In closing only twice ever in the entire history of the nhl has a non Canadian captain ever led his team to a Stanley Cup Championship. Every single leader of a championship team in the history of the nhl other than those two has been Canadian. The only Americans ever to do it were Derian Hatcher of the Dallas Stars and that took a goal scored that violated NHL rules. The other was Dustin Brown and don't get me started on that team's location and the NHL's affinity with it.
Analyze that!
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
In closing only twice ever in the entire history of the nhl has a non Canadian captain ever led his team to a Stanley Cup Championship. Every single leader of a championship team in the history of the nhl other than those two has been Canadian. The only Americans ever to do it were Derian Hatcher of the Dallas Stars and that took a goal scored that violated NHL rules. The other was Dustin Brown and don't get me started on that team's location and the NHL's affinity with it.
but in yesteryear they did attempt to keep the team french
in the early days of the NHL draft the Habs got the 1st pick of QMJL players no matter WHERE they finished. was in the contract with the league. means they would have had players like Mario Lemieux, Sidney Crosby and other top players from that league
but in yesteryear they did attempt to keep the team french
in the early days of the NHL draft the Habs got the 1st pick of QMJL players no matter WHERE they finished. was in the contract with the league. means they would have had players like Mario Lemieux, Sidney Crosby and other top players from that league
Not really the draft but you could control a player from when he was very young like how the Bruins got their hands on Bobby Orr when he was a just a young teen. The family of a 14 year old french canadian hockey player was just dying to have their son contracted to the Montreal Canadiens so no other teams really had a shot if the Habs wanted them. With the 1967 expansion and unions and etc the league changed and players got more power and young boys were no longer controlled from an early age. Gilbert Perreault was the first real great french canadian star not controlled by the Montreal Canadiens, that is when things began to change.
Ofcourse the habs would have more interest in trying to sign french canadian players and being in quebec their scouts has a better idea of who would be great and who not as they saw more of them from a very young age and before anyone else so it was only natural.
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
Not really the draft but you could control a player from when he was very young like how the Bruins got their hands on Bobby Orr when he was a just a young teen. The family of a 14 year old french canadian hockey player was just dying to have their son contracted to the Montreal Canadiens so no other teams really had a shot if the Habs wanted them. With the 1967 expansion and unions and etc the league changed and players got more power and young boys were no longer controlled from an early age. Gilbert Perreault was the first real great french canadian star not controlled by the Montreal Canadiens, that is when things began to change.
Ofcourse the habs would have more interest in trying to sign french canadian players and being in quebec their scouts has a better idea of who would be great and who not as they saw more of them from a very young age and before anyone else so it was only natural.
Nope. Thanks for the thoughts to everyone, but my original post is far from "ignorant."
Related questions:
1. For a great hockey country like Canada, why such agony for Canadian fans? Don't you think this just MIGHT have some marketing implications for the NHL? Impact sales? Hmmnn, um, well...
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
2. For a great hockey city like Toronto, and owners with deep pockets, why is the management so incompetent as to put Leafs fans through such agony?
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
3. From an overall league financial health viewpoint, which city is more important to the NHL...for example, Winnipeg or Tampa Bay?
I would argue Winnipeg.
I would argue that more team strength in Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than more team strength in Tampa Bay.
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe???
I will stop here for now...And await further comments...
Nope. Thanks for the thoughts to everyone, but my original post is far from "ignorant."
Related questions:
1. For a great hockey country like Canada, why such agony for Canadian fans? Don't you think this just MIGHT have some marketing implications for the NHL? Impact sales? Hmmnn, um, well...
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
2. For a great hockey city like Toronto, and owners with deep pockets, why is the management so incompetent as to put Leafs fans through such agony?
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
3. From an overall league financial health viewpoint, which city is more important to the NHL...for example, Winnipeg or Tampa Bay?
I would argue Winnipeg.
I would argue that more team strength in Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than more team strength in Tampa Bay.
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe???
I will stop here for now...And await further comments...
WHY ARE 90 PERCENT OF ALL AMERICANS FAT AND DUMB AND IGNORANT.
GO HABS GO
Hmmnnn...I basically complimented the Habs as being the only Canadian team to make the playoffs, and it sounds like you want to pick a fight with me...
WHY ARE 90 PERCENT OF ALL AMERICANS FAT AND DUMB AND IGNORANT.
GO HABS GO
Hmmnnn...I basically complimented the Habs as being the only Canadian team to make the playoffs, and it sounds like you want to pick a fight with me...
In closing only twice ever in the entire history of the nhl has a non Canadian captain ever led his team to a Stanley Cup Championship. Every single leader of a championship team in the history of the nhl other than those two has been Canadian. The only Americans ever to do it were Derian Hatcher of the Dallas Stars and that took a goal scored that violated NHL rules. The other was Dustin Brown and don't get me started on that team's location and the NHL's affinity with it.
Analyze that!
Interesting stat.. but also completely wrong: Chara and Lidstrom were also the captain of their team when they won the cup.
In closing only twice ever in the entire history of the nhl has a non Canadian captain ever led his team to a Stanley Cup Championship. Every single leader of a championship team in the history of the nhl other than those two has been Canadian. The only Americans ever to do it were Derian Hatcher of the Dallas Stars and that took a goal scored that violated NHL rules. The other was Dustin Brown and don't get me started on that team's location and the NHL's affinity with it.
Analyze that!
Interesting stat.. but also completely wrong: Chara and Lidstrom were also the captain of their team when they won the cup.
Nope. Thanks for the thoughts to everyone, but my original post is far from "ignorant."
Related questions:
1. For a great hockey country like Canada, why such agony for Canadian fans? Don't you think this just MIGHT have some marketing implications for the NHL? Impact sales? Hmmnn, um, well...
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
2. For a great hockey city like Toronto, and owners with deep pockets, why is the management so incompetent as to put Leafs fans through such agony?
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
3. From an overall league financial health viewpoint, which city is more important to the NHL...for example, Winnipeg or Tampa Bay?
I would argue Winnipeg.
I would argue that more team strength in Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than more team strength in Tampa Bay.
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe???
I will stop here for now...And await further comments...
My original question is an IMPORTANT one...
And its implications for the NHL.
Are these issues too sensitive a subject to discuss? If so, that is rather hilarious. I think these are quite relevant questions for the NHL to think about.
For example, I think the NHL would be better off getting rid of the 2 Florida teams and putting better players in Winnipeg and Edmonton, for example.
Is anyone on here REALLY going to call me "ignorant" or some other absurd insult for raising some interesting, relevant, and discuss-able point?
Or are some people here still in emotional denial about the incompetence of Leafs management? For the record, let me state that Leafs fans are arguably the best hockey fans in the world.
But are Leafs fans so "sensitive" that the legitimate questions I have raised in this thread are somehow "ignorant"??? Lolololol.!
Nope. Thanks for the thoughts to everyone, but my original post is far from "ignorant."
Related questions:
1. For a great hockey country like Canada, why such agony for Canadian fans? Don't you think this just MIGHT have some marketing implications for the NHL? Impact sales? Hmmnn, um, well...
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
2. For a great hockey city like Toronto, and owners with deep pockets, why is the management so incompetent as to put Leafs fans through such agony?
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
3. From an overall league financial health viewpoint, which city is more important to the NHL...for example, Winnipeg or Tampa Bay?
I would argue Winnipeg.
I would argue that more team strength in Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than more team strength in Tampa Bay.
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe???
I will stop here for now...And await further comments...
My original question is an IMPORTANT one...
And its implications for the NHL.
Are these issues too sensitive a subject to discuss? If so, that is rather hilarious. I think these are quite relevant questions for the NHL to think about.
For example, I think the NHL would be better off getting rid of the 2 Florida teams and putting better players in Winnipeg and Edmonton, for example.
Is anyone on here REALLY going to call me "ignorant" or some other absurd insult for raising some interesting, relevant, and discuss-able point?
Or are some people here still in emotional denial about the incompetence of Leafs management? For the record, let me state that Leafs fans are arguably the best hockey fans in the world.
But are Leafs fans so "sensitive" that the legitimate questions I have raised in this thread are somehow "ignorant"??? Lolololol.!
Surprisingly, the NHL’s change to a salary cap league, beginning in 2005, which was supposed to benefit previously low-revenue Canadian teams, has actually been one contributor. That switch coincided with the dollar shooting up to par, which suddenly made teams like Calgary and Vancouver wealthy and Montreal and Toronto obscenely wealthy.
But unlike previously, they couldn’t spend that wealth, and a lot of it wound up in revenue sharing for struggling American teams. Now, almost every team spends the same amount, with 23 NHL clubs dedicating $60-million or more to salaries this season, negating any real financial advantage Canada’s teams might have.
The other prevailing theory is that Canada’s teams have become too risk averse, with oft-meddling ownership and mediocre management dooming them to fall behind more innovative American teams. Because fans are guaranteed to fill their buildings and revenue is plentiful, Canadian teams simply aren’t always under the same pressures many American owners face, where their bottom line lives and dies with icing a contender instead of a consistently middling team.
One thing most of those teams all have in common is they built through the draft starting seven or eight years ago, back when Canadian teams were having success. With five of them now expected to pick in the top 10 this year, this could be the start of a new upward cycle, centred around the classes of 2014 and beyond.
Although, as the Oilers can attest, that doesn’t always work out as planned, either.
Surprisingly, the NHL’s change to a salary cap league, beginning in 2005, which was supposed to benefit previously low-revenue Canadian teams, has actually been one contributor. That switch coincided with the dollar shooting up to par, which suddenly made teams like Calgary and Vancouver wealthy and Montreal and Toronto obscenely wealthy.
But unlike previously, they couldn’t spend that wealth, and a lot of it wound up in revenue sharing for struggling American teams. Now, almost every team spends the same amount, with 23 NHL clubs dedicating $60-million or more to salaries this season, negating any real financial advantage Canada’s teams might have.
The other prevailing theory is that Canada’s teams have become too risk averse, with oft-meddling ownership and mediocre management dooming them to fall behind more innovative American teams. Because fans are guaranteed to fill their buildings and revenue is plentiful, Canadian teams simply aren’t always under the same pressures many American owners face, where their bottom line lives and dies with icing a contender instead of a consistently middling team.
One thing most of those teams all have in common is they built through the draft starting seven or eight years ago, back when Canadian teams were having success. With five of them now expected to pick in the top 10 this year, this could be the start of a new upward cycle, centred around the classes of 2014 and beyond.
Although, as the Oilers can attest, that doesn’t always work out as planned, either.
Nope. Thanks for the thoughts to everyone, but my original post is far from "ignorant."
Related questions:
1. For a great hockey country like Canada, why such agony for Canadian fans? Don't you think this just MIGHT have some marketing implications for the NHL? Impact sales? Hmmnn, um, well...
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
2. For a great hockey city like Toronto, and owners with deep pockets, why is the management so incompetent as to put Leafs fans through such agony?
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
3. From an overall league financial health viewpoint, which city is more important to the NHL...for example, Winnipeg or Tampa Bay?
I would argue Winnipeg.
I would argue that more team strength in Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than more team strength in Tampa Bay.
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe???
I will stop here for now...And await further comments...
My original question is an IMPORTANT one...
And its implications for the NHL.
Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than Tampa Bay??
Here let me break it down for you. Canadians will show up and watch hockey and fill arenas no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT> Example A..Toronto...Horrible product for decades, building is always rammed full, team has zero success, the team is always the richest team in the league. Their lack of success does zero to hurt the NHL but instead helps it because it makes room for some American team to get in and create some excitement in a sport otherwise perhaps not drawing much attention, or garnering any excitement otherwise. The Canadian based team will draw attention and garner excitement regardless of success.
If the American team sucks for too long the building is empty and the team folds which is the worst thing for a league. Teams folding shows weakness in the viability of a league.
So you're thinking is completely backward.
In closing the way you framed your question and or statment came off as ignorant and irrelevant to me, sorry just being honest, especially considering you are speaking from another country and not really aware of the political and cultural differences and biases between quebecois other provinces in Canada, which is unfortunate by the way. So statements like yours are probably a bit offside in my eyes as it's just stirring someone else's political pot.
It serves the economics of the NHL extremely well to have American teams have success as opposed to Canadian ones. No offence but this should not be hard to figure out.
Might be some typos so I digress time to head out. Be well.
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
Nope. Thanks for the thoughts to everyone, but my original post is far from "ignorant."
Related questions:
1. For a great hockey country like Canada, why such agony for Canadian fans? Don't you think this just MIGHT have some marketing implications for the NHL? Impact sales? Hmmnn, um, well...
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
2. For a great hockey city like Toronto, and owners with deep pockets, why is the management so incompetent as to put Leafs fans through such agony?
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe?
3. From an overall league financial health viewpoint, which city is more important to the NHL...for example, Winnipeg or Tampa Bay?
I would argue Winnipeg.
I would argue that more team strength in Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than more team strength in Tampa Bay.
Maybe a relevant question? Just maybe???
I will stop here for now...And await further comments...
My original question is an IMPORTANT one...
And its implications for the NHL.
Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than Tampa Bay??
Here let me break it down for you. Canadians will show up and watch hockey and fill arenas no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT> Example A..Toronto...Horrible product for decades, building is always rammed full, team has zero success, the team is always the richest team in the league. Their lack of success does zero to hurt the NHL but instead helps it because it makes room for some American team to get in and create some excitement in a sport otherwise perhaps not drawing much attention, or garnering any excitement otherwise. The Canadian based team will draw attention and garner excitement regardless of success.
If the American team sucks for too long the building is empty and the team folds which is the worst thing for a league. Teams folding shows weakness in the viability of a league.
So you're thinking is completely backward.
In closing the way you framed your question and or statment came off as ignorant and irrelevant to me, sorry just being honest, especially considering you are speaking from another country and not really aware of the political and cultural differences and biases between quebecois other provinces in Canada, which is unfortunate by the way. So statements like yours are probably a bit offside in my eyes as it's just stirring someone else's political pot.
It serves the economics of the NHL extremely well to have American teams have success as opposed to Canadian ones. No offence but this should not be hard to figure out.
Might be some typos so I digress time to head out. Be well.
Interesting stat.. but also completely wrong: Chara and Lidstrom were also the captain of their team when they won the cup.
Correct my buddy reminded me of this after I messaged you and I was caught up in your reference of Americans compared to Canadians so I overstepped in my thinking so pardon me for ommitting the two Europeans. Let me point out there were ZERO non Canadians until Bettman took over. And you're still talking 4 Captains out of how many? I'll let you do that math if you want.
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
Interesting stat.. but also completely wrong: Chara and Lidstrom were also the captain of their team when they won the cup.
Correct my buddy reminded me of this after I messaged you and I was caught up in your reference of Americans compared to Canadians so I overstepped in my thinking so pardon me for ommitting the two Europeans. Let me point out there were ZERO non Canadians until Bettman took over. And you're still talking 4 Captains out of how many? I'll let you do that math if you want.
Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than Tampa Bay??
Here let me break it down for you. Canadians will show up and watch hockey and fill arenas no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT> Example A..Toronto...Horrible product for decades, building is always rammed full, team has zero success, the team is always the richest team in the league. Their lack of success does zero to hurt the NHL but instead helps it because it makes room for some American team to get in and create some excitement in a sport otherwise perhaps not drawing much attention, or garnering any excitement otherwise. The Canadian based team will draw attention and garner excitement regardless of success.
If the American team sucks for too long the building is empty and the team folds which is the worst thing for a league. Teams folding shows weakness in the viability of a league.
So you're thinking is completely backward.
In closing the way you framed your question and or statment came off as ignorant and irrelevant to me, sorry just being honest, especially considering you are speaking from another country and not really aware of the political and cultural differences and biases between quebecois other provinces in Canada, which is unfortunate by the way. So statements like yours are probably a bit offside in my eyes as it's just stirring someone else's political pot.
It serves the economics of the NHL extremely well to have American teams have success as opposed to Canadian ones. No offence but this should not be hard to figure out.
Might be some typos so I digress time to head out. Be well.
Well said bro!
You learn more from losing than winning. You learn how to keep going.
Winnipeg is more important to the NHL than Tampa Bay??
Here let me break it down for you. Canadians will show up and watch hockey and fill arenas no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT> Example A..Toronto...Horrible product for decades, building is always rammed full, team has zero success, the team is always the richest team in the league. Their lack of success does zero to hurt the NHL but instead helps it because it makes room for some American team to get in and create some excitement in a sport otherwise perhaps not drawing much attention, or garnering any excitement otherwise. The Canadian based team will draw attention and garner excitement regardless of success.
If the American team sucks for too long the building is empty and the team folds which is the worst thing for a league. Teams folding shows weakness in the viability of a league.
So you're thinking is completely backward.
In closing the way you framed your question and or statment came off as ignorant and irrelevant to me, sorry just being honest, especially considering you are speaking from another country and not really aware of the political and cultural differences and biases between quebecois other provinces in Canada, which is unfortunate by the way. So statements like yours are probably a bit offside in my eyes as it's just stirring someone else's political pot.
It serves the economics of the NHL extremely well to have American teams have success as opposed to Canadian ones. No offence but this should not be hard to figure out.
Might be some typos so I digress time to head out. Be well.
And if you are referring to me it's pretty well know I HATE the leafs and am a HUGE Philadelphia Flyers fan and have been since I was 5 years old.
One of the reasons I loved and do love the Flyers is because they always had such a heavy Canadian content and often from Ontario.
In fact the last ALL CANADIAN team to win the stanley cup was the 1975 Philadelphia Flyers, something that will almost assuredly never happen again. Mind you the Duck of Anaheim came very close when they won they're cup, very close to an all Canadian roster.
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
And if you are referring to me it's pretty well know I HATE the leafs and am a HUGE Philadelphia Flyers fan and have been since I was 5 years old.
One of the reasons I loved and do love the Flyers is because they always had such a heavy Canadian content and often from Ontario.
In fact the last ALL CANADIAN team to win the stanley cup was the 1975 Philadelphia Flyers, something that will almost assuredly never happen again. Mind you the Duck of Anaheim came very close when they won they're cup, very close to an all Canadian roster.
If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so. It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly. Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality. Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it. As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.