Last week a Mother was shot and killed in a road rage incident and initial reports had us believe she was a loving Mother who did nothing wrong and was needlessly gunned down by a man with road rage. Story below
Today a different story has emerged. The Mother was not so innocent. She was illegally teaching her unlicensed Daughter to drive and when she was the victim of abuse by another driver, she drove home and got her Son and his gun and went vigilante, searching the neighborhood for the abusive driver. She obviously found him but unluckily for her he was also packing heat. Second story sure paints Mom in a different light from the original one.
Last week a Mother was shot and killed in a road rage incident and initial reports had us believe she was a loving Mother who did nothing wrong and was needlessly gunned down by a man with road rage. Story below
Today a different story has emerged. The Mother was not so innocent. She was illegally teaching her unlicensed Daughter to drive and when she was the victim of abuse by another driver, she drove home and got her Son and his gun and went vigilante, searching the neighborhood for the abusive driver. She obviously found him but unluckily for her he was also packing heat. Second story sure paints Mom in a different light from the original one.
None of it matters in a court of law. The shooter is up for murder one but I agree with you, her thought process was gone.
PD will argue self defense but he'll do 25 to life, maybe death row.
Obviously the shooter deserves to be punished but as you said, no doubt a plea of self-defense will be entered. That could well end up being a valid defense? The Mother and Daughter did follow him around for a few minutes before allegedly getting bored and going home. Who is to say that the Son didn't brandish his gun as a sign of intimidation.
The second story sure paints a different story of the loving Mother. Not only was she breaking the law teaching her unlicensed Daughter to drive on City streets, she then goes home and endangers her Son's life by dragging him into a potential gun fight that was none of his business.
I'll be very interested to see if any unbiased witnesses come forward and add more to this story because at the moment it seems like the only witnesses are family members and they are extremely unreliable and perhaps also covering up additional/potential crimes of their own.
The plot is definitely thickening. We need Gil Grissom to come out of retirement for this one.
None of it matters in a court of law. The shooter is up for murder one but I agree with you, her thought process was gone.
PD will argue self defense but he'll do 25 to life, maybe death row.
Obviously the shooter deserves to be punished but as you said, no doubt a plea of self-defense will be entered. That could well end up being a valid defense? The Mother and Daughter did follow him around for a few minutes before allegedly getting bored and going home. Who is to say that the Son didn't brandish his gun as a sign of intimidation.
The second story sure paints a different story of the loving Mother. Not only was she breaking the law teaching her unlicensed Daughter to drive on City streets, she then goes home and endangers her Son's life by dragging him into a potential gun fight that was none of his business.
I'll be very interested to see if any unbiased witnesses come forward and add more to this story because at the moment it seems like the only witnesses are family members and they are extremely unreliable and perhaps also covering up additional/potential crimes of their own.
The plot is definitely thickening. We need Gil Grissom to come out of retirement for this one.
How many rounds were missing from her son's weapon? Right, none. Did they return to their home without incident? Yes. Did the shooter pursue them? Yes. Did shooter fire his weapon with intent to kill? Yeah.. Did he think about that decision to fire? Yuuup.
Capture, trial, murder one. Maybe a plea to II if his lwayer is any good. Not much to to talk about.
How many rounds were missing from her son's weapon? Right, none. Did they return to their home without incident? Yes. Did the shooter pursue them? Yes. Did shooter fire his weapon with intent to kill? Yeah.. Did he think about that decision to fire? Yuuup.
Capture, trial, murder one. Maybe a plea to II if his lwayer is any good. Not much to to talk about.
Robert Meyers told reporters that Tammy Meyers, 44, was driving home
after letting her daughter take the wheel of the family's green Buick
Park Avenue in a nearby school parking lot when a silver four-door sedan
that had been following them passed and hit the brakes.
Tammy
Meyers steered around the car and continued driving home. Meyers said
she sent their youngest daughter into the house before the shooting. He
described the girl as emotionally distraught.
Meyers said their
adult son emerged from their house and fired several shots with a
handgun at the fleeing car. He told his father there were three people
in the car.
The Father quoted above wan't in Las Vegas when shooting happened. I wonder if the Daughter/Son or whoever made the initial police statement might now be charged with making a false statement. If you read the police statement from last week what the initial witness said happened was a lot different to what actually happened.
Robert Meyers told reporters that Tammy Meyers, 44, was driving home
after letting her daughter take the wheel of the family's green Buick
Park Avenue in a nearby school parking lot when a silver four-door sedan
that had been following them passed and hit the brakes.
Tammy
Meyers steered around the car and continued driving home. Meyers said
she sent their youngest daughter into the house before the shooting. He
described the girl as emotionally distraught.
Meyers said their
adult son emerged from their house and fired several shots with a
handgun at the fleeing car. He told his father there were three people
in the car.
The Father quoted above wan't in Las Vegas when shooting happened. I wonder if the Daughter/Son or whoever made the initial police statement might now be charged with making a false statement. If you read the police statement from last week what the initial witness said happened was a lot different to what actually happened.
This is why it's important to not blindly accept or believe the headlines and the feeds. Many times important details are sacrificed for an appealing headline.
This is why it's important to not blindly accept or believe the headlines and the feeds. Many times important details are sacrificed for an appealing headline.
How many rounds were missing from her son's weapon? Right, none. Did they return to their home without incident? Yes. Did the shooter pursue them? Yes. Did shooter fire his weapon with intent to kill? Yeah.. Did he think about that decision to fire? Yuuup.
Capture, trial, murder one. Maybe a plea to II if his lwayer is any good. Not much to to talk about.
Husband Robert Meyers, who was in Southern California at the time of the
shooting, said Friday that his son, Brandon Meyers, told him he
believed there were three people in the car and his shots with a 9mm
handgun hit the car at least once.
Search, the Son did let off some rounds at the car. It is in the second story. Police are actually looking for a car with bullet holes in it because the Son fired at the car and hit it at least once with the shots ( plural ) he fired.
What we need to know is who shot first and where the initial shots were fired. Mother and Son did follow and find the shooter before returning home. What needs to be established is where the first shots were fired and by whom.
How many rounds were missing from her son's weapon? Right, none. Did they return to their home without incident? Yes. Did the shooter pursue them? Yes. Did shooter fire his weapon with intent to kill? Yeah.. Did he think about that decision to fire? Yuuup.
Capture, trial, murder one. Maybe a plea to II if his lwayer is any good. Not much to to talk about.
Husband Robert Meyers, who was in Southern California at the time of the
shooting, said Friday that his son, Brandon Meyers, told him he
believed there were three people in the car and his shots with a 9mm
handgun hit the car at least once.
Search, the Son did let off some rounds at the car. It is in the second story. Police are actually looking for a car with bullet holes in it because the Son fired at the car and hit it at least once with the shots ( plural ) he fired.
What we need to know is who shot first and where the initial shots were fired. Mother and Son did follow and find the shooter before returning home. What needs to be established is where the first shots were fired and by whom.
Obviously the Daughter/Son who made the initial statement did plenty of lying so I would be interested to see if they get charged with making a false statement.
1) The original statement said the Mother was teaching the daughter how to drive in a school car park.
This has since been proven to be false.
2) The shooter came from behind their car, went around and in front of them and then hit the breaks sharply.
This did NOT happen.
3) The Mother drove around the car and continued driving home. She then sent the Daughter into the home before the shooting took place.
This did not happen. The car did not follow her home immediately. The Mother went home and got her Son and his gun and went looking for the other car. They followed the other car and after some time ( unknown ) decided to go home.
From there it gets even fuzzier. As I said previously, what needs to be established is where the initial shots took place and who fired first. The Son and Daughter are obviously terrible witnesses and lied in the initial statement. Hopefully some unbiased and truthful witnesses come forward but the second story definitely makes the Mother ( and Family ) look a little unhinged. While she was a victim she most definitely was not an innocent or helpless one.
Obviously the Daughter/Son who made the initial statement did plenty of lying so I would be interested to see if they get charged with making a false statement.
1) The original statement said the Mother was teaching the daughter how to drive in a school car park.
This has since been proven to be false.
2) The shooter came from behind their car, went around and in front of them and then hit the breaks sharply.
This did NOT happen.
3) The Mother drove around the car and continued driving home. She then sent the Daughter into the home before the shooting took place.
This did not happen. The car did not follow her home immediately. The Mother went home and got her Son and his gun and went looking for the other car. They followed the other car and after some time ( unknown ) decided to go home.
From there it gets even fuzzier. As I said previously, what needs to be established is where the initial shots took place and who fired first. The Son and Daughter are obviously terrible witnesses and lied in the initial statement. Hopefully some unbiased and truthful witnesses come forward but the second story definitely makes the Mother ( and Family ) look a little unhinged. While she was a victim she most definitely was not an innocent or helpless one.
Husband Robert Meyers, who was in Southern California at the time of the shooting, said Friday that his son, Brandon Meyers, told him he believed there were three people in the car and his shots with a 9mm handgun hit the car at least once.
Search, the Son did let off some rounds at the car. It is in the second story. Police are actually looking for a car with bullet holes in it because the Son fired at the car and hit it at least once with the shots ( plural ) he fired.
What we need to know is who shot first and where the initial shots were fired. Mother and Son did follow and find the shooter before returning home. What needs to be established is where the first shots were fired and by whom.
That definitely changes everything I think. Then again, I'm drunk......again.
They draw some tox blood from the dead lady? I don't mean to sound insensitive but something tells me a schedul 1 drug might be involved here. Detox knows all about that stuff.
Husband Robert Meyers, who was in Southern California at the time of the shooting, said Friday that his son, Brandon Meyers, told him he believed there were three people in the car and his shots with a 9mm handgun hit the car at least once.
Search, the Son did let off some rounds at the car. It is in the second story. Police are actually looking for a car with bullet holes in it because the Son fired at the car and hit it at least once with the shots ( plural ) he fired.
What we need to know is who shot first and where the initial shots were fired. Mother and Son did follow and find the shooter before returning home. What needs to be established is where the first shots were fired and by whom.
That definitely changes everything I think. Then again, I'm drunk......again.
They draw some tox blood from the dead lady? I don't mean to sound insensitive but something tells me a schedul 1 drug might be involved here. Detox knows all about that stuff.
The one little thing you all are missing.. If the son didn't own a gun, or the mother didn't allow the son to own a gun, the mother would be alive. And the son has to live with that the rest of his life.
Furthermore , if the killer didn't own a gun. He would not have ruined his life.
The fact of the matter is... More gun owner are killed accidently, or in the heat of an argument, than saved themselves from a perpetrator .
The one little thing you all are missing.. If the son didn't own a gun, or the mother didn't allow the son to own a gun, the mother would be alive. And the son has to live with that the rest of his life.
Furthermore , if the killer didn't own a gun. He would not have ruined his life.
The fact of the matter is... More gun owner are killed accidently, or in the heat of an argument, than saved themselves from a perpetrator .
The one little thing you all are missing.. If the son didn't own a gun, or the mother didn't allow the son to own a gun, the mother would be alive. And the son has to live with that the rest of his life.
Furthermore , if the killer didn't own a gun. He would not have ruined his life.
The fact of the matter is... More gun owner are killed accidently, or in the heat of an argument, than saved themselves from a perpetrator .
Bingo.
I never met a hater better than me. I am on twitter
The one little thing you all are missing.. If the son didn't own a gun, or the mother didn't allow the son to own a gun, the mother would be alive. And the son has to live with that the rest of his life.
Furthermore , if the killer didn't own a gun. He would not have ruined his life.
The fact of the matter is... More gun owner are killed accidently, or in the heat of an argument, than saved themselves from a perpetrator .
The one little thing you all are missing.. If the son didn't own a gun, or the mother didn't allow the son to own a gun, the mother would be alive. And the son has to live with that the rest of his life.
Furthermore , if the killer didn't own a gun. He would not have ruined his life.
The fact of the matter is... More gun owner are killed accidently, or in the heat of an argument, than saved themselves from a perpetrator .
I concede that all might be true
However the idiocy of some shouldn't mean the loss of rights by everyone
Some may criticize this as pure conjecture, but I would say many crimes are never committed because of a potential criminal's fear of someone having a gun. Those videos of flash mobs and beating of random drivers? You don't hear much about that in places where your average person probably has a gun in their glove compartment.
The one little thing you all are missing.. If the son didn't own a gun, or the mother didn't allow the son to own a gun, the mother would be alive. And the son has to live with that the rest of his life.
Furthermore , if the killer didn't own a gun. He would not have ruined his life.
The fact of the matter is... More gun owner are killed accidently, or in the heat of an argument, than saved themselves from a perpetrator .
I concede that all might be true
However the idiocy of some shouldn't mean the loss of rights by everyone
Some may criticize this as pure conjecture, but I would say many crimes are never committed because of a potential criminal's fear of someone having a gun. Those videos of flash mobs and beating of random drivers? You don't hear much about that in places where your average person probably has a gun in their glove compartment.
The one little thing you all are missing.. If the son didn't own a gun, or the mother didn't allow the son to own a gun, the mother would be alive. And the son has to live with that the rest of his life.
Furthermore , if the killer didn't own a gun. He would not have ruined his life.
The fact of the matter is... More gun owner are killed accidently, or in the heat of an argument, than saved themselves from a perpetrator .
ok, smart guy, what if a third good guy with a gun was there to stop the second good guy with a gun who was there to stop the first good woman with a gun?
The one little thing you all are missing.. If the son didn't own a gun, or the mother didn't allow the son to own a gun, the mother would be alive. And the son has to live with that the rest of his life.
Furthermore , if the killer didn't own a gun. He would not have ruined his life.
The fact of the matter is... More gun owner are killed accidently, or in the heat of an argument, than saved themselves from a perpetrator .
ok, smart guy, what if a third good guy with a gun was there to stop the second good guy with a gun who was there to stop the first good woman with a gun?
ok, smart guy, what if a third good guy with a gun was there to stop the second good guy with a gun who was there to stop the first good woman with a gun?
Or what if the neighbor had a 300 round military weapon and was patrolling the area in anticipation of combat?
ok, smart guy, what if a third good guy with a gun was there to stop the second good guy with a gun who was there to stop the first good woman with a gun?
Or what if the neighbor had a 300 round military weapon and was patrolling the area in anticipation of combat?
However the idiocy of some shouldn't mean the loss of rights by everyone
Some may criticize this as pure conjecture, but I would say many crimes are never committed because of a potential criminal's fear of someone having a gun. Those videos of flash mobs and beating of random drivers? You don't hear much about that in places where your average person probably has a gun in their glove compartment.
Exactly. And there would be a lot less death on the roads if we just took everyone's driving privileges away.
We have reckless drivers just like we have reckless gun owners. I know approximately 10 people who carry a firearm regularly. They would be the LAST person who would ever get involved in a shooting if they had ANY OTHER CHOICE. Responsible gun owners are not looking for a fight...they are looking to avoid a fight.
I will tell you one thing...I never, EVER get in a heated argument with anyone....NEVER respond if someone gives me the finger on the road or cuts me off.
Let's face it, the true criminals don't care. But the people who want to do the right thing do care. Why punish them?
And lest we forget, the bad guys are ALWAYS going to find a way to get a weapon if they want one. Why punish the good guys?
BTW, I am more than fine with looking at the assault weapon issue. That is a little different animal for ME anyway.
However the idiocy of some shouldn't mean the loss of rights by everyone
Some may criticize this as pure conjecture, but I would say many crimes are never committed because of a potential criminal's fear of someone having a gun. Those videos of flash mobs and beating of random drivers? You don't hear much about that in places where your average person probably has a gun in their glove compartment.
Exactly. And there would be a lot less death on the roads if we just took everyone's driving privileges away.
We have reckless drivers just like we have reckless gun owners. I know approximately 10 people who carry a firearm regularly. They would be the LAST person who would ever get involved in a shooting if they had ANY OTHER CHOICE. Responsible gun owners are not looking for a fight...they are looking to avoid a fight.
I will tell you one thing...I never, EVER get in a heated argument with anyone....NEVER respond if someone gives me the finger on the road or cuts me off.
Let's face it, the true criminals don't care. But the people who want to do the right thing do care. Why punish them?
And lest we forget, the bad guys are ALWAYS going to find a way to get a weapon if they want one. Why punish the good guys?
BTW, I am more than fine with looking at the assault weapon issue. That is a little different animal for ME anyway.
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