flaws and credits which, if I'm keeping score for you, too many flaws and zero credits.
You are as good at giving Mittens credit as you are at keeping DL from calling out aliases.
I dont care about the 2002 Olympics, I do know there was scandal there and a good deal of the cost for the success was off the backs of the taxpayer (as is the case in all Olympics).
How much of Bain capital or the 100M of Mitts family fortune was used as donations to the success of the 2002 Olympics?
So you freely admit that you're being selective when it comes to Mittens flaws and credits which, if I'm keeping score for you, too many flaws and zero credits.
You are as good at giving Mittens credit as you are at keeping DL from calling out aliases.
And there are some reports that Obama didn't order or give permission for the raid on OBL's compound and that it was actually Hilary and Leon Panetta that ordered that strike. Who took the credit for it?
And there are some reports that Obama didn't order or give permission for the raid on OBL's compound and that it was actually Hilary and Leon Panetta that ordered that strike. Who took the credit for it?
Romney returned to Bain Capital the day after the election, but the loss had a lasting effect; he told his brother, "I never want to run for something again unless I can win."[44][115] When his father died in 1995, Mitt donated his inheritance to BYU's George W. Romney Institute of Public Management and joined the board and was vice-chair of the Points of Light Foundation (which had incorporated his father's National Volunteer Center).[43][77] His mother died in 1998. Romney felt restless as the decade neared a close; the goal of simply making more money was losing its appeal to him.[44][115] He no longer had a church leadership position, although he still taught Sunday School.[87] During the long and controversial approval and construction process for the $30 million Mormon temple in Belmont, he feared that as a political figure who had opposed Kennedy, he would become a focal point for opposition to the structure.[88] He thus kept to a limited, behind-the-scenes role in attempts to ease tensions between the church and local residents, but locals nonetheless sometimes referred to it as "Mitt's Temple".[84][87][88]
Ann Romney was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1998; Romney described watching her fail a series of neurological tests as the worst day of his life.[44] After two years of severe difficulties with the disease, she found while living in Park City, Utah (where the couple had built a vacation home) a mixture of mainstream, alternative, and equestrian therapies that gave her a lifestyle mostly without limitations.[51] When the offer came for Romney to take over the troubled 2002 Winter Olympics and Paralympics, to be held in Salt Lake City in Utah, she urged him to take it, and eager for a new challenge, he did.[115][116] On February 11, 1999, Romney was hired as the president and CEO of the Salt Lake Organizing Committee for the Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games of 2002.[117]
Romney returned to Bain Capital the day after the election, but the loss had a lasting effect; he told his brother, "I never want to run for something again unless I can win."[44][115] When his father died in 1995, Mitt donated his inheritance to BYU's George W. Romney Institute of Public Management and joined the board and was vice-chair of the Points of Light Foundation (which had incorporated his father's National Volunteer Center).[43][77] His mother died in 1998. Romney felt restless as the decade neared a close; the goal of simply making more money was losing its appeal to him.[44][115] He no longer had a church leadership position, although he still taught Sunday School.[87] During the long and controversial approval and construction process for the $30 million Mormon temple in Belmont, he feared that as a political figure who had opposed Kennedy, he would become a focal point for opposition to the structure.[88] He thus kept to a limited, behind-the-scenes role in attempts to ease tensions between the church and local residents, but locals nonetheless sometimes referred to it as "Mitt's Temple".[84][87][88]
Ann Romney was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1998; Romney described watching her fail a series of neurological tests as the worst day of his life.[44] After two years of severe difficulties with the disease, she found while living in Park City, Utah (where the couple had built a vacation home) a mixture of mainstream, alternative, and equestrian therapies that gave her a lifestyle mostly without limitations.[51] When the offer came for Romney to take over the troubled 2002 Winter Olympics and Paralympics, to be held in Salt Lake City in Utah, she urged him to take it, and eager for a new challenge, he did.[115][116] On February 11, 1999, Romney was hired as the president and CEO of the Salt Lake Organizing Committee for the Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games of 2002.[117]
Before Romney came on, the event was running $379 million short of its revenue benchmarks.[117] Plans were being made to scale back the games to compensate for the fiscal crisis, and there were fears the games might be moved away entirely.[118] The Games had also been damaged by allegations of bribery involving top officials, including prior Salt Lake Olympic Committee president and CEO Frank Joklik. Joklik and committee vice president Dave Johnson were forced to resign.[119] Romney was chosen by Utah figures looking for someone with expertise in business and law and with connections to the state and the LDS Church.[120] The appointment faced some initial criticism from non-Mormons, and fears from Mormons, that it represented cronyism or gave the games too Mormon an image.[28]
Romney revamped the organization's leadership and policies, reduced budgets, and boosted fund raising. He soothed worried corporate sponsors and recruited many new ones.[115][120] He admitted past problems, listened to local critics, and appealed to Utah's citizenry with a message of optimism.[115] Romney worked to ensure the safety of the Games following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks by coordinating a $300 million security budget.[116] Overall, he oversaw a $1.32 billion budget, 700 employees, and 26,000 volunteers.[117] The federal government provided $382 million of that budget,[120] much of it because Romney lobbied Congress to provide money for security- and non-security-related items.[121] An additional federal $1.1 billion was spent on indirect support in the form of highway and transit projects.[121]
Romney became the public face of the Olympic effort, appearing in countless photographs and news stories and even on Olympics souvenir pins.[115] Romney's omnipresence irked those who thought he was taking too much of the credit for the success, had exaggerated the state of initial distress, or was primarily looking to improve his own image.[115][120]
Despite the initial fiscal shortfall, the Games ended up clearing a profit of $100 million,[122] not counting the $224.5 million in security costs contributed by outside sources.[123] His performance as Olympics head was rated positively by 87 percent of Utahns.[124] Romney and his wife contributed $1 million to the Olympics, and he donated to charity the $1.4 million in salary and severance payments he received for his three years as president and CEO.[125]
Before Romney came on, the event was running $379 million short of its revenue benchmarks.[117] Plans were being made to scale back the games to compensate for the fiscal crisis, and there were fears the games might be moved away entirely.[118] The Games had also been damaged by allegations of bribery involving top officials, including prior Salt Lake Olympic Committee president and CEO Frank Joklik. Joklik and committee vice president Dave Johnson were forced to resign.[119] Romney was chosen by Utah figures looking for someone with expertise in business and law and with connections to the state and the LDS Church.[120] The appointment faced some initial criticism from non-Mormons, and fears from Mormons, that it represented cronyism or gave the games too Mormon an image.[28]
Romney revamped the organization's leadership and policies, reduced budgets, and boosted fund raising. He soothed worried corporate sponsors and recruited many new ones.[115][120] He admitted past problems, listened to local critics, and appealed to Utah's citizenry with a message of optimism.[115] Romney worked to ensure the safety of the Games following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks by coordinating a $300 million security budget.[116] Overall, he oversaw a $1.32 billion budget, 700 employees, and 26,000 volunteers.[117] The federal government provided $382 million of that budget,[120] much of it because Romney lobbied Congress to provide money for security- and non-security-related items.[121] An additional federal $1.1 billion was spent on indirect support in the form of highway and transit projects.[121]
Romney became the public face of the Olympic effort, appearing in countless photographs and news stories and even on Olympics souvenir pins.[115] Romney's omnipresence irked those who thought he was taking too much of the credit for the success, had exaggerated the state of initial distress, or was primarily looking to improve his own image.[115][120]
Despite the initial fiscal shortfall, the Games ended up clearing a profit of $100 million,[122] not counting the $224.5 million in security costs contributed by outside sources.[123] His performance as Olympics head was rated positively by 87 percent of Utahns.[124] Romney and his wife contributed $1 million to the Olympics, and he donated to charity the $1.4 million in salary and severance payments he received for his three years as president and CEO.[125]
Romney was widely praised for his efforts with the 2002 Winter Olympics[116] including by President George W. Bush,[23] and it solidified his reputation as a turnaround artist.[120] Harvard Business School taught a case study based around his actions.[59] He wrote a book about his experience titled Turnaround: Crisis, Leadership, and the Olympic Games, published in 2004. The role gave Romney experience in dealing with federal, state, and local entities, a public persona he had previously lacked, and the chance to re-launch his political aspirations.[115] He was mentioned as a possible candidate for statewide office in both Massachusetts and Utah, and also as possibly joining the Bush administration.[116][126][127]
Romney was widely praised for his efforts with the 2002 Winter Olympics[116] including by President George W. Bush,[23] and it solidified his reputation as a turnaround artist.[120] Harvard Business School taught a case study based around his actions.[59] He wrote a book about his experience titled Turnaround: Crisis, Leadership, and the Olympic Games, published in 2004. The role gave Romney experience in dealing with federal, state, and local entities, a public persona he had previously lacked, and the chance to re-launch his political aspirations.[115] He was mentioned as a possible candidate for statewide office in both Massachusetts and Utah, and also as possibly joining the Bush administration.[116][126][127]
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