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Away:  Arizona [1-0 ATS]
Home:  Oklahoma State [0-1 ATS]

Game Time: 8:00 PM
Stadium: Boone Pickens Stadium

Recent Meetings:
12/29/10 - ARZ 10 vs. OKLST 36

Team Leaders:

Arizona:
Passing: Nick Foles (412)
Rushing: Ka'Deem Carey (59)
Receiving: Juron Criner (151)

Oklahoma State:
Passing: Brandon Weeden (388)
Rushing: Joseph Randle (129)
Receiving: Justin Blackmon (144)

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Away:  Arizona [1-0 ATS]
Home:  Oklahoma State [0-1 ATS]

Game Time: 8:00 PM
Stadium: Boone Pickens Stadium

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12/29/10 - ARZ 10 vs. OKLST 36

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Arizona:
Passing: Nick Foles (412)
Rushing: Ka'Deem Carey (59)
Receiving: Juron Criner (151)

Oklahoma State:
Passing: Brandon Weeden (388)
Rushing: Joseph Randle (129)
Receiving: Justin Blackmon (144)

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Posted: Sep. 6, 2011 - 5:49 PM ET #2

This Zona team is no one to take lightly!!!  I know the Cowboys are a lot of people's little favorite this year.....but they have been like that since Dez Bryant roamed the deep posts there and never really backed it up........fact is they don't have D!!!!!!!  No D and your spotting a Stoops brother who has D and a darn solid QB himself in Foles!?!?!?  Yeah, I'll take the 14 points here. 
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This Zona team is no one to take lightly!!!  I know the Cowboys are a lot of people's little favorite this year.....but they have been like that since Dez Bryant roamed the deep posts there and never really backed it up........fact is they don't have D!!!!!!!  No D and your spotting a Stoops brother who has D and a darn solid QB himself in Foles!?!?!?  Yeah, I'll take the 14 points here. 
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Irisheyez] This Zona team is no one to take lightly!!!  I know the Cowboys are a lot of people's little favorite this year.....but they have been like that since Dez Bryant roamed the deep posts there and never really backed it up........fact is they don't have D!!!!!!!  No D and your spotting a Stoops brother who has D and a darn solid QB himself in Foles!?!?!?  Yeah, I'll take the 14 points here. 

100% agree!! 
ULL put up 24 second half points last week on the Cowboy D.  A better overall team and much better QB for Arizona this week.
Arizona +14 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Irisheyez] This Zona team is no one to take lightly!!!  I know the Cowboys are a lot of people's little favorite this year.....but they have been like that since Dez Bryant roamed the deep posts there and never really backed it up........fact is they don't have D!!!!!!!  No D and your spotting a Stoops brother who has D and a darn solid QB himself in Foles!?!?!?  Yeah, I'll take the 14 points here. 

100% agree!! 
ULL put up 24 second half points last week on the Cowboy D.  A better overall team and much better QB for Arizona this week.
Arizona +14 
GLTA!!

 
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   The Cowboys put up a pathetic defensive effort against UL Lafayette last game. Could easily make a case against a Wildcat team that has done poorly (ATS) on the road against non-conference opponents. While I see a Cowboy SU win, I have grave doubts about them covering by 14 points!  For me- a NO PLAY! (There are better games on the card)
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   The Cowboys put up a pathetic defensive effort against UL Lafayette last game. Could easily make a case against a Wildcat team that has done poorly (ATS) on the road against non-conference opponents. While I see a Cowboy SU win, I have grave doubts about them covering by 14 points!  For me- a NO PLAY! (There are better games on the card)
 
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Posted: Sep. 6, 2011 - 7:14 PM ET #5

Waiting for the total to come out .......  No way I lay 14 the way the Cowboys play defense.  If I have to choose a side I'd take the 14 and Zona !  

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Waiting for the total to come out .......  No way I lay 14 the way the Cowboys play defense.  If I have to choose a side I'd take the 14 and Zona !  

BOLTA  
 
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Posted: Sep. 6, 2011 - 7:50 PM ET #6

hmmm im not guna lie.. Dfense or not.. i am thinking the over!!!!..... at least 56 
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hmmm im not guna lie.. Dfense or not.. i am thinking the over!!!!..... at least 56 
 
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Posted: Sep. 6, 2011 - 8:31 PM ET #7

LOST WISKY BY 1/2

LOST MIAMI LAST 50 SECONDS

WIN SANFORD

TAKING THE 14 POINTS !!!

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LOST WISKY BY 1/2

LOST MIAMI LAST 50 SECONDS

WIN SANFORD

TAKING THE 14 POINTS !!!

 
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Posted: Sep. 6, 2011 - 9:34 PM ET #8

my input.... 

foles is scrappy just like sanchez.. if he stays 100% healthy this team will be pretty decent... 

osu... they are monsters... they have a lot of talent.. 

not saying i know a lot about these teams... but arizona even with stoops isnt all that... at least not against a high power offense like this. and osu's defense is being under rated... 


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my input.... 

foles is scrappy just like sanchez.. if he stays 100% healthy this team will be pretty decent... 

osu... they are monsters... they have a lot of talent.. 

not saying i know a lot about these teams... but arizona even with stoops isnt all that... at least not against a high power offense like this. and osu's defense is being under rated... 


 
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Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

   The Cowboys put up a pathetic defensive effort against UL Lafayette last game. Could easily make a case against a Wildcat team that has done poorly (ATS) on the road against non-conference opponents. While I see a Cowboy SU win, I have grave doubts about them covering by 14 points!  For me- a NO PLAY! (There are better games on the card)

Good point Vue, I'll be on the Over if its 64 or lower. If ULL can score 34 on the Cowboys the Wildcats should put at least that # up and more!  Thursday night is Stillwater, maybe the Cowboys can cover 14 points?  I'm not betting either way, but for a pick here at covers I'm leaning Zona +14. 

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Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

   The Cowboys put up a pathetic defensive effort against UL Lafayette last game. Could easily make a case against a Wildcat team that has done poorly (ATS) on the road against non-conference opponents. While I see a Cowboy SU win, I have grave doubts about them covering by 14 points!  For me- a NO PLAY! (There are better games on the card)

Good point Vue, I'll be on the Over if its 64 or lower. If ULL can score 34 on the Cowboys the Wildcats should put at least that # up and more!  Thursday night is Stillwater, maybe the Cowboys can cover 14 points?  I'm not betting either way, but for a pick here at covers I'm leaning Zona +14. 

BOL  
 
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Posted: Sep. 6, 2011 - 11:59 PM ET #10

I like OSU -14 here.. Arizona plays poorly on the road and OSU at home on a Thursday will be a tough place to play at..
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I like OSU -14 here.. Arizona plays poorly on the road and OSU at home on a Thursday will be a tough place to play at..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by fed6674:

Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

This Zona team is no one to take lightly!!!  I know the Cowboys are a lot of people's little favorite this year.....but they have been like that since Dez Bryant roamed the deep posts there and never really backed it up........fact is they don't have D!!!!!!!  No D and your spotting a Stoops brother who has D and a darn solid QB himself in Foles!?!?!?  Yeah, I'll take the 14 points here. 

100% agree!! 
ULL put up 24 second half points last week on the Cowboy D.  A better overall team and much better QB for Arizona this week.
Arizona +14 
GLTA!!

just wanted you to know that those points were put up against their 2nd team d and the 1st team only allowed 173 yards and 2 field goals against them while arizona's 1st team d allowed 16 straight completions at 1 time to a worse team.

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Quote Originally Posted by fed6674:

Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

This Zona team is no one to take lightly!!!  I know the Cowboys are a lot of people's little favorite this year.....but they have been like that since Dez Bryant roamed the deep posts there and never really backed it up........fact is they don't have D!!!!!!!  No D and your spotting a Stoops brother who has D and a darn solid QB himself in Foles!?!?!?  Yeah, I'll take the 14 points here. 

100% agree!! 
ULL put up 24 second half points last week on the Cowboy D.  A better overall team and much better QB for Arizona this week.
Arizona +14 
GLTA!!

just wanted you to know that those points were put up against their 2nd team d and the 1st team only allowed 173 yards and 2 field goals against them while arizona's 1st team d allowed 16 straight completions at 1 time to a worse team.

 
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Feelin your pain. Same for me kid. Arizona not great on the road kind of like hawaii. Take the points and a scorefest. Ok St and OV for the large.

 

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Feelin your pain. Same for me kid. Arizona not great on the road kind of like hawaii. Take the points and a scorefest. Ok St and OV for the large.

 

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LOST WISKY BY 1/2

LOST MIAMI LAST 50 SECONDS

WIN SANFORD

TAKING THE 14 POINTS !!!

 
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1st time poster and UofA fan. 

Couple things to keep in mind here.  The UofA secondary is poor, with our top two secondary players out with injuries.  Combine that with the fact that NAU posted 15 consecutive...15...passes against the 'Cats secondary in the 1st half of last week's game--not looking good for a team that was completely dominated vs. the same OSU team last year via Weeden/Blackmon.

Lastly, UofA's top receiver missed practice today who is our only real threat on O. Without him, Foles struggles.  Still think UofA can post some points, would lean over but as a level-headed UofA fan I would take OSU + points if it wasn't sacrilege to bet against your own team.  Keep on eye on whether Criner plays and BOL. 

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1st time poster and UofA fan. 

Couple things to keep in mind here.  The UofA secondary is poor, with our top two secondary players out with injuries.  Combine that with the fact that NAU posted 15 consecutive...15...passes against the 'Cats secondary in the 1st half of last week's game--not looking good for a team that was completely dominated vs. the same OSU team last year via Weeden/Blackmon.

Lastly, UofA's top receiver missed practice today who is our only real threat on O. Without him, Foles struggles.  Still think UofA can post some points, would lean over but as a level-headed UofA fan I would take OSU + points if it wasn't sacrilege to bet against your own team.  Keep on eye on whether Criner plays and BOL. 

 
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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 1:42 PM ET #14

Anyone know the outcome of the 2 games that end early last week?. I was told that it all 0. Some betting rule that stated they have to play 50 minutes or more before it could be counted for. Is that true?. That would make me a loser for last week.

These 2 meet for the final game of the season of last year. Doing some comparation, there is not much changes in the roster from last year.

OKST is sloppy giving up 3 INT last game, I think they will go conservative and the result could be similar to last year.

AZ could not shut down a football club at home, that made me wonder?. Well, Richmond did beat Duke.

Going with the low game right now if o/u stay at 65.

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Anyone know the outcome of the 2 games that end early last week?. I was told that it all 0. Some betting rule that stated they have to play 50 minutes or more before it could be counted for. Is that true?. That would make me a loser for last week.

These 2 meet for the final game of the season of last year. Doing some comparation, there is not much changes in the roster from last year.

OKST is sloppy giving up 3 INT last game, I think they will go conservative and the result could be similar to last year.

AZ could not shut down a football club at home, that made me wonder?. Well, Richmond did beat Duke.

Going with the low game right now if o/u stay at 65.

 
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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 2:08 PM ET #15

have to take the cowboys -13.5
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have to take the cowboys -13.5
 
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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 4:13 PM ET #16

think the safer bet is on the over. 

 If Foles is out for AZ than ill take OKST with the points too.

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think the safer bet is on the over. 

 If Foles is out for AZ than ill take OKST with the points too.

 
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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 5:07 PM ET #17

Hey nguyenhd,

Here is what the rule is with bodog.  All football games must go at 55 minutes before they goto official bet. I hope this helps you. 

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Hey nguyenhd,

Here is what the rule is with bodog.  All football games must go at 55 minutes before they goto official bet. I hope this helps you. 

 
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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 5:10 PM ET #18

Hey voldkoff,

Where did you see that Foles is out or even questionable?  Everywhere I look, I can't find anything.

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Hey voldkoff,

Where did you see that Foles is out or even questionable?  Everywhere I look, I can't find anything.

 
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Nice info, Dlaw. Here's a little more. Arizona lost all five of it's offensive line starters from last year's team....and that team lost to Okie State 36-10 in the Alamo Bowl. OSU returns 9 offensive starters from that team.OSU had five sacks vs. ULL last week - OK, everybody knows that ULL isn't a good team. Still, I like the matchup between the OSU defensive line and the AZ offensive line.

Here's another matchup I like: Gundy vs. Stoops. I'll take Gundy any day. I'm still not sure that Stoops is a very good coach. Arizona only beat three teams with a winning record last year, and one of those was a MAC team, Toledo. When it came to the top teams in the PAC 10, he lost four in a row to end the regular season.

 

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Nice info, Dlaw. Here's a little more. Arizona lost all five of it's offensive line starters from last year's team....and that team lost to Okie State 36-10 in the Alamo Bowl. OSU returns 9 offensive starters from that team.OSU had five sacks vs. ULL last week - OK, everybody knows that ULL isn't a good team. Still, I like the matchup between the OSU defensive line and the AZ offensive line.

Here's another matchup I like: Gundy vs. Stoops. I'll take Gundy any day. I'm still not sure that Stoops is a very good coach. Arizona only beat three teams with a winning record last year, and one of those was a MAC team, Toledo. When it came to the top teams in the PAC 10, he lost four in a row to end the regular season.

 

 
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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 8:36 PM ET #21

[Quote: Originally Posted by Irisheyez] This Zona team is no one to take lightly!!!  I know the Cowboys are a lot of people's little favorite this year.....but they have been like that since Dez Bryant roamed the deep posts there and never really backed it up........fact is they don't have D!!!!!!!  No D and your spotting a Stoops brother who has D and a darn solid QB himself in Foles!?!?!?  Yeah, I'll take the 14 points here. 
1st time posters.  Been following for years and have always respected Irisheyez post.  But I will have to say this one is really off base.  As previously stated the Cowboys starting D only gave up 6 pts off to field goals.  Weeden had a bad game........... with his 3 int picks.  The Cowboys bring in basically the same offense from last year when they destroyed ZONA in the Alamo Bowl.  The big difference is the returning starting line (one of the best in the nation) compared with the all new Zona line.  The pokes secondary is better and the leaders of the defense.  The Cowboys will shine on Thursday night primetime at Boone Pickens stadium.              

Final... O State 45  v  Zona 23

OSU and the over
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Irisheyez] This Zona team is no one to take lightly!!!  I know the Cowboys are a lot of people's little favorite this year.....but they have been like that since Dez Bryant roamed the deep posts there and never really backed it up........fact is they don't have D!!!!!!!  No D and your spotting a Stoops brother who has D and a darn solid QB himself in Foles!?!?!?  Yeah, I'll take the 14 points here. 
1st time posters.  Been following for years and have always respected Irisheyez post.  But I will have to say this one is really off base.  As previously stated the Cowboys starting D only gave up 6 pts off to field goals.  Weeden had a bad game........... with his 3 int picks.  The Cowboys bring in basically the same offense from last year when they destroyed ZONA in the Alamo Bowl.  The big difference is the returning starting line (one of the best in the nation) compared with the all new Zona line.  The pokes secondary is better and the leaders of the defense.  The Cowboys will shine on Thursday night primetime at Boone Pickens stadium.              

Final... O State 45  v  Zona 23

OSU and the over
 
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Oklahoma St - 42                               Arizona -22

Cowboys -13.5                              under 65

Isn't it a bit early to be playing the Sun Bowl. Don't forget, Stanford up next for the Cats. Partytime in Stillwater

Cowboys - Under

 

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Oklahoma St - 42                               Arizona -22

Cowboys -13.5                              under 65

Isn't it a bit early to be playing the Sun Bowl. Don't forget, Stanford up next for the Cats. Partytime in Stillwater

Cowboys - Under

 

 
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Two of ULL TD's last week were off of pick 6's. Weeden had a so so game last game. The D wasn't nearly as bad as people are saying. I don't know if Zona will stop the OK State offense once either. I'm liking OSU to cover 20+
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Two of ULL TD's last week were off of pick 6's. Weeden had a so so game last game. The D wasn't nearly as bad as people are saying. I don't know if Zona will stop the OK State offense once either. I'm liking OSU to cover 20+
 
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Juron Criner is out, Foles playing was never in doubt.  Zona's deepest position is WR, but losing an NFL caliber player in Criner will hurt.  Stoops plans on putting Shaq Richardson on Blackmon, and Shaq looked extremely lost against NAU last week....  I would lean towards Ok St laying the points, especially with this being a home game for them.  Zona does not play well in new environments....
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Juron Criner is out, Foles playing was never in doubt.  Zona's deepest position is WR, but losing an NFL caliber player in Criner will hurt.  Stoops plans on putting Shaq Richardson on Blackmon, and Shaq looked extremely lost against NAU last week....  I would lean towards Ok St laying the points, especially with this being a home game for them.  Zona does not play well in new environments....
 
 
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OSU on defense was basically a nightmare for Foles and company by causing about 4 turnovers 3 were int's if I'm not mistaken and sacked him about 5 times to closeout the season in the Alamo Bowl.

Can Foles forget about what just happend just under 9 months ago...If OSU remembers how they dominated Arizona then the Wildcats could be in trouble again.

Since 1993 OSU holds a record of 5-2 SU and 4-2 ats record on Thursday night games...Zona holds a 4-5 ats Thursday game record...OSU has a 4-2 SU/ATS record against Pac 10 teams and for the last 3 seasons hold a record of 14-6 ats as favorites.

Plus the great info provided above by mjames211...If I were a gambling man I would wager on....

OSU first half and final... but until I find a local (I don't do online wagering for certain reasons) I can only dream about my wager

Aloha and good luck to all

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OSU on defense was basically a nightmare for Foles and company by causing about 4 turnovers 3 were int's if I'm not mistaken and sacked him about 5 times to closeout the season in the Alamo Bowl.

Can Foles forget about what just happend just under 9 months ago...If OSU remembers how they dominated Arizona then the Wildcats could be in trouble again.

Since 1993 OSU holds a record of 5-2 SU and 4-2 ats record on Thursday night games...Zona holds a 4-5 ats Thursday game record...OSU has a 4-2 SU/ATS record against Pac 10 teams and for the last 3 seasons hold a record of 14-6 ats as favorites.

Plus the great info provided above by mjames211...If I were a gambling man I would wager on....

OSU first half and final... but until I find a local (I don't do online wagering for certain reasons) I can only dream about my wager

Aloha and good luck to all

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