Wtf? I didn’t think that was possible.
Yep. Some cats are pretty fearless.
Had a deaf cat in the neighborhood that could not hear the dogs bark and would go right after them.
Routinely went after a full grown German Shepherd.
Once they sink in their claws in the dog's snout for the first time -- the dog will be very wary after that.
Yep. Some cats are pretty fearless.
Had a deaf cat in the neighborhood that could not hear the dogs bark and would go right after them.
Routinely went after a full grown German Shepherd.
Once they sink in their claws in the dog's snout for the first time -- the dog will be very wary after that.
Years ago had a Sheltie/Beagle mix that would crush cats. Lived on a farm. This dog would never go toe to toe, rather she would get the cat out in the open and charge it a full speed. Just run right through the cat. Wish I had videos, something to see. The cat would be all hunched up ready to fight and that dog would hit it like a linebacker.
Years ago had a Sheltie/Beagle mix that would crush cats. Lived on a farm. This dog would never go toe to toe, rather she would get the cat out in the open and charge it a full speed. Just run right through the cat. Wish I had videos, something to see. The cat would be all hunched up ready to fight and that dog would hit it like a linebacker.
If it was part Sheltie, maybe it was simply trying to herd the cats. Just aggressively.
If it was part Sheltie, maybe it was simply trying to herd the cats. Just aggressively.
The first time it happened I thought oh shit, dog is going to get messed up bad, vet here we come. But she just ran it over, both tumbled and the cat took off running and she gave chase.
Had a horse barn and often hung horse blankets to dry on stall doors. These male cats would come over and spray the blankets. Stink like hell. That dog did a great job keeping those stink machines away.
The first time it happened I thought oh shit, dog is going to get messed up bad, vet here we come. But she just ran it over, both tumbled and the cat took off running and she gave chase.
Had a horse barn and often hung horse blankets to dry on stall doors. These male cats would come over and spray the blankets. Stink like hell. That dog did a great job keeping those stink machines away.
My dog would bark and chase deer off the property for about 3 years. One day, one deer had enough of his crap and went after him.
Now he just barks from the deck up to and including cats.
My dog would bark and chase deer off the property for about 3 years. One day, one deer had enough of his crap and went after him.
Now he just barks from the deck up to and including cats.
Cats are just more aggressive than dogs (psychos) they are fighting like they are fighting for their lives where dogs are more like - “I don’t like that thing I want to beat it up ! “ - it is the same if you are ever attacked by a group of people - if you know who of those is most psychotic take that guy out first he is 1000 times more dangerous than the guy that is double his size - go like who of these will jump on my head or knife me when I am already down on the ground — that is the human equalient to a cat
Cats are just more aggressive than dogs (psychos) they are fighting like they are fighting for their lives where dogs are more like - “I don’t like that thing I want to beat it up ! “ - it is the same if you are ever attacked by a group of people - if you know who of those is most psychotic take that guy out first he is 1000 times more dangerous than the guy that is double his size - go like who of these will jump on my head or knife me when I am already down on the ground — that is the human equalient to a cat
Cats haven't been domesticated in the same way as dogs. Dogs have had their predator/prey drive all but completely bred out of them. And even wolves are more communal than most cat societies, where competition for top position more of a factor. Dogs, by nature, are generally docile, and only show aggression in protection of their human couterparts. Staffies, a bully breed related to Pit Bulls, are known as nanny dogs because of their natural love if children. Really all bully breeds, if not bred for fighting, are jovial and loving. This is also true of "scary" breeds like Cane Corsos and Presa Canarios are also super loving and attached to their owners. Unless trained to be aggressive, they also will usually only show aggression in protection of their human family.
Cats have never been fully domesticated, and have therefore never lost their predator/prey drive. They have never lost their aggression, nor their independent nature. Domesticated dogs often times don't sense danger, they don't sense tension. They're aware of the smoke. Cats want all the smoke. They have never lost the notion that they are in a constant fight for their survival, even while being completely pampered. They are willing to claw for it. Dogs will kill things to. Gophers, squirrels, etc. Usually they do so, in their dog minds, to appease their owners.
Cats haven't been domesticated in the same way as dogs. Dogs have had their predator/prey drive all but completely bred out of them. And even wolves are more communal than most cat societies, where competition for top position more of a factor. Dogs, by nature, are generally docile, and only show aggression in protection of their human couterparts. Staffies, a bully breed related to Pit Bulls, are known as nanny dogs because of their natural love if children. Really all bully breeds, if not bred for fighting, are jovial and loving. This is also true of "scary" breeds like Cane Corsos and Presa Canarios are also super loving and attached to their owners. Unless trained to be aggressive, they also will usually only show aggression in protection of their human family.
Cats have never been fully domesticated, and have therefore never lost their predator/prey drive. They have never lost their aggression, nor their independent nature. Domesticated dogs often times don't sense danger, they don't sense tension. They're aware of the smoke. Cats want all the smoke. They have never lost the notion that they are in a constant fight for their survival, even while being completely pampered. They are willing to claw for it. Dogs will kill things to. Gophers, squirrels, etc. Usually they do so, in their dog minds, to appease their owners.
I often see this take, and I feel like it developed somewhere, at some point, from a person who never actually fought anyone. If i'm fighting a group, sure, if a guy has a weapon, that becomes the priority. Outside of that, and outside of someone having extensive fight sport training, especially any form of grappling/wrestling, outside of all that, i'm more focused on the 270 pound pacifist more than the 135 pound psychotic spider monkey. I'm gonna absolutely destroy the spider monkey. The behemoth is going to pose a problem whether he wants to fight, or even knows how. I'd rather take a punch from the 135 pounder who knows how to snap his hips into it than to take a club from one of those hams at the end of the behemoth's arms, even if he's never thrown a punch in his life.
I often see this take, and I feel like it developed somewhere, at some point, from a person who never actually fought anyone. If i'm fighting a group, sure, if a guy has a weapon, that becomes the priority. Outside of that, and outside of someone having extensive fight sport training, especially any form of grappling/wrestling, outside of all that, i'm more focused on the 270 pound pacifist more than the 135 pound psychotic spider monkey. I'm gonna absolutely destroy the spider monkey. The behemoth is going to pose a problem whether he wants to fight, or even knows how. I'd rather take a punch from the 135 pounder who knows how to snap his hips into it than to take a club from one of those hams at the end of the behemoth's arms, even if he's never thrown a punch in his life.
If you are attacked by a group of people you are not going to win (unless they are fucking weak) if you are the biggest meanest motherfucker you can maybe win a 1 vs 3 if they are pretty weak - anymore than that is impossible - so you remove the guy that will kill you rather than just hurt you - that is pretty logical imo
If you are attacked by a group of people you are not going to win (unless they are fucking weak) if you are the biggest meanest motherfucker you can maybe win a 1 vs 3 if they are pretty weak - anymore than that is impossible - so you remove the guy that will kill you rather than just hurt you - that is pretty logical imo
It's not logical at all. Do you have prior knowledge of these guys. Are they old acquaintances? Did they fill out a survey? There's no way of knowing who is likely to kill you. The risk of death when confronted by a group is always high, even if they don't intend it, simply because of the risk of a head injury from falling. There's no singling out the guy most likely to kill you, or more likely to he overly aggressive, unless you know them.
It's not logical at all. Do you have prior knowledge of these guys. Are they old acquaintances? Did they fill out a survey? There's no way of knowing who is likely to kill you. The risk of death when confronted by a group is always high, even if they don't intend it, simply because of the risk of a head injury from falling. There's no singling out the guy most likely to kill you, or more likely to he overly aggressive, unless you know them.
But I did say in my first post that you had that knowledge ? But it was basically just used as an instrument to explain that cats fight with different “rules” than a dog does when they go 1v1 - a dog doesn’t go into that fight with the intend to hurt to the same degree
But I did say in my first post that you had that knowledge ? But it was basically just used as an instrument to explain that cats fight with different “rules” than a dog does when they go 1v1 - a dog doesn’t go into that fight with the intend to hurt to the same degree
Wasn't disagreeing with your main point. I actually added to it above, except from the position of evolutionary behavior. There are no rules of engagement in the wild, just like there are no rules of engagement in a street fight. And no way of knowing how any individual person will react to confrontation based on whatever tendencies they are displaying. Often the person acting crazy/erratic is just that, acting. You can predict how dogs/cats will act though, based on their respective evolutionary paths. Most cats, by nature, are solitary, being solely responsible for their feeding, and their protection. This makes them naturally aggressive. By contrast, all extant canids are communal. Cats wake up everyday and choose violence. Dogs, and even wolves, do not. I'd probably take my chances with a lone wolf over a similarly sized cougar any day, though I have encountered multiple cougars, and even black bears in the wild, but never a wolf.
Wasn't disagreeing with your main point. I actually added to it above, except from the position of evolutionary behavior. There are no rules of engagement in the wild, just like there are no rules of engagement in a street fight. And no way of knowing how any individual person will react to confrontation based on whatever tendencies they are displaying. Often the person acting crazy/erratic is just that, acting. You can predict how dogs/cats will act though, based on their respective evolutionary paths. Most cats, by nature, are solitary, being solely responsible for their feeding, and their protection. This makes them naturally aggressive. By contrast, all extant canids are communal. Cats wake up everyday and choose violence. Dogs, and even wolves, do not. I'd probably take my chances with a lone wolf over a similarly sized cougar any day, though I have encountered multiple cougars, and even black bears in the wild, but never a wolf.
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