.................... that's funny Don.
But "Ah So" is Japanese..but you probably lump those Asians all together ....lol
No, As sol is English
.................... that's funny Don.
But "Ah So" is Japanese..but you probably lump those Asians all together ....lol
No, As sol is English
.................... that's funny Don.
But "Ah So" is Japanese..but you probably lump those Asians all together ....lol
No, As sol is English
Sorry---I thought the point was obvious--there are more Indians than Mexicans. Yes, maybe 38 Mexicas here and 11 illegal here--so why would those 50 be upset? They are already here. There are millions of Indians here as well. I was just simply saying that is a much larger group of people to make angry if they couldn't come and go freely if they bordered us. So do not see that as relevant or even true. It is the accepted practice around the world. People are not upset about it.
Sorry---I thought the point was obvious--there are more Indians than Mexicans. Yes, maybe 38 Mexicas here and 11 illegal here--so why would those 50 be upset? They are already here. There are millions of Indians here as well. I was just simply saying that is a much larger group of people to make angry if they couldn't come and go freely if they bordered us. So do not see that as relevant or even true. It is the accepted practice around the world. People are not upset about it.
Huh? There are MILLIONS of Indians here? Of course Mexico is not India--that WAS my point. Don't see anything wrong with comparing who comes in illegally? My point is simply the only reason it is tacitly allowed is because they border us and India or Scotland does not. Not hard to understand. Liberals just try to sugar coat it because they are neighbors is all. Easy to understand; but I feel it is duplicitous is all. Which is how we arrived at this 'oh so complex' issue of dealing with them in sucha a politically correct manner. Not so politically correct with Canadians, etc.
Huh? There are MILLIONS of Indians here? Of course Mexico is not India--that WAS my point. Don't see anything wrong with comparing who comes in illegally? My point is simply the only reason it is tacitly allowed is because they border us and India or Scotland does not. Not hard to understand. Liberals just try to sugar coat it because they are neighbors is all. Easy to understand; but I feel it is duplicitous is all. Which is how we arrived at this 'oh so complex' issue of dealing with them in sucha a politically correct manner. Not so politically correct with Canadians, etc.
It might be extreme but it’s the only way I can think of to solve the problem. It’s not what you do. It’s how it is presented. If the border patrol was producing results this wouldn’t even be a political issue. It’s obvious that the border patrol can’t get the job done. It’s time to put people who can and will get the job done to end this stupid debate. The respectful steps I presented before putting the military in place would create a smooth transition for putting the military in charge.
I am not saying this is wrong. I am just saying it seems extreme. I might even be for it also. Obviously, border patrol does what it can and would do more if they had more manpower. So, maybe retire some of the military after you end the wars and transition them to the border patrol. Maybe more manpower is needed. I just think it can be done more thourgh policies, etc. Military just seems aggressive and disresepctful to me. But you may be correct; maybe that is what is needed.
It might be extreme but it’s the only way I can think of to solve the problem. It’s not what you do. It’s how it is presented. If the border patrol was producing results this wouldn’t even be a political issue. It’s obvious that the border patrol can’t get the job done. It’s time to put people who can and will get the job done to end this stupid debate. The respectful steps I presented before putting the military in place would create a smooth transition for putting the military in charge.
I am not saying this is wrong. I am just saying it seems extreme. I might even be for it also. Obviously, border patrol does what it can and would do more if they had more manpower. So, maybe retire some of the military after you end the wars and transition them to the border patrol. Maybe more manpower is needed. I just think it can be done more thourgh policies, etc. Military just seems aggressive and disresepctful to me. But you may be correct; maybe that is what is needed.
The guy has said this??? Or you are stereotyping him? Do you know of anywhere at all where I can see what he suggests? Of course you should be interested in something someone close says about the issue. I mean he seems to have taken a strongly positive stance on prisoners from what I have read. Maybe he is more positive on this issue. I am sure he is more knowledgeable on it than we are, being so close to it everyday. I just do not understand the mindset of name-calling, etc. just because someone doesn't agree with your chosen ideas?
What are my views? That I want legal immigration? You think that is hate-mongering? How so? There are no lines to read between, I am very open about this. I think most reasonable people feel this way. I understand there some people that want to be outrageous with landmines and military and all that. I really do not think you fall into that category and I hope you don't think I do. I just feel a hiring policy and clear immigration policy wrok effectively. Maybe I am wrong. But I would love us to give it a shot.
The guy has said this??? Or you are stereotyping him? Do you know of anywhere at all where I can see what he suggests? Of course you should be interested in something someone close says about the issue. I mean he seems to have taken a strongly positive stance on prisoners from what I have read. Maybe he is more positive on this issue. I am sure he is more knowledgeable on it than we are, being so close to it everyday. I just do not understand the mindset of name-calling, etc. just because someone doesn't agree with your chosen ideas?
What are my views? That I want legal immigration? You think that is hate-mongering? How so? There are no lines to read between, I am very open about this. I think most reasonable people feel this way. I understand there some people that want to be outrageous with landmines and military and all that. I really do not think you fall into that category and I hope you don't think I do. I just feel a hiring policy and clear immigration policy wrok effectively. Maybe I am wrong. But I would love us to give it a shot.
Everyone is somewhat prejudiced. It’s to what extent that distinguishes the good from the bad. Some are proud of it and some don’t even know it until it’s brought to their attention. When you study human beings for as many years as I have, it becomes impossible not to see sex/race in everything. Sure there are countries that don’t help their own. Remember this is if “I” was president. I think I could strong arm Mexico into helping its people.
I have never really believed this. I have usually heard it mostly from bigots, etc. to justify their own prejudices, by saying everyone has it to a degree. Maybe I just grew up in so diverse a situation, etc. that I do not see it as most others do.
Hard to use 'military' and 'strongarm' and be real sensitive to their situation though. But I think you are onto something positive.
Does your guy Gary have site talking on this specifically?
Everyone is somewhat prejudiced. It’s to what extent that distinguishes the good from the bad. Some are proud of it and some don’t even know it until it’s brought to their attention. When you study human beings for as many years as I have, it becomes impossible not to see sex/race in everything. Sure there are countries that don’t help their own. Remember this is if “I” was president. I think I could strong arm Mexico into helping its people.
I have never really believed this. I have usually heard it mostly from bigots, etc. to justify their own prejudices, by saying everyone has it to a degree. Maybe I just grew up in so diverse a situation, etc. that I do not see it as most others do.
Hard to use 'military' and 'strongarm' and be real sensitive to their situation though. But I think you are onto something positive.
Does your guy Gary have site talking on this specifically?
No, As sol is English
"Fellas, nicknames make posting more interesting, as long as they are within reason, and not demeaning. Obviously I like to take it to the edge. I do not mind at all if you nickname me, but not vulgar nor insulting." ~ don juan
Don, you don't want to have vulgar demeaning insults directed toward you ..but it's ok for you to do it ...you're phoney Holy Willy ..and your pretend quailities have been exposed...sham wham man.
No, As sol is English
"Fellas, nicknames make posting more interesting, as long as they are within reason, and not demeaning. Obviously I like to take it to the edge. I do not mind at all if you nickname me, but not vulgar nor insulting." ~ don juan
Don, you don't want to have vulgar demeaning insults directed toward you ..but it's ok for you to do it ...you're phoney Holy Willy ..and your pretend quailities have been exposed...sham wham man.
Ah ha, all of a sudden the clown doesn't like joking around anymore. I never called you a thing, except what you were,. A foreign car lover, a jerk or a silly clown.
You've been jerking me and everybody's chain for 4 years. Now you're getting all high and mighty calling me phoney. You copied my avatars, and posts, always tailing me like a puppy, undermining my Superbowl record, and ridiculing everything I did.
Ah ha, all of a sudden the clown doesn't like joking around anymore. I never called you a thing, except what you were,. A foreign car lover, a jerk or a silly clown.
You've been jerking me and everybody's chain for 4 years. Now you're getting all high and mighty calling me phoney. You copied my avatars, and posts, always tailing me like a puppy, undermining my Superbowl record, and ridiculing everything I did.
I do not know Joe Arpaio's suggestion(s)? What are they? Do you know where I can find them? I like what he is doing with prisoners. He probably understands the situation way better then you or I do. Therefore, I would be interested in what his thoughts are if you know where I can find them?
What do you think my way is? I didn't really suggest anything at all as extreme or disrespectful as your idea of cutting off trade and having the military all along the border to police it and turn the illegals away.
May I suggest "Google"? Besides, you don't seem to be totally unfamiliar with Mr. Arpaio.
I do not know Joe Arpaio's suggestion(s)? What are they? Do you know where I can find them? I like what he is doing with prisoners. He probably understands the situation way better then you or I do. Therefore, I would be interested in what his thoughts are if you know where I can find them?
What do you think my way is? I didn't really suggest anything at all as extreme or disrespectful as your idea of cutting off trade and having the military all along the border to police it and turn the illegals away.
May I suggest "Google"? Besides, you don't seem to be totally unfamiliar with Mr. Arpaio.
May I suggest "Google"? Besides, you don't seem to be totally unfamiliar with Mr. Arpaio.
May I suggest "Google"? Besides, you don't seem to be totally unfamiliar with Mr. Arpaio.
No, I have never said I know his position on the subject. It is just hard to know his position on prisoners like you did yet have no chance to come across his views on other subjects. No need act all defensive about it.
From I have seen, money read you correctly. Btw, I didn't mention landmines so you can save that "you guys".
No, I have never said I know his position on the subject. It is just hard to know his position on prisoners like you did yet have no chance to come across his views on other subjects. No need act all defensive about it.
From I have seen, money read you correctly. Btw, I didn't mention landmines so you can save that "you guys".
I know--was kidding--I just have pet peeve on how google seems to have monopoly on search engines.
I know--was kidding--I just have pet peeve on how google seems to have monopoly on search engines.
No, I have never said I know his position on the subject. It is just hard to know his position on prisoners like you did yet have no chance to come across his views on other subjects. No need act all defensive about it.
From I have seen, money read you correctly. Btw, I didn't mention landmines so you can save that "you guys".
No Money mentioned land mines and grouped the guy in there with radicals, etc. Seriously, I just have seen in passing what the guy has done with prisoners. I have never heard his stance on immigration. Actually, Money is probably correct. I just do not like when people assume something about someone and goes to name-calling, I simply prefer to hear the person say their stance, etc. is all. Not defensive because I don't know what to defend on his views, may not even like his views.
No, I have never said I know his position on the subject. It is just hard to know his position on prisoners like you did yet have no chance to come across his views on other subjects. No need act all defensive about it.
From I have seen, money read you correctly. Btw, I didn't mention landmines so you can save that "you guys".
No Money mentioned land mines and grouped the guy in there with radicals, etc. Seriously, I just have seen in passing what the guy has done with prisoners. I have never heard his stance on immigration. Actually, Money is probably correct. I just do not like when people assume something about someone and goes to name-calling, I simply prefer to hear the person say their stance, etc. is all. Not defensive because I don't know what to defend on his views, may not even like his views.
Sure you can---look at Irish in the past, etc. I do not know why it has to be always a racial issue with you. I would understand if you said the Republicans would be okay if Canadians were gonna vote Republican. I think it is more political than racial with Mexicans. Republicans feel they will vote Democratic.
Sure you can---look at Irish in the past, etc. I do not know why it has to be always a racial issue with you. I would understand if you said the Republicans would be okay if Canadians were gonna vote Republican. I think it is more political than racial with Mexicans. Republicans feel they will vote Democratic.
You think more manpower is the problem? That shows how ignorant you are on the subject. There are passageways, roads and trails that come and go from Mexico that are unguarded. This isn’t a secret. Everyone that lives on the border who is familiar with the drug trade knows this. It’s about respect and no one respects the border patrol. People laugh at the border patrol. People DO respect the US military.
You are the one that suggested more manpower with the military---not me. I assumed you felt there weren't enough border patrol so were gonna put more military down there? Was I wrong? Were you suggesting putting the exact amount or fewer military? Do you really think illegals would respect the military more than another agency, if so why? And so you have evidence of this or just feel that way? I have never suggested putting MORE people at the border. They try to avoid the patrol? They don't just walk by them as if they couldn't stop them.
You think more manpower is the problem? That shows how ignorant you are on the subject. There are passageways, roads and trails that come and go from Mexico that are unguarded. This isn’t a secret. Everyone that lives on the border who is familiar with the drug trade knows this. It’s about respect and no one respects the border patrol. People laugh at the border patrol. People DO respect the US military.
You are the one that suggested more manpower with the military---not me. I assumed you felt there weren't enough border patrol so were gonna put more military down there? Was I wrong? Were you suggesting putting the exact amount or fewer military? Do you really think illegals would respect the military more than another agency, if so why? And so you have evidence of this or just feel that way? I have never suggested putting MORE people at the border. They try to avoid the patrol? They don't just walk by them as if they couldn't stop them.
This doesn't even sound good if you read it out loud. It is, of course, generally accepted that someone that is around something, works with it and deals with it daily, knows more about it than someone who is not around it.
You think you know more about building an igloo than an Eskimo? What about skiing, no way you know more about that than someone that is surrounded by snow and skis. You spent time where there was not much snow. Certainly, if you are exposed to something you have common sense and can be intuitive when you see something. But to just dismiss someone's opinion that is closer to an issue becuase you don't agree with his political view is silly.
I am sure you know about your wife more than I do for example. You are closer to her. I am sure she knows about herself more than you do. See how that works? But it is true that I do not like when someone is dismissive of someone's opinion on sporst or something like that when they say you never played the game, etc. All of us have watched sports for years and have well informed ideas on this. So, in a sense we didn't play or coach at a high level but have been very close to the game and undertsand it well enough to have an informed opinion. So you cannot dismiss either out of hand.
Please stop calling people inbred and retarded. I am sure he is neither of those. It weakens your argument and makes it look like you are frustrated when you cannot explain it well enough to get your point across. When people resort to name calling it deteriorates the conversation to me. You are one of the few on here I like discussing things with. Could care less if I change your mind or you change my mind. I like when someone I disagree with can fully explain their points openly.
This doesn't even sound good if you read it out loud. It is, of course, generally accepted that someone that is around something, works with it and deals with it daily, knows more about it than someone who is not around it.
You think you know more about building an igloo than an Eskimo? What about skiing, no way you know more about that than someone that is surrounded by snow and skis. You spent time where there was not much snow. Certainly, if you are exposed to something you have common sense and can be intuitive when you see something. But to just dismiss someone's opinion that is closer to an issue becuase you don't agree with his political view is silly.
I am sure you know about your wife more than I do for example. You are closer to her. I am sure she knows about herself more than you do. See how that works? But it is true that I do not like when someone is dismissive of someone's opinion on sporst or something like that when they say you never played the game, etc. All of us have watched sports for years and have well informed ideas on this. So, in a sense we didn't play or coach at a high level but have been very close to the game and undertsand it well enough to have an informed opinion. So you cannot dismiss either out of hand.
Please stop calling people inbred and retarded. I am sure he is neither of those. It weakens your argument and makes it look like you are frustrated when you cannot explain it well enough to get your point across. When people resort to name calling it deteriorates the conversation to me. You are one of the few on here I like discussing things with. Could care less if I change your mind or you change my mind. I like when someone I disagree with can fully explain their points openly.
I never like this argument--Why does one thing at a time have to be done? Walk AND chew gum. I want my gov't to work on more than one thing at a time. Of course, some issues are more important to some than other issues. Old folks worry about SS, poor folks FS, rich folks tax breaks, etc. I get it may not be main issue for most; but it is an issue that has to be delt with. Cannot swerve that is all I say.
I never like this argument--Why does one thing at a time have to be done? Walk AND chew gum. I want my gov't to work on more than one thing at a time. Of course, some issues are more important to some than other issues. Old folks worry about SS, poor folks FS, rich folks tax breaks, etc. I get it may not be main issue for most; but it is an issue that has to be delt with. Cannot swerve that is all I say.
What? I was talking about is strong arming the Mexican government not the Mexican people. I could care less if I was president if the Mexican government liked me. My job would be to please Americans. The Mexican government is more responsible for this mess because if they were doing their jobs to police their own borders to stop their own people from crossing into the US this wouldn’t even be a politicized issue.
I get that---just don't agree that it is effective longterm. BHO trying like crazy to make everyone like us and that isn't working either. But you cannot isolate a neighboring gov't and expect it to be a working solution. Just to sy you don't care what a leader of another country thinks is shaky ground. And you certainly can't just tell them what to do. I think it has to be more diplomatic than that.
What? I was talking about is strong arming the Mexican government not the Mexican people. I could care less if I was president if the Mexican government liked me. My job would be to please Americans. The Mexican government is more responsible for this mess because if they were doing their jobs to police their own borders to stop their own people from crossing into the US this wouldn’t even be a politicized issue.
I get that---just don't agree that it is effective longterm. BHO trying like crazy to make everyone like us and that isn't working either. But you cannot isolate a neighboring gov't and expect it to be a working solution. Just to sy you don't care what a leader of another country thinks is shaky ground. And you certainly can't just tell them what to do. I think it has to be more diplomatic than that.
Gary’s views are a little different than mine are...
He addresses the immigration issue in this YT video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItcpQTd3IyA
You can see more of his views on immigration here.
https://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Immigration.htm
I don't watch a lot of videos---but will check this out later and read the link as well. He does seem to have some nice ideas. So, will be interested in what he has to say. Maybe Perry has ideas also, don't know his views either. Thanks.
Gary’s views are a little different than mine are...
He addresses the immigration issue in this YT video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItcpQTd3IyA
You can see more of his views on immigration here.
https://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Immigration.htm
I don't watch a lot of videos---but will check this out later and read the link as well. He does seem to have some nice ideas. So, will be interested in what he has to say. Maybe Perry has ideas also, don't know his views either. Thanks.
Republicans feel they will vote Democratic. Get the fukk out ‘a here man... Really, you don’t say? I wonder why that is? I know the answer. I’m sure you know my answer already. Don’t just take my word for it. Go to a bar on the Hispanic side of town and ask the Hispanics why they don’t vote republican. Warning: Be prepared to hear a lot of loud cussing and racial slurs.
Yes--I DO say--nothing to with color---that is my point to you. If they thought Candians were gonna come down and vote Democratic, they would be against it as well. So we agree ---not racial.
Republicans feel they will vote Democratic. Get the fukk out ‘a here man... Really, you don’t say? I wonder why that is? I know the answer. I’m sure you know my answer already. Don’t just take my word for it. Go to a bar on the Hispanic side of town and ask the Hispanics why they don’t vote republican. Warning: Be prepared to hear a lot of loud cussing and racial slurs.
Yes--I DO say--nothing to with color---that is my point to you. If they thought Candians were gonna come down and vote Democratic, they would be against it as well. So we agree ---not racial.
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